How energy is hidden in colours—can we use it to power a renewable future?

How energy is hidden in colours—can we use it to power a renewable future?
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'Roses are red and violets are blue' – so says the old poem.

But why are roses red? And why are violets blue? What is it that gives something its colour?

And how could playing with colour give us wearable ? This last question is at the core of research being undertaken by Dr Wallace Wong, of the University of Melbourne's Bio21 Institute and School of Chemistry.

As well as working on fascinating science that combines chemistry, physics, engineering and even some agriculture, the carbon-solar researchers of Dr Wong's lab are inspired by a renewable energy future.

But first, to grasp where they are going, you must understand a little more about the science of colour.

You could think of an object's colour as the it rejects. When objects appear to have a particular colour it's because they are absorbing all the other colours of the visible spectrum, while one colour is being reflected.

For example, the petals of a rose appear red because they absorb most of the blue light of the visible spectrum, and much of the green and yellow too. What's left to reflect back at us is dominated by the remaining reddish part of the spectrum.

How energy is hidden in colours—can we use it to power a renewable future?
It’s the light that is absorbed, or reflected, that makes roses so red. Credit: Pixabay

Our perception of colour is, then, the rather clever result of our eyes and brains interpreting various combinations of those reflected colours.

Exactly which colours an object absorbs depends on all the complex molecules that make up its surface – in particular on the electrons and atomic bonds within those molecules.

To understand that, you need to know what colour really is. Light is a wave and 'colour' is merely the frequency of that wave.

Each light frequency (that is, each colour) carries a particular energy, and if that energy is precisely the right amount to knock an electron from one state to another within a molecule, that frequency will be absorbed.

The 'natural frequencies' of the myriad organic molecules that make up a rose petal correspond with frequencies of light that are – mostly – blue through yellow.

Thus, roses are red.

The Sun emits light of every possible frequency at once, including at frequencies too high or too low for us to see. But the Sun's highest intensity radiation aligns approximately with our visible range – red through blue. That's no coincidence – like all animals on Earth, we have evolved to make best use of the light available.

These days, we can also design materials to 'target' particular frequencies of light. For example, the silicon-based materials of a are tweaked to absorb the most intense frequencies in sunlight. The electrons knocked loose by that light are harvested as an electric current.

While silicon-based materials have dominated solar-cell technology since the 1970s, Dr Wong is working on alternative carbon-based materials that have the potential to allow cheaper, flexible, robust, printable solar panels.

The biggest challenge, Dr Wong explains, is efficiency. Currently, carbon-based solar cells struggle to exceed 12 per cent efficiency, significantly lagging behind the 17 per cent of commercially available silicon cells.

.One technique his laboratory is using to increase efficiency is to harvest power from a wider range of frequencies.

How energy is hidden in colours—can we use it to power a renewable future?
Dr Wallace Wong is working towards cheaper and more robust printable solar cells. Credit: University of Melbourne

By adjusting the chemical properties of the light-absorbing material, the researchers can adjust the amount of energy required to boost electrons from one state to another. When they do that, they force the material to absorb another frequency of light, ie another .

"The more frequencies these materials absorb, the more electricity they can produce," explains Dr Wong.

The ultimate aim is to absorb colours right across the high-intensity, visible part of sunlight's spectrum and a little way beyond, into ultraviolet.

So why bother? What are the advantages of carbon-based solar cells over silicon?

"One of the reasons is cost," says Dr Wong. "Because carbon-based solar cells use only microscopically-thin layers of light-absorbing materials, they should be much cheaper to produce than silicon-based cells."

One advantages of rooftop solar is decentralisation of electricity generation. Transmission infrastructure – mostly poles and wires – must be built to manage peaks, and transmitting electricity is costly.

How energy is hidden in colours—can we use it to power a renewable future?
Rooftop solar panels could be transformed by new technology. Credit: Pixabay

And it's wasteful too – about 10 per cent of Australia's electricity is lost in transmission. The more power that can be generated close to where it's used, the more those costs can be reduced.

Dr Wong says the carbon-based technology promises vastly more options for decentralised solar power generation.

"Because the carbon-based materials can be dissolved in a solvent, they can then be printed onto almost any material of any shape – using even the simplest inkjet printer. The panels are even flexible enough to be printed onto clothing – in the future we could be walking around wearing solar panels printed on our hats, coats and backpacks."

