Now that UK nuclear power plans are in tatters, it's vital to double down on wind and solar

Now that UK nuclear power plans are in tatters, it's vital to double down on wind and solar
More spin less gas? Credit: Marc Stuber

Now that Japanese giants Toshiba and Hitachi have walked away from UK nuclear power projects that had previously been abandoned by others, it has forced the government to reassess the pro-nuclear bias of its energy policy. Greg Clark, the UK business secretary, has recognised that nuclear power is no longer cost competitive with renewable energy, but don't expect any extra push into the cheaper technology.

There is easily enough solar and available to make up for the cancellation of the nuclear projects and to produce the low-carbon electricity required to make the UK's 2030 carbon emissions targets achievable. Instead, however, the country's incentives and regulations favour developing more power driven by . Having hacked back emissions from power by over two-thirds since 1990, progress with decarbonising the grid risks coming to an end.

According to the UK parliament's Committee on Climate Change, the UK needs to cut power emissions from about 265g of carbon dioxide per kilowatt hour in 2017 to under 100g by 2030. The government had been substantially relying on nuclear power to do this, having originally identified eight sites as viable for new plants. Six projects were taken forward, including Hitachi and Toshiba plants in Wales and Cumbria respectively.

Yet despite much larger government incentives than those available for renewables, most private nuclear builders are now steering clear, having seen the problems with new plants in the likes of the US and France. The only two projects still on the slate are a joint venture by EDF of France and CGN of China – both foreign state-owned companies. They are building the UK's first new plant in over two decades, Hinkley C in south-west England; while also planning a second, Bradwell B, in the south east.

Nuclear and renewables

Even before the latest announcement that Hitachi's Wylfa plant in Wales was being suspended, the Committee on Climate Change was already saying the UK needed to build more renewable capacity to reach its carbon reduction targets. Now the problem is even worse.

In 2018, 19% of the UK's electricity was generated by nuclear plants. With most existing plants due to retire over the next few years, I calculate this may now fall to 10% by 2030 when you factor in the new-build cancellations. Solar and generation could easily more than make up for this. For years, renewables' share of generation has been steadily rising. It reached 30% in 2018 and is due to reach 35% in 2020. But with no new incentives for onshore wind and solar and only limited incentives for offshore wind, it looks likely to fall far short of its potential.

The government incentivises renewable energy projects through so-called contracts for difference (CFD) auctions in which the most competitive bidders are granted contracts to supply electricity at fixed prices. This year, it is set to auction some new offshore wind farm contracts. Only a trickle of projects that don't receive such incentives go ahead, so the number of contracts on offer effectively dictates how much offshore wind capacity will be built.

Now that UK nuclear power plans are in tatters, it's vital to double down on wind and solar
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With offshore wind currently providing about 7% of generation, I have heard from informal soundings that the new contracts will add less than 10% more. In other words, it would at best offset the decline in nuclear. With no further contracts in the pipeline at present, it suggests low-carbon power in the UK is at a standstill.

Power politics

The reason why more renewables are not on the cards is because the Treasury is keen to limit energy incentives. It worries that the electricity price has been increasing – and hence the Treasury wants to strictly limit new incentives, the costs of which are added to electricity bills. This, however, ignores the fact that CFD prices will benefit from the falling cost of building offshore wind farms – the price has more than halved in three years. Nevertheless, the amount of money available to pay for the contracts is being limited to around half that being made available to owners of gas-fired power plants to supply capacity when the wind isn't blowing.

If all 27GW of offshore wind power schemes in various stages of planning got contracts, I calculate it would supply around one-third of the total electricity requirement. Coupled with the remaining nuclear power and the renewables that are already onstream, that would reach the 75% of power that the Committee on Climate Change reckons needs to be coming from these low-carbon sources by 2030 to achieve the emissions targets. This is not counting potential offshore wind resources which are not even being mobilised, plus large possibilities for onshore wind and solar. Instead, gas-fired power looks set to supply around half of UK electricity by 2030, compared to 40% at present.

One government justification for being less generous to renewables is that unlike gas or nuclear, they do not represent "firm" power – in other words, they only generate when the wind is blowing or the sun is shining. Proponents of renewable energy counter that you can reduce the generating capacity required by increasing the use of batteries to store power on the grid and by incentivising consumers to, say, use more power overnight when demand is lower.

Yet one other option that attracts less attention is that you also get spare "firm" capacity from small gas engines or open-cycle turbines. These can be built quickly and would only be sparingly needed in a system mostly supplied by renewables.

Based on my calculations using Hinkley C and Wylfa, they cost around one-twentieth of the projected cost of new nuclear power. They are also nearly half the price of large gas-fired "CCGT" plants. Instead, however, the government spends the lion's share of its incentives pot on large conventional , many of which would operate whether they were subsidised or not.

The underlying obstacle seems to be political opposition within the Conservative Party. My understanding from renewable energy lobbying sources is that the government's Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy would like to promote more, but is held back by the Treasury, which wants to leave it to "the market".

The upshot is that government policy is offering large incentives to new nuclear, gas-fired power and also shale gas extraction – but, paradoxically, not many are actually being developed. Meanwhile the cheapest options – onshore wind, solar and offshore wind – are being discriminated against. The collapse of the UK's plans should be an opportunity to think again. How frustrating that decarbonising is instead falling off the agenda.


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Jan 23, 2019
Nukes are losers. We cannot afford them, and if we try, it will be too late to save ourselves, since it takes ten years to design and build one of those monsters.

Jan 23, 2019
haha ,now UK has to wreck its power grid like australia , the future looks like Lagos

Jan 23, 2019
Wind and solar are just 'decorative facades' for gas(fracking) in order to displace carbon-free nuclear energy, a crime in the face of Climate Change.
"Major coal and natural gas companies are using renewable energy as the lipstick on their pig. Don't buy it."

"..carbon emissions targets.."
"..gas-fired power plants to supply capacity when the wind isn't blowing.."
Intermittent renewables are a trillion-dollar fiasco at reducing emissions, e.g. Germany, Denmark, South Australia, California, Minnesota, etc.
"If you look around a little http://electricitymap.org , you will quickly notice that countries with low CO2 emissions create this with a lot of hydropower, with a lot of nuclear energy or with a lot of both."
"The ones that went with nuclear and hydro decarbonized. The ones that went with wind and solar failed and keep failing."
"While nuclear and hydro are strongly correlated with decarbonization of energy at aggregated national levels, solar and wind are not."

Jan 23, 2019
We cannot afford them, and if we try, it will be too late to save ourselves, since it takes ten years to design and build one of those monsters.
glam-Skippy,,, there may be the place for them.


Jan 23, 2019
Yet despite much larger government incentives than those available for renewables
...[
One government justification for being less generous to renewables is that unlike gas or nuclear, they do not represent "firm" power –

Translation: Copious subsidies for energy sources where few can make a profit (and hence there is ample opportunity for bribes).

Can it get any more obvious?

Jan 23, 2019
well, the atomic priesthoodwink will be displeased by this public admission.

They need centralized, strictly regulated, police-state enforced protection for their monster machines.

& let's not forget the exorbitant salaries for administration.

& try not to pretend that when efforts to shut their installations down? These nukengineers are not above extortion.

Threatening to abandon their posts if they were denied their lucrative supremacy.

Yeah, solar & wind biomass & still other energy sources still being invented, are definitely not perfect. Still evolving.

But at least they are dispersed & diverse. Without the heavy tax subsidies for facility security & military defenses needed for the nuclear industries.

Will there be failures, sure.
Will they be radioactive?
No?
A blessing!

Jan 23, 2019
Were is the place for them? Grand Gulf is running at what, . . 20%?

The cheapest power was bid last year at 2.1 cents/kWh for wind plus battery storage. They admit Vogtle will be over 15 cents/kWh. And it will have to run for 50 years at that rate to pay off
So guess what? It won't.

Jan 23, 2019
...They need centralized, strictly regulated, police-state enforced protection...
Because they need protection from Eco-terrorists/Fossil-shills.
"The only terrorists who have ever attacked nuclear plants were anti-nuclear activists like the ones leading Germany's efforts to incite a continent-wide panic."
https://www.forbe...r-power/
"I call them ecoterrorists, because they do more harm than good to the environment."
https://pbs.twimg...0frv.jpg

The cheapest power was bid last year at 2.1 cents/kWh for wind plus battery storage.
If it were really true that "wind/solar+batteries" is "at 2.1 cents/kWh" and good at producing energy, then droves of people would be buying and installing solar panels/windmills/batteries and disconnecting from the grid with no need for any incentive/propaganda/authoritarian laws/mandates.

Jan 23, 2019
"UK nuclear power plans are in tatters" - Article

UK. = Nation of Morons.

Jan 23, 2019
the government spends the lion's share of its incentives pot on large conventional power plants, many of which would operate whether they were subsidised or not
Conservatives like Willie - hate subsidies for renewables - and call renewable advocates "socialists." But hey - offer outrageously expensive monster nukes more subsidies - and that is a wise investment.... Such hypocrisy and hatred of progress is sickening. The cost on renewables will keep coming down - and hopefully at the next election - they will kick Theresa and her band of crooks out.

Jan 23, 2019
V4
UK. = Nation of Morons.
I represent that remark V4. Are you holding up Trumpistan as a better model?

Jan 24, 2019
I represent that remark V4. Are you holding up Trumpistan as a better model?
I don't think it's a contest. At least I hope it's not.

Jan 24, 2019
So basically the Conservatives have managed to screw up their entire power policy and economy in order to buy gas from Russia.

Noted.

Jan 24, 2019
Unbelievable: "A headline "100% renewable" illustrated with a gas tanker"
https://3c1703fe8...a100.jpg
"Fossil Gas Fuels are the new 'Renewable' Energy"
"Here's how a 100% renewable energy future can create jobs and even save the gas industry"
https://phys.org/...gas.html
"100% renewable energy while still preserving a role for the gas industry"
https://theconver...y-110285

100% Renewable = 100% Scam
"Renewables are a scam: they run on GAS."
https://pbs.twimg...jQiw.jpg

There is no doubt that solar and wind are just 'decorative facades' for the gas(fracking) industry in order to displace carbon-free nuclear energy, a crime in the face Climate Change.

Jan 24, 2019
Willie, why do you come here and fill the space with nonsense and copy-and-paste words of others?

Do you have a life?

Your position has already lost, yet you continue to blabber away, like someone who lives here.

Jan 24, 2019
Your position has already lost, yet you continue to blabber away, like someone who lives here.
I guess you didn't get the memo but the Kenyan's heir apparent lost.

Elections have consequences. Do you know who said that?

Jan 24, 2019
Investigations have consequences. I learned that as Deputy Foreperson on a Federal Criminal Grand Jury.

Trump will find out soon.

Meanwhile, this thread regards the insanity of nuclear power.

Jan 24, 2019
Investigations have consequences. I learned that as Deputy Foreperson on a Federal Criminal Grand Jury.
Did you prosecute a bunch of ham sandwiches?

Trump will find out soon.
And when he does there are going to be some high ranking corrupt DOJ personnel and high ranking Democrats finding out how they look in orange jumpsuits.

Jan 24, 2019
Grand juries do not prosecute, they indict.

We indicted crooks. Did your ham sandwich commit a crime?

