Poverty-level wages cost U.S. taxpayers $153 billion every year

Poverty-level wages cost U.S. taxpayers $153 billion every year
More than half of low-wage fast-food workers nationwide take advantage of public assistance, ranging from food stamps to Medicaid. Credit: CC BY-NC-SA 2.0 by Drpoulette

While the U.S. economy rebounds, persistent low wages are costing taxpayers approximately $153 billion every year in public support to working families, including $25 billion at the state level, according to a new report from the University of California, Berkeley, Center for Labor Research and Education. The report details for the first time the state-by-state cost to taxpayers of low wages in the United States.

Following decades of wage cuts and health benefits rollbacks, more than half of all state and federal spending on public assistance programs (56 percent) now goes to , the report documents.

"When companies pay too little for to provide for their families, workers rely on public assistance programs to meet their basic needs," said Ken Jacobs, chair of the labor center and co-author of the new report. "This creates significant cost to the states."

The report analyzed state spending for Medicaid/Children's Health Insurance Program and Temporary Aid to Needy Families (TANF), and for those programs and food stamps (SNAP) and the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC).

The UC Berkeley researchers also report that:

  • On average, 52 percent of state public assistance spending supports working families, with costs as high as $3.7 billion in California, $3.3 billion in New York and $2 billion in Texas.
  • Reliance on public assistance can be found among workers in a diverse range of occupations, including frontline fast-food workers (52%), childcare workers (46%), home care workers (48%) and even part-time college faculty (25%).

From 2003 to 2013, wage growth remained flat or negative for the entire bottom 70 percent of workers in the United States, Jacobs said. Over the same time, the share of non-elderly Americans receiving health insurance from an employer fell almost 10 percentage points, from 67 percent to 58 percent. Despite modest pay raises at some of the country's largest and most profitable employers, including Walmart and McDonald's, continue to lag far behind inflation.

The researchers note that raising wages would result in significant savings to state and federal governments. In recent months, the substantial cost of low wages has prompted elected officials to take action. California, Colorado, Maine, Oregon and Washington are considering increasing the minimum wage to $12 or higher. In Connecticut, a proposal currently moving through the state legislature would fine large companies that pay low wages in an effort to recoup the cost these companies impose on taxpayers. The Congressional Democrats' fiscal year 2016 budget proposal unveiled last month included a provision that would roll back tax breaks for large companies that fail to raise pay on pace with inflation.

"Our public-assistance programs provide a vital support system for American families. Raising wages would lift working families out of poverty and allow all levels of government to better target how our tax dollars are used," Jacobs said.


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Apr 13, 2015
Stingy rich folk do NOT care. They got their bucks by taking them from others. Most of them are in fields such as politics or religion or finance or banking or business, fields we invented and can change the rules at our whim.

They are the Takers, those who produce nothing, but take the wealth created by the workers, the artists, the journeymen, the factory-workers, and play with it until it all sticks to their fingers. Look up who owns America, and find out it is NOT those who are the Makers, but the parasitic Takers, . . the rich.

Apr 13, 2015
I see. So once again let's transfer the cost of social problems to industry. And how much, pray tell, will it cost "US Taxpayers" for the concomitant price increases? And what government regs will be passed to limit business from defending itself through further automation. And when will copies of Atlas Shrugged be burned on the Washington mall?

Apr 13, 2015
"And when will copies of Atlas Shrugged be burned on the Washington mall?"
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Hilarious! Why not mention the real work of Ayn Rand, or whatever her real name was? It is called "The Virtue of Selfishness", and is her seminal work.

She was so selfish, she put her money in a trust for right-wing propaganda, and lived off of us for the rest of her life, as an intentional parasite on welfare!

Great character!

Apr 13, 2015
The problem with low wages is they cost the rest of us. Instead of having us compensate Wal-Mart workers with welfare, let's pay them sufficiently so they can become taxpayers, and consumers of what they make.

We are just subsidizing the filthy rich Walton Gang.

Apr 13, 2015
Suggest an actual reading of Atlas Shrugged or, for that matter, "The Virtue of Selfishness", intentionally named, I suspect, to stir knee jerk reactions in socialists.

Apr 13, 2015
I suggest you actually READ, as I have done, "The Virtue of Selfishness", and realize the terrible truth.

Apr 13, 2015
"She was so selfish, she put her money in a trust for right-wing propaganda, and lived off of us for the rest of her life, as an intentional parasite on welfare!"

"One of the things she was most admired for was the way she stuck to her principles throughout her life . . . or so it seemed. In 2011, it was revealed that Rand had spent the last eight years of her life receiving Social Security and Medicare benefits. At the time of her death, her estate was valued at $500,000 (around $1.2 million in today's money), suggesting her decision was motivated less by rationality than by the sort of parasitic greed she'd always claimed to despise."

The problem is Gkam that the truth is meaningless to you and most liberals. SS and Medicare is NOT welfare. Your purposeful distortion of the facts to suite your agenda is why liberals and the green agenda cannot be trusted.

Apr 13, 2015
Have you read "The Virtue of Selfishness"?

I suggest you do so today. Come back and debate it after you have read it.

Apr 13, 2015
"The problem is Gkam that the truth is meaningless to you and most liberals."
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Yeah, . . you've decided that, have you? Like the other "Decider"?

Apr 13, 2015
Yes Gkam I have decided that. One would have to be brain dead not to realize that the end justifies the means in the progressive world. The disease called liberalism is not too much different that of pedophilia where the pedophile truly believes that the child happy and being loved. The liberals truly believe that they are saving the world and that lying, cheating and fudging data are justified because the goals are pure.

Apr 13, 2015
I'll bet you got fooled, suckered, by two draft-dodgers screaming "WMD!" and "Bring 'em on!" while cowering in their Undisclosed Locations. Libertarians care for nobody but themselves.

It is why there are no libertarian governments: It does not work, and they cannot stand each other.

Read the Virtue of Selfishness before you come back.

Apr 13, 2015
I'm all for fining (and raising income taxes on the CXOs) companies if a certain % of their workforce is on welfare. Or the ratio between the top earner is more than 100x the bottom earner.

Apr 13, 2015
I'll bet you got fooled, suckered, by two draft-dodgers screaming "WMD!" and "Bring 'em on!" while cowering in their Undisclosed Locations. Libertarians care for nobody but themselves.

It is why there are no libertarian governments: It does not work, and they cannot stand each other.

Read the Virtue of Selfishness before you come back.
Hey how many t shirts could we make out of this one post? Lots I think. (save the whales)

Apr 13, 2015
I wonder if otto has read anything besides wiki. Read The Virtue of Selfishness. It's you.

Apr 14, 2015
How is it that little Australia can afford a minimum wage of $16.87 when America can only afford $7.25? (Australian dollar was at parity with the US dollar just a few months ago).

The wealth of the USA is an illusion. They have been living on the government credit card for too long and will eventually go bankrupt as indicators like the minimum wage clearly demonstrate. America owes so much money to China that they practically own The USA.

There will be adds on TV asking for people to donate money for poor Americans