UK approves 'world's biggest offshore wind farm' project

The Hornsea Project Two will be an extension of the 1.2GW Hornsea Project One which was in itself being trumpeted as the world's
The Hornsea Project Two will be an extension of the 1.2GW Hornsea Project One which was in itself being trumpeted as the world's biggest offshore wind farm

The British government gave the green light Tuesday for what it called the world's biggest offshore wind farm to be built off the English coast.

The Hornsea Project Two farm should have up to 300 turbines and a capacity of up to 1.8 gigawatts. It could produce enough energy to power 1.6 million homes.

It is an extension of the 1.2GW Hornsea Project One which was in itself being trumpeted as the world's biggest offshore wind farm.

Both projects are being developed by Danish group DONG Energy, the world's largest operator of .

London decided Tuesday to grant development consent for Hornsea Project Two, located around 55 miles (90 kilometres) east of the English coast.

DONG Energy made the final investment decision earlier this year on Hornsea Project One, but is yet to commit formally to funding the second wave.

British business minister Greg Clark said: "Britain is a global leader in offshore wind, and we're determined to be one of the leading destinations for investment in renewable energy.

"The UK's offshore has grown at an extraordinary rate over the last few years, and is a fundamental part of our plans to build a clean, affordable, secure energy system."

If built to full capacity, the Hornsea Project Two investment would total around £6 billion ($7.8 billion, 6.9 billion euros).

The farm would create up to 1,960 construction jobs and 580 operational and maintenance jobs, the government said.

Brent Cheshire, DONG Energy's UK chairman, welcomed the development consent.

"Hornsea Project Two provides us with another exciting development opportunity in offshore wind," he said.

The government said it expected 10GW of offshore wind to be installed by the end of the decade and a further 10GW of offshore wind capacity could be built in the 2020s.


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Aug 16, 2016
world's biggest bird-choppers seascape-destroyers project

Aug 16, 2016
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Aug 16, 2016
Wonder what affect these have on radar and early warning systems. Wonder what a sea skimming cruise missile would make of this, whether the wind turbines would throw it's guidance off, or act as a net. Perhaps the turbines may even cause a radar shadow. Any ideas?

Aug 16, 2016
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Aug 16, 2016
I bet it will be not manufactured in wind/solar-powered factories, and also "batteries not included". So fossil-fuel barons are very happy with this monumental project, a lot of coal/oil/natural gas will be necessary to build it and also to back up intermittency.
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Aug 16, 2016
I think a study needs to be done on the impact of all renewable energy sources on unicorn populations, stat.

Aug 16, 2016
Coal is being phased out - and you aint seen nothing yet.

Good thing they haven't phased out gasoline, how else would you boast about driving 1200 miles in 2 days.

Aug 17, 2016
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Aug 17, 2016
UK should take lessons from Germany Energiewende to learn that if you are against carbon-free nuclear power then you are in favor of fossil fuels.
"Germany's Energiewende: The intermittency problem remains"
"the problem of generating electricity on cloudy and windless days could only be managed because utilities were obliged to cover these intermittencies by maintaining and running fossil power plants as backup source, in an uneconomic mode."
"Germany's electricity generation on windy and sunny days often exceeds by far the grid's balancing abilities, forcing the power surplus into the adjacent grids of neighboring countries, and obliging other countries to compensate for German intermittencies."
"These solutions are neither sustainable nor possible in a carbon-free economy."
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Aug 17, 2016
UK should take lessons from Germany Energiewende to learn that if you are against carbon-free nuclear power then you are in favor of fossil fuels.

What are you blabbering about? Germany just chose to phase out nuclear first by public demand. Fossil fuels will be phased out next. That's not even in question.

Aug 17, 2016
Fossil fuels will be phased out next. That's not even in question.
"you can't simply add renewables to the grid in large volumes and think that's the end of the story":
"solar fluctuates with weather and the daily cycle, wind fluctuates with the wind"
"Turns out wind and solar have a secret friend: Natural gas"
https://www.washi...ral-gas/
http://www.visual...diagram/
Pro-renewable cultists will never learn the difference between fantasy and reality.

