Toyota aims to nearly eliminate gasoline cars by 2050

October 14, 2015 byYuri Kageyama
Toyota aims to nearly eliminate gasoline cars by 2050
In this June 26, 2014 photo, visitors look at Toyota Motor Corp.'s new fuel cell vehicle (FCV) on display at a Toyota showroom in Tokyo. Toyota, under ambitious environmental targets, is aiming to sell hardly any regular gasoline vehicles by 2050, only hybrids and fuel cells, to radically reduce emissions. The automaker promised to involve governments, affiliated companies and other "stakeholders" in its push to reduce average emissions from Toyota cars by 90 percent by about 2050, compared with 2010 levels. Electric cars weren't part of their vision, outlined by top Toyota officials at a Tokyo museum on Wednesday, Oct. 14, 2015, striking a contrast with rivals such as Nissan Motor Co., which has banked on that zero-emissions technology. (AP Photo/Koji Sasahara)

Toyota, under ambitious environmental targets, is aiming to sell hardly any regular gasoline vehicles by 2050, only hybrids and fuel cells, to radically reduce emissions.

The automaker promised to involve governments, affiliated companies and other "stakeholders" in its push to reduce average emissions from Toyota cars by 90 percent by about 2050, compared with 2010 levels.

Electric cars weren't part of their vision, outlined by top Toyota Motor Corp. officials at a Tokyo museum on Wednesday, striking a contrast with rivals such as Nissan Motor Co., which has banked on that zero-emissions technology.

Toyota's commitments come at a time when the auto industry has been shaken by a scandal at Germany's Volkswagen AG, in which it admitted it cheated on diesel emissions tests covering millions of cars.

Toyota projected its annual sales of fuel cell vehicles will reach more than 30,000 by about 2020, which is 10 times its projected figure for 2017.

Fuel cells run on hydrogen and are zero-emissions. Toyota's Mirai fuel cell went on sale late last year. Toyota has received 1,500 orders for the Mirai in Japan, and it just went on sale in the U.S. and Europe.

Annual sales of hybrid vehicles will reach 1.5 million and by 2020 Toyota would have sold 15 million hybrids, nearly twice what it has sold so far around the world, it said.

Hybrids switch back and forth between a gasoline engine and an electric motor to deliver an efficient ride.

Toyota aims to nearly eliminate gasoline cars by 2050
Toyota Motor Corp. Chairman Takeshi Uchiyamada speaks during the 2015 Toyota Environmental Forum in Tokyo Wednesday, Oct. 14, 2015. Toyota, under ambitious environmental targets, is aiming to sell hardly any regular gasoline vehicles by 2050, only hybrids and fuel cells, to radically reduce emissions. Uchiyamada, known as the "father of the Prius," said the company was taking the environment seriously because it has always tried to contribute to a better society. (AP Photo/Yuri Kageyama)

The Toyota Prius, which went on sale in 1997, is the top-selling hybrid, with about 4 million sold globally so far. Toyota is promising to develop a hybrid version in every category, including usually gas-guzzling sport-utility vehicles, as well as luxury models.

"You may think 35 years is a long time," Senior Managing Officer Kiyotaka Ise told reporters. "But for an automaker to envision all combustion engines as gone is pretty extraordinary."

Ise acknowledged some gasoline engine cars would remain in less developed markets, but only in small numbers.

He and other Toyota officials insisted on the inevitability of their overall vision, stressing that the problems of global warming and environmental destruction made a move toward a hydrogen-based society a necessity.

Experts agree more has to be done to curtail global warming and pollution, and nations are increasingly tightening emissions standards.

But they are divided on whether all gasoline engines will disappear, or they'll stay on, thanks to greener internal combustion engines, as well as the arrival of clean diesel technology.

Tatsuo Yoshida, senior analyst at Barclays Securities Japan in Tokyo, said Toyota's goals weren't far-fetched.

Toyota aims to nearly eliminate gasoline cars by 2050
Toyota Motor Corp. Chairman Takeshi Uchiyamada speaks during the 2015 Toyota Environmental Forum in Tokyo Wednesday, Oct. 14, 2015. Toyota, under ambitious environmental targets, is aiming to sell hardly any regular gasoline vehicles by 2050, only hybrids and fuel cells, to radically reduce emissions. Uchiyamada, known as the "father of the Prius," said the company was taking the environment seriously because it has always tried to contribute to a better society. (AP Photo/Yuri Kageyama)

"The internal combustion engine is developing and metamorphosing into hybrids," he said. "Toyota has been working on this technology for a long time. When officials speak out like this, it means they are 120 percent confident this is their scenario."

