Sweden wants EU to switch to emission-free cars by 2030

Sweden's environment minister urged the European Union to ban petrol and diesel-powered vehicles from 2030
Sweden's environment minister urged the European Union to ban petrol and diesel-powered vehicles from 2030

Sweden's environment minister on Saturday urged the European Union to ban petrol and diesel-powered vehicles from 2030.

Speaking to the Aftonbladet daily, Isabella Lovin of the Green Party hailed a non-binding resolution adopted by Germany's upper house of parliament to switch to emission-free cars by 2030.

"It's a really interesting proposition ... In order to achieve it, we will need to implement an EU-wide ban along the same lines," she said.

"As the environment minister, I do not see any other way than to relegate vehicles powered by to the dustbin of history."

The Swedish government aims to produce all of its power from by 2040.


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Oct 23, 2016
MMM, interesting.

I can see the possibility with cars, but what about the trucks?

Whilst there are electric trains, trucks are still required to transport goods from railway marshalling yards.

Unless there is a dramatic advance in battery capacity, large scale road haulage would be impossible with pure electric power.

The only other power source could be hydrogen fuel cells.


Oct 24, 2016
Induction or cabled chargers in truck stops, a mix of ultracapacitors and batteries, perhaps metal oxide batteries with consumable electrodes, fuel cells, (or an immense spring), could help. Or adding electric transportation, light or heavy rail for trunk lines would also be employed.

Oct 24, 2016
2030 is a little far off. We need to pick up the pace.

Oct 24, 2016
2030 is a little far off. We need to pick up the pace.

If someone just now bought a car then 13 years is a reasonable time until they need a replacement. If one were to force the timeline then that would mean mandating that people scrap their cars before end-of-life.

but what about the trucks?

There's companies that are already showing off prototypes. E.g. here:
https://www.daiml...uck.html
(though this is only useful for 'shortish' ranges of 200km...but that is enough for a healthy chunk of the trucking sector)

Oct 25, 2016

Induction or cabled chargers in truck stops, a mix of ultracapacitors and batteries, perhaps metal oxide batteries with consumable electrodes, fuel cells, (or an immense spring), could help. Or adding electric transportation, light or heavy rail for trunk lines would also be employed.
That there george kamburoff sure can drop whole bunches of terms he learned while watching the discovery channel. He's probably even a professor of popsci or something. Or stoned or something.

Oct 25, 2016
Do you have a real life?

Oct 26, 2016
Do you have a real life?
A real life full of real experiences and accomplishments, and above all an abiding respect for the truth. Things that the psychopath george kamburoff could not relate to.

Oct 26, 2016
"A real life full of real experiences and accomplishments,"
------------------------------

Prove it.

The others here say you are a porky kid and a shut-in, trying to replicate a life online, having failed in reality.

But this thread regards emission-free cars, like mine.

Got one?

Oct 26, 2016
@STOLEN VALOR LIAR-kam
... emission-free cars, like mine
and i would like to reiterate what you just posted

-Prove it-

so far, all the research has pointed to you *not* owning a car like that

.

plus, you are always making claims that are later proven to be false because you don't understand that there is an evidenciary protocol required for "proving" something (in science or elsewhere)

you know, like your STOLEN VALOR claims?

per the law, it requires annotation on the DD214 or in your 201 file as noted in the UCMJ and the USAF regulations

so if you can't prove it per the law, then it still aint proven

so if you can't provide evidence that meets the requirements per the standard or protocol, why should anyone take your word?

just like you can't provide a PE, or prove that all Gulf vets were mass murderers, or that you're a spook who heard a sub sink "live", or...

you get the picture yet?

you make claims: but you can't prove them

RULE 37

Oct 26, 2016
Your link does not work- something about "redacted" I think you got scared to show it.

All the babble of Trumpy still does not prove he served. It is just a bunch of obfuscation from one who did not serve.

He is like Trump, who accuses everybody else of having his character.

You saw my name and picture on all those military websites. Where is yours?

Oct 26, 2016
I see Trumpy took down my performance reports from the USAF he had posted, the ones which mention the "perfect airman", and the awards I got from the Air Force Flight Test Center, exactly 50 years ago this month.

But this thread regards electric vehicles. Our little e-Golf has over 11,000 miles on it so far. It replaced a car which got 20 miles/gallon. How many gallons of gasoline have we saved so far?