Aug 17, 2016
OK...here's for the mentally retarded (that means you Willie) :

The phase out of fossil isn't just being done by replacing it. It is also being done by increasing energy efficiency (investing in insulating and renovating buildings) as well as generally getting more efficient at using energy. Notice how the latest upswing in economy did not coincide with an upswing in energy usage?

And while there (currently) needs to be some backup capacity the reduction in emissions is not just down to the number of powerplants: It's how long these powerplants have to run. With more renewables these powerpants need to run less and less often. And yes: that means some natural gas plants as these have a very short run up time.

But as soon as tech settles on a good storage technology even those can be mothballed. And there's lready several viable methods out there.


Aug 17, 2016
UK should take lessons from Germany Energiewende to learn that if you are against carbon-free nuclear power then you are in favor of fossil fuels.
"Germany CO2 emissions rose over 1% in 2015" even after wasting trillion euros on eco-friendly bird-choppers/landscape-destroyers.
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Aug 17, 2016
Germany CO2 emissions rose over 1% in 2015"

Yep, but you're missing the part where 2015 a nuclear powerplant went offline that produced 1.5% of electricity in germany...and there was a 1.7 growth in GDP...sooo..do I need to spell it out to you what that 1% increase in CO2 emissions means? (Rethorical question...I know you don't have the brains)

Despite getting rid of nuclear first efficiency and changover to renewables are already working.

Aug 17, 2016
With rooftop solar pv, it will be no more necessary to ruin natural seascapes. gskam has found a way by using his rooftop pv to convert his fibs into electricity to power his entire state; I hope he shares such technology with his friends. Just imagine every time "greenie lie machines" echo "it is ever cheaper 2¢/kWh, almost for free" "ecologically friendly, does not kill birds" "zero land" "it is phasing out coal and natural gas" "does not require fossil fuels as backup" "it is clean, carbon-free" "manufactured in wind/solar-powered factories" "its components are being 100% recycled" ... , so a lot of gigawatts will be generated to power the entire world.

Aug 17, 2016
Wind and solar cheaper...
oops "batteries not included", but no problem, use cheap natural gas/fracking in the place.

Aug 18, 2016
Wind and solar cheaper...
oops "batteries not included", but no problem, use cheap natural gas/fracking in the place.


Of course, batteries are doomed to never be cheap and never have improved storage. Oh, that dramatic reality of ours, the non-improvement of technological wonders.....
Oh well. At least we can chop birds.

Aug 18, 2016
Green fundamentalism has nothing to do with the environment or saving the planet, its purpose is to ruin natural landscapes and keep us symbiotic with fossil fuels. No economically affordable energy storage solution.
Renewable is not the answer, it's a big part of the problem.
Compact carbon-free nuclear power is the mankind's only hope to stop climate change.

Aug 18, 2016
Meanwhile, the Hinkley plants are once again threatened by reality and cost. Like the Vogtle plants. Like the EPR with metallurgical problems in France. How about the one in China? Will they ever be finished?

Aug 18, 2016
I've had it with the sponsored trolls having carte blanche and anyone fighting them having to follow the rules. WillieWanker is the loathsome rat antisciencegorilla's cock puppet. But that's OK because the Heritage Foundation and its ilk pay for no conservative comments to ever be deleted.

I understand those that think having a rebuttal to this nonsense is important for others to see, but it's not a level playing field. I'm not wasting any more time with it. I will check in only to get any additional data I need to track these idiots down and let employers/clients/family/friends know what they get up to.

Bong was banned for publishing one word that would let benji/bshitt know that he knew who she was. GhastlyOtto...no problem. Not that he's one of the protected class. I suspect he has made a donation.

The site is run by pimps. You will never win as long as you rely on comments here to do the job. Leave it to the compulsive narcissists like George to argue with 'em.

Aug 18, 2016
Stop with the narcissist crap. I only defended myself. If you cannot understand that, perhaps you could go back to twitter.

I had a extremely varied life, and many experiences were relevant to the discussions here. Perhaps you stayed in one narrow field all your life? Too bad.

