Lightning's electromagnetic fields may have protective properties

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Lightning was the main electromagnetic presence in the Earth's atmosphere long before the invention of electricity. There are some 2,000 thunderstorms active at any given time, so humans and other organisms have been bathed in extremely low frequency (ELF) electromagnetic fields for billions of years.

These —the result of global lightning activity known as Schumann Resonances—are weak and difficult to detect. Scientists never suspected that they had any tangible impact on life on Earth. But a new Tel Aviv University study finds that these fields may have protective properties for organisms living under stress conditions.

Research for the study was led by Prof. Colin Price of TAU's Porter School of the Environment and Earth Sciences and conducted by his doctoral student Gal Elhalel in collaboration with Profs. Asher Shainberg and Dror Fixler of Bar Ilan University. It was published in Nature Scientific Reports on February 7.

"We found that under controlled conditions, the Schumann Resonance fields certainly had an effect on living tissues," Prof. Price says. "The most important effect was that the atmospheric ELF fields actually protected cells under stress conditions. In other words, when biological cells are under stress—due to lack of oxygen, for example—the atmospheric fields from lightning appear to protect them from damage. This may be related to the evolutionary role these fields have played on living organisms."

In the course of numerous laboratory experiments, in which the scientists induced fields similar to those in the atmosphere, they witnessed significant effects on living heart cells of rats within 30-40 minutes. Extremely weak magnetic fields in the 7.6-8Hz frequency range induced a number of effects when applied to rat , including reductions in spontaneous contractions, calcium transients and the release of Creatine Kinase (CK). (The release of CK into the liquid medium around the cardiac cells is a measure of damage to cardiac cells, which also occurs during heart attacks.) The scientists found that the effects were temporary, as the induced cell changes reversed when the fields were turned off.

"It is the first study that demonstrates a link between global lighting activity and the Schumann Resonances and the activity of living cells," Prof. Price says. "It may explain why all have in the same ELF spectral range, and it is the first time such a connection has been shown. This may have some therapeutic implications down the line, since these ELF fields appear to protect from damage, but this requires further research."

Prof. Price and his team are expanding their research to other types of to see if there is a similar effect of these electromagnetic fields on other cell types.


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More information: G. Elhalel et al. Cardioprotection from stress conditions by weak magnetic fields in the Schumann Resonance band, Scientific Reports (2019). DOI: 10.1038/s41598-018-36341-z
Journal information: Scientific Reports

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Feb 08, 2019
This type of work was done in the Soviet Union decades ago, and either not reported in the West or dismissed as pseudo-science

Feb 08, 2019
dismissed as pseudo-science
Seeing how much they lie I have to cite the parable of the boy who cried wolf. Maybe they should all vote for something other than lying.

So where are you from, Sergei? St. Petersburg? Moscow?

Go eat some black bread and drink some wodka.

Just askin' and stuff.

Feb 08, 2019
So, is this THE Dirk Bruere? OR just an admirer?

Feb 08, 2019
Under the correct conditions, pulsed magnetic and/or electric stimulation *may* aid healing by kick-starting reluctant osteocytes etc. UK's NICE regulators recently agreed use of some such equipment.

Snag is, there's so much 'woo' swirling around 'Schumann Resonance' and associated phenomena that trying to find real science is very, very hard.

IIRC, Wilhelm Reich, who originally worked in this field, thought he'd discovered a panacea via stimulating his patients' 'life force'. When enough of his many bold claims proved to be 'Snake Oil', the backlash destroyed him and 'poisoned the well' against more cautious investigation...

Feb 08, 2019
Here's an interesting question: might some sort of magnetic therapy help with bone calcium loss in astronauts? It's not like we don't have a space station to test it.

Feb 08, 2019
I'm having a hard time getting around how electricity was invented.

Which would explain why the rest of this looks manufactured.

Feb 08, 2019
Since there's lightning it's obvious electricity wasn't invented. It was discovered.

Maybe you've heard of Franklin's kite experiments.

Feb 08, 2019
@DS, I've suggested its use thus, and also for helping the 'monogenetic' type of 'brittle bone' disease, been laughed from the room...

Disclaimer: I have a 90+% functional rather than pinned right ankle due to extensive home physiotherapy using electric stimulation via a generic pharmacy TENS 'wand', and a similarly pulsed magnetic widget. I could tell how those messy 'low' breaks were healing because each responded to stimulation with subtle, but very localised tingling. Months ahead of any 'best case' schedule, I told my consultant that they were now healed. He laughed, sent me for x-rays. He took one look at them, sent me for more x-rays, then sat shaking his head that I'd called it right. His metal-work was there, but I didn't even have residual 'callus' at the break sites...
As ever, YMMV, and Due Care, Please.