Carbon-based could also be built into or painted onto structures, so that our buildings could incorporate structures that generate power, supplementing or replacing the heavy, rigid, silicon-based solar panels on the roof.


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Jul 05, 2016
Wow, a lot better than the Home Nuclear Plant many favor.

The quality of PV cells is increasing so fast, we held off for a few years, but finally put them up to save money for the next retrofit. When folk start buying EVs, the sale of home PV systems will increase, since they are natural for integration.

Jul 05, 2016
"carbon-based technology promises vastly more options for decentralised solar power generation."
The quality of PV cells is increasing so fast...
Solar PV is becoming ever less carbon-free. LOL

Jul 05, 2016
"carbon-based technology promises vastly more options for decentralised solar power generation."
The quality of PV cells is increasing so fast...
Solar PV is becoming ever less carbon-free. LOL


That's pretty funny, WW. (I'm assuming that you do know the difference between carbon in a product and carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, and weren't actually serious...).

Jul 06, 2016
Solar PV is becoming ever less carbon-free. LOL


Solar PV is becoming more efficient and less expensive. I probably won't buy any in my lifetime, but it'll still progress.

Jul 06, 2016
I think you will buy it. Unless you live in an apartment or condo or something. Plus, the PV covering our top roof has reduced the heat load there, making it more comfortable. We use no A/C.

Jul 06, 2016
Plus, the PV covering our top roof has reduced the heat load there, making it more comfortable.


And just think of how much better they would work if you had not put them on your neighbor's roof.

Jul 06, 2016
Goodie ira. I can't uprated on this S6, only on my computer.

Jul 06, 2016
And where are your panels and EVs, "ira"? I need not show you any more of mine, since you do not have the character to admit error.

It was the same with all of it, the military sites, the base newspaper of the Air Force Flight Test Center, the records of my performance, the NASA catalog of studies and reports, the reviews of my lectures and seminars, all of which you tried to disparage.

You and your worse half otto screamed nasty stuff at me, once I proved you were wrong and upset your little game here. Then, Grumpy piled on and Estevan, too, all of whom are HIDING behind phony names, not having the character to take responsibility for their and your own words.

Why are you scared of being found out?

Jul 06, 2016
And where are your panels and EVs, "ira"? I need not show you any more of mine, since you do not have the character to admit error.
Cher, the picture you send to me is your neighbor's roof. You should admit your stupidity and quit trying to fool your self. Everybody here knows you are "experienced" in telling really lame lies. You thought that picture would work to "prove" your lie. It did work too, I admit, I believed you. Until Captain-Skippy brought up the Google map thing. I looked at him, looked again at the picture you send to me. The picture you send is your neighbor's roof.

Why are you scared of being found out?
Scared of found out what? I never send to you a picture of my neighbor's roof saying he was mine. I never claimed to have the electric car that the DMV don't have the record of.

Jul 06, 2016
Now I know why they put you on a boat. You have trouble figuring things out. That pic came from the installers. At 72, I don't spend much time on the roof any more. It is my roof, whether you can figure it out or not.

You really, REALLY want to believe what you post, but know what you did to my proof before, . . the mischaracterizations, the lies, the disparagement of what you could not achieve.

I do not know why you could not find our EV, but suspect incompetence and/or mendacity.

Jul 06, 2016
@STOLEN VALOR liar-kam
I do not know why you could not find our EV, but suspect incompetence and/or mendacity
it's not mendacity as it's not listed in public records, as noted by Ira and FOI searches

so the incompetence can be on your part by:
hiding assets, fraud, registering it under other names or aliases (Joanna), listing it as stolen, or various other means, including, but not limited to felonious methods

Considering your history, it can be any or all of those mentioned

I would trust Ira long, long before i would trust anything you said, considering your history here on PO alone

Ira's never lied - but you have: repeatedly

plus, there is the STOLEN VALOR issue, which i will definitely be checking into

because that is not one of the lesser misdemeanor crimes considering the "combat V" implications; especially if it's ever been used to guarantee you a job, $$ or preferential treatment

that would be felony fraud

just sayin'

Jul 06, 2016
You and your worse half otto screamed nasty stuff at me, once I proved you were wrong and upset your little game here. Then, Grumpy piled on and Estevan, too, all of whom are HIDING behind phony names, not having the character to take responsibility for their and your own words
And don't forget a_P and eikka and Willie and even your buddies maggnus and thermodynamics who concluded you were a fraud.

