Route 66 becoming green with charging stations, solar panels

July 15, 2016 by Russell Contreras
In this Wednesday, July 13, 2016 photo, a charging station is shown at the Sandia Peak Inn along Albuquerque's Route 66, in N.M. Route 66, a highway made famous for attracting gas-guzzling Chevrolet Bel Airs traveling from Chicago to Los Angeles, is seeing a growing number of electric car charging stations along the 2,500-mile path, and some states are even pushing for solar panels and electric buses. (AP Photo/Russell Contreras)

Route 66, the historic U.S. highway made famous for attracting gas-guzzling Chevrolet Bel Airs and 1957 Cadillacs traveling from Chicago to Los Angeles, is turning green.

The Mother Road has seen in recent months a growing number of electric car charging stations along the 2,500-mile path, and some states even are pushing for solar panels and electric buses.

In Illinois, where Route 66 begins, the state has installed a network of electric vehicle charging station from Lake Michigan to the Mississippi River. BMW, Mitsubishi, and Nissan are supporting the $1 million effort with technical help from the University of California at Davis. Officials say it the project will cover eight cities, and each site will have at least one fast-charging station.

"This infrastructure has the clear potential to save drivers money while delivering environmental benefits to the state and the nation," Gustavo Collantes, with the UC Davis Policy Institute and lead of the Zero Emission MAP initiative, said at the time of the project's announcement.

Earlier this year, Missouri's highway department announced it was eying a project to cover a portion of its Route 66 with road-ready solar panels. Under the experiment, roadways would be embedded with solar panels to provide energy to nearby rest stops.

The electronics of the panels would be inside glass-covered, hexagonal sections weighing about 70 pounds each. Solar Roadways, an Idaho-based company developing solar panels, said the formulated tempered glass would support the weight of semi-trucks and has a traction surface like asphalt.

Solar Roadways also said this month it was in talks with a Ramada hotel in Kingman, Arizona along Route 66 about placing solar panels in a parking lot.

This Wednesday, July 13, 2016 photo shows the Sandia Peak Inn in Albuquerque, N.M., one of many motels along the historic Route 66 installing charging stations for electric cars. Route 66, a highway made famous for attracting gas-guzzling Chevrolet Bel Airs traveling from Chicago to Los Angeles, is seeing a growing number of electric car charging stations along the 2,500-mile path, and some states even are pushing for solar panels and electric buses. (AP Photo/Russell Contreras)

The hotel isn't the one trying to get in the action.

Bella Roma Bed & Breakfast innkeeper Laura Ferrary said she installed a Tesla supercharger at her Albuquerque spot after seeing an offer from Tesla seeking motel charging station. She also anticipates more environmentally-conscience travelers in the future.

"It's just something I thought would be perfect for us since we like to be eco-friendly and those who drive Tesla cars are high-end travelers," Ferrary said.

In the six months her upscale bed & breakfast has had the charger, it's been used only twice, she said. "But I bet that changes soon," she said.

This week, the city of Albuquerque announced it would purchase of fleet of 60-foot articulated battery-electric transit buses for a planned rapid transit project along Albuquerque's Route 66 in the Nob Hill neighborhood. That project has drawn strong opposition from some business owners who feel it will disrupt the character the area and the construction would hurt businesses.

However, Albuquerque Mayor Richard Berry said the city would be better off. "The selection of electric buses makes the (transit) project an even more sustainable project for Albuquerque's future," Berry said.

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carbon_unit
1.4 / 5 (21) Jul 15, 2016
Can't believe these government entities fell for the Solar Roadways ripoff. Don't they have anyone who can recognize the impraticality of the design? Why put solar arrays under a parking lot? Put them over it to provide shade and power without the stress of cars driving on it and also blocking the sun. I'm sure covered parking would be very popular in AZ in the summer! Oh well, I guess someone has to be the one to try this and fail. (I'd be delighted it if worked.)
carbon_unit
1.4 / 5 (20) Jul 15, 2016
The problem in Albuquerque seems to be not the electric aspect of the buses, but rather expense and putting in dedicated bus lanes and stations, etc. Poor reporting...
tblakely1357
2.5 / 5 (8) Jul 16, 2016
Electric powered cars are superior to fossil fuel cars in almost every capacity (the motors are far simpler, easier to produce and much cheaper). The only issue is current battery technology. Electric cars will stay a niche vehicle until they can make inexpensive batteries that recharge quickly, have sufficient range (two to three hundred miles) and a long lifespan.
gkam
1.3 / 5 (16) Jul 17, 2016
tblakely may be unaware we are almost there.
gkam
1.3 / 5 (16) Jul 17, 2016
carbon unit, this will not be the first one. They already have experience.
Captain Stumpy
4.3 / 5 (18) Jul 17, 2016
Can't believe these government entities fell for the Solar Roadways ripoff.
@carbon_unit
ok, i am with you 100% on this one... i mean... WTF?

a little logic goes a long way to stop con-men
thought you would like these vid's debunking the idea @carbon
https://www.youtu...60SoHdE6

https://www.youtu...60SoHdE6

.