Jan 24, 2019
...subsidies for renewables - and call renewable advocates "socialists."...
Socialism cannot survive without Capitalism.
Intermittent renewables cannot survive without a fossil-fueled grid.
Both are parasites and cannot survive without a host.
"AOC's Green New Deal Is Trojan Horse for Socialism"
http://www.cnsnew...ocialism
"Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's Green New Deal has nothing to do with saving the planet and going green. It's a government power grab and redistribution of wealth."
https://www.youtu...Q3-s9MC8
https://i2.wp.com...reen.jpg
"Socialism = short term gain (for the unproductive) and long term pain for all."

Interesting to notice how Socialism have used "Unreliables" to fool the innocent public in order to steal taxpayers' money to present almost nothing in terms of reducing emissions while pushing their crazy agenda.

Jan 24, 2019
Willie liar
Unbelievable: "A headline "100% renewable" illustrated with a gas tanker"
Because you just had someone else read the headline for you - and can't actually read the actual article - too many big words for you.
the phase-out of all fossil fuels, and the conversion of the gas industry to synthetic fuels and hydrogen over the coming decades

It was just a study - outlining one possible path to zero carbon.

Jan 25, 2019
...liar...
"The First Thing A Cult Does Is Tell You Everyone Else Is Lying" - James Randi (magician, skeptic, opponent of pseudoscience).
https://pbs.twimg...0bmJ.jpg
"The renewable energy cult is as dishonest and divorced from reality as any religion, and it is a religion, not science."

...the conversion of the gas industry to synthetic fuels and hydrogen...
Solar and wind have poor ERoI; otherwise, they would already be widely used to produce hydrogen and other synfuels(ammonia, methanol, dimethyl, etc.) to help to decarbonize the Transportation Sector.
"Wind and solar cannot be made significantly cheaper by attaching all kinds of things, like storage, hydrogen etc. They only reduce efficiency a lot and increase cost. There is a great solution: NUCLEAR. Compare France to Germany."
...path to zero carbon...
"Advanced Nuclear Can Make Gasoline Out of Water"
http://4thgenerat...f-water/

Jan 25, 2019
oh willie my boy, you do gave a talent for stupid,
Your programmer is either drunk, which would make you a russian denierbot.

Or high, which would make you a saudi denierbot.

Not that it really matters which is pulling your puppet-strings as you prance across the stage.

But really? Waste energy producing carbon fuels to increase the level of pollution?

& the best of all?
Using Nuclear/Fusion power to produce carbon fuels?

To quote "Here's Your Sign!"
Yjough at least you are holding it correctly. With the arrow pointed up at yourself. Right above the MAGA "I'm with stupid".

Jan 25, 2019
The First Thing A Cult Does Is Tell You Everyone Else Is Lying
I don't say everyone else is lying. Just you.
Advanced Nuclear Can Make Gasoline Out of Water
Awesome. And renewables can generate electricity - that can be used by batteries - or turned into hydrogen - and used to run a fuel cell. The big question is cost.
So Willie - why don't you tell us how much that gasoline will cost - and show us a demonstration project to validate your numbers. Electricity generated from solar panels - can be used to charge batteries for an electric car - cost of around 3 cents a mile.
We need numbers Willie - not just childish cut and pastes - with no numbers to support your lies.

Jan 26, 2019
...And renewables can generate electricity - that can be used by batteries - or turned into hydrogen - and used to run a fuel cell...
Maybe hydro, but solar and wind surely not, because they have low ERoI.
Electricity generated from solar panels - can be used to charge batteries for an electric car - cost of around 3 cents a mile.
If it were true, then solar panels would be installed directly on the roof of electric cars.
"Sunlight and wind might be free, but converting them to reliable electricity is definitely not free. Actually, once all factors are included, it is one of the most expensive ways of generating electricity."
...We need numbers...
~1000GW of installed capacity of solar/wind globally, at cost of trillions of dollars and huge ecological impacts, with almost nothing to show in terms of reducing emissions.
"In REAL life, 100% renewables = 80% natural gas & 20% renewables. No wonder natural gas is the fastest growing fuel worldwide."

Jan 26, 2019
Greg Clark, the UK business secretary, has recognised that nuclear power is no longer cost competitive with renewable energy, but don't expect any extra push into the cheaper technology.

That just speaks volumes of the total STUPIDITY of the UK government and apparently the UK politicians in general; -So DESPITE now (at last) even THEY recognising that nuclear power is no longer cost competitive with renewable energy, they STILL don't want us to have the cheaper energy! STUPID!

Jan 26, 2019
...benefit from the falling cost of building offshore wind farms – the price has more than halved in three years.
And no doubt the price of wind farms will keep on falling in the next few years making wind power EVEN MORE cost effective!

Jan 26, 2019
...wind power EVEN MORE cost effective!
Except "batteries not included" neither coal/gas-fired plants nor integration costs.
The expected cost of the 3.2GW of reactors at Hinkley C is €22bn.
Germany's spending ~1.5×€22bn a year on intermittent renewables(bird-choppers/landscape-destroyers) for almost nothing in terms of reducing emissions.
"Germany's renewable energy dreams supported by cheap Russian gas."
https://pbs.twimg...uJqY.jpg
"Mature nuclear which has amortized its construction cost (which even a badly-financed plant like Hinkley C or Vogtle III will do) is the cheapest source of power next to hydropower. It's basically not even a contest."
https://pbs.twimg...WMYa.jpg
"Battery storage needed to convert solar generation equal to a year of Hinkley nuclear generation to baseload: $700 billion, about 28 times the ~$25 billion cost of the Hinkley plant."
http://euanmearns...storage/

Jan 26, 2019
And no doubt the price of wind farms will keep on falling in the next few years...
"LIKE the old sailors say, "The wind is free … but everything else costs money". "
https://pbs.twimg...9oqe.jpg
https://pbs.twimg...0esc.jpg
https://pbs.twimg...eodN.jpg
Wind is free, Coal is cheap, DIESEL is costlier than Coal and Wind, but even so most of ships, including Greenpeace's ships, are powered by marine DIESEL.
https://pbs.twimg...tV6b.jpg
It's in the "Transportation Sector" that can be seen clearly that wind and solar are a joke at replacing fossil fuels.
Intermittent renewables are parasites and cannot survive without a host, i.e. a fossil-fueled grid.

Jan 26, 2019
Liar Willie
Maybe hydro, but solar and wind surely not, because they have low ERoI

Total bullshit Willie - why do you even bother cutting a pasting - when you don't know shit?
Thisplaces wind in a favorable position relative to other forms of powergeneration, and suggests that wind energy could yield signi�canteconomic and social bene�ts relative to other power generationsystems.
from - https://www.resea..._Systems

And solar -
http://rameznaam....f-solar/


Whats the eroi on tar sands oil Willie? If nukes have such a great eroi - how come it costs 12.5 cents Kwh Willie? Where's the cost analysis we keep asking for Willie? Maybe eroi is not the most important metric Willie. Maybe the cost of the electricity should be considered too - don't you think? Liar Willie.

Jan 26, 2019
...wind power EVEN MORE cost effective!
Except "batteries not included"
WillieWard

Spergrid and/or off-the-grid energy storage is the answer; the costs of which are also going down all the time as the technology improves.
And that isn't to mention the potential of the cheap recyclable magnesium-sulfur batteries and/or flow batteries!
So what's your complaint?

Jan 26, 2019
Willie is just a billboard with no feelings. You are arguing with a computer.

Jan 26, 2019
Willie is just a billboard with no feelings.
Yes, I have come to that same conclusion.
He is some kind of soulless 'perpetually-propaganda machine' endlessly vomiting out vast amounts of the same unconvincing warped anti-renewable propaganda crap with messages completely at odds with reality.
It wouldn't surprise me if he is being paid by one of the massive greedy dirty oil companies to do this.
Meanwhile, what most people increasingly want, and rightly so, is the cheaper and less polluting renewables.
If only he had the brains to comprehend that, in the end, all his ranting and raving propaganda will eventually come to nothing; we will one day go all-carbon neutral.


Jan 26, 2019
Now that UK nuclear power plans are in tatters, it's vital to double down and wreck the entire power grid

Jan 26, 2019
...Liar...
Now the RE zealots have to lie like there's no tomorrow and call liar who debunks their lies.
"...suggests that wind energy could yield..."
Interesting how many times the world "COULD" appears in wind/solar propagandists articles.
"Meta-Analysis of Net Energy Return for Wind Power Systems"
"Meta-Analysis" because there is no real proof that wind/solar have good ERoI mainly after ~1000GW of installed-capacity globally with almost nothing to show at reducing emissions and dependence on coal/oil/gas/fracking.
"The day solar power manufacturers power their supply chain and manufacturing facilities exclusively with solar power is the day I will start considering solar power a viable source of energy."

Jan 26, 2019
Now the RE zealots have to lie like there's no tomorrow and call liar who debunks their lies
You don't debunk any lies. That would require evidence - and reasoning - and understanding of the subject matter. You have none of these things.
The day solar power manufacturers power their supply chain and manufacturing facilities exclusively with solar power is the day I will start considering solar power a viable source of energy
You may have to wait a while - but it will happen. Plenty of heavy industry now using renewables. Because we are not at 100% - of course does not mean we will never get to 100%. That would be like saying "we will never power the world on oil" - right after the first wells were drilled. Patience liar Willie. Notice crickets chirping on your costs on nukes - liar Willie.

Jan 26, 2019
It wouldn't surprise me if he is being paid...
No one pays to expose faux-greens' lies and contractions.
"Show me a single nuclear power billionaire. There is no shortage of fossil fuel billionaires. There are also solar and wind subsidy raking billionaires."
...by one of the massive greedy dirty oil companies to do this.
The major beneficiary by the renewable scam is exactly the oil/gas/fracking companies.
...what most people increasingly want, and rightly so, is the cheaper and less polluting renewables...
People are being brainwashed by the fake news mass media(in the pocket of gas(fracking) vested interests) to believe sunshine&breeze unicorn energy is alternative to fossil fuels and that carbon-free nuclear energy is unnecessary while the truth is that intermittent renewables are useless placebos, 'decorative facades' for the fossil fuel industry in order to face their true rival: carbon-free nuclear energy(the only scalable way to stop Climate Change).

Jan 26, 2019
...Plenty of heavy industry now using renewables...
Most of renewables is hydro/geothermal/biomass, solar and wind are connected to coal/gas-powered grids.
solar/wind = 20% solar/wind + 80% coal/oil/gas to compensate intermittencies.
"we will never power the world on oil"
Oil can power big cities and cars, a thing that solar and wind can't
...notice crickets chirping on your costs...
Not including batteries, at 1/3 of penetration into the grid, solar and wind make electricity ~5x costlier, including batteries, solar and wind are ~20x costlier than carbon-free nuclear, nothing more to say.
"If Solar And Wind Are So Cheap, Why Are They Making Electricity So Expensive?"
http://www.forbes...xpensive
http://www.forbes...-reasons

Jan 26, 2019
Oil can power big cities and cars, a thing that solar and wind can't
More lies from liar Willie. Not only can renewables power cars - they can power trucks too. https://www.elect...c-truck/

An electron is an electron - keep trying to tell you that.