Feb 08, 2019
Considering TENS I'm surprised anyone would laugh. Did they ask the astronauts?

Feb 08, 2019
dismissed as pseudo-science
Seeing how much they lie I have to cite the parable of the boy who cried wolf. Maybe they should all vote for something other than lying.

So where are you from, Sergei? St. Petersburg? Moscow?

Go eat some black bread and drink some wodka.

Just askin' and stuff.


Im assuming from the slant of the "wit" in your answer that the "they" you refer are Soviet scientists or reporters of their discoveries (propagandists might the right term).
But my thinking-challenged friend, most of the information or reports from the Soviet Union to the great Western capitalist empires came through theGovt.Services of those western nations. So by default those "they" are actually yours and all that lying was from your govt. for your dimly-lit benefit.
Good luck working all that out, remember to take it easy, i lie at a time and you may find the truth

Feb 08, 2019
So you must be the starshina.

Many Russian scientists have discovered many interesting pieces of science, But when you start bragging about it, especially after plotting to overthrow the government of the US you'll find that a lot of us get pretty suspicious. Especially when this is your first post here.

Feb 08, 2019
Ordinary person posting here. Being retired on SS, I have come to the conclusion years ago that science is not shared, significant discoveries seem to have been sidelined only to be 'rediscovered' later when it is convenient for the powers-that-be.
Oh, and you don't have to dis me as a troll, my home town already took maximum punishment for being a know-it-all.

Feb 08, 2019
@katesisco Yeah, that's why there's videos of cars running on nothing but water from the 80s, patents in the 90s, and then they vanish off the planet like smoke in a windstorm.

Feb 08, 2019
dismissed as pseudo-science
Seeing how much they lie I have to cite the parable of the boy who cried wolf. Maybe they should all vote for something other than lying.

So where are you from, Sergei? St. Petersburg? Moscow?

Go eat some black bread and drink some wodka.

Just askin' and stuff.


Im assuming from the slant of the "wit" in your answer that the "they" you refer are Soviet scientists or reporters of their discoveries (propagandists might the right term).
But my thinking-challenged friend, most of the information or reports from the Soviet Union to the great Western capitalist empires came through theGovt.Services of those western nations. So by default those "they" are actually yours and all that lying was from your govt. for your dimly-lit benefit.
says Noits_sac

Don't mind the nonsensical mutterings of Da Schneibo. He is an unAmerican nazionalsocialist and subscribes to the following:
-contd-

Feb 08, 2019
-contd-
National Socialist black metal

"National Socialist black metal (also known as NSBM, Aryan black metal or Neo-Nazi black metal), is a political philosophy within black metal music that promotes Nazism or similar ideologies. NSBM artists typically combine neo-Nazi ideology with ethnic European paganism and opposition to "foreign" religions such as Christianity, Islam and Judaism. However, some artists are Satanists or occultists, rather than pagans. NSBM is not seen as a distinct genre, but as a neo-völkisch movement within black metal. According to Mattias Gardell, NSBM musicians see this ideology as "a logical extension of the political and spiritual dissidence inherent in black metal".[1]"

Da Schniebo will, of course, deny it. Look for his references to the mysterious "jebus", which seems to be a cultish personage in whose existence Da Schneibo strongly believes.

Feb 08, 2019
says Noits_sac
You mentioned "great Capitalist western empires". I find that quite interesting. Other than poverty-stricken western countries such as Cuba and Venezuela whose common people are currently enjoying starvation, poor economy, lack of the basic essentials, high unemployment or no employment, and low medical resources under the Maduro and Castro dictatorships which prohibit Capitalism - the USA, Canada and others in the western hemisphere have wonderful economies and high good-paying employment.
However, the anti-Capitalist Socialists who have recently been elected to serve in the US Congress are trying to convince their voters that Capitalism is evil and Socialism/Communism is good. Somehow, the clueless millennials have bought into such pigswill by the once great Democrat Party of the US - and will most likely vote for more Socialist/Communists in 2020 - which will make their attempt to transition the USA into something that resembles the USSR under Stalin.

Feb 08, 2019
"These electromagnetic fields—the result of global lightning activity known as Schumann Resonances—are weak and difficult to detect. Scientists never suspected that they had any tangible impact on life on Earth. But a new Tel Aviv University study finds that these fields may have protective properties for organisms living under stress conditions."

Ahaa - so Science is finally finding out that life forms of Earth are protected, as it had been for the past billion or so years since the creation of the first cells in the waters of Earth. Life forms of Earth hold a very UNIQUE place in this corner of the Universe - which scientists will gradually be finding out - slowly but surely. The Dinosaurs were wiped out for a good reason - death by asteroid - to make way for future sentient life forms that could not compete otherwise. It is the Grand Design - for which all humans should be thankful.