Truth is everybody who interacts with you sooner or later comes to realize how full of shit you are.

You can't scare a psychopath because they have no feelings. And you will never get them to admit they lied unless it improves their position to do so.

You can only fire them, kick them out, throw them in jail, or similarly sanction them and restrict their ability to conduct their business.

And you can continue to expose them and warn the community that there is a serial predator within their midst who will enjoy making them suffer if he gets the chance.

Jul 06, 2016
"... what does the psychopath REALLY get from their victims? It's easy to see what they are after when they lie and manipulate for money or material goods or power. But in many instances, such as love relationships or faked friendships, it is not so easy to see what the psychopath is after. Without wandering too far afield into spiritual speculations - a problem Cleckley also faced - we can only say that it seems to be that the psychopath ENJOYS making others suffer. Just as normal humans enjoy seeing other people happy, or doing things that make other people smile, the psychopath enjoys the exact opposite..."

-which is why george kamburoff comes here and posts lies and wastes people's time exposing them and commandeers threads and etcetc

"They perceive themselves as superior beings in a hostile world in which others are competitors for power and resources. They feel it is the optimum thing to do to manipulate and deceive others in order to obtain what they want."

Jul 06, 2016
Come on, Frumpy, you have been promising me you were charging me with Stolen Valor officially. If you do not do it, stop blabbering about it. You now fear doing so, since it lets me face my accusers. And you are too SCARED to do that.

SCARED.

Jul 06, 2016
@STOLEN VALOR liar-kam
charging me
you do know that "charges" have to be preferred by the state, gov't or other law enforcement agencies, right?
If you do not do it, stop blabbering about it
i can only report it

it aint "false" if you made the claim, and i can prove you did
there is no evidence you are allowed/able to claim said award

why are you suddenly so fearful?

again:
according to the UCMJ (UCMJ, 64 Stat. 109, 10 U.S.C. §§ 801–946) and USAF Regs/AFI's, any and all medals, awards, citations, training, education or specialty badges must be annotated in the personnel records (including the final DD214) in order to be worn or claimed

false claims are punishable under the UCMJ and FED Law by up to max $10,000 and 10 years in prison for each offense, depending

receiving preferential treatment, financial gain or other utilising false claims is called fraud and can also be punished as misdemeanor or felony, depending

LOL

Jul 07, 2016
You now fear doing so, since it lets me face my accusers. And you are too SCARED to do that
Face your accusers? You come here and face your accusers every day. You tell lie after lie and they rightly accuse you of being a liar.

Do you really think your lies would become true just because you knew the names of your accusers?

George kamburoffs interior architecture
https://youtu.be/a1emRrPPK6U

Jul 07, 2016
Come on, Stumpy, you have been running your Big Mouth accusing me of terrible moral crimes. Now, you must prove it.

Prove it, Big Mouth, or shut up.

I proved who I am, and it drove you nuts. It was a short trip. Why don't you post here the comments from my military performance reports? You will not because they make YOU to be the liar. The same with the NASA catalog, the same with my MS degree, the same with my Power Quality work, the same with being a Senior Engineer for PG&E.

And what have YOU done? Sniped? Hid? Cowered?

Face it, you and "Ira", and "otto" thought you ran this forum, with your nasty comments. When you found someone who was real and could prove it, it ruined your little game. And that someone stood up to you and the other snipers hiding behind phony names. You are all too SCARED to reveal yourselves now, after revealing your character to us.

Jul 07, 2016
You are all too SCARED to reveal yourselves now, after revealing your character to us.


Are you too SCARED to send me a picture of your own roof? Hiding behind a picture of your neighbor's roof?

Maybe somebody down the block has the electric car you can take a picture of (to make up for the one DMV says you don't own.)

Jul 07, 2016
Who are you,"Ira",and why do you HIDE from the Decent Folk?

SCARED? I don't blame you. If your boss caught you diddling on the internet instead of watching those ropes, you will be gone, . .back on the mud.

I promise to not come after you like I am with otto, but will only let your family and bosses who you really are, so they can keep an eye or two on you.

Jul 07, 2016
Who are you,"Ira",and why do you HIDE from the Decent Folk?
Cher, you got the terrible memory even for the elderly pothead. I am Ira-Skippy from Port Fourchon in Lafourche Parish in Louisiana.

