Scientists to announce "Doomsday Clock" time

January 26, 2016
Scientists to announce "Doomsday Clock" time
In this Jan. 22, 2015, file photo, Climate scientist Richard Somerville, member, Science and Security Board, Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, right, unveils the new "Doomsday Clock," accompanied by Sivan Kartha, member, Science and Security Board, Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists and senior scientists at the Stockholm Environmental Institute, right. Scientists behind a "Doomsday Clock" that measures the likelihood of a global cataclysm are set to announce Tuesday Jan. 26, 2016, whether civilization is any closer or farther from disaster. (AP Photo/Cliff Owen, File)

Scientists behind a "Doomsday Clock" that measures the likelihood of a global cataclysm are set to announce Tuesday whether civilization is any closer or farther from disaster.

The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists is expected to unveil the minute hand on the metaphorical in Washington, D.C. The clock reflects how vulnerable the world is to catastrophe from , climate change and new technologies, according to the bulletin.

California Gov. Jerry Brown will join former U.S. Secretary of State George Shultz and former U.S. Secretary of Defense William Perry for a discussion at Stanford University after the unveiling.

The behind the bulletin adjusted the clock from five minutes-to-midnight to three minutes-to-midnight last year, citing , modernization of nuclear weapons and outsized nuclear weapons arsenals as "extraordinary and undeniable threats to the continued existence of humanity."

The minute hand is assessed each year. It has also previously stayed the same and been adjusted in the opposite direction. Most recently in 2010, bulletin scientists cited nuclear talks between the U.S. and Russia and agreement to limit a rise in global temperature for a change from five minutes-to-midnight to six minutes-to-midnight.

This year's clock is expected to consider tensions between the United States and Russia and the recent North Korean nuclear test.

The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists was founded in 1945 by University of Chicago scientists who helped develop the first atomic weapons. The clock was created two years later, with midnight symbolizing apocalypse.

The decision to move or leave the clock alone is made by the bulletin's science and security board, which includes physicists and environmental scientists from around the world, in consultation with the bulletin's Board of Sponsors, which includes 17 Nobel laureates.

The closest the clock has come to midnight was two minutes away in 1953, when the Soviet Union tested a hydrogen bomb that followed a U.S. hydrogen bomb test.

Key years in "Doomsday Clock" time

The "Doomsday Clock" by the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists measures the likelihood of a global cataclysm by reflecting how vulnerable the world is to catastrophe from nuclear weapons, climate change and new technologies. Midnight represents the apocalypse. Here are some key dates in the clock's nearly 70-year history:

1953—The clock comes the closest it ever has to midnight—just two minutes away—after the U.S. and Soviet Union test hydrogen bombs. "The hands of the Clock of Doom have moved again," the Bulletin announces. "Only a few more swings of the pendulum, and, from Moscow to Chicago, atomic explosions will strike midnight for Western civilization."

1981—The clock moves to four minutes-to-midnight after the Soviet Union invades Afghanistan and U.S. President Jimmy Carter pulls the U.S. from the Olympics in Moscow.

1991—The clock drops to 17 minutes-to-midnight as the Cold War officially ends and the U.S. and Russia begin making deep cuts to their nuclear arsenals. "The illusion that tens of thousands of nuclear weapons are a guarantor of national security has been stripped away," the Bulletin says.

1998— The clock moves to nine minutes-to-midnight after India and Pakistan stage nuclear weapons tests.

2015—The clock moves to three minutes-to-midnight. The bulletin cites "unchecked climate change, global nuclear weapons modernizations, and outsized nuclear weapons arsenals" that pose "extraordinary and undeniable threats to the continued existence of humanity."

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foolspoo
2.9 / 5 (15) Jan 26, 2016
Yaaaaaaaaaawn. Let the tabloids cover the superstitious material.
jeffensley
2.5 / 5 (13) Jan 26, 2016
Lets be honest here. This has nothing to do with science. Phys.org needs a political section for this.
gkam
2.3 / 5 (16) Jan 26, 2016
These outside posters with no education of nuclear weapons have no idea of the destruction of these devices, nor how close we came to not existing several times.

Now, with AGW, the threat is worse because we have so few means to combat it, and the Deniers, swayed by their own political prejudice against anything progressive, aided by the owners of Dirty Fuels, are in the way.