Feb 08, 2019
Ordinary person posting here. Being retired on SS, I have come to the conclusion years ago that science is not shared, significant discoveries seem to have been sidelined only to be 'rediscovered' later when it is convenient for the powers-that-be.
Oh, and you don't have to dis me as a troll, my home town already took maximum punishment for being a know-it-all.

Quite correct, but I'd add in addition to "when it is convenient", I'd say "when its unavoidable". As technology advances it becomes more difficult to hide things, or it becomes easier for anyone to notice what has been ignored.

These benefits to cells by EM fields has been known for a long time. The Flexner report may have done some things to standardize medicine, but it also did a lot to remove, or hide useful benefits.

https://www.scien...r-report

Feb 09, 2019
It sounds almost like a genre fantasy novel, neurons clocked by a global heartbeat.

Feb 09, 2019
@O, I hope you're joking, as neurons do not run on electricity per logic chips, but on propagating waves of chemicals, sodium-rich vs potassium rich...

Feb 09, 2019
as neurons do not run on electricity per logic chips, but on propagating waves of chemicals, sodium-rich vs potassium rich...

No, the movement of charge is responsible. The chemicals are the medium which provides the charges.

Feb 09, 2019
as neurons do not run on electricity per logic chips, but on propagating waves of chemicals, sodium-rich vs potassium rich...

No, the movement of charge is responsible. The chemicals are the medium which provides the charges.

Actually, I think CD might be right on this one...

Anyway, biology evolved as an adaptive response to such global phenomena.
So, any "protective" attributes are merely an example of adaptation.

Feb 09, 2019
Just as EM fields can be protective, they can also be destructive. Life has adapted to some natural sources of EM fields and can thrive in them but has been shown to suffer ill-effects from high energy space storms caused by the Sun. Time will tell what implications of exposure to the various anthropogenic EM fields will be.

Feb 09, 2019
Actually, direct electrical transmission happens only at synapses, and only some of those; some synapses are chemical. The signal down an axon from a neuron is electrochemical, which is why nerve impulses move only a few tens of feet per second at most instead of at the speed of light. It's also noteworthy that the electrical transmission across a synapse is not electrons; it is ions.

So the point is debatable, particularly since axons make up most of the body of a nerve.

Feb 09, 2019
@O, I hope you're joking, as neurons do not run on electricity per logic chips, but on propagating waves of chemicals, sodium-rich vs potassium rich...


No, not joking. The article says "all living organisms have electrical activity in the same ELF spectral range." There *are* synchronized waves of activity in the brain &c.

Feb 09, 2019
@O, they all operate on their own synchronization, not from some outside force.

Feb 10, 2019
@O, they all operate on their own synchronization, not from some outside force.


You know this how? Remember, the article did say there was "an effect on living tissues" albeit "under controlled conditions." And that this supposed self-synchronization just happens to be at about the same rate as the lighting-induced background.

Remember, too, that I'm not saying This Proves A Hard Gaian Hypothesis or anything! I'm more saying how twee it would be if it does turn out that there is this sort of global neural clock because, say, some of the ions are somehow 'surfing' the ELF in some way.

Feb 10, 2019
Disclaimer: One of my very close relatives had both uncontrolled and photo-sensitive epilepsy, a good day being 'only' a dozen full-on Grand Mal fits...

@O, IMHO, you know NOT of what you speak. Begone.

Feb 10, 2019
Disclaimer: One of my very close relatives had both uncontrolled and photo-sensitive epilepsy, a good day being 'only' a dozen full-on Grand Mal fits...

@O, IMHO, you know NOT of what you speak. Begone.


It is sad to hear of your close relative's epileptic seizures. Perhaps science will come up with a cure for his or her condition soon. But Onathan did not say anything specific to your relative's health problems - only referring to what is in the article. Many humans suffer from all forms of epilepsy, as well as many other diseases. So this article that describes a new-found anomaly that is a part of the Earth's Natural Order may one day eliminate, or at least help science to understand better how to cure common diseases.

Feb 10, 2019
After having read the "Summary and Conclusions" in the DOI report of this article, I am more convinced than ever that the human and animal physical body is a programmed Machine that responds to outside forces/stimuli, and may actually depend on such outside stimuli to retain the Life Force itself.
This is amazing in that the physical responses of heart cells to the Electromagnetic Field (EMF) - even after the removal of those cells (having been excised from the physical body) - then washed, cleaned of remaining blood and placed in solutions - then zapped with low power EMF - causes such cells to beat as though still alive.
Can this method bring back the dead, under certain conditions? Would they want to come back?