SCARED?
Of an elderly pothead who sends out pictures of his neighbor's roof to show off his solar panes (completely unasked for by the way)? Non, not really.

I promise to not come after you like I am with otto,
It would probably be more fun for me if you would.

but will only let your family and bosses who you really are, so they can keep an eye or two on you.
So you see me a few postums a day for less than two years, but think you know more about me than Mrs-Ira-Skippette (who has lived with me day and night for 16 years does know about me? Or my boss who I have worked for the same one for 14 years, you know me better than him? You know how silly that sounds?

Jul 07, 2016
You are STILL hiding, "Ira". Why?

Are you too SCARED to expose yourself to the consequences of your own words?

Come on, "Ira", all the Decent Folk do it.

Jul 07, 2016
Tell us who you are, "Ira", so we can have it out, in front of our families. I want that.

I want yours to see your real character.

Jul 07, 2016
You are STILL hiding,
How you thing I am hiding Cher? I'm right here and have told you all you need to know to find me.

Are you too SCARED to expose yourself to the consequences of your own words?
What consequences? Maybe you got some kind idea fantasy about tracking me down. But if you was going to do that you would already have been here because Ira-Skippy from Port Fourchon in Lafourche Parish in Louisiana is really easy to find.

all the Decent Folk do it.
Well why you don't just bring your "Decent" self on down here Cher and give me some of those consequences? I'll cut you if you stand still and choot you if run.

The high Sheriff know me real good him, so maybe you can ask him to bring me some of those consequences. He likes a good joke too. Matter of fact, if I go into town in the next few days I will drop in and tell him that if some couyon calls asking about Ira-Skippy tell him the directions out to my house so he can give me my consequences.

Jul 07, 2016
Still cowering? I am not coming after you Ira, I have an allergy to cockroaches and your area is full of them. The ground moves at night there. No, I am not calling you one, I am referring to the real ones, the State Symbol.

"I'll cut you if you stand still and choot you if run."

Oh, my, . . Cajun threats. Are you ready to do that? Are you ready to kill because you are scared of being found out?

Now, just tell us your full name, so we can settle this like grownups.

No more hiding, "Ira".

Jul 07, 2016
Now, just tell us your full name, so we can settle this like grownups.


Cher, if you can come up with one good explanation of why my full name matters. What you are going to do with it. Or how it will change one single thing I have ever write about you. Then I would give serious thought to giving my full name to you. Deal? What good for you or anybody else would my full name be?

All having it would mean, is Ira-Skippy with the last name would still be calling you a couyon. Lying couyon who send me a picture of his neighbor's roof at that. My last name don't have nothing to do with you being really stupid, and it sure don't have anything do with me knowing you are a moron. YOUR last name is the proof of that.

Jul 07, 2016
Come on, Ira, we just want your neighbors and "friends" to understand the depth of your character. I just want to send them my stuff and your characterization of it and your hateful verbiage. They will be SO proud of you and how you play those silly games with your phony affectation of Cajun-speak. We saw how fast it falls away when you forget to play the part, too angry to stay in the silly role.

Your "Uncle Ira Show" is over, Toots. You are outed as just another internet sniper, too scared to take responsibility for his words.

Jul 07, 2016
Come on, Ira, we just want your neighbors and "friends" to understand the depth of your character. I just want to send them my stuff and your characterization of it and your hateful verbiage.
I thought that would be your answer.

Have I send to your family anything silly you say here? Have I send your neighbor the pictures of his roof you send out claiming it was your roof? Have I send to anybody anything? Non. I have not.

So what your are saying is you would like to do what I have not done, harass my family and neighbors. That is the only reason you keep begging for information, nobody has done it to you, but you still think it would alright for you to do it them.

Jul 07, 2016
Ira, you keep on attacking me because I proved I am real. For over a year, you followed me around taking pot shots out of spite. You mischaracterize my proof I sent you, unable to admit it proves you wrong.

You allege my genuine and hard-earned Master of Science is phony because you do not have one.

You disparage my service at the Air force Flight Test Center and the war, but you never served.

You try to discredit the NASA studies and reports. You even challenge my ownership of an EV and solar panels to power it.

It would be good for your family and friends to see how you really act when they are not looking. It is for the good of the family.

Jul 07, 2016
Ira, you keep on attacking me because I proved I am real.
Non, because that is the game you brought with you when you showed up.