Electric cars will stay a niche vehicle until they can make inexpensive batteries that recharge quickly, have sufficient range (two to three hundred miles) and a long lifespan
@tblake
and they expand the line to include off-road 4WD as well as heavy duty pulling vehicles for rural markets
gkam
1.5 / 5 (17) Jul 17, 2016
Kingman only has Tesla superfast chargers, according to chargepoint. No standard level 2 stations yet at all.

And manufacturers do not need to include heavy-duty off-road electric vehicles to make and sell electric automobiles. The ideal market is for town and commuting, where they can take advantage of stops and starts and hills. Regeneration not only saves energy, it saves going from gas-to-brake constantly.

The low-end torque will be very attractive to many, but I am not sure of the size of the initial market.
Captain Stumpy
4.1 / 5 (18) Jul 17, 2016
@STOLEN VALOR liar-kam
manufacturers do not need to include heavy-duty off-road electric vehicles to make and sell electric automobiles
no one says they must be included, ya idiot

but considering your dislike of diesel and ICE (even though you can't actually prove you have an EV), it would be a good idea to be *able* to replace most of the SUV/Truck market with an EV alternative that will function equally or better than an ICE, don't ya think?

gkam
1.4 / 5 (17) Jul 17, 2016
To the surprise of many, the original successful "off-road" vehicles were diesel-electric earthmovers by Le Tourneau.
gkam
1.3 / 5 (15) Jul 17, 2016
We could have had electric postal vehicles in the late 1980s had not Reagan put a crook as Postmaster General. He was finally ousted, but the damage had already been done.
Captain Stumpy
4.1 / 5 (18) Jul 17, 2016
@STOLEN VALOR liar-kam
the original successful "off-road" vehicles were diesel-electric earthmovers
1- it's still a diesel ICE that runs the product

2- so you not read what you post?

3- troll comment and ignorance isn't justification for your argument

4- what is your point?
had not Reagan
transference and blaming others isn't helpful in your mental condition (especially as it's anger management issues)... it's an exacerbating condition that you need to address
gkam
1.5 / 5 (17) Jul 17, 2016
This thread regards solar-powered and other charge stations on Route 66. Do you have a need for an EV charge station? No?

Some of these will be updated eventually to induction chargers.
gkam
1.4 / 5 (17) Jul 17, 2016
If you are interested in the Areas of Enlightenment, i.e., places with EV chargers, go to chargepoint.com.

Not many in Ark.
Captain Stumpy
4.4 / 5 (16) Jul 17, 2016
@STOLEN VALOR liar-kam
This thread regards
responding to a post is topical, especially when it is wrong, lacks information, or it has no validation
Do you have a need for an EV charge station?
yes, i do, because i have family that drives an EV - but apparently you do NOT have a need, per the California DMV
as indicated by research done by IRA, you don't have an EV per the state of CA

so what is your interest other than to brag about something you can't prove you have?
If you are interested in the Areas of Enlightenment
if you are interested in learning to read, see: http://www.readingbear.org/

Not many in Ark
1- its not "Ark"... Ark is a big wooden boat fable for religious idiots

2- not many "public"

3- you violated the law by releasing information that was specifically designated as private and covered under HIPA and other privacy laws

you call yourself a "real" man? you're a coward sniping from anonymity b/c you feel safe with distance
gkam
1.2 / 5 (17) Jul 17, 2016
Yeah, I am a real man, George Kamburoff.

Who are you?

You are the one hiding from us, too scared to take responsibility for your hateful words.