As part of its environmental vision, Toyota also promised to reduce carbon dioxide emissions from production lines during manufacturing in 2030 to about a third of 2001 levels.

Toyota said it will develop manufacturing technology that uses hydrogen, and will use wind power at its Tahara plant, both by 2020. It also promised to beef up various recycling measures, including developing ways to build vehicles from recycled ones.

When asked why Toyota remained so cautious on electric vehicles, they said they take too long to recharge, despite battery innovations that have made them smaller, restricting them for short-range travel in cities.

Toyota Chairman Takeshi Uchiyamada, known as the "father of the Prius," said the company was taking the environment seriously because it has always tried to contribute to a better society.

"We have the same principles since our founding," he said, showing on stage a photo of Sakichi Toyoda, the Toyota founder's father, who invented a textile loom in 1891. "That is Toyota's DNA."

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gkam
2.3 / 5 (6) Oct 14, 2015
This looks like a radical step, but they have been working with this technology for so long, I think they can do it. I dare not mention my work with them on stationary applications for their automotive fuel cell several years ago.

But it is true. I was hoping to design some applications for them, but was mainly used for advice, some reports, and the ability to get the Executive VP for Special Projects into the offices of utility CEOs. We talked to some very forward-looking CEOs who were already re-defining the utility business with the best controls and finding other ways of getting power to folk without powerlines. They include LPG generators, solar, wind, and other inputs their customer could use to power themselves, . . or become producers for the co-op.

Like Musk, Toyota recently released their patents for all to use, if I remember right.
TheGhostofOtto1923
2.3 / 5 (6) Oct 14, 2015
I dare not mention my work with them on stationary applications for their automotive fuel cell several years ago.

But it is true. I was hoping to design some applications for them
Whoa! Bullshit meter just hit 10.

You were hoping to dsign some applications for them but they looked into your backround and found out that you had had 20+ temp positions during the course of your carreer, and had been let go from most of them, and also that you misrepresented yourself as an engr with no education or degree, and also that you had misrepresented your MS as something other than a 'life experiences' award which required no further education, testing, or thesis besides pop sci article for a thesis.

And then they heard all that crap about your 'airman of the month' free dinner, and read your 'filthy fuels' t shirt, and decided not to take the chance.
TheGhostofOtto1923
2.3 / 5 (6) Oct 14, 2015
I was hoping to design some applications for them, but was mainly used for advice, some reports, and the ability to get the Executive VP for Special Projects into the offices of utility CEOs... We talked to some very forward-looking CEOs
So... if Im reading this right, you likely never got to do anything at all for them, correct?

You made some phone calls.

Thats it.

Despite your embellishments this is all that actually happened, right?

You can forgive me for being skeptical.

"there is something else about the speech of psychopaths that is equally puzzling: their frequent use of contradictory and logically inconsistent statements that usually escape detection."
gkam
2 / 5 (4) Oct 14, 2015
I love it, otto. I do not read your stuff, but certainly appreciate how you discredit yourself with such verve and vigor.

Yup, we traveled around the country talking to CEOs and examining the state of the art in the utility business. I am sorry I did not see you in any of those places. We did not visit schools jails or half-way houses.
TheGhostofOtto1923
1.8 / 5 (5) Oct 14, 2015
We talked to some very forward-looking CEOs who were already re-defining the utility business with the best controls and finding other ways of getting power to folk without powerlines. They include LPG generators, solar, wind, and other inputs their customer could use to power themselves, . . or become producers for the co-op
Irrespective of your zero cred due to previous bullshit, I am wondering what
We talked to some very forward-looking CEOs who were already re-defining the utility business with the best controls and finding other ways of getting power to folk without powerlines. They include LPG generators, solar, wind, and other inputs their customer could use to power themselves, . . or become producers for the co-op
-has to do with either the article (Toyota aims to nearly eliminate gasoline cars by 2050) or fuel cells in cars.