You allege my genuine and hard-earned Master of Science is phony because you do not have one.
Non, because it does not have the field of study on him, or the school department that issue him.

You disparage my service at the Air force Flight Test Center and the war, but you never served.
Because you present it to show you are some kind of expert when you are really pretty unknowledgable in the fields you claim "experience".

You try to discredit the NASA studies and reports.
Never saw a study or report either. Just a piece of paper with you name on but don't say what you did or your job.

You even challenge my ownership of an EV and solar panels to power it.
DMV don't have record of you owning the e-Golf. The picture you send to me (unasked) was your neighbor's roof.

P.S. for the main part.


Jul 07, 2016
It would be good for your family and friends to see how you really act when they are not looking.
But they do see Cher. We have a good time having fun and ridiculing you.

It is for the good of the family.
How about I I give you the chance to really whine and howl? Can I have permission to share all your foolishment with YOUR family and neighbors? It might be good for your family too, eh? Why you want to do what nobody has done to you? Yet.

Careful what you beg for Cher, you know you are prone to saying some really foolish stuffs. (Telling the Captain-Skippy it was okay to publish the information you send him comes to mind.) Be really careful how answer, because YOUR family (and neighbors whose roof you send out pictures of) might be really upset about how loose and free you are while you are being "REAL".

Instead of the stupid begging for information, you should be thankful nobody has taken advantage of how stupid you are with information you give free.

Jul 07, 2016
We have to get rid of internet trolls, like you "Ira", those of you who come here to play what otto called "games".

When a real person comes here, you attack, and if he proves his points, you shed any pretense of character and resort to mischaracterizations, lies and personal attacks. I identified myself because I am not playing "games", I am a real person here to discuss and debate points of science. I have real experience in many of these f8ields and you reset it. Tough.

Outgrow these silly adolescent games and your emotional need to get even with someone who bested you in public.

Jul 07, 2016
rid of internet trolls, like you "Ira"
I just checked and what I suspected is true. More threats, whines, references about being real. How much good they done you before? Cher, someone with as much as "experience" as you should learn quicker. I hope you realize (you been told plenty of times) all they do is provide the office staffs something to laugh about. THAT is what you are "experiencing" and you are not learning from the experience.

I identified myself because I am not playing "games"
You identified your self because you are stupid.

I am a real person here to discuss and debate points of science.
Well I wish you hurry up and get around to it. So far debating for you seems to be appealing to authority and calling peoples goober.

I have real experience in many of these f8ields
Maybe you do and maybe you don't. But it is beyond question you don't have the depth of experience you claim. Appealing to authority is a morons way of debating.

Jul 07, 2016
@STOLEN VALOR liar-kam
accusing me ...prove it
1- not accusing - factual

i pointed out that you were making blatantly false claims per the regulations and UCMJ because, unlike you, i actually know WTF i am talking about (which is why i listed references to demonstrate your blatantly false claim)

2- you proved it already - if you were literate or able enough to read, you would see that

so since you proved it, will you shut the f*ck up now?
LOL

you need to Outgrow these silly adolescent games and your emotional need to get even with someone who bested you in public

.

.

PS- if it were "mischaracterization" or "lies" you could present a case to litigate
given that you cannot, and there is nothing posted that isn't also validated by evidence, most of which you yourself provided, then you can't call it anything other than factual

you promised to sue me
i sent you my address

WHERE IS MY SUMMONS??

or was it just your attempt at bullying?

Jul 07, 2016
@ Captain-Skippy. How you are Cher? I am good. Podna, got a favor to ask if you don't mind. You know those two pictures I send to you? The A and B ones with the lines and circles on them? Is there anybody you could pass them along to that is pretty sharp with that stuffs that can give me or you an opinion on them? I have taken great pains to not get email friendly (maybe I should say "hide" because I am "SCARED"with peoples on the interweb. But would really like a 2nd, or 3rd, or 4th or the more the merriest opinions of it.

Edit P.S. to add this. Also the email where I list what the color codes I use are.