If Solar And Wind Are So Cheap, Why Are They Making Electricity So Expensive?
More lies from liar Willie. 2 cents Kwh sure bears 12.5 cents - don't you think liar Willie? The future is here Willie - you just missed it - copy and pasting your lies.

https://www.nextb...our.html

Jan 27, 2019
"eMining's eDumper is the world's largest electric truck"
In order to fool the misinformed public, the RE "snake oil salesmen" mix up hydro with sunshine&breeze energy, renewables with natural gas, installed-capacity with energy produced/emissions avoided, as well energy produced with energy stored(batteries).
Solar/wind are a joke at replacing fossil fuels:
"Huge diesel truck with diesel mounted generator charging electric cars. The hypocrisy"
http://pbs.twimg....ey0D.jpg
http://pbs.twimg....__Yh.jpg
"Wind Power costs at 2 cents per kilowatt hour"
Low-quality product is generally cheap because no one wants to use it, unless forced by mandates/authoritarian laws.
"2 cents per kilowatt hour"? again "batteries not included".
Stating wind/solar is cheap, it's the same as selling an electric car cheaper than a conventional one, hiding the fact: "expensive batteries not included".
http://pbs.twimg....63Yg.jpg

Jan 27, 2019
Willie is just a billboard with no feelings. You are arguing with a computer
George is a psychopath with no feelings. Of course he was fishing for this response because he craves attention.

Is wat trolls do, no?

Hey george I read that alzheimers is caused by gum disease. Maybe you should brush more, no?

Jan 27, 2019
Willie liar
In order to fool the misinformed public
I think that's called projection. YOU are misinformed - and you then project that on to the whole public. Facts demonstrate your blatant program of disinformation. 2 cents Kwh beats out your 12.5 cents a Kwh. Don't want to talk about that - right? The cost curve on renewables continues to head down - and nukes go the opposite direction.
Yep - those lousy electric cars Willie. Except Tesla has the highest customer loyalty of any brand - https://evannex.c...-loyalty

Talk about the wrong side of history.

Jan 27, 2019
I think that's called projection.
It's called delusion/fooling/fallacy/deception.
2 cents Kwh beats out your 12.5 cents a Kwh.
"2 cents Kwh" except "batteries not included" neither coal/gas-fired backup plants nor integration costs.
Including batteries: ~110¢/kWh.
"Batteries Included: Wind + Solar + Batteries = Insanely Expensive Power"
http://stoptheset...e-power/
"Powerful Nonsense: Even With Mythical Mega-Batteries 100% Renewable Energy Remains 100% Fantasy"
http://stoptheset...fantasy/

...Tesla has the highest customer loyalty...
"Tesla's Main Product Isn't Cars, It's Subsidies"
"Tesla received $713 million in U.S. subsidies in Q3, compared to its $312 million profit."
http://realmoney....14769263

Jan 27, 2019
It's called delusion/fooling/fallacy/deception
That too. I just used the term projection as a short hand.
Batteries Included: Wind + Solar + Batteries = Insanely Expensive Power
Or not. Don't let facts interfere with your delusional/fooling/fallacy/deception/senile/stupidity.

https://www.green...vRyeHGSu

Jan 28, 2019
...Don't let facts interfere with your delusional/fooling/fallacy/deception/senile/stupidity...
Facts? The best that you can do is citing propagandist articles ... of a year ago. If it were really true, then there would already be a lot of satisfied buyers proving/attesting "solar-plus-batteries" indeed cheap in practice, and not only gskam, a well-known sociopath maniac compulsive pathological liar. I bet not even you bought these useless placebos yet; please "Eat Your Own Dog Food" instead of believing in your lies like an animal that eats its own vomit/feces.

Jan 28, 2019
The best that you can do is citing propagandist articles ..
But you said you approved of GTM. You know - I really need your approval for the sources I use - cuz you are of course the final authority on what constitutes validity. You know - like how you quote Breitbart, and Daily Mail - and all those other stellar sites. Idiot.

Any way - facts are facts - and you know which way the tide is heading (well maybe I should take that back - you really are that stupid.) So look - corporate purchases of renewable energy doubled in 2018 - https://www.renew...018.html

Just keep yelling at the tide Willie liar - it will come in anyway.

Jan 29, 2019
...facts are facts...
"facts are facts" and you don't have facts, you have factoids mixing up installed-capacity with energy produced, renewables with natural gas, hydro with useless sunshine&breeze placebos, energy produced with energy stored(batteries), (almost nothing in terms of reducing emissions), all in order to deceive the innocent public.

RenewableEnergyWorld? another propagandist/unreliable source.
"ExxonMobil was the first oil major to sign a clean energy PPA for its own operations, purchasing 575 MW of solar and wind in Texas."
Oil/gas companies love to invest in intermittent renewables and hate carbon-free nuclear: their true rival.
Wise words: "If you have interests in the coal / natural gas industry then by all accounts promote solar panels / wind turbines."

Jan 29, 2019
Only, @WillieWart, you forgot the article you're commenting on.

Just sayin'.

Jan 29, 2019
Just sayin'.
"Before proposing 100% RE for the world, FIRST try it at your house. Buy panels & loads of batteries and disconnect from the grid. Start a blog and let us know how it's going, particularly during the dead of winter. Thanks."
Just sayin'.

Jan 29, 2019
Bwahahaha, that's the best you got @WillieWart? How about all your lying? Got anything to say about that?

Just askin'.

Jan 29, 2019
How about all your lying?
You green sociopaths, now that solar and wind have reached a terawatt(1000GW) of installed-capacity globally at cost of trillions of dollars and huge ecological impacts with almost nothing to show in terms of reducing emissions, have no option except to tell everyone else is lying while keeping to lie unashamedly like there's no tomorrow.
"So misleading, these renewablists don't bother to mention that for UK electricity generation, coal has declined mainly because of the increase in natural gas"
"100% renewables" is an environmental nightmare.
https://pbs.twimg...66nO.jpg
"The wind fleet in Scotland is costing the UK consumer billions!!!!"
"Scotland Squanders ₤Billions on Subsidised Wind & Gets Stone Age Power in Return"
https://stopthese...-return/
"UK summer 'wind drought' puts green revolution into reverse"

Jan 29, 2019
coal has declined mainly because of the increase in natural gas
Liar liar pants of fire. - https://www.carbo...nce-1994
You can look at the pretty pictures - chart 4 and 5 show you that in 2009 - gas generated 167 Twh of electricty (44%) - and in 2018 - gas generated 132 Twh - (39%). Wind and solar have gone from 9 Twh (2.5%) up to 72 Twh (21%). Coal dropped from 103 Twh 927%) down to 17 Twh (5%) in the same time period.

see what a big liar you are?????

Jan 30, 2019
Let's take a look at Germany, a country heavily committed with sunshine&breeze unicorn energy, that has ~100GW of installed-capacity of solar/wind enough to replace hard coal or lignite coal but even so they will have to replace coal by natural gas to fool the public to believe Energiewende is a success and the taxpayers' money was well-spent on intermittent renewables(bird-choppers/landscape-destroyers):

"I believe we would be well advised to admit that if we phase out coal and nuclear energy then we have to be honest and tell people that we'll need more natural gas," - Angela Merkel
https://euobserve...y/144021
Germany's antinuclear government has officially gone insane:
"We do not want to import cheap nuclear power from other countries."
https://uk.reuter...CN1PM0GW
https://pbs.twimg...Qw0S.jpg

Jan 30, 2019
Liar liar pants of fire. - https://www.carbo...nce-1994
...see what a big liar you are?????
"The amount of electricity generated in the UK last year fell to its lowest level in a quarter century, Carbon Brief analysis shows."
Intermittent renewables have caused the electricity prices to increase thereby the demand to decrease as well the emissions(mostly thanks to replacement of coal by natural gas), and for sure intermittent renewables should get the credits for making electricity more expensive and less affordable for poor people.
http://pbs.twimg....5qbh.jpg
"Idea of renewables powering UK is an 'appalling delusion' – David MacKay"
http://pbs.twimg....7KQd.jpg
http://www.thegua...d-mackay

The best that the green sociopaths can do now is call "liar" who debunk their lies.

Jan 30, 2019
Intermittent renewables have caused the electricity prices to increase
There are many examples that prove the lie to your assertion. Of course - Hinkley Point is going to cause the Brits electricity rates to go through the roof. Hopefully they will have enough renewables installed by 2025 to soften the blow for the poor suckers.

But anyway - you are just moving the goal posts. The graphs I pointed out to you - simply demonstrated that you are a fat liar - saying stupid things like this
coal has declined mainly because of the increase in natural gas
So once again you are outed as a fat liar - and have no credibility. Liar...

Jan 31, 2019
"Mature nuclear which has amortized its construction cost (which even a badly-financed plant like Hinkley C or Vogtle III will do) is the cheapest source of power next to hydropower. It's basically not even a contest."
https://pbs.twimg...WMYa.jpg

"What would it cost to power the UK for the next 60 years?"
https://pbs.twimg...BYcE.jpg

"Solar and wind need to be replaced twice or more to match current lifetimes of a nuclear plant."

"Wind farm turbines wear sooner than expected, says study"
"...wind farms are wearing out far more rapidly than previously thought, making them more expensive as a result, according to an authoritative new study..."
https://www.teleg...udy.html

"Wind and solar will be viewed as little more than museum artifacts in another 10 years. Simply not economically viable in many places on earth."

Jan 31, 2019
...fat liar - and have no credibility. Liar...
Then just cite a small place (>10,000 inhabitants, off-the-grid ) powered at least 1/3 by wind and solar parasitizing hydro instead of fossil fuels, with affordable electricity prices, with no external big money support with vested interests, not connected to a regional fossil-fueled grid(e.g. Scotland), not taking natural gas/fracking as "renewable"(e.g. Oklahoma).
Not much wind/solar here:
Costa Rica: 78% hydro, 10% geothermal
Iceland: 70% hydro, 30% geothermal
Norway: 99% hydro
Paraguay: 100% hydro
Tajikistan: 100% hydro
Albania: 90% hydro

~1000GW of installed-capacity of wind/solar globally at cost of trillions of dollars and huge ecological impacts and almost nothing to show in terms of reducing emissions and dependence on coal/oil/gas/fracking.
Intermittent renewables are just 'decorative facades' for the fossil fuel industry to face their true rival: carbon-free nuclear energy.

Jan 31, 2019
Mature nuclear ...
Poor Willie Liar - just has to keep moving the goal posts. Sure - nukes that are already built - produce cheap power. But that was then - and now is now. New build power (that is the important metric when deciding what to build TODAY) - is wind and solar - hands down - and the costs keep falling. You really cant compare 12.5 cents Kwh - for the next 35 years - inflation adjusted - with 2 cents Kwh - and FALLING - can you?

Feb 01, 2019
...2 cents Kwh...
"2¢/kWh", the RE zealots have been propagandizing it already for years.

Solar and wind are cheap but have made electricity costlier after including coal/gas-fired backup plants(because batteries are prohibitively expensive) as well integration costs, maintenance, depreciation, etc.

"If Solar and Wind are so cheap, why is the taxpayer subsidising them so heavily and even after all the expensive subsidies we are still paying exorbitant prices for power. It was cheaper before renewables."