We simply cannot afford to delay action.
promile
Jan 26, 2016
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jeffensley
2.3 / 5 (12) Jan 26, 2016
These outside posters with no education of nuclear weapons have no idea of the destruction of these devices, nor how close we came to not existing several times.

Now, with AGW, the threat is worse because we have so few means to combat it, and the Deniers, swayed by their own political prejudice against anything progressive, aided by the owners of Dirty Fuels, are in the way.

We simply cannot afford to delay action.


You're making a straw man argument, Mr. Inside Poster... (whatever the hell inside/outside means in the context of an internet discussion). Nuclear weapons are a threat. I simply suggest that an arbitrary clock has nothing to do with science. And models remain in the realm of pseudo-science... especially our untested long-range predictions. You know, the ones that activists demand we respond to as if they were the word of God. Why do you choose to give models a pass on the scrutiny and rigorous testing that the science community is supposed to uphold?
gkam
1 / 5 (12) Jan 26, 2016
Models? From where do you get your opinion? I got mine not from models, but from earning from 1979-1982 a Master of Science in the field. We have watched as conditions deteriorated even faster than we feared back then, pushed by the Big Money of petroleum.

We use models to forecast, and they are pretty good. What do you use? Political prejudice?

But we do not need models to compare temperatures, read sea level, or measure the pH of the oceans, . . . and they tell the story.
jeffensley
2.2 / 5 (10) Jan 26, 2016
But we do not need models to compare temperatures, read sea level, or measure the pH of the oceans, . . . and they tell the story.


You're right, those are OBSERVATIONS and they just aren't frightening. That's the value of the fearsome predictions. They cause panic and force people into action before they understand the consequences or lack thereof.
gkam
1.6 / 5 (14) Jan 26, 2016
" They cause panic and force people into action before they understand the consequences or lack thereof."
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No, jeff, you are ascribing conservative character to the rest of us. We are different.

I knew better than to panic when Dubya tried the "WMD!!" stunt, having seen that kind of duplicity before. It was the conservatives who failed us on 9/11, then inflicted the police State on us to compensate for it.

You do not think the observations are scary. I guess you should have taken the science classes I had.
WillieWard
4 / 5 (10) Jan 26, 2016
I got mine not from models, but from earning from 1979-1982 a Master of Science in the field
...
I guess you should have taken the science classes I had.
Master of Science in the BS#*! field.
Scroofinator
2.5 / 5 (13) Jan 26, 2016
Nothing new, fear as a motivator instead of progress and hope... sad
Cave_Man
4.8 / 5 (10) Jan 26, 2016
I argue that if we brought advanced tech to everyone on the planet we would solve most violence issues. Nobody is going to suicide bomb you if they are well fed, educated, entertained and happy!

We could feed every hungry child in the world with what USA supermarkets waste which is only a small portion of waste. Many many examples of how things could be better.
gkam
1 / 5 (10) Jan 26, 2016
scroof, you may not understand the Bulletin, its genesis, and use in the past decades. Its contributors are the best in the world in their fields. It is a serious and educational tool for serious thinkers, well aware of the dangers we face today.

I suggest you read it. You will appreciate its depth.
jeffensley
2.6 / 5 (12) Jan 26, 2016
" They cause panic and force people into action before they understand the consequences or lack thereof."
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No, jeff, you are ascribing conservative character to the rest of us. We are different.

I knew better than to panic when Dubya tried the "WMD!!" stunt, having seen that kind of duplicity before. It was the conservatives who failed us on 9/11, then inflicted the police State on us to compensate for it.

You do not think the observations are scary. I guess you should have taken the science classes I had.


Change is scary and fear is a human trait... it doesn't belong to only one political ideology. But fear is not a good reason to rush important decisions. A year, 5 years, a decade just aren't going to make that much difference. Until then, we can enjoy the possible delay of another Ice Age that would most certainly be a killer of humanity.
gkam
1 / 5 (10) Jan 26, 2016
jeff,
It is professional concern, not irrational or irrelevant fear which drives us.