Jul 07, 2016
Is there anybody you could pass them along to that is pretty sharp with that stuffs that can give me or you an opinion on them?
@Ira
my best friend is a Shoop expert, maybe he can give me some feedback on this one

... let me see if i can dig up a few friends from my past to help too, eh?
there are some other venue's that i can also hit up, like the experts in this (like some /b/ro's - ROTFLMFAO)
I have taken great pains to not get email friendly (maybe I should say "hide" because I am "SCARED"with peoples on the interweb
ROTFLMFAO

Jul 07, 2016
Is there anybody you could pass them along to that is pretty sharp with that stuffs that can give me or you an opinion on them?
@Ira
my best friend is a Shoop expert, maybe he can give me some feedback on this one

... let me see if i can dig up a few friends from my past to help too, eh?
there are some other venue's that i can also hit up, like the experts in this (like some /b/ro's - ROTFLMFAO)
I have taken great pains to not get email friendly (maybe I should say "hide" because I am "SCARED"with peoples on the interweb
ROTFLMFAO


Thanks. But do not go to any big troubles with it. It really is not that important. I feel pretty confident (actually more than "pretty", about 99%) that I am seeing the thing as it really is. After a day to think it over, do you think I am seeing it correct?

Jul 07, 2016
After a day to think it over, do you think I am seeing it correct?
@Ira
1- still reviewing the pics... like i said (elsewhere), i noticed inconsistencies in the maps

2- i can now see the point you raised (elsewhere)

just give me more time, and i will get you the info back
THANKS
But do not go to any big troubles with it. It really is not that important.
i got time

and it aint a problem to me

you know STOLEN VALOR liar-kam says all us mountain folk have nothin but used appliances in our yards and we is all lazy and stupid, so it's far better than counting fridges and swattin' skeeters while droolin over his fake MS, eh?

ROTFLMFAO

Jul 07, 2016
P.S. to you Captain-Skippy. glam-Skippy going to pay me a visit so he can tell all my neighbors about the Ira-Skippy stuffs they been missing. As if anybody could miss a couyon like me, eh? I am sure he will tell them that everything they get to know about me in my whole here is goober stuffs because he has "experience" with me and they are coonass goobers who don't know me.

I am really hoping he will stop in Thibodaux to tell the high Sheriff all about the Ira-Skippy and to ask directions to my house. Hooyeei, I would love to be a fly on Webre-Skippy's wall when glam-Skippy walks in to ask about me. You think he is funny on here, I could just see it now.

But I would feel bad if he tries to tell my family stuffs like he wants to do. They are not nice like me and I would hate for something bad to happen to him.

Jul 07, 2016
glam-Skippy going to pay me a visit so he can tell all my neighbors about the Ira-Skippy stuffs they been missing
@Ira
don't believe it... he threatened to do the same to me. that is why i gave him a freakin' map to my house

he sure as h*ll aint gonna show up here or there - he's far too scared to do that

heck, he won't even send me the summons for the litigation he promised!
and that is backed by protection & courts & lawyers & stuff!
They are not nice like me and I would hate for something bad to happen to him
i know what you mean

LOL

tell him that i got nothin' but time ... just take the rusted Whirlpool to the left, split off at the broken rocking chair on the Ranger boat and look for the 2 Toilet bowl filled with petunia's... that's my address!

the local Constable lives next door just past the chevy and the porta-john (the blue one, not the tan one), so he can stop in there while he is at it!
LMFAO

Jul 07, 2016
Once outed, the snipers gather like flies. You are not the cops on the beat here, you are hateful anonymous cowards hiding behind phony names on the internet, too SCARED to take responsibility for your own words.

Who are you? Why are you hiding? Do you assume we are all as hateful and cowardly as you?

Grow up and take responsibility for what you say.

You can do it, but it takes character.

Fake it.

Jul 07, 2016
Go back and read your posts. Do you see what you have done to a science site just out of some ridiculous need to get even with me for making you mad? What character!

Your hate results in page after page of hateful attacks.

Do you not understand that others who are not as furious or out-of-control as you will find your reactions ridiculous?

Your posts last forever, and sometime soon you will be unmasked. Just in time for your kids to find out the real character of their daddies. Daddies who act like spoiled kids who hurt themselves and scream at others.

Jul 07, 2016
@ glam-Skippy. Cher, your "moral high ground" and "victim" act are about as convincing as your "senior engineer of (place whatever the article is about here)" act. You are really bad at it Skippy. You might have all kinds of "experiences", but your conduct here shows you never learn anything from them.

Jul 07, 2016
Grow up and take responsibility for what you say.
If you really want me to do that I will.

Ira-Skippy thinks you are a lying posing posturing really stupid individual. I said that and I am taking responsibility for it.