"Nuclear is less costly than you think"
https://www.ft.co...61754ec6
"Mature nuclear power plants generate electricity at .. 3.4¢/kWh (2.5p/kWh). A reminder that constructing an identical fleet of reactors on government money is the cheapest way of producing electricity on the planet."
http://www.world-...year-low

Feb 01, 2019
because batteries are prohibitively expensive
Willie Liar just cant keep up.
based on the analysis that concluded that the batteries will be less expensive than the gas plants they will replace
And the costs keep falling - Willie Liar who can't keep up with reality.
https://renewecon...t-69528/

2¢/kWh", the RE zealots have been propagandizing it already for years
Nope - just real world numbers - Willie Liar.

Feb 02, 2019
Bad news for taxpayers who have subsidized the expensive solar/wind scam believing sunshine&breeze would save them from Climate Change.

Major new study finds, "Despite hundreds of billions spent on wind & solar, emissions in electricity sector grew faster than overall emissions.... [Solar-wind] subsidies accelerated CO2 emissions when comparing the electric power sector to other sectors"-2019
http://oecd-nea.o...osts.pdf
http://pbs.twimg....erks.jpg

"Germany provides a cautionary tale for environmental groups... the country's coal consumption has remained nearly unchanged since the turn of the century."
"A Green New Deal must not sabotage climate goals" - Jan 30, 2019
http://thebulleti...te-goals
The #1 source of electricity in Germany during 2018 was coal.
http://uploads.di...0945.jpg

RenewEconomy?

Feb 03, 2019
the country's coal consumption has remained nearly unchanged since the turn of the century.
Yeah - cuz they shut down their nukes first Willie. Why don't you instead look at Britain? Oh right - it would make you a big fat liar. Britain's coal consumption is dropping - now 5% of their power - compared to 36% 6 years ago. https://www.carbo...nce-1994 Oh that's right - you don't know shit about the facts of the subject of energy - just cherry pick bias studies from pro nuclear propaganda bullshit foundations - who are not interested in understanding 12.5 cents Kwh from Hinkley point....

Feb 04, 2019
...Why don't you instead look at Britain...
Britain has replaced coal by gas "greenwashed" by intermittent renewables.

"Why "Green" Energy Is Futile, In One Lesson" - Jan 31, 2019
"...advised customers to turn thermostats down to 60 degrees and avoid using hot water...Why? Because the wind wasn't blowing. Utilities pair natural gas plants with wind farms, in order to burn gas, which can be ramped up and down more quickly than coal, when the wind isn't blowing."
"Which raises the question: since natural gas is reliable, why do we need the wind farms? The answer is, we don't"
https://www.power...sson.php
Costlier electricity bills for nothing in terms reducing emissions and dependence on coal/oil/gas/fracking. Solar and wind only exist to steal taxpayers' money and to please a bunch of psychotics/paranoids/schizophrenics brainwashed by green sociopaths with vested interests.

Feb 04, 2019
Britain has replaced coal by gas
Liar liar pants of fire. In 2009 - 167 Twh of gas. In 2018 - 132 Twh of gas. Coal down to 6%. Wind and solar going from 9 Twh - to 71 Twh in the same time period. You are just a fat liar.

Feb 04, 2019
Willie Ward fucks the British tax payers to the tune of billions of dollars.
What is the reason for so many abandonments of nuclear power projects? Money. Investors are looking down the road and seeing renewables getting less expensive. If it takes 30 years or more to recover the cost of a nuclear plant, what are the odds that it will still be making a profit in 2050? If you said somewhere between zero and none, go to the head of the class
Sure wish all those billions had been put into the smarter option - renewables....https://cleantech...race-it/

Feb 05, 2019
...Liar liar...
... You are just a fat liar...
UK: 42% gas, 21% nuclear, 9% coal, 0.5% oil, 8.9% biofuels, 1.6% wastes, 2.5% hydro, 14% solar&wind(to serve as 'decorative facades' for gas to face its true rival: carbon-free nuclear).
https://www.niauk...ge_1.png

Green sociopaths(maniac compulsive pathological liars) love to tell "half-truths" in order to fool the misinformed public.
"Half truths are worse than lies"
https://pbs.twimg...9i5X.jpg
"A half-truth is even more dangerous than a lie. A lie, you can detect at some stage, but half a truth is sure to mislead you for long."

CleanTechnica again? articles full of "half-truths" written by green sociopaths.
"...renewables getting less expensive..." while causing the electricity prices to skyrocket everywhere except in countries/states with abundant supply of cheap coal/oil/gas/fracking that need to be greenwashed by intermittent renewables, e.g. Oklahoma.

Feb 05, 2019
Liar Willie's numbers are so out of date. What a difference a year makes eh Willie. 2018 - Nukes 19%, Wind 17.4%, Solar 3.8%, gas 39%, coal 5% - https://www.carbo...nce-1994

You just can't keep up liar Willie - too busy trolling the internet for lies that support your pathological hatred of the human race. Pretty disgusting really.

Feb 05, 2019
So Japan is cancelling over 3 GW of coal plants - cuz they are no longer economically viable, at the same time as Tepco announcing 7 GW of wind projects. Which way is the tide going Willie?
The two announcements, only a month apart, tie in with Japan's recent uptick in renewable energy plans and activity, spurred in large part by its attempts to divorce itself from nuclear power
Since then, Japan's nuclear power plants have been shut down or shuttered, and attention has increased dramatically — both politically and popularly — towards renewable energy, specifically offshore wind
Keep howling Willie - maybe you can turn back the tide....
https://cleantech...project/

Feb 06, 2019
2018 - Nukes 19%, Wind 17.4%, Solar 3.8%, gas 39%, coal 5%
Let's see wind+solar=21,2%, the remaining is mostly fossil fuels(44%), the best intermittent renewables will attain is ~30%(1/3) making electricity 5x costlier, including batteries: 20x costlier.

Thanks to expensive renewables, poor families are freezing in the dark: "The amount of electricity generated in the UK last year fell to its lowest level in a quarter century, Carbon Brief analysis shows."
http://www.carbon...nce-1994

Half-truth:
...So Japan is cancelling over 3 GW of coal plants...
Truth: if it isn't coal then it's gas that prevents people from freezing in the dark when wind isn't blowing or sun isn't shining or during prolonged droughts.
...at the same time as Tepco announcing 7 GW of wind projects...
solar/wind = 20% solar/wind + 80% coal/oil/gas to compensate intermittencies

CleanTechnica again? green sociopaths & half-truths

Feb 06, 2019
Meanwhile in Texas, a state heavily committed with intermittent renewables('decorative facades' for fossil fuels):
"Qatar, Exxon Mobil to build $10 bn LNG plant in Texas" - Feb 5, 2019
"Qatar Petroleum and Exxon Mobil announced Tuesday a final decision to build a natural gas export facility in Texas, giving the official green light to a long-discussed project."
https://phys.org/...lng.html
There is no doubt that solar and wind are just 'decorative facades' for the fossil fuel industry to face their true rival: carbon-free nuclear.
solar/wind = 20% solar/wind + 80% coal/oil/gas/fracking to compensate intermittencies

Feb 06, 2019
Let's see wind+solar=21,2%
Which is more than nukes - so what is your point? Considering wind and solar are on the increase, and fossil fuels on the decrease. It does not take a rocket scientist to see which way the tide is going - just liar liar pants on fire Willie Ward who cannot see what is happening in the world - and so is forced to lie.

Truth: if it isn't coal then it's gas that prevents people from freezing
Obviously you did not read the article. Coal plant plans scuttled due to economic reality of falling costs on wind and solar. Renewables to be replacing these coal plants.

CleanTechnica again? green sociopaths & half-truths
Quit projecting Willie - not everyone is a lying shit like you.


Feb 07, 2019
In UK, fossil fuels decreased because demand decreased.
"The amount of electricity generated in the UK last year fell..."

It does not take a rocket scientist to see which way the tide is going towards gas(fracking) "greenwashed" by intermittent renewables.
Natural gas(methane: worse than CO2) has replaced coal and halved the CO2 emissions while intermittent renewables took the credits providing a 'decorative facade' to keep the expansion of the gas(fracking) industry over carbon-free nuclear, a crime in the face of Climate Change.

"...Germany will not reach the goal it set itself for reducing greenhouse gas emissions by 2020. Cars and buildings are to blame, the report said. "
It's exactly in the Transportation Sector that can be seen clearly that solar and wind are a joke at replacing fossil fuels.
Intermittent renewables are parasites and cannot survive without a host, i.e. a fossil fueled grid.
http://dw.com/en/...47395605

Feb 07, 2019
In UK, fossil fuels decreased because demand decreased
But the percentage of generation swung into the direction of renewables. The actual quantity generated by renewables increased.
In 2009 - wind and solar were 2.5% of total - and 9 Twh, in 2019 - they were 21% - and 71 Twh. Shame you can't even read a graph Willie - so you have to resort to lying all the time.
https://www.carbo...nce-1994

Feb 08, 2019
Of course the UK's nuclear industry is in tatters - it can't compete with cheaper renewables. Good synopsis of the global situation here - https://renewecon...s-20636/
both large and small nuclear plants are projected to be unprofitable even in a future where carbon pollution has a high price
The average lifecycle cost of electricity from new nuclear plants is now $151 per megawatt-hour, or 15.1 cents per kilowatt-hour (c/kWh). Meanwhile it is 4.3 c/kWh for utility scale solar and 4.2 c/kWh for wind
since 2010, the cost of wind power has dropped by 66 percent, the cost of solar power has dropped 83 percent, but the cost of nuclear power has increased by more than 50 percent.
The reality is that nuclear power is so uneconomical that existing U.S. nuclear power plants are bleeding cash — and in many places it's now cheaper to build and run new wind or solar farms than to simply run an existing nuke

Feb 10, 2019
You faux-green sociopaths maniac compulsive pathological have only as showcase countries/states powered mainly by cheap coal/oil/gas/fracking "greenwashed" by intermittent renewables. Costa Rica: 78% hydro, 10% geothermal.
"Solar / wind promoters are in bed with coal / natural gas producers. That's why almost everybody opposes nuclear. That is why Germany decided to eliminate nuclear, NOT coal. "
https://pbs.twimg...0hL9.jpg

"Renewables 'advocates' that say wind and solar are cheap are ignorant, in denial, or liars. Any source of power so unreliable it requires redundant generation capable of meeting 100% of demand is obviously VERY expensive. Data exists. Learn from it."

