New Tesla software to offer 'full' autonomy, Musk says

June 11, 2018
Tesla founder and Elon Musk says an update to the carmaker's Autopilot software will enable "full" autonomous driving features

An update to Tesla's Autopilot software coming in August will enable "full self-driving features" for the automaker's electric cars, chief executive Elon Musk says.

Musk's comments come amid a race by automakers and tech firms to roll out fully autonomous vehicles, but also rising concerns about the safety of robotic systems.

The Tesla founder made the disclosure in a Twitter conversation, responding to a user who complained about issues with Autopilot, which is currently considered semi-autonomous with the requirement that a motorist be at the wheel at all times.

Musk said the updated "Version 9" coming in August would help address a number of issues.

"To date, Autopilot resources have rightly focused entirely on safety. With V9, we will begin to enable full self-driving features," he said.

Musk offered no details about the system, which could accelerate the effort to put more self-driving cars on the roads in the United States.

Federal safety investigators have been looking into a series of accidents, including at least two fatal ones, involving self-driving cars.

Musk has complained about the focus on accidents, arguing that self-driving systems are likely to be far safer than human drivers.

"It's super messed up that a Tesla crash resulting in a broken ankle is front page news and the (approximately) 40,000 people who died in US auto accidents alone in past year get almost no coverage," Musk said last month.

The National Transportation Safety Board said in a preliminary report last week that a Tesla operating on Autopilot sped up before a crash into a freeway barrier in California that killed the driver.

In another fatal accident last year, Tesla's Autopilot failed to detect a truck crossing the road, but investigators pointed out the driver was watching a movie at the time and not paying attention with the semi-autonomous system in operation.

After an Uber self-driving vehicle earlier this year killed a pedestrian in Arizona, investigators said the automatic braking system had been disabled.

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JamesG
1 / 5 (1) Jun 11, 2018
His semi-autonomous software doesn't work right yet. This whole autonomy rush is going to get lots of people killed. The tech isn't good enough.
Shakescene21
5 / 5 (3) Jun 11, 2018
"With V9 we will begin to enable full self-driving features."

This is Musk's actual statement, which is much more limited than the headline suggesting that Version 9 will have full autonomy in August.

I'm looking forward to having a fully autonomous car, but I'll need to wait a while beyond August.
snoosebaum
1 / 5 (2) Jun 11, 2018
good, put 'm on the road , start killing people , that will end it ,, or ? up the propaganda 'humans are worse '' .
TheGhostofOtto1923
3.7 / 5 (3) Jun 11, 2018
His semi-autonomous software doesn't work right yet
Yes it does.
This whole autonomy rush is going to get lots of people killed
No it wont.
The tech isn't good enough
Sure it is.
good, put 'm on the road , start killing people
Now why on earth would the insurance companies let that happen??
snoosebaum
1 / 5 (2) Jun 11, 2018


another puzzle, google self drivers are festooned with cameras/etc , teslas are not

, put 'm on the road , start killing people


Now why on earth would the insurance companies let that happen?? ''


who cares ? its the globalist/marxist plan
TheGhostofOtto1923
1 / 5 (1) Jun 11, 2018


another puzzle, google self drivers are festooned with cameras/etc , teslas are not

, put 'm on the road , start killing people


Now why on earth would the insurance companies let that happen?? ''


who cares ? its the globalist/marxist plan
No its not.
PTTG
not rated yet Jun 11, 2018
Snoosebaum, have you ever spoken to a therapist of psychologist about your paranoid tendencies?
snoosebaum
not rated yet Jun 11, 2018
PTTG , ever watch CNN ?
tekram
not rated yet Jun 12, 2018
The data doesn't really back Musk's claims right now and it may be getting worse. https://www.green...k/page-3

"By the IIHS yardstick, the Autopilot Tesla is more than three times as dangerous as a typical passenger vehicle, even with all the advantages cited above.

Using the latest Autopilot numbers—2 driver fatalities, 222 million miles driven—the fatality rate is one per 111 million miles. That's almost four times worse than IIHS's average for passenger cars.

But don't forget: the Autopilot crash sample size remains so low that the one-per-111 million number is almost meaningless."
https://www.wired...tistics/
antialias_physorg
3.7 / 5 (3) Jun 12, 2018
good, put 'm on the road , start killing people , that will end it ,, or ?

It will kill people - but the real question is: will it kill more people per person/km traveled than not having it?

Arguing on the level of: "A surgical operation has resulted in a death. Oh noes - let's never have any surgical operations ever again!" is just stupid.

It's like the people complaining that an EV can catch fire - when EVs have caught fire on average every 120 million miles traveled...vs. 1 fire every 20 million miles for gasoline powered cars. Yes: cars shouldn't catch fire at all - but looking at the numbers (if I was scared of cars catching fire that is) I'd rather sit in an EV.
wiyosaya
not rated yet Jun 12, 2018
His semi-autonomous software doesn't work right yet
Yes it does.

No it does not. Find an article on the preliminary results of the NTSB investigation into the crash earlier this year. The NTSB has found that the car SPED UP when it was approaching the barrier that it crashed into.

When even a partially autonomous vehicle speeds up approaching a clearly non-moving object, the software simply does not work right no matter how you spin it or even if you think Musk is a stable genius.

If you also care to do your research, there are several instances this year where autopiloted Teslas have crashed into emergency vehicles. One, a parked Police car; two, a fire truck and the Tesla was doing 65 MPH.

Nothing will change the fact that there is something wrong with that software, and Musk is just racing to be the first to have it on the road in the vehicles he produces. He could care less about the safety of the people who drive his vehicles.
Shakescene21
not rated yet Jun 12, 2018
@wyosaya: The current software has a glitch which allowed the car to crash into the barrier WHEN THE DRIVER WAS NOT PAYING ATTENTION. The current software is not fully autonomous Level 5 and the company makes it abundantly clear that the driver is expected to have hands on the wheel and eyes on the road.

The software is constantly being improved, and this glitch will surely be corrected (as will many others) before Tesla declares that Autopilot is Level 5 autonomous.
snoosebaum
not rated yet Jun 12, 2018
anti , people are forgiving of doctors , even other drivers to some extent but a machine ? no way. The whole idea is pointless in any case , way to much money around to malinvest

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