Ira-Skippy from Port Fourchon in Lafourche Parish in Louisiana. Ask anybody there and they can tell you all you want to know about me. Probably a lot more than you want to know.

You can do it, but it takes character.
I just did it, so? What now?

Fake it.
Why I got to do that? I tell you what I really think, I do not need to fake it.

Jul 07, 2016
I proved who I am, and it drove you nuts
.......if you really want to drive him nuts, ask him if he's ever seen a Differential Equation he could solve.......or ask that of any of most of the rest of the above, you know, the usual suspects.

Oh, by the way geek, can you solve Differential Equations?


Jul 07, 2016
Probably not. If I ever need it, I rent that expertise, like we do the lawn guy.

What have you done with it?

Jul 07, 2016
.......if you really want to drive him nuts, ask him if he's ever seen a Differential Equation he could solve.......
Oh Bennie-Skippy, Cher. But you don't need to ask me right? I have done one for you and you did not even know what I was doing. But to answer YOUR question, yeah I can do them and unlike you, I have done them for some peoples here on the physorg. Hooyeei, you sure step in that one Cher.

Probably not.
Thanks for finally admitting you are not a "REAL" engineer. Only a "NOT REAL" engineer would give that answer. Choot, you did not even know what Fourier Transforms and Series was. But that is okayeei, Cher, because you doubled down with,,,,

If I ever need it, I rent that expertise, like we do the lawn guy.
What? You "rent" a real engineer? Like a lawn guy? Cher, if you can't do the DE's, you can not even frame the question properly so you can "rent" somebody to do them for you.


Jul 07, 2016
Give it up, "Ira". Your need to get even with me is old adolescent stuff.

Jul 07, 2016
Give it up, "Ira". Your need to get even with me is old adolescent stuff.


What, you mean like "renting" engineers to do your cyphering for you so you can concentrate on the "REAL" engineer stuffs? Your lawn guy knows more engineering than you do. Choot, you can not even bandy about the jargon with falling flat on your face.

Why you only want to talk about how mean I am and not the foolishment of yours that I am mean about? If you didn't say really stupid stuffs, then I would not have any stuffs to be mean with. See if your "experience" can give any clues about how that works.

Choot, I would think that somebody who was seven different kinds of engineer with the Master of Science degree would at least not have to "rent" a cyphering guy or ask his "lawn guy" to do his cyphering for him, eh?

Jul 07, 2016
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Jul 07, 2016
@Ira Not to tell you what to do with your business, but have you considered an email to Phys.org about the frequency of someone asking for your personal information?

Repeatedly asking and daring for someones' actual personal information on a comments section is a prime example of trolling, and as such is a very immoral act in this day and age.

I have mine written and ready to go. One more "are you scared?" and its off. Perhaps we can synchronize. Just a thought.
Have a good day.

Jul 07, 2016
How can you possibly think gkam's mental illness is anything like this guy? http://phys.org/n...due.html

You blanket rate George because of your tiff. You content rate anti.
I content glam-Skippy because he is really stupid and thinks everyone else is more stupid than he is. I do not content anti-galore-Skippy. I do not rate him at all because he is on ignore and I never see his stuffs.

Just how many mental cases are on this thread? You're as obsessed as fucking gang bangers.
It may look that way to you, but this is what it is. In the beginning I asked glam-Skippy to leave off with goober insults to me, others told what to expect too. Asked several times but since I am a goober and he is, well he is everything that shows up in any article he posts on.

I stop but he pokes and begs until I come back.He just can stand being left alone. He is not a victim, he is a victimizer who whines because he is not very good at it.

Jul 07, 2016
@ Estevan-Skippy. Trust me Cher. They know all about glam-Skippy. How they could not? He writes the office peoples almost as many whines,, boasts,, threats,, begs,, more whines,, more boasts,, more threats,, more begs,,, as he does slogan postums on the articles. He is a great source of entertainments to them.

Choot, I am not at liberty to share the exact words of his, uh, well letters to the management, but believe me, they are hilarious. You know what is really funny? Between all the threats, whines and boasts about being real, he even works up the nerve to "offer his services and knowledge to help clean the place up". No kidding, what you think about that? The ONLY reason he is not banned is because he is so hilarious while he being "real".The ONLY reason, and why I advise all the time to be more careful what he is wishing for. Because when he quits being so hilarious, he'll probably get his wish about cleaning out the trolls. He is the top of the "Official Troll List".