"It's no coincidence that the fastest decarbonization rates occurred in centralized, state-dominated energy systems and have prominently featured nuclear and hydroelectric power."
https://thebreakt...ic-power

Feb 10, 2019
"The Only Green New Deals That Have Ever Worked Were Done With Nuclear, Not Renewables" - Feb 8, 2019
https://www.forbe...ewables/
"Had California and Germany spent on nuclear what they instead spent on renewables, both places would already have 100% clean power." One of the architects of the previous 'Green New Deal' on why it failed -

"Green New Deal Excludes Nuclear And Would Thus Increase Emissions -- Just Like It Did In Vermont" - Feb 7, 2019
"[E]very time anti-nuclear climate campaigners succeed in closing a nuclear plant, whether in California, Germany, or Vermont, the burning of fossil fuels, and carbon emissions, go up."
https://www.forbe...vermont/


Feb 10, 2019
"If Saving The Climate Requires Making Energy So Expensive, Why Is French Electricity So Cheap?" - Feb 5, 2019
"why, if making energy expensive is required to reduce emissions, does France generate less than one-tenth the carbon emissions of Germany at nearly half the cost?"
https://www.forbe...o-cheap/
https://thumbor.f...x675.jpg
"France could have completely decarbonized its electricity sector had it spent $32 billion on new nuclear plants rather than on renewables like solar and wind.""
Trillions of dollars for almost nothing
https://pbs.twimg...qsW9.jpg

Feb 10, 2019
France could have completely decarbonized its electricity sector had it spent $32 billion on new nuclear plants
So why didn't they? I mean - they are THE country with all the experience in nukes. They are the ones who could do it - if anyone could. Maybe it's cuz nukes are too fucking expensive. I mean - it is EDF trying to fuck the British tax payer for 12.5 cents a Kwh - inflation adjusted upwards for the next 35 years - in a world of 4 cents Kwh electricity. But hey - liar liar pants on fire - don't let real facts get in the way of your delusions. Maybe you should actually read the facts. https://renewecon...s-20636/

Feb 11, 2019
Faux-green sociopaths have fought vigorously against carbon-free nuclear to favor coal/oil/gas/fracking "greenwashed" by intermittent renewables, and then blame carbon-free nuclear.
... in a world of 4 cents Kwh electricity...
In a world where "batteries not included" neither coal/gas-fired backup plants nor integration costs.
In a "World of Make Believe" 100% powered by sunshine&breeze unicorn energy.
But in the real world, intermittent renewables have caused the electricity prices to skyrocket everywhere except in countries/states with abundant supply of cheap coal/gas, e.g. Oklahoma.

Facts? from RenewEconomy? articles full of "half-truths" written by green sociopaths?
It it all you have? Lamentable!
"Half truths are worse than lies"
"A half-truth is even more dangerous than a lie. A lie, you can detect at some stage, but half a truth is sure to mislead you for long."
https://pbs.twimg...9i5X.jpg

Feb 11, 2019
In a "World of Make Believe" 100% powered by sunshine&breeze unicorn energy
Yeah - you have no facts - so you just keep repeating stupid lies - no matter how many times they are refuted. Plenty of countries - well on the path to 100% renewables. It is early days Willie - and no matter how many examples you are given - you will just tell more lies. Costs keep going down on renewables - and up on nukes. No wonder France is backing off plans for nukes - and investing in the smarter/cheaper option - they KNOW how much Hinkley point costs - you are still in delusion land.
Half truths are worse than lies
You would know - you are a master of both - liar liar pants on fire.
Building new renewables is now cheaper than just running old coal and nuclear plants
https://thinkprog...350fb95/

Feb 12, 2019
..Plenty of countries - well on the path to 100% renewables..
Not much wind/solar here:
Costa Rica: 78% hydro, 10% geothermal
Iceland: 70% hydro, 30% geothermal
Norway: 99% hydro
Paraguay: 100% hydro
Tajikistan: 100% hydro
Albania: 90% hydro
http://pbs.twimg....DN9_.jpg
..no matter how many examples you are given..
Just give an example of a small place(>10,000 inhabitants, off-the grid) powered at least 1/3 by solar/wind parasitizing hydro instead of coal/oil/gas/fracking, having affordable electricity prices, not backed by any external big money support with vested interests, not connected to a regional fossil-fueled grid.

Cheaper than coal, the RE "snake oil salesmen" say.
"Why cheap electricity doesn't necessarily result in lower bills" - Feb 8, 2019
"The main reason is subsidies for wind and solar construction."
http://www.utilit...s/547320
liar liar
You're.

Feb 12, 2019
Not much wind/solar here
Plenty of wind and solar - liar liar pants of fire. https://www.clima...-energy/

Just because you don't know the facts - does not mean no one knows the facts.

Feb 13, 2019
Plenty of wind and solar - liar liar pants of fire. https://www.clima...-energy/
Places from your link:
Costa Rica: 78% hydro, 10% geothermal
Nicaragua: "25% (hydro & geothermal)"
Scotland: connected to UK fossil-fueled grid
Germany: mostly powered by coal and gas
Uruguay: >60% hydro
Denmark: like Germany mostly powered by coal and gas
China: coal and gas
USA: coal and gas
KENYA: Hydro 30.0%, Fossil Fuels 13.0%, Geothermal, 47.0%

"France spent $33 billion on wind-solar over last 10 years The carbon intensity of its electricity supply INCREASED Why? Because unreliable wind & solar required burning more natural gas Oh — electricity prices rose, too"

"Green New Deal a "Recipe for Mass Suicide," Says Greenpeace Co-Founder"
https://www.youtu...KaBbqecQ

Feb 13, 2019
Intermittent renewables are just Trojan Horses for the fossil fuels, specifically fracked gas, to put carbon-free nuclear out of business, a crime in the face of Climate Change
https://pbs.twimg...g-IT.jpg

"Cañete sees gas as 'a bridge' to reach EU's clean energy goals"
Translation: "we, in the EU are doubling down in our target to become the lapdogs of mother russia. Now praise our wisdom you filthy animals."
https://www.eurac...y-goals/

"German grid stabilization costs Tennet 1 billion euros: paper" - Feb 3, 2019
https://www.reute...CN1PS0FI

Feb 13, 2019
Places from your link
But you said
Not much wind/solar here
And you are a liar - cuz there is a lot of wind and solar there - as proven by my link - showing countries that have a lot of wind and solar. So see Willie - you are just a shitty liar liar pants on fire.

Feb 13, 2019
So Willie liar liar - if your nukes are so wonderful - why does the U.S. nuclear industry have to strong arm the President for massive government supports? Oh right - cuz renewables are cheaper and better - and nuclear around the world - is only viable with massive government bail outs. No wonder the French - THE country with all the nuclear experience - are turning away from nukes - and towards renewables. They can do math Willie - maybe you should take a few courses!!!https://oilprice....sio.html

Feb 14, 2019
...showing countries that have a lot of wind and solar...
I.e. countries having a lot of wind and solar(no more than 40% in the mix) serving as 'decorative facades' for coal/oil/gas/fracking to displace carbon-free nuclear energy.
Cite at least one place(>10,000 inhabitants) powered at least 1/3 by solar and wind parasitizing Hydro instead of fossil fuels, with affordable electricity prices, not connected to a regional fossil-fueled grid.

"Don't be fooled by the 'renewable energy' label. Vast majority of EU 'renewable energy' is hydro -- not wind/solar."
https://pbs.twimg...AknF.jpg

...renewables are cheaper and better...
If it were really true, then wind power(windmills and sails) would haven't been replaced centuries ago by steam engines, it wouldn't be necessary subsidies/tax incentives/massive mass media propaganda/mandates/authoritarian laws to force people to install solar panels(useless placebos) on their homes.

Feb 14, 2019
I.e. countries having a lot of wind and solar(no more than 40% in the mix) serving as 'decorative facades' for coal/oil/gas/fracking to displace carbon-free nuclear energy
Keep lying Willie - it is good to see you exposed. Just one example (UK) proves you a liar. Wind and solar on the increase - coal down to about 5%, and gas on the decrease. So coal/oil/gas/fracking are NOT displacing nuclear - rather wind/solar are displacing coal. You are a liar. And more and more wind and solar in the pipeline. https://cleantech...-decade/
https://www.carbo...nce-1994

Feb 16, 2019
...Just one example (UK)...
Just one example (UK) proves you have nothing to show except countries/states powered by coal/gas "greenwashed" by intermittent renewables.
"There are several known contributory factors to the decline in UK electricity generation and demand since 2005."
"They include product energy efficiency regulations, energy-efficient lighting, environmentally conscious consumers..."
Also poor UK families are consuming less electricity thanks to expensive renewables.

CleanTechnica(green sociopaths)? Again.
Oops! Even CleanTechnica admits solar and wind are a joke at replacing fossil fuels in the Transportation Sector, but of course they fail to admit that solar and wind are cheap because "batteries not included" and are causing the electricity prices to skyrocket everywhere except in places with abundant cheap coal/gas/fracking.
"Why Now Is The Time For Nuclear Cargo Shipping"
https://cleantech...hipping/

Feb 16, 2019
one example (UK) proves you have nothing to show
No it does not. It shows that just one example - proves you to be a liar. You say that wind and solar are 'decorative facades.' i prove this to be a stupid lie. 21% of electricity generation from wind and solar is not decorative facade. Nuclear is 19% - do you call that 'decorative facade?' And look - the largest wind farm in the world is about to go on line in UK - https://cleantech...t-power/ - with a wind farm double that size on the works, and $540 billion of wind in the pipeline - https://cleantech...-decade/

No Willie liar liar - not 'decorative facade' - but a serious energy generation technology - and the price will keep dropping - so your nukes become less and less competitive - against cheaper and cheaper wind and solar. Keep lying - Willie...

Feb 17, 2019
...21% of electricity generation from wind and solar...
21% wind/solar + 79% coal/oil/gas/biomass/hydro. Yes, 'decorative facades'. Wind and solar are parasites and cannot survive without a host, i.e. without reliable sources of energy to parasitize.

"Intermittent sources like all wind and all solar need firm backup to 100% of their capacity. So, if you have to build the firm backup anyway, what do you need wind and solar for? Nothing."

Intermittent renewables(fossil-addicted parasites, good for nothing, bird-choppers/landscape-destroyers) are expensive(economically/ecologically) and unnecessary in the fight against Climate Change.

"The Real Reason They Hate Nuclear Is Because It Means We Don't Need Renewables"
https://www.forbe...ewables/


Feb 17, 2019
Yes, 'decorative facades
You missed out the 19% of nuclear Willie liar. Is nuclear just decorative facade? Note here we are talking about actual generation of power - not installed capacity.
Intermittent sources like all wind and all solar need firm backup to 100% of their capacity
No they don't - that is a lie. On that basis - no country will ever be able to go to 51% wind and solar. It takes time to convert over a global electricity system - but it is happening Willie. Just because we are still using the legacy fossil fuel system today - does not mean we will always be using it. Many countries are in the process of phasing in renewables. We can see today - that wind and solar are not 'decorative facade.' I have given you all the examples you need to prove that is a lie. You just keep lying anyway.

Feb 17, 2019
...no country will ever be able to go to 51% wind and solar...
It isn't a question of time or technology, it's more a question of physics/basic math.
Trying to power a whole country with something that doesn't even work in small-scale is insanity, a waste of taxpayers' money and ecological resources, just to please a bunch of psychotics/paranoids/schizophrenics brainwashed by green sociopaths with vested interests. It is possible to power a whole country only with hydro/geothermal/biomass without solar/wind, but it is almost impossible(at least economically) to power a small region(>10,000 inhabitants, off-the-grid) only with solar/wind without cheap coal/oil/gas/fracking to compensate intermittencies.

"The less you know about math, the more you tend to like "renewables." "
"That's the truth! and the more you know about math, the more you tend to like nuclear."