Oct 26, 2016
@STOLEN VALOR LIAR-kam
down my performance reports from the USAF he had posted
no, i didn't
I simply redacted your SSN that you stupidly didn't remove yourself, per your request and the legal requirements, even though you are the one that screwed that up
Your link does not work
it works for everyone else - perhaps the problem is you?
You saw my name and picture on all those military websites
STILL IRRELEVANT per the law and requirements of the US Military

again, are you illiterate, stupid or burnt?
Our little e-Golf
and again, PROVE IT
where is the evidence of your e-golf?
it doesn't exist per the research - and Ira proved that one

again, you can't differentiate between your *claims* and what constitutes evidence, be it scientific or court, even though i've shown you the requirements, you ignore it and ask that everyone simply believe what you say

that is called delusion, not evidence

reported, per your own requests

Oct 26, 2016
Why would a "perfect airman" have to leave a wartime theater of operations "in a delirium"?

And who gives a turd what you did 50 years ago? It isn't memorable to anyone but you.

Oct 26, 2016
Oh, my, trying to explain what happens in a wartime environment is too much to go into here for those with no experience.

This thread is about electric vehicles, when we can get to it. When are you going to clean up your act? Figure out how much gasoline we have saved with the EV and the solar panels?

Trumpy can see the e-Golf in satellite photos, but not google Earth yet. Try another.

The e-Golf is the little blue one in the driveway. The solar panels are on the roof of the house.

Oct 26, 2016
@STOLEN VALOR LIAR-kam
trying to explain what happens in a wartime environment is too much to go into here for those with no experience
1- being in theater doesn't mean you've experience wartime

2- this is the reason i never talk to you about it - you have zero experience (this is also why you call all Gulf vets mass murderers, b/c you're an inexperienced idiot)
Figure out how much gasoline we have saved with the EV and the solar panels?
easily done
ZERO

you can't prove either exist, therefore you can't claim any savings

0+0=0
basic math

- read this(again)
https://www.law.c...ules/fre

https://en.wikipe...evidence

see the e-Golf in satellite photos
no, i can't
still no evidence

so... per your own requests and advice: reported

Oct 26, 2016
Prove it
I dont HAVE to george. All I have to do is post facts and people come to learn what and who I am. Its like when you spend all your time making up facts and lying about your past, and people come to learn what and who the real george kamburoff is. Specifically a lying cheating psychopath.

Note how you turned the thread into another george kamburoff show. You also need attention like an addict needs drugs.

Stoned yet?

Oct 26, 2016
Over 550 gallons of gas has been saved so far with our little e-Golf. Wait until you catch up to the 21st Century, "otto" . . it is right outside your little window.

Oct 28, 2016
the ones which mention the "perfect airman", and the awards I got from the Air Force Flight Test Center, exactly 50 years ago this month.


https://www.youtu...zLUvuLLU

Oct 28, 2016
Ira who works on a super-polluting boat with a 9,000 hp Diesel smokebelcher thinks he is an environmentalist.

You have no credibility on this thread.

Oct 30, 2016
Not that I'm against electric vehicles, but did Lovin provide any proposals for 1) infrastructural overhaul to support such a massive transition in only 13 years, 2) subsidies for the lowest income people who may not be able to purchase a new EV in 13 years, or who may not be able to afford maintenance of a used EV with a depleted battery, 3) an environmentally friendly and practical method of disposal of the innumerable vehicles, components, adhesives, etc. that will be scrapped?

Oct 31, 2016
Hey there little monkey
Over 550 gallons of gas has been saved so far with our little e-Golf. Wait until you catch up to the 21st Century, "otto" . . it is right outside your little window
-But how is this possible? You dont own an EV. Or PV or an undergrad degree or an MS in anything worthwhile or a conscience or a way to quit getting stoned every day and then coming here and lying through your teeth and lying to yourself that you are actually getting away with it-

Hey little monkey hows that lawsuit coming along? You know the one that that big deal euro group was making their top priority? (Until they actually read your shit here and realized you were a lying cheating psychopath that is)

Oct 31, 2016
You have no credibility on this thread.


So what? Have I ever give the hint that I wanted any? Either what I say has merit or it does not have merit. Everybody gets to decide that for them selfs, so far it's looking like your opinion is not a particularly compelling one, eh Cher?

Your credibility is going for about 1.7 on the retail karma market, Cher that puts you in the same group as Really-Skippy, Reg-Skippy, Zephir-Skippy, anti-galor-Skippy, willie-Skippy, Bart-Skippy and some others who have credibility that goes for about 1.7 or 1.5 per comment.

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