Jul 07, 2016
P.S. for you Estevan-Skippy. I get fan mails from all kinds of VIP's (That's coonass for dignitaries) and even some NIP's.(that's coonass for Not Important Peoples)

Jul 07, 2016
Good to hear, Ira. Maybe he's just got the cabris. (My Wife is from Mandeville) I don't need much translation from coonass. Have a good day.

Jul 07, 2016
Ira, I swear if I get down that way again I'll look you up and we'll go to Chris Moran's Marina on me. Unless you know a better place, which wouldn't surprise me at all!

Jul 08, 2016
I guess this forum has descended into an adolescent morass of popularity and bad manners.

I am going to try to save it.


Jul 08, 2016
The ultimate aim is to absorb colours right across the high-intensity, visible part of sunlight's spectrum and a little way beyond, into ultraviolet.
It's quite easy to absorb 99.965% of the radiation in the visible spectrum (and also some infrared) with a single element: carbon, when it's in the form of molecular nanotubes – Vantablack

I guess this forum has descended into an adolescent morass of popularity and bad manners.

I am going to try to save it.
That's the spirit. Seeing as you have no control over what others say, we'll all be watching for you to mind your tongue and post sensibly about the science in a way that doesn't draw the ire of anyone. Think you can do that?

Jul 08, 2016
Keep watching. It is not your call.

Jul 08, 2016
Keep watching. It is not your call.
The "terms of service, the science, and human nature" is anyone's call. You're not off to a great start but it's not too late for you to learn something.

Jul 08, 2016
I guess this forum has descended into an adolescent morass of popularity and bad manners.

I am going to try to save it
I guess this is related to the way you saved california by buying an EV and putting PV on your roof.

But those were both lies werent they?
https://youtu.be/rsPa8QgGGkc

George kamburoff isnt even a cartoon. Hes a charicature of a cartoon.

Jul 08, 2016
That's the spirit. Seeing as you have no control over what others say, we'll all be watching for you to mind your tongue and post sensibly about the science in a way that doesn't draw the ire of anyone. Think you can do that?
George kamburoff doesnt realize that posting here is not a right, its a privilege.

I think that george posts incendiary lies under his real name because in his sick mind he has been trying to initiate a legal situation all along.

He cant sue all those supervisors who fired him. He cant sue all the people in the world who have laughed at him over the years.

But he thinks that he can entrap people on an anonymous forum by deliberately inciting derision while opting to disclose sensitive personal info, which after all no one is required to do.

This alone should have gotten him banned long ago, but I assume the mods here are also having a jolly good time reading his crap while counting the increased traffic.

Jul 08, 2016
The "terms of service, the science, and human nature" is anyone's call. You're not off to a great start but it's not too late for you to learn something
"The psychopath recognizes no flaw in his psyche, no need for change.

"Most therapy programs only provide them with new excuses for their behavior as well as new insights into the vulnerabilities of others. Through psychotherapy, they learn new and better ways of manipulating. What they do NOT do is make any effort to change their own views and attitudes."

Jul 08, 2016
"The point is, social factors and parenting practices only shape the expression of the disorder, but have no effect on the individual's inability to feel empathy or to develop a conscience.

"Robert Hare once submitted a paper to a scientific journal. The paper included EEGs of several groups of adult men performing a language task. The editor of the journal returned the paper saying "Those EEG's couldn't have come from real people."

"But they did. They were the EEG's of psychopaths."

-George is broke and there is no fixing him.

Jul 08, 2016
They were the EEG's of psychopaths."

-George is broke and there is no fixing him.
He sent EEGs with his DD214?

There's serious work underway to fix dotage.

And who won't benefit from the brain implant?

And your present-day psychiatric manual actually "may becoming more archaic".

Jul 09, 2016
This kind of commentary is just as useless as the anti science delusional crap that usually fills this space. I know I have my character flaws, we all do - but I don't understand why some feel the need to showcase theirs.

Jul 09, 2016
. . . or make personal attacks against others.

JRi
Jul 09, 2016
"The biggest challenge, Dr Wong explains, is efficiency"

I think the biggest challenge is durability. Installation cost is significant, and if you need to do it every year, the solar energy wont be cheap. Silicon panels are much more durable at the moment.

Jul 10, 2016
He sent EEGs with his DD214?
Yeah but he drew them all himself.

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