When I said you should have had my graduate course in environmental sciences, I meant it. You are smart enough to see the real situation and change your mind.
foolspoo
3 / 5 (14) Jan 26, 2016
Gkam, i appreciate some of what you say. You dont have a peg to stand on here mate. This is not science. As you said, weve been close. We may get closer. We may get there. This is nothing but terrorism.
jeffensley
2.3 / 5 (12) Jan 26, 2016
Oh I still remember plenty undergrad courses. I wish I had kept my notes but according to some texts, we should have run out of oil by now and this was the mid-90's. Too many prognosticators getting too much credibility and having their predictions proven wrong (like Gore for example) are killing the message. I believe in stewardship, I just don't believe in using models as guides nor do I believe doom and gloom scenarios are good motivators. We do the best we can but we still have to acknowledge that we really aren't in control of the outcome. That's why these arguments about 1.5 degrees C warming vs. 2.0 degrees are comical. We make valiant efforts to replicate future scenarios but all it takes is one bad estimate or missing a variable altogether and these carefully created, tedious models are rendered useless.
gkam
1 / 5 (10) Jan 26, 2016
foolspoo, how much of the Bulletin have you read?

How about you, jeff?
BrettC
3.3 / 5 (12) Jan 26, 2016
Are they smiling or are they just smug? Either way, it's an inappropriate emotion considering the content.
gkam
1 / 5 (10) Jan 26, 2016
That expression could be from anything, and you were not there for the moment to see the context, let alone the true emotion allegedly displayed.
Old_C_Code
1.7 / 5 (11) Jan 26, 2016
We simply cannot afford to delay action.


Yet you Ignore truly certain real threats like doomsday ASTEROIDS, Chicken Little.
Old_C_Code
1.7 / 5 (11) Jan 26, 2016
Green is fine. But if they'd spend the billions on ASTEROID detection and deflection instead of quelling fears from IRRATIONAL climate models, we'd could probably soon have a Moon base able to detect and deflect doomsday ASTEROIDS in a doomsday's notice.

Asteroids are never mentioned, yet they are the ONLY doomsday CATACLYSM GUARANTEED to happen.
gkam
1.7 / 5 (11) Jan 26, 2016
Who said I (or others), ignore asteroids?

And who is screaming the sky is falling on us?
rrrander
2.1 / 5 (14) Jan 26, 2016
These self-promoting Marxist crackpots are no more reliable or accurate than the Club of Rome with its ridiculous doomsday scenarios.
gkam
1 / 5 (10) Jan 27, 2016
rrrander,

You are demonstrating your complete ignorance of the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists.
AGreatWhopper
3.7 / 5 (12) Jan 27, 2016
This story was posted here as troll bait. It's everything that makes the morons foam at the mouth; consensus, establishment scientists, progressive political activism and someone telling them that their favorite toys show them to be barbaric.

On the other hand, such a story would be disturbing...until you read the comments. After looking at them I can only say, "Good. It's for the best". I will have sweet dreams tonight imagining the faces of those that troll the site melting.
AGreatWhopper
3.4 / 5 (10) Jan 27, 2016
jeffensley3 / 5 (6) Jan 26, 2016
Lets be honest here.


You have no interest in honesty or you wouldn't be debating gkam.
jljenkins
3 / 5 (8) Jan 27, 2016
What an asylum of loons!!!

That's the proper collective noun. One thinks that whoever coined it was familiar with the commentors on this site.
jljenkins
3.4 / 5 (10) Jan 27, 2016
What an asylum of loons!!!

That's the proper collective noun. One thinks that whoever coined it was familiar with the commentors on this site.
ab3a
3 / 5 (4) Jan 30, 2016
This is a Public Relations stunt. It always has been. The whole notion that one can quantify a risk that can only be described in human terms is silly.

Are we 17 minutes to midnight? Oooh. That means something. Now it's only three minutes. Oooh, that means something profound.

I declare the answer is 42,342.5 heartbeats. It means just about as much.
gkam
1 / 5 (3) Jan 30, 2016
"The whole notion that one can quantify a risk that can only be described in human terms is silly."
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I suggest your read The Bulletin for yourself, including the old issues. I subscribed for 10-15 years. You will probably not find a higher level of discourse.
Uncle Ira
2.6 / 5 (5) Jan 30, 2016
Oooh, that means something profound.


@ Jacob-Skippy. How you are Cher? I am good and in the middle of the winter field day. We are set up in an actual field down the lane from my house. About 7 or 6 of us couyons are making a night of it. It's been a blast so far. I got 37 QSO's on 80 meters already. 29 on 40. And a whopping 53 on 20. Not to shabby, eh? If you hear some guys in 5-land that talk funny it is probably me.