Can you explain this to me george?
gkam
2.6 / 5 (5) Oct 14, 2015
Automotive applications of fuel cells was the most difficult of all options for fuel cells. It required a system which could have low weight, small volume, low losses, very fast ram-up sustain high current loads, plus have sufficient power for off-the-line starts.

By solving all those requirements, they solved them for all applications. Expect to see them start a new front in the energy wars soon.
gkam
2.6 / 5 (5) Oct 14, 2015
Oops, that is supposed to be "ramp-up".
antigoracle
3.7 / 5 (3) Oct 14, 2015
was mainly used for
advice, ---- on how to scrape you off their shoes
some reports, ---- gskam learned to press the copy button on the Xerox
and the ability to get the Executive VP for Special Projects into the offices of utility CEOs -- gskam the doorman.

Now let me guess. You don't have solar panels, because you took your own advice.
TheGhostofOtto1923
1.8 / 5 (5) Oct 14, 2015
You still havent explained what
but was mainly used for advice, some reports, and the ability to get the Executive VP for Special Projects into the offices of utility CEOs. We talked to some very forward-looking CEOs who were already re-defining the utility business with the best controls and finding other ways of getting power to folk without powerlines. They include LPG generators, solar, wind, and other inputs their customer could use to power themselves, . . or become producers for the co-op
-has to do with
Automotive applications of fuel cells was the most difficult of all options for fuel cells. It required a system which could have low weight, small volume, low losses, very fast ram-up sustain high current loads, plus have sufficient power for off-the-line starts blah
-or the article itself, other than it gave you the excuse (in your mind) to talk about yourself and your dubious experiences?

Please explain.
TheGhostofOtto1923
1.8 / 5 (5) Oct 14, 2015
was mainly used for
advice, ---- on how to scrape you off their shoes
some reports, ---- gskam learned to press the copy button on the Xerox
and the ability to get the Executive VP for Special Projects into the offices of utility CEOs -- gskam the doorman
Heres my take; george the idle consultant made a number of cold calls to executives, got through to one of them, and promised to hook him up with other executives for amazing benefits.

Perhaps he knew 1 or 2 and flew over to talk to them.

End of story. Except fpr the enhanced and embellished version he has plopped here, which btw has nothing to do with the article.

Dat shit dont flush as usual.
gkam
2.6 / 5 (5) Oct 14, 2015
"Dat shit dont flush as usual."
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Yes, . . well thank you for your mature and professional opinion.
antigoracle
3 / 5 (4) Oct 14, 2015
@otto
From the dozens of times gskam has mentioned his "jobs", I've yet to see him give a case where he actually accomplished anything. The most astonishing thing though, is that he keeps telling these tales without any shame. The most telling was when he gave us comprehensive detail on the success of the solar panel installations of all his neighbours and then shamelessly admit he was the only one without.
TheGhostofOtto1923
2 / 5 (4) Oct 15, 2015
And his 'mainly used for advice' claim was probably him sitting in the guys office throwing the shit for 2 hours until he was politely asked to leave.

Yeah, we can expect anyone who is willing to lie about his degree or his solar panels or manure pollution claims in such an obvious and clumsy way, would quickly bore and offend any CEO.

BUT george is far more clever than the average CEO. Including Elon musk.
gkam
2 / 5 (4) Oct 15, 2015
Hey, otto, get over the fact I beat you at your hateful little gotcha game.

Outgrow it.

Man up.
TheGhostofOtto1923
1 / 5 (3) Oct 16, 2015
Hey, otto, get over the fact I beat you at your hateful little gotcha game
Another lie. Whyd you lie about your MS?
gkam
2.3 / 5 (3) Oct 17, 2015
Hey, otto, call or write to the school and see what they say. Stumpy did, can't you?

Then, you can tell who you are and what you have done.

Then, maybe we can help you with that terrible fixation and ego problem which dogs you day and night. It is becoming something you cannot control.
TheGhostofOtto1923
1 / 5 (2) Oct 17, 2015
Hey, otto, call or write to the school and see what they say. Stumpy did, can't you?
No he didnt. He told you to leave him out of it too because he now knows how sick you are.

Why should anybody call the school? YOU GAVE ira the proof that you lied about your MS.
http://phys.org/n...ack.html

-Youve lied about this very issue in many threads today. Honestly I think you get a thrill when people acknowledge you, even for lying and cheating.

Is this true?

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