Take your crabby attitude with you.

Aug 18, 2016
world's biggest bird-choppers seascape-destroyers project

Not really. And what harm wind power does is nothing compared to the massive carnage done to wildlife including birds from your dirty oil and coal power with its local pollution sometimes even including smog plus all the extra hurricanes, droughts, floods etc from the resulting global warming. Wind power will help to replace that far greater evil. If you are for some reason really specifically concerned about the birds in particular, which I don't believe you are, you would support wind power (plus other renewables) because it is vastly less harmful to have that for the birds than global warming and pollution..

Aug 18, 2016
...
Renewable is not the answer, it's a big part of the problem.
Compact carbon-free nuclear power is the mankind's only hope to stop climate change.

That is clearly incorrect.
I have nothing against nuclear in principle and I am sure the technology can make it safe enough.
However, currently, nuclear power is by far not an economically viable way of generating all the power we need to globally replace coal and oil and the economic forecast for that changing does look promising for the foreseeable future.
Therefore, the only answer for now is to go mostly/totally renewable with perhaps that renewable supplemented with just a bit of nuclear where and when we can economically afford to have it.

Aug 18, 2016
Wind and solar cheaper...
oops "batteries not included", but no problem, use cheap natural gas/fracking in the place.

Off-the-grid energy storage is already economically feasible in some places and continuous advances in technology will inevitably keep bringing that cost down until it is cost effective everywhere.

+ a long term investment in a supergrid ( https://en.wikipe...per_grid ) would eliminate the need to store much if any energy off-the-grid.

+ having a combination of different kinds of renewables would reduce the need for energy storage.

+ marine current power ( https://en.wikipe...nt_power ) is constant and continuous i.e. doesn't stop when the wind isn't plowing or the sun isn't shining.

The combination of exploiting all the above would render you concern unjustified.

Aug 18, 2016
I had a extremely varied life
-And we know from what youve told us that this is because you were run out of most every job you ever held.
and many experiences were relevant to the discussions here
-In your mind. When people bother to check on your facts or your CV they discover its mostly made up crap and bullshit.
Meanwhile, the Hinkley
Odd that george kamburoff seems so enamoured with someone else with similar afflictions
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compulsive narcissists like George
Narcissists are usually rational enough to know not to expose themselves and their families to potential abuse and embarrassment by disclosing sensitive personal info online the way that george kamburoff routinely does.

Narcissists love themselves too much. George is way way beyond narcissism.

He will tell you he knows no fear. Hes got to stimulate that dead psyche of his somehow doesnt he?

Aug 18, 2016
"We are not commonly aware of, nor do we usually identify, the larger number of nonviolent sociopaths among us, people who often are not blatant lawbreakers, and against whom our formal legal system provides little defense.

"Most of us would not imagine any correspondence between conceiving an ethnic genocide and, say, guiltlessly lying to one's boss about a coworker. But the psychological correspondence is not only there; it is chilling. Simple and profound, the link is the absence of the inner mechanism that beats up on us, emotionally speaking, when we make a choice we view as immoral, unethical, neglectful, or selfish."

-Narcissists lie to make themselves look better and to avoid losing. George kamburoff has repeatedly demonstrated that he is unconcerned with how he looks. He is too addicted to the art of lying to care about what it does to him or his family.

Aug 19, 2016
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Renewable is not the answer, it's a big part of the problem.
Compact carbon-free nuclear power is the mankind's only hope to stop climate change.

That is clearly incorrect.
I have nothing against nuclear in principle and I am sure the technology can make it safe enough.
However, currently, nuclear power is by far not an economically viable way of generating all the power we need to globally replace coal and oil and the economic forecast for that changing does look promising for the foreseeable future....

Misedit:
that "does look promising" should have been "doesn't look promising"

Aug 24, 2016
1.8 gigawatts. for £6 billion , is that correct ?? I notice they don't give watts per dollar ratio..
As any one done the dollars per watt ratio??

Aug 24, 2016
unreal, capital costs of generation are usually discussed and expressed in $/kW.

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