Oh yeah, I almost forget. Yeah,, ol glam-Skippy likes that drama stuffs, when it is on the new-agey hippie subjects, he calls it technical discussions and debate. He is also fond of the bumper-sticker slogans too, but he is going to have to cut back on that,,,, he's got the new electric car and it don't have much of a bumper to be plastering with new-agey stickers.
Uncle Ira
3 / 5 (4) Jan 30, 2016
P.S. for you Jacob-Skippy. I am the Extra with the 2 by 2 (and testing for my GROL next month) from Louisiana everybody is always having the big fun with because of the way I talk. Sorry I can't put my call up, some of these couyons would use the zed place to find out where I live and maybe annoy Mrs-Ira-Skippette who can not take as much foolishment as I can.

73's Cher.
ab3a
3 / 5 (2) Feb 01, 2016
I suggest your read The Bulletin for yourself, including the old issues. I subscribed for 10-15 years. You will probably not find a higher level of discourse.


I'm not saying anything about the level of discourse in The Bulletin. I'm saying this is a stupid publicity stunt that is meant to browbeat politicians toward the political side of these "Atomic Scientists."

Just because the level of discourse is "high" does not mean I would automatically agree with the assumptions from where they start.
gkam
2 / 5 (4) Feb 01, 2016
You haven't read the Bulletin, so how do you now what you are arguing against? I suggest you read it.
antigoracle
2.6 / 5 (5) Feb 01, 2016
What a waste of cardboard and time.
jeffensley
5 / 5 (2) Feb 01, 2016
This story was posted here as troll bait. It's everything that makes the morons foam at the mouth;


Well it did get you quite excited it didn't it. Look at history and human's obsession with self-annihilation for a little perspective.
ab3a
3.4 / 5 (5) Feb 02, 2016
You haven't read the Bulletin, so how do you now what you are arguing against? I suggest you read it.

You don't understand my argument. This is a publicity stunt. What they say, no matter how profound and erudite, is made LESS relevant thanks to stupid publicity stunts like this.

My response to you is that these people are 87 hours, 32 minutes, and 23.2 seconds from utter irrelevance.
gkam
1 / 5 (5) Feb 02, 2016
YOU are calling THEM irrelevant?

These folk are not Kumbayah peaceniks. These are the professionals who actually built the bombs, understood them, and who guided us to nuclear weapons treaties.

Tell us what you did, again.
Uncle Ira
4 / 5 (4) Feb 02, 2016
YOU are calling THEM irrelevant?

That's not what he said. He said the clock thing was silly drama.

Tell us what you did, again.

Not everybody is the big braggart like you (especially since your brags are usually inflated to the point of being lies.)

So ol Ira-Skippy will tell you what he did. He is the REAL Electrical Engineer with the REAL degrees and licenses. He is also the REAL pilot with the REAL flying licenses. He is also the REAL experienced computer software guy with REAL jobs.

And you really going to love this one. He is the REAL shooting instructor teaching kids about how to choot and gun safety.
gkam
1 / 5 (4) Feb 02, 2016
" . . these people are 87 hours, 32 minutes, and 23.2 seconds from utter irrelevance. "
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Apparently the REAL Ira never learned to read.

And if you were REAL, you would have had the character to admit what I sent you.

Send me copies of your "flying licenses". We can do the engineering degrees later.
Uncle Ira
4 / 5 (4) Feb 02, 2016
" . . these people are 87 hours, 32 minutes, and 23.2 seconds from utter irrelevance. "
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Apparently the REAL Ira never learned to read.

And if you were REAL, you would have had the character to admit what I sent you.

Send me copies of your "flying licenses". We can do the engineering degrees later.


Skippy, you need to work on your reading skills. I don't have any flying licenses to show you. Why would I need a flying license? I don't even like airplanes.

I was talking about ab3a-Skippy who you asked what he did? And all those things about him are exactly true without the exaggerating you always do.
gkam
1 / 5 (4) Feb 02, 2016
Gosh, Toots, I never claimed to have an engineering degree, that is why it was so much fun teaching REAL engineers how to think, not just react like they were taught. Did you not read my reviews from 7X24Exchange online? Or see my Power Quality stuff on my website? Or see my picture on the front page of the newspaper of the Air force Fight Test Center? Were you flying there at Edwards while I was working on Yeager's B-57?

If you were really an EE, you would have asked technical questions to trip me up, not just played the Swamp Goober. I gave you plenty of chance when I brought up working with 18-bit M-365 Computing Controllers running Teradyne J-259 and J-283 IC test systems using Kelvin connections with the token-ring network.
ab3a
4.3 / 5 (6) Feb 02, 2016
gkam, I don't have to prove myself to you.

