Vettel says Formula E 'not the future'

A Renault Spark SRT-01E FIA Formula E race car is presented at the booth of Michelin during the media day of the IAA (Internatio
A Renault Spark SRT-01E FIA Formula E race car is presented at the booth of Michelin during the media day of the IAA (Internationale Automobil Ausstellung) international motor show in Frankfurt am Main, western Germany, on September 10, 2013.

Formula One dominator Sebastian Vettel gave short shrift Saturday to the new, electric Formula E series, saying it would be far too quiet and was "not the future".

Five teams have already been signed for the planned field of 10 to in city centres around the world, starting in Beijing next September.

"I don't like it at all, I think it's not the future," Vettel said at the Indian Grand Prix, where victory on Sunday will give him a fourth consecutive drivers title.

"I think people come here to feel Formula One and there is not much to feel when a car goes by and you don't even hear anything but the wind.

"Maybe I am very old-fashioned, but I think Formula One needs to scream, needs to be loud and there needs to be vibration."

Vettel said he will never forget the first time he went to Formula One in 1992 to watch a free practice at Hockenheim.

"Even though it was wet and the cars did not go out, once they did their installation laps it was a great feeling just to be there and hear them coming through the forest," he said.

However, Mercedes' Nico Rosberg, who will start Sunday's race on the front row alongside pole-sitter Vettel, was more positive about the eco-friendly initiative.

"It's an interesting thing for sure, something new and I know there is a lot of interest," Rosberg said. "It's planned to be in cities (rather than normal circuits), so it's bringing the race to the people, not the people to the race.

"It's a bit of the future, so it will be interesting to see how it goes. We need to wait and see."

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Oct 26, 2013
If Vettel wasn't such an arse, he wouldn't be driving for Red Bull. So venture a wild guess at what his comment is worth.

Oct 26, 2013
Coal powered F1 cars are not the future?

Good. I'm certain the Stig agrees.

Oct 26, 2013
Wow, a F-1 post on Physorg,

I'm afraid that I disagree with Vettel on this one(and consequently agree with Rosberg), this E car could prove interesting indeed.

The engine formula has become a problem. The turbo era, well, I don't know why they went normally aspirated. I actually kind of liked it and still like it for the drivability issue alone. Unfortunately, F-1 put a rev limiter on the engines. I'm thinking they did so just for the money issues. But, I've actually been thinking just the last few months that the rev limiter might be more practical than even I had thought(and I hate technology restrictions in f-1).

If I recall correctly, the BMW engines, when Montoya was driving for Williams, were the highest reving engines ever. I recall the BMW guys were noting some thermodynamic cycles problems with the engines. The Engines have to be started and warmed up in a certain way, or the engine is going burnup. I thought about this just a few months ago, that . . . more,

Oct 26, 2013
. . . that if the Engine engineer guys were allowed to continue to explore exotic high rev engines, the engines would become a bomb!

On the other hand, the turbo's can't be considered anything less. I don't know if the new turbo era engines will have the same thousand horsepower engines they were reaching in the 1980s, but the same consideration comes to mind. If the engine guys are allowed to explore just how much horsepower they can get out of the turbo engines, the engine would essentially become a controlled bomb, and the higher the horsepower, the more likely it will go off.

So, seeing this article and learning of this new E-series f-1 car actually appeals to some of the problems the engine guys are going to have.

Oct 27, 2013
Peak oil.

Oct 27, 2013
There's no reason why these cars couldn't be fitted with (individual) sound generators. Think about all the races in SciFi/CGI movies: Each car/pod/sled/whatever has a highly individual sound design and it's fun to listen to them an their 'personalities'.

I'll certainly watch the E series (along with continuing to watch F1). The acceleration alone is insane - and that means split second reactions on curve exit determine whether someone can overtake on the straights. And as it's a new series driver skill and innovative use of the components will lead to large variability between the teams. Should make for exciting races.

Oct 27, 2013
Noise is inefficiency. Quiet is the future. And electric has the capability of being better, faster and quicker than any gas, fuel or alcohol powered engine eventually.

Oct 27, 2013
F1 has been in the leading edge of making better engines. Now it is the time to have this innovation force work for electric propulsion. I also think that ICE has very little to gain, partly because of the restrictions and quiet electric is the future of mobility.

Oct 28, 2013
if you want a green future this should be the way
F1 is clearly for wimps

Oct 29, 2013
This problem with electric populsion in cars of all kinds is the same. They are too quiert and dangerous to people who expect to hear the car approaching. The answer is simple, fit them with artificial engine-sound makers as well as sounds from the tires etc.

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