My EV now has 8104 miles on it. That means we have saved about 400 gallons of gasoline. If your buddy cannot find our little blue e-Golf, you had better look for yourself.
Captain Stumpy
4.1 / 5 (18) Jul 18, 2016
@STOLEN VALOR liar-kam
Who are you?
the man who proved, with your own DD214 and paperwork you sent to me to be posted publicly, that you're a chronic liar and you are claiming STOLEN VALOR

also the man who proved, along with Ira, that your MS is from a diploma mill where you paid for it, not earned it... because you can't produce a baccalaureate to prove education
too scared to take responsibility
1- i sent you my address and a google freakin map... you're the one too stupid to know how to read! -hell , not only am i not anonymous (ask otto) but you also know who i am, you idiot! OOps... that is George Kamburoff the Dumbass (proof above)
LOL

2- you can always litigate as you threatened (and continue to threaten) - i welcome the chance to see you in court!
My EV
the one CALI DMV can't find because it doesn't know about it?
is it a stealth EV?
or is it just invisible? ... like your roof panels?

FOAD
gkam
1 / 5 (16) Jul 18, 2016
I am beginning to like that "stolen val9or" thing. It lets me bring up my real service, you know the one where the Commander insisted I get promoted asap? The reviews where the Avionics Officer used the phrase "perfect airman"? You have the copies.

Have you considered getting the help you need? I promised to tell your local Vet Center for you, but you still hide, even after you say you sent me the information to help you. You did not. So, send it again. Remember how to do it?

You certainly resent those of us who do the right thing.
gkam
1 / 5 (16) Jul 18, 2016
The center of the country seems to still be in the Old Days. Few EV chargers, few PV systems, still driven by emotion and religion, still hunkered down with the lord.

The greening of Route 66 is a start, but not the best one. Long distances are not practical yet. It will take another five years or so. Start in the cities.
gkam
Jul 18, 2016
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Lord_jag
3.7 / 5 (6) Jul 18, 2016
Captain Stumpy
FOAD


What does FOAD mean?
Captain Stumpy
4.3 / 5 (16) Jul 19, 2016
Captain Stumpy
FOAD


What does FOAD mean?
@Lord_jag
it is always best to check references or google it/look it up so you don't get conned by someone like liar-kam, who is always willing to attempt some blatant lie for the sake of his own aggrandizement...

i can give you a typical site that will cover things like "text speech" or various shorthand often found on the web:
http://www.urbandictionary.com

you can usually just type in or copy/paste the inquiry into Google or other search engines and they will give you the typical definitions

not being evasive so much as helping you learn how to counter idiots like the above liar

always, always validate a claim. that is how we learned liar-kam lied about his MS and how we found out he got it from a diploma mill

and how we learned the california DMV doesn't have his EV on file

and how we learned he doesn't have solar panels (google maps says - he lied)

Pooua
3.3 / 5 (6) Jul 19, 2016
I used to live in Albuquerque (graduated from high school and one college there), so it's interesting to me to see what changes they are making. You can tell that electric charging stations are novelties when they get news articles written about them.

Solar Roadways is a bad idea. It's like someone said, "Where is the worst place that we could put a solar panel?" "Now, how can we make it as expensive and impractical as possible?"
gkam
1 / 5 (15) Jul 19, 2016
Yeah, that is your feeling never having seen one. But others have already done it for bike trails.

And Grumpy is simply wrong, twisted by his hate for me. He can't see my panels on Google because google's last image is from 10/2015, and my panels went up in Feb 2016. But that won't stop him from the personal attacks. His emotions are out of control.

Notice how he dodged the meaning of his favorite insult, notice how he did not tell you what he wishes for others?

Now, back to the issue at hand:

Have you gone to chargepoint.com? How about plugshare.com? There are other outfits as well. The power companies are going to add hundreds more here. But most of your charging will be at home, overnight, usually.
Captain Stumpy
4.7 / 5 (15) Jul 19, 2016
Solar Roadways is a bad idea. It's like someone said, "Where is the worst place that we could put a solar panel?" "Now, how can we make it as expensive and impractical as possible?"
@Pooua
well said! likely this is political motivated, because any competent scientists would be saying "WTF??"

... did you by any chance watch these youtube video's debunking them?
https://www.youtu...60SoHdE6

https://www.youtu...60SoHdE6

what i find comical about solar roadways:
it would require restructuring the grid, which would be insanely expensive and far more expansive than our current system

solar is DC (inverters, etc)

it can't work if something is parked on/over it... so much for logic on that one! LMFAO

rain/snow make them not only "not work" but also cause erosion that will affect the road

where does the energy go or get stored?

LOL
gkam
1.1 / 5 (15) Jul 19, 2016
So many questions. Sounds like Eikka, where nothing can work.

Do you really think you are the first ones to ask those questions? Do you think they did not figure all that out before doing it? Do you think this is the first installation?

Some folk should not try to think, and just leave it to the professionals in those fields.

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