What's more, I don't worship certificates. I have them so that I can get things done legally and ethically. If my comments don't stand up to scrutiny, tell me what you disagree with. I'm not going to hide behind a certificate and say that I know better than you because some written test says so. But if you expect to be taken seriously, take the time to actually read what I wrote; and then consider what I'm actually getting at.
Uncle Ira
4 / 5 (4) Feb 03, 2016
Gosh, Toots, I never claimed to have an engineering degree, that is why it was so much fun teaching REAL engineers how to think, not just react like they were taught. Did you not read my reviews from 7X24Exchange online? Or see my Power Quality stuff on my website? Or see my picture on the front page of the newspaper of the Air force Fight Test Center? Were you flying there at Edwards while I was working on Yeager's B-57?

If you were really an EE, you would have asked technical questions to trip me up, not just played the Swamp Goober. I gave you plenty of chance when I brought up working with 18-bit M-365 Computing Controllers running Teradyne J-259 and J-283 IC test systems using Kelvin connections with the token-ring network.


I never said I was an EE. Not even hint at it. So Skippy, you don't seem to read much better than you lie. I am not the EE, I am a Marine Propulsion Systems Engineer.
Uncle Ira
4 / 5 (4) Feb 03, 2016
Gosh, Toots,


Gosh Tooty back at you. Gosh who do think you are bragging to this time? I am Ira-Skippy. Not ab3a. I do not fly planes. I am not an EE. I am the towboat guy, remember? ab3a-Skippy is the REAL: Electrical Engineer and the REAL pilot. I know he is really those things, just like I know you are NOT an Electrical Engineer like YOU claimed you were (with the other six kinds of engineer you claimed to be.)

I have caught you wrong on the easy stuffs dozens of time now. otto-Skippy has caught you wrong on dozens of times now. Estevan-Skippy another dozens of times. Captain-Skippy too. Vietvet-Skippy too Lord-Skippy almost a dozen times. Just about everybody who has bothered to check out the stuffs you know from your "experience" has told you that you got it wrong.

You are really bad at making it up as you go along and really stupid to do it on the science place.
Uncle Ira
4 / 5 (4) Feb 03, 2016
I never claimed to have an engineering degree,

That's right you didn't but you DID claim to be an Electrical Engineer with the capital letters.

that is why it was so much fun teaching REAL engineers how to think,

But we know you did not teach real engineers. They were the office staff at conventions.

Did you not read my reviews from 7X24Exchange online?

I did that. And you know that is how I know you did not teach real engineers about about electricity. You gave the lectures on basic electricity and ohms law. For the non-technical participants.
gkam
1 / 5 (4) Feb 03, 2016
"So ol Ira-Skippy will tell you what he did. He is the REAL Electrical Engineer with the REAL degrees and licenses. He is also the REAL pilot with the REAL flying licenses. He is also the REAL experienced computer software guy with REAL jobs."
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So . . . which time were you lying?

And yes, I served as an Electrical Engineer. When you can do the job, you do not necessarily need the certificate. You attacked the wrong person Ira, thinking I was one of you.

Go look up the Power Quality part of my website and we can debate the role of harmonics in power systems.
gkam
1 / 5 (3) Feb 03, 2016
Ira, just read the Bulletin. I suggest you go back to the days of the Cold War, when I was a member and a subscriber to the magazine. It is serious stuff: Nobody is going to yell "Hooeyie", or anything. But they saved our lives by educating the politicians.
Uncle Ira
5 / 5 (3) Feb 03, 2016
"So ol Ira-Skippy will tell you what he did. He is the REAL Electrical Engineer with the REAL degrees and licenses. He is also the REAL pilot with the REAL flying licenses. He is also the REAL experienced computer software guy with REAL jobs."
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So . . . which time were you lying?

I never lied. I got no skin in the game. I was talking about ab3a-Skippy. You know that. That is because when I said "what he did" the "he" should be the clue that does not mean "me" or "I".

And yes, I served as an Electrical Engineer. When you can do the job, you do not necessarily need the certificate.
But you have shown us here over and over and a lot more overs that you could NOT do the job.

You attacked the wrong person Ira, thinking I was one of you.