Feb 10, 2019
@eggtarded religious troll
Can this method bring back the dead, under certain conditions?
short answer: NO

long answer: NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO (etc)
I am more convinced than ever that
oh, well then! f*ck the science, eggy is convinced!

if only there were a methodology to test things objectively allowing for factually based arguments about reality rather than speculative beliefs... Hmmmmm

Feb 10, 2019
@O, they all operate on their own synchronization, not from some outside force.

DS,
Surely there must be some connection, inasmuch as biologic systems have evolved with this "drumbeat" on a (fairly) regular rhythm...
Maybe call it "syncopation"...?

Feb 10, 2019
Welcome back, stumps!
Captain Stumpy> NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

We missed you
when we say we, not me personally as your always quite as a mouse
that we can't hear this argy-bargy over on the other boards
but
there are plenty of lost souls for your angelic magic to sooth all this outbreak of finrot in your absence of late
Just put on your angelic robes, stumps
and make your nightly pilgrimage through these corridors
You add purpose to these lonely souls Lifetime!

Feb 10, 2019
We are part of nature, whether science is able to document it or not. It would be nice if scientists would not limit us to just what science knows. Like the assertion that vaccines are science. Well maybe many of the illnesses we get also have protective affects that science can't document.

Feb 10, 2019
@O, they all operate on their own synchronization, not from some outside force.

DS,
Surely there must be some connection, inasmuch as biologic systems have evolved with this "drumbeat" on a (fairly) regular rhythm...
Maybe call it "syncopation"...?
Syncopation only works on the individual organism level.

Feb 10, 2019
@grandpa
It would be nice if scientists would not limit us to just what science knows
science doesn't limit us to just what science knows; science limits what is factually known about reality to objective, evidence-based validated information
Like the assertion that vaccines are science
here is the problem with your comment: it's you opinion based upon your fear and a known charlatan (Wakefield) who was proven to be a fraud

so, what does the science say about the efficacy and safety of vaccines?
https://scholar.g...mp;btnG=

Vaccines work - that is not to say there are zero risks involved: the human body is a complex organism and a lot of sh*t can go wrong

however, the anti-vaxx movement is based solely upon fear, conspiracist ideation, ignorance and blatant fraud

celebrating idiocy doesn't make one a visionary
https://www.youtu...EwjBXlZE

Feb 11, 2019
"Can this method bring back the dead, under certain conditions? Would they want to come back?"
{{ Cough }} It depends on your definition of 'death'...
CPR ? Defibrillators ?
And a default of 'YES' unless 'DNR' posted ??

Feb 11, 2019
We are part of nature, whether science is able to document it or not. It would be nice if scientists would not limit us to just what science knows. Like the assertion that vaccines are science. Well maybe many of the illnesses we get also have protective affects that science can't document.
says grandpa

That is correct. The human and animal bodies are programmed by the Natural Order to help eliminate disease-causing organisms through the immune system that fights off infections under most conditions. This protection has been with humans and animals long before there were any scientists/researchers to find these things out. Many childhood diseases provide immunity for life, once contracted - such as German measles and mumps. Humans had been programmed for such immunity. If it didn't kill you when you had it - you will never get it again.

Feb 11, 2019
@SEU: Vaccination gives you the benefits of such prior exposure WITHOUT the mortal risk of the illness and complications, scarring etc.
Remember Smallpox ? Polio ??

Feb 11, 2019
@Nik
It depends on your definition of 'death'...
CPR ? Defibrillators
defibrillators aren't used in asystole (flat line, or "death")
Electrical defibrillation should not be applied indiscriminately to the patient in asystole. This is not only fruitless, but also detrimental, eliminating any possibility of recovering a rhythm
https://emedicine...ment#d10

Electrical shocks may produce a stunned heart, causing a profound parasympathetic discharge, making resuscitation impossible. Therefore, routine shocking of asystole can worsen a bad situation
https://calsprogr...t13.html

on that last link, check out the treatments under "Drugs Used for Asystole Resuscitation"

auto-defibrillators can and are used to track heart activity, but the TV uses the shock for drama because jabbing a needle into an IV isn't anywhere near as dramatic

Feb 11, 2019
@Captain, IIRC, defib-related stuff is used to stop and re-start the heart for 'open access' surgery.

Given the other poster's comment history, I did not want to get too technical...
;-)

Feb 11, 2019
@SEU: Vaccination gives you the benefits of such prior exposure WITHOUT the mortal risk of the illness and complications, scarring etc.
Remember Smallpox ? Polio ??
say Nik_2213

Yes. I do remember them well. Also cholera, whooping cough, leprosy and others whose names I no longer recall. In those days there were no such things as injectable medications nor was there anesthesia. Humans suffered and died. You are fortunate to be living in these times.

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