Feb 17, 2019
It isn't a question of time or technology, it's more a question of physics/basic math
No it is not. There are plenty of countries right now proving that you do not know physics/basic math. Australia will almost certainly be at 50% within 10 years. That is a whole country. As soon as they hit 51%, you are proven to be a liar. https://renewecon...t-48307/
the more you know about math, the more you tend to like nuclear
Yep that is why there is soo much nuclear power in the pipeline! (sarcasm). The Brits obviously don't know math - cuz they are getting suckered for 12.5 cents Kwh - inflation adjusted upwards - for 30 years. And the price of wind and solar keep falling. So Britain has 21% generation of wind/solar - going up - and liar Willie calls it 'decorative facade' - but 19% nuclear - going down - and Willie calls it good math. Pathetic little liar.

Feb 18, 2019
There are plenty of countries right now proving that you do not know physics/basic math.
Australia is mostly powered by coal and gas "greenwashed" by intermittent renewables and has one of most expensive electricity thanks to solar and wind.
In 10 years, most of current installed-capacity of solar/wind will be just a bunch of junkyards that costed hundreds of billions of dollars and huge ecological impacts with almost nothing to show in terms of reducing emissions.
"GHG emissions from Australian energy in the age of the renewables investment boom. PS we banned nuclear in 1998."
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https://pbs.twimg...GsQs.jpg
"It's a universal truth: renewables mean higher costs"
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RenewEconomy? CleanTechnica? Is it all you have? Lamentable!

Feb 18, 2019
Australia is mostly powered by coal and gas
Because that is the legacy system that has been built over the past 100 years. So what? It is changing. See - that is the difference between a denier, and someone who is paying attention. If you are paying attention - you see that the world is changing. Wait and see Willie. How many nukes are in the pipeline for Australia? There is a crap load of wind and solar in the pipeline. And the costs keep falling.
See Willie - not decorative facade - but the future of energy. And we still await your cost curve on nukes - but you know what it would show - don't you?

I love renewEconomy - gives me lots of up to date facts.

https://renewecon...r-73136/

Feb 18, 2019
..Because that is the legacy system that has been built over the past 100 years..
Ancient Civilizations were 100% powered by renewables(windmills, sails, biomass, water wheel) but even so they were replaced steam engines and other fossil-fueled machines.
the world is changing..There is a crap load of wind and solar in the pipeline..
Renewables are scams to steal taxpayers' money and to favor coal/oil/gas industries over carbon-free nuclear:
"Social Democratic Party's Gerhard Schröder*, a former German chancellor, now sits on the boards of Nord Stream [gas pipelines] and Rosneft, Russia's oil giant." - Feb 2019
. * who as Chancellor, extended a 1 billion euro credit guarantee to back the gas pipeline.
http://www.econom...ian-trap
I love renewEconomy - gives me lots of up to date facts.
You love alternative facts.
In the real world, alternative energy isn't alternative, it's facade for coal/gas.

Feb 18, 2019
Ancient Civilizations were 100% powered by renewables
But not by solar panels, or 10 MW wind turbines. Keep up Willie - you don't know shit about the subject.
it's facade for coal/gas
Which is why - I can show you examples - such as UK - in which coal and gas generation is down, and renewables are up. So you are just an out of touch - liar liar pants on fire. And the cost of renewables is headed down - and will keep going down - and nukes are headed up. Which is why there is so much renewable generation in the pipe line - and not so much nukes. So where is that cost curve on nukes Willie liar? You know what it will show us - right?

Feb 18, 2019
Two global energy experts predict that renewables will be the dominant powersource by 2040. One of these companies is BP - a major oil company.
McKinsey projects that renewables will account for more than 50 percent of global power generation by 2035, while BP's forecast puts renewables at just about 30 percent of power in 2040
Mmmmmm - who to believe? Willie ward - who knows nothin about energy - or two global energy expert companies???? Tough choice there!!!https://www.green...eGiy5VHf

Feb 19, 2019
...But not by solar panels, or 10 MW wind turbines...
Your "10 MW" alone is unable to power a small place(off-the-grid), or a ship, without fossil fuels.
... UK - in which coal and gas generation is down, and renewables are up...
Because demand is down due to expensive electricity thanks to intermittent renewables.
Two global energy experts predict that renewables will be the dominant powersource by 2040. One of these companies is BP - a major oil company.
BP(British Petroleum)? No surprise. Intermittent renewables are 'decorative facades' for fossil fuel companies to face their true rival: carbon-free nuclear.
Wise words: "If you have interests in the coal / natural gas industry then by all accounts promote solar panels / wind turbines."
...who to believe?
... two global energy expert companies?
You believe in BP(British Petroleum) of course; you green sociopath, fossil-fuel lobbyist travestied as environmentalist.

Feb 19, 2019
...who to believe?
"Electricity accounts for just 25% of greenhouse gas emissions. We need breakthroughs in five key areas to prevent the worst climate-change scenarios:" - Bill Gates
https://pbs.twimg...npqj.jpg
https://www.youtu...6kx-vTO4
https://www.gates...Chapter3

So where is that cost curve
"If you think renewables are cheap, read this. You need massive grid uprades & new transmission to make it work. The Germans still need 5900kms of transmission. Germany already has the highest electricity costs in Europe. What an expensive mess."
https://reuters.c...8N1SD09B
"There is a simple correlation, the more volatile renewables there are, the more the grids will have to be expanded,"
"Wind Farms Make The Rich Even Richer!"
https://www.youtu...-Yob7ZdU

Feb 19, 2019
Electricity accounts for just 25% of greenhouse gas emissions
So? Should we throw our hands up - and declare defeat? I prefer to encourage the transition of our entire system to low carbon. That means electricity for everything. No more fossil fuels.
Germany already has the highest electricity costs in Europe
But spend about the same as the U.S. on power - https://energytra...d-to-us/
So why do you keep repeating the same garbage - watch others refute your garbage, and then do the same thing over. There are numerous reasons why Germany pays high rates - but the German people overwhelmingly support the energy transition. I guess like BP - the Germans know more than liar liar Willie.

Feb 19, 2019
...But spend about the same as the U.S. on power...
By doing less, the U.S. has doing more at reducing CO2 emissions thanks to natural gas(methane: worse than CO2).
"Thanks to Natural Gas, US CO2 Emissions Lowest Since 1985" - Jul 06, 2018
https://www.realc...310.html

"German power bills are low compared to US average" - May 2015
Oops! You are citing an article dated on "26 May 2015", typical dishonesty of a green sociopath.

Let's see:
- Germany: 0.33
- United Sates: 0.13
"Global electricity prices in 2018, by select country (in U.S. dollars per kilowatt hour)"
https://www.stati...untries/
Shame on you! Green sociopath, maniac compulsive pathological liar.

Feb 19, 2019
You just missed the whole point Willie. Yes - Germans pay more per Kwh - but their average electricity bill is about the same. Here is a more up date article -
In 2018, the monthly energy bill for an average German household consisting of three people with a combined annual consumption of 3,500 kWh is 85.8 euros
Shame you are not able to understand the point being made. That Germans are willing to pay more for their electricity - because they believe in the energy transition. They are adjusting by becoming more efficient.
Thanks to Natural Gas, US CO2 Emissions Lowest Since 1985
If you bothered to read your own propaganda article - you would see that the reduction in C02 is due to more use of gas - and renewables. Maybe you could take a reading class. Liar liar Willie....

Feb 20, 2019
...Germans pay more per Kwh - but their average electricity bill is about the same...
So, just cite a place where the electricity is cheap undoubtedly thanks to intermittent renewables and not thanks to cheap coal/oil/gas/hydro/nuclear.
Germans are willing to pay more for their electricity - because they believe in the energy transition.
"Germans are willing to pay more for their electricity" with almost nothing to show in terms of reducing emissions "because they believe in the energy transition" i.e. they believe in they unicorns.
"The sad truth is that Germany is, and has always been, a nation of superstitious, pseudoscientific, technophobic, eco-romantic mystics, obscurantists, Luddites and treehuggers," the German economist Martin Mohl
"Germans are the biggest users of homeopathy... Germans love astrology…. Anti-vaxx groups are strong... Antisemitism & anti-semitic conspiracy theories are still running rampant."
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Feb 20, 2019
...you would see that the reduction in C02 is due to more use of gas - and renewables...
So, just cite a place where the emissions are being reduced undoubtedly thanks to intermittent renewables and not thanks to fracked gas.

"The one characteristic that all these places have in common is their reliance on hydroelectric dams and/or nuclear power ...That's because countries need power all day and all night, and hydro and nuclear can deliver that constant supply."
https://pbs.twimg...1tl_.jpg
https://poetanden...do-this/
"The ones that went with nuclear and hydro decarbonized. The ones that went with wind and solar failed and keep failing."
"While nuclear and hydro are strongly correlated with decarbonization of energy at aggregated national levels, solar and wind are not."

Feb 20, 2019
So, just cite a place where the electricity is cheap undoubtedly thanks to intermittent renewables
Oklahoma - and the other states in the u.s. that get a significant percentage of their electricity from renewables. Yes - we also have coal and gas - but that is changing. The FACT that we have a high percentage of electricity from renewables - and much more in the pipeline - makes your assertion of 'decorative facade' a big lie.

Feb 20, 2019
The sad truth is that Germany is, and has always been, a nation of superstitious, pseudoscientific, technophobic, eco-romantic mystics, obscurantists, Luddites and treehuggers
Maybe - so what? America has one of the most religious populations in the world too. So what? Germany has the largest economy in Europe - and it is a very strong economy. So you have no point (as usual). The topic is renewable energy - and the people of Germany have attained a very strong economy - and are on a path to 100% renewables. As usual Liar Liar Willie has no point. https://www.indep...406.html

Feb 20, 2019
...Oklahoma... Yes - we also have coal and gas...
It's the only you have: states with abundant supply of cheap coal / gas/fracking "greenwashed" by intermittent renewables.
Which makes the assertion of 'decorative facade' a big inconvenient truth for you.
...Germany has the largest economy in Europe - and it is a very strong economy...
The Germany has became what they are thanks to their coal and not thanks to sunshine&breeze unicorn energy.
"No country ever dragged itself out of agrarian poverty without an Industrial Revolution. And no Industrial Revolution was ever powered by sunshine and breezes."

"Energy Poverty Kills More People Than Coal" - Nov 2018
http://wattsupwit...ombined/
"If "renewables" can impoverish rich countries, imagine what they can do to poor countries."
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"Low energy does not equal prosperity, it equals poverty"

Feb 20, 2019
It's the only you have: states with abundant supply of cheap coal
Maybe you could proof read your posts - they make no sense. There is an edit button you know. But any how - Oklahoma gets 1/3 of it's electricity from the wind. Therefore - the wind is not decorative facade - but a viable energy source. Over time - that percentage will increase - as coal and gas plants will be replaced by wind and solar. That is the trend. Sad liar liar Willie cannot keep up with the facts.

Feb 20, 2019
Sad thing is Willie - that if you read the news - every day you see multiple articles - showing that the balance is tipping if favor of renewables. South Australia could be generating 100% of their power from renewables - within 10 years.
AEMO expects the level of gas generation to fall sharply as the level of renewables approaches the equivalent of 100 per cent of demand for the state – a level it says could be reached in less than 10 years
https://renewecon...d-20185/

Wishing it were not true - does not make it not true - liar liar Willie.

Feb 21, 2019
...Oklahoma gets 1/3 of it's electricity from the wind...
Oklahoma has abundant supply of cheap gas/fracking that needs to be "greenwashed" by intermittent renewables.
~1000GW of installed-capacity globally, and there is no small place(>10,000 inhabitants, off-the-grid) powered at least 1/3 by solar/wind parasitizing Hydro instead of coal/oil/gas/fracking.
Yes, wind and solar are 'decorative facades' for fossil fuels to face their true rival: carbon-free nuclear.

...South Australia could be generating 100% of their power from renewables - within 10 years...
"COULD" but within 10 years, most of current installed-capacity will be just a bunch of junkyards that costed hundreds of billions of dollars with almost nothing to show in terms of reducing emissions.
"GHG emissions from Australian energy in the age of the renewables investment boom. PS we banned nuclear in 1998."
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Feb 21, 2019
Oklahoma has abundant supply of cheap gas/fracking that needs to be "greenwashed" by intermittent renewables
You keep saying the same thing over and over. You can't see the point. Oklahoma - like the rest of the world - has a legacy generation system built on ff - that is destroying our ability to survive on the planet. We are in the process of replacing this system with a better/cheaper one - based on renewable energy. Supplying 1/3 of our power with renewables - proves that Willie is a liar liar - when stating that renewables are 'decorative facade.' Nope - you are stupid. Too stupid to understand the point. Renewables are replacing ff. Just because we still have some ff - does not mean a thing. We have electric cars. They will replace gassers. It just wont happen overnight - idiot.

Feb 22, 2019
We are in the process of replacing this system with a better/cheaper one - based on renewable energy.
Utilities in Oklahoma, and everywhere, should be forced by law to provide a complete solution(solar/wind + storage/batteries) and NOT only intermittent renewables acting as 'decorative facades' for coal/oil/gas/fracking to face nuclear.
Then let's see if the "whole solution" is indeed cheap.

"Battery storage needed to convert solar generation equal to a year of Hinkley nuclear generation to baseload: $700 billion, about 28 times the ~$25 billion cost of the Hinkley plant."
http://euanmearns...-storage
"The cost of wind & solar power: batteries included"
http://euanmearns...included
"The True Costs of Nuclear and Renewables"
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http://4thgenerat...newables

Feb 22, 2019
Utilities in Oklahoma, and everywhere, should be forced by law to provide a complete solution
Why? Are you a socialist? I thought you right wingers believed in free markets. The free market is picking renewables as the bestest/cheapest option. Here's a good read for you - liar liar - https://cleantech...by-2030/
nuclear is much lower carbon per MWh than either coal or gas generation, as well as being free of chemical and particulate pollution. However, wind is still quite a bit lower than nuclear in CO2e per MWh and solar is around the same. Given the speed of deployment per GW of capacity and the much lower price per MWh of wind and solar, nuclear as part of the mix doesn't make a lot of sense in most places

Feb 23, 2019
...The free market is picking renewables as...
"The free market is picking renewables as" 'decorative facades' to keep the expansion of the gas(fracking) industry.

CleanTechnica again? "However, wind is still quite a bit lower than nuclear in CO2e per MWh and solar is around the same."
If solar and wind are so low-carbon, why are intermittent renewables failing miserably at reducing emissions everywhere?
Because : solar/wind = 20% solar/wind + 80% coal/oil/gas/fracking to compensate intermittencies.

"Module manufacturing accounted for over 84% of life cycle emissions from PV power."
https://www.scien...19300133
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"Massive East Coast solar project generates fury from neighbors" - Feb 2019
https://www.foxne...virginia

"The more you know about renewables, the less you like them."

Feb 23, 2019
The free market is picking renewables as" 'decorative facades'
Nope - the free market is doing what the free market fan boys say. It is picking the cheaper better option. That's why plans for nukes - by the country that was a trail blazer in nuclear power - are now being scrapped. Hey - they should know right?
Hornsea One plant, which started delivering power to the grid this month, could help make up for a lack of planned nuclear generation in the U.K., as plans for new reactors have fallen by the wayside
https://www.green...uArub1Ws

Feb 24, 2019
...the free market is doing what the free market fan boys say. It is picking the cheaper better option...
The so-called "free market" is composed mostly by fossil fuels' vested interests. The "Big Money" loves intermittent renewables('decorative facades' for fossil fuels) and hates carbon-free nuclear energy: their true rival.
Otherwise: Not only the "Big Money", but also the "Small Money", small companies, would be investing heavily in sunshine&breeze unicorn energy without any incentive/subsidy/mandate/authoritarian law.

"...Offshore Wind Replacing Nuclear..."
wind = 20% wind + 80% coal/oil/gas/fracking to compensate intermittencies.
"Turbines don't work very well without gearbox oil. This one isn't pale green!"
https://pbs.twimg...uwsg.jpg

"Wind and solar are very inefficient at capturing natural power from the environment. However, wind an solar are very efficient at capturing subsidies from hard pressed taxpayers."

Feb 24, 2019
The so-called "free market" is composed mostly by fossil fuels' vested interests
And despite that - renewables are now the cheapest source of new energy. Pretty amazing progress - don't you think. Which is why there is so much renewable power being built - and nuclear plans are being shelved. Smarter people than you - liar liar Willie - can actually do math.

Feb 24, 2019
...renewables are now the cheapest source of new energy...
"cheapest" but "batteries not included" so it's fossil fuels that keep lights on at night or on cloudy/snowy/windless days. It's why fossil fuels' vested interests love intermittent renewables.
"Carbon-free nuclear produces large amounts of power, 24/7, rain or shine, using a small land footprint and producing virtually no emissions."

"Climate change: The massive CO2 emitter you may not know about": Concrete - Dec 2018
https://www.bbc.c...6455844#
"The dilute nature of water, sunlight & wind means that ~5,000 times more land & 10 - 15 times more concrete, cement, steel & glass, are required than for nuclear"

"Solar panels and wind turbines are just gimmicks, indulgences made possible at a moment in time by cheap coal. Solar panels and wind turbines don't produce enough power to replace themselves and sustain society at any standard of living"

Feb 24, 2019
cheapest" but "batteries not included"
No no - batteries included - already showed you that 1000 times.

Feb 25, 2019
Germany
Green Insanity:
"Germany will rely heavily on neighboring nations in Europe to avert blackouts..." because intermittent renewables are useless placebos at replacing simultaneously coal and gas.
"Merkel's Government Looks Abroad to Keep Germany's Lights On" - Fev 22, 2019
"Germany is shutting plants that generate half its electricity"
"Germany will rely heavily on neighboring nations in Europe to avert blackouts as it weans itself off coal over the next two decades, a senior government official said."
"Europe's biggest consumer of electricity is working to shut power plants fueled by both coal and nuclear energy that account for half of the nation's generation capacity."
https://www.bloom...ights-on

Feb 25, 2019
...No no - batteries included - already showed you that 1000 times...
You showed "1000 times" small experiments, not large-scale, only articles written by green sociopaths such as CleanTechnica, RenewEconomy, etc.
You have been unable to cite at least a small place(>10,000 inhabitants, off-the-grid) powered at last 1/3 by solar/wind parasitizing Hydro instead of fossil fuels, in an economically affordable way, not supported by external big money with vested interests.

You call other liars, but you green sociopath is at least "1000 times" more liar.

Feb 25, 2019
You showed "1000 times" small experiments
Nope - I have showed you grid scale projects. Here is one of the ones I have referenced many times.
https://www.green...9iFIzTD6

You just can't help lying can you?

Mar 01, 2019
You are a shameless liar.
Here's the truth: Colorado is powered mostly by coal and gas.
https://uploads.d...2230.png
https://www.eia.g...O#tabs-4

Mankind don't need expensive placebos, bird-choppers/landscape-destroyers, 'decorative facades' for coal/oil/gas/fracking:
"The question is not whether we need nuclear or not. The question is whether we need wind and solar, and the answer has always been no, we don't need them, and we certainly don't need wind and solar lobbyists insisting that we exclude the only energy source we DO actually need!"
"Why Renewables Can't Save the Planet" -Feb 27, 2019
https://quillette...-planet/
"The problem with nuclear is that it is unpopular, a victim of a 50 year-long concerted effort by fossil fuel, renewable energy, anti-nuclear weapons campaigners, and misanthropic environmentalists to ban the technology"

Mar 01, 2019
Here's the truth: Colorado is powered mostly by coal and gas
So what? I gave you a link to a utility scale solar storage system - that is coming in cheaper than ff. You said I have only shown you "small experiments."
the Comanche coal units will be replaced with a $2.5 billion investment in renewables and battery storage — including of 1,131 megawatts of wind, 707 megawatts of solar PV, and 275 megawatts of battery storage across the state, including in Pueblo. Xcel estimates the transition will save ratepayers between $213 million and $374 million.
You're the pathetic liar Willie. You keep making the same error - asserting that because we are currently in a transition - that we will never complete the transition. You really don't know how to think

Mar 02, 2019
"... will be..." "COULD"
Hundreds of billions of dollars spent, and you green sociopath maniac compulsive pathological liar has nothing to show working satisfactorily in practice even in small-scale.

"...the Comanche coal units will be replaced with a $2.5 billion investment in renewables..."
If by "renewables" you mean "natural gas" then indeed gas(greenwashed by intermittent renewables) replaces coal.
"In REAL life, 100% renewables = 80% natural gas & 20% renewables. No wonder natural gas is the fastest growing fuel worldwide."

The real "transition" is to gas.

Mar 02, 2019
If by "renewables" you mean "natural gas
More lies. I mean wind/solar/storage. Why don't you learn to read. The article simply proves you are a liar. You said
You showed "1000 times" small experiments
You're a liar.

Mar 03, 2019
...I mean wind/solar/storage...
Then show a place(>10,000 inhabitants) already running 100% on "wind/solar/storage" in an economically feasible way entirely off-the-grid without any drop of fossil fuels nor external big money support.

Real world:
"12 EU nations failed to install a single wind turbine in 2018. New UK wind "collapsed". Germany built <50% of 2017. "They will rust in place"."
https://www.cnbc....ine.html
https://mailchi.m...d-energy
"The more you know about renewables, the less you like them. The more you know about nuclear, the more you like it. The only thing holding us back is ignorance, superstition and fear of the unknown."

...More lies...
...you are a liar...
...You're a liar...
Sociopaths maniac compulsive pathological liars love to call other liars. It's why it's so easy to spot them.

Mar 03, 2019
Then show a place...
Why don't you show us those cost curves on nukes Willie - we keep waiting.

Don't worry about EU - Willie Liar - they are rocking along just fine. https://qz.com/11...targets/

between 2004 and 2016, total nuclear power generation in the EU decreased by 17%.


Nuke curve is going down, and renewables is going up. Wonder what that means for the future!!!
https://ec.europa...ect=true

Mar 05, 2019
...Why don't you show us those cost curves...
What should matter is the final costs. Solar and wind are causing the electricity prices to skyrocket everywhere except in states with abundant supply of cheap coal and gas that need to be "greenwashed" by intermittent renewables. While carbon-free nuclear keeps the final prices affordable.