Cher, you will never be one of me. It's too late in your life for that. Your grumpyness is set in permanent like. The silliness too.
gkam
1 / 5 (4) Feb 03, 2016
Ira, can you EVER discuss the technical issues? All we get from you is the silly, adolescent personal comment game. PLEASE go to Twitter or elsewhere to play those games.
Uncle Ira
3.4 / 5 (5) Feb 03, 2016
Ira, just read the Bulletin. I suggest you go back to the days of the Cold War, when I was a member and a subscriber to the magazine. It is serious stuff:


Who cares about the stinking "Bulletin"? ab3a-Skippy was talking about the "doomsday clock". It is the political stunt. Like a show. It was not even very good one either. It was meant to target emotions not science. I agree with ab3a-Skippy about that. The whole "clock" business is targeted for the newagey peaceniks and goobers like you so you can pretend to be insider-with-it-glibby-witty-intellectual-types.

I also see why you think the "clock" so sciency and the "doomsday clock" is the "higher level of discourse", you think bumper sticker slogans are "debating the technical issues".

Cher you are wrong more than you are right here. You should keep your pretending down at Starbucks or the patio cafe where it is safer for pretenders. These peoples aren't elderly new-agey gray haired Skippettes.
Uncle Ira
3.4 / 5 (5) Feb 03, 2016
Ira, can you EVER discuss the technical issues? All we get from you is the silly, adolescent personal comment game. PLEASE go to Twitter or elsewhere to play those games.


Skiippy you are remarkable stupid you. How many times you going to ask me to go away? How many times you already ask me that? How many times it worked? You think is if ask one more time it will work? Yeah, you probably do, you are really that dumb.

If you do not like my commenting you got several options Cher.
1) You can learn to like them.
2) You can keep on not liking them and pull up your big boy panties and get over yourself.
3) You can put me on the ignore so you don't get your delicate sensitivities offended by ol Ira-Skippy.
4) You can keep on doing like you do because you don't have the will power to do 1), 2) or 3), letting things stay like they are and you stay grumpy.

I don't care which you pick but suspect it will be 4).
gkam
1 / 5 (4) Feb 03, 2016
" The whole "clock" business is targeted for the newagey peaceniks and goobers like you so you can pretend to be insider-with-it-glibby-witty-intellectual-types."
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I cannot compete with that demonstration of complete ignorance. All I have are facts and experience, while you have a bad attitude and little ego with which to fight me.

Read it.

Then, realize how little you really are, . . .
Uncle Ira
4 / 5 (4) Feb 03, 2016
Then, realize how little you really are, . . .


That is why I am happy content and feeling good about my life Cher. You should try it sometime, you would be surprised how much it makes your quality of life better.

All that frustration about not doing all the things you just know you could have done but didn't really do can't be good for your mental health in your old age. Knowing you COULD have done them so good that it is just the same as ACTUALLY doing them is the fool's errand Cher. But it's your life, live in your imaginations if you want.

I am happy with the things I have accomplished me. And I am not obsessed with the things I have not accomplished but wish I had. The reason you KNOW that is true is because I got no need to put what I have done on parade. I did them for me because I wanted, not for all the couyons on the interweb to oooh and aaaah over.

So it it's all the same to you I will just stay the little ol Ira-Skippy.
gkam
1 / 5 (4) Feb 03, 2016
I guess my being real was more than you could take.

Meanwhile, read the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists. Seriously. I have not followed it since about 1990, but took it for more than ten years. Those were the years of Triads, MIRVs, MARVs, fratricide, and CEP. I was working on Crisis Relocation in 1978-79, the technical part of increasing the hardening of industry from the effects of nuclear weapons. Yup. Crazy stuff, . . . and scientists finally stopped it.

I am telling you these people of the Bulletin saved us. You were still in diapers, perhaps.
Uncle Ira
4 / 5 (4) Feb 03, 2016
I guess my being real was more than you could take.

Well speaking of being real, I really could couldn't take being real like you. You are too sour and grumpy for me to want that.

I was working on Crisis Relocation in 1978-79, the technical part of increasing the hardening of industry from the effects of nuclear weapons.

Of course you were Cher, and I would expect nothing less.

Yup. Crazy stuff,

"Yup." You surely are that thing Skippy.

and scientists finally stopped it.

If you say so. But since it is glam-Skippy saying so, excuse me it I have my doubts. Your track record is really, really, and some more really bad. With your track record here on the physorg with getting things right, most peoples have come know that Skippy skipping over your blurts blahs and brags is the best way to go.

I am telling you these people of the Bulletin saved us.

For what it's worth, you telling me something is not worth much.

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