...renewables is going up...
"renewables is going up" together with coal/gas.
"Worldwide, coal consumption for electricity generation is almost growing at the same rate as the electricity consumption (2.8%p.a. versus 3% p.a. between 2000 & 2017). As a result, the share of coal in the power mix has almost remained steady for the past 20 years around 40%"
https://phys.org/...ide.html

Coal consumption is increasing worldwide, as well consumption of fracked gas, because intermittent renewables are just 'decorative facades' for coal/oil/gas/fracking to face their true rival: carbon-free nuclear power.

Mar 05, 2019
What should matter is the final costs.
that is what matters - and that is why all over the world - there are Gigawatts of renewables being installed - and plans for nukes are getting scuttled. The people who know energy - know that without some game changing developments - nukes are dying.

Mar 08, 2019
...all over the world - there are Gigawatts of renewables being installed...
"Gigawatts of renewables being installed" with almost nothing to show in terms of reducing emissions. Intermittent renewables seem only to exist to steal taxpayers' money and to serve as 'decorative facades' for coal/oil/gas/fracking to face their true rival: carbon-free nuclear.

"Emissions alarm in Europe: CO2 Readings Going The Wrong Way" thanks to intermittent renewables, 'decorative facades' for coal/oil/gas/fracking.
http://www.thedri...rong-way


Mar 08, 2019
with almost nothing to show in terms of reducing emissions
Actually lots to show in terms of how much C02 has been avoided. https://cleantech...vidends/

Now - you want to see why the British tax payer has gotten so jaded on the lies of the nuclear industry? https://www.iisd....at-cost/

Mar 10, 2019
CleanTechnica again? You have only propagandist articles written by green sociopaths with vested interests.

While the effectiveness of emission reduction achieved by solar and wind is quite dubious mainly after hundreds of billions of dollars spent. Because most of emission reduction was accomplished by the replacement of coal by natural gas(methane: worse than CO2), decrease on demand thanks to increasing electricity bills due to penetration of intermittent renewables on the grid, etc.
The success of carbon-free nuclear is an undoubtable, it's worth the price in the fight against Climate Change.
"Japanese LNG imports to fall off with nuclear restart" - Mar 4, 2019
https://www.nextb...rts.html
https://m.chron.com/business/energy/article/Japanese-LNG-imports-to-fall-off-with-nuclear-13660852.php
http://www.world-...-restart

Mar 10, 2019
You have only propagandist articles
Stop projecting - propaganda lies are your skill set.
Because most of emission reduction was accomplished by the replacement of coal by natural gas
So your precious nukes are totally worthless in terms of C02 reduction eh? So now it is time to let renewables do the heavy lifting - cuz your precious nukes have had about 70 years - and can only produce 12.5 cents Kwh power, shit loads of radio active waste, and no reduction in C02 (that's from your assertion). The facts tell us they can do it - we just need to get rid of the liars - who want to push nuclear unicorn farts...

Mar 11, 2019
...Stop projecting...
years ago: "100% renewable is possible by 2020",
then now, even with ~1000GW('decorative facades'): "100% renewable is possible by 2040",
then in 2040: "100% renewable is possible by 2100",
then in 2100: "100% renewable is possible by 2300",... quadrillions of dollars spent yet pushing sunshine&breeze unicorn farts, endless scams.

.. shit loads of radio active waste..
"Rare earth metals are used in solar panels and wind turbines-as well as electric cars...there's not enough to meet growing demand."
http://motherboar...e-energy
"..one ton of rare earth minerals produces about one ton of radioactive waste.."
"It's now also recognised by UNSCEAR that wind and solar energy are resulting in significant radiation exposure."

Mar 11, 2019
years ago: "100% renewable is possible by 2020
Well - nukes have been around since 1950's - and renewables are beating the pants of em in terms of new generation. Guess your nuclear unicorn farts really are dinosaurs about to go extinct. Does not help that the nuclear industry tells so many lies - https://www.iisd....at-cost/

Wonder who will have to pay for storage of all that nuclear waste - when we have to shut down all those boon doggle plants - now we realize how expensive they are?????

Mar 14, 2019
...nukes have been around since 1950's...
"The first solar powered car was built in 1955. By 1982, just 27 years later, the first solar car had crossed Australia. They are still having competitions to drive solar cars around and across Australia. Typically carrying a single person. Compare nuclear submarines. The first idea for these was in 1939. In 1951 the first one was begun. By 1960 the first one had circumnavigated the planet underwater with a crew of 170. It's amazing how solar power can have such a long and stunning record of mediocrity and failure and still find advocates!"
http://pbs.twimg....HCiM.jpg
Solar and wind have been subsidized for decades with almost nothing to show at reducing emissions.

Solar and wind don't need to pay for storage of all their waste(arsenides and other chemical carcinogens that never lose their toxicity with time), it is simply dumped directly into environment with full support of pseudo-environmentalists.

Mar 14, 2019
The first solar powered car was built in 1955
And if you followed the science - which you obviously don't - you would know that the cost of the technology has dropped dramatically since that time.
In 1977, during the early days of solar technology, solar cost a whopping $77 per watt. Solar modules can now cost as little as $0.35 per watt
So - I can show you a cost cure on solar - and a rational for why it is the better option over nuclear unicorn farts - that are only going up in price. Where is your cost curve on nukes? Then maybe we can understand why renewables are kicking nukes ass.

Mar 15, 2019
...And if you followed the science...
"If energy policy were based on reason and engineering, 97% of the solar panels / wind turbines out there wouldn't even exist."
Because they are ineffective, even in small-scale, at replacing coal/oil/gas.
"Huge diesel truck with diesel mounted generator charging electric cars. The hypocrisy"
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http://pbs.twimg....__Yh.jpg
http://pbs.twimg....FL8v.jpg
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COP 23 (Bonn, Germany) - Electric cars recharged with diesel-generators instead of sunshine&breeze:
http://pbs.twimg....tXKU.jpg
http://pbs.twimg....rVla.jpg

"The less you know about math, the more you tend to like "renewables." "
"That's the truth! and the more you know about math, the more you tend to like nuclear."

Mar 15, 2019
That's the truth! and the more you know about math, the more you tend to like nuclear
Which is why only 15% of countries in the world have a nuke. Cuz - drummmmm rollll
2016 to now, most people realize that nuclear is still too expensive, too slow to build, and too expensive, and that wind and solar are radically cheaper and faster to build. And that wind and solar can be built in any country in the world, unlike nuclear.

https://cleantech...-fading/

Mar 16, 2019
...Which is why only 15% of countries in the world have a nuke...
Because faux-green organizations(in the pocket of vested interests) have fought vigorously against carbon-free nuclear energy to favor coal/oil/gas/fracking "greenwashed" by intermittent renewables.
...wind and solar are radically cheaper...
I.e. "wind and solar are radically" SUBSIDIZED, causing the electricity prices to skyrocket everywhere except in states with abundant supply of cheap coal and fracked gas, e.g. Oklahoma.

"Why cheap electricity doesn't necessarily result in lower bills" - Feb 2019
"The main reason is subsidies for wind and solar construction."
https://www.utili.../547320/
https://burnmorec...r-bills/

...wind and solar can be built in any country in the world...
So, why is necessary to force/deceive people to build them?

Mar 16, 2019
Because faux-green organizations(in the pocket of vested interests) have fought vigorously against carbon-free nuclear energy
Ahhhh - poor little nuclear energy industry - they are so beaten up by the big bad environmentalists.(sarcasm). But if nukes were sooooo superior - surely the nuclear industry could make their case - and save the world with cheap nuclear power (more sarcasm). Oh right - Hinkley point costs 12.5 cents Kwh (wholesale). In other words - nukes are a big con to suck up your tax money - and they are never going to stop.
countries around the world realized it was too expensive, too slow to build, too inflexible
https://cleantech...-fading/
But hey stupid tax payers - can we have some more subsidies - https://www.forbe...4f47b2ca
The push now is for the industry to receive special subsidies

Mar 17, 2019
...a big con to suck up your tax money...
...But hey stupid tax payers - can we have some more subsidies...
In general, fossil fuels are highly TAXED.
In electricity production, they are slightly subsidized to prevent poor families from freezing in the dark.
Solar & wind are highly SUBSIDIZED even though they don't prevent poor children from freezing to death, mainly during the Winter.
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....(sarcasm)...
...(more sarcasm)...
"Nuclear opponents routinely claim that they have little to do with nuclear's high costs and lack of success. This article is one more example of how and why that is clearly not true."
https://www.marke...ing-rule

Mar 17, 2019
Solar & wind are highly SUBSIDIZED
And the subsidies are coming down - as the cost of renewables comes down.
A 2016 IMF working paper (not representing the views of the IMF) estimated that global fossil fuel subsidies were $5.3 trillion in 2015, which represents 6.5% of global GDP
Oooops - Willie is telling lies again...
Coal and nuclear are now more expensive than alternatives like natural gas, wind energy
Which is why the coal and nuke industry are begging for big subsidies - cuz they can't compete with cheaper renewables. Keep up there Willie liar.
https://www.energ...r-plants

Mar 19, 2019
...alternatives like natural gas, wind energy...
Interesting to notice how intermittent renewables are strongly linked to natural gas(fracking).
...alternatives like natural gas...
Indeed, natural gas(methane: worse than CO2) is "alternative" to coal, while intermittent renewables are just 'decorative facades' for coal and/or gas.
"Read more about the symbiotic relationship of natural gas and oil and renewable energy in @washingtonpost:"
http://www.washin...issions/
"American Petroleum Institute - the main lobby group for oil and gas industry - makes it abundantly clear that they partner with renewables. RE provides green cover; oil & gas provide most of power & take home most of revenue."

"Renewables are a scam: they run on GAS."
"In REAL life, 100% renewables = 80% natural gas & 20% renewables. No wonder natural gas is the fastest growing fuel worldwide."


Mar 19, 2019
Interesting to notice how intermittent renewables are strongly linked to natural gas
Yep - cuz the first step is to close the coal plants - and the next step is to go after the gas. That is why you see in UK - coal, nukes, and gas go down - while renewables go up. And the cost keeps falling - so clearly that trend will accelerate. Shame you can't keep up Willie.
https://www.carbo...nce-1994

Mar 20, 2019
... in UK - coal, nukes, and gas go down - while renewables go up...
https://www.carbo...nce-1994
In UK, the demand has decreased because electricity prices have increased thanks to penetration of intermittent renewables on the grid.
From your article:
"UK electricity demand has fallen significantly since 2005..."
Other factor than renewables accounted for 78% of emission reduction:
- 33% due to gas;
- 12% reduced stationary fuel consumption;
- 18% reduced electricity consumption;
- 15% vehicle efficiency.

...That is why you see in UK...
Hilarious! You have only as showcase countries/states mostly powered by coal/oil/gas/fracking "greenwashed" by intermittent renewables.
"More Wind and Solar Power Perversely Locks In Fossil Fuel Generation"
http://reason.com...nd-solar
"Skip renewables for zero-carbon electricity and go directly to nuclear"

Mar 21, 2019
electricity prices have increased thanks to penetration of intermittent renewables on the grid.
No Willie - they have increased due to outrageous cost of nukes. 12.5 cents a Kwh is pretty outrageous - don't you think Willie? And in the real world
as the installations of rooftop solar and large scale renewables grows, the output of fossil fuels reduces – initially this hit brown coal, but more recently it has impacted gas generation because of its high cost
Drip drip drip Willie liar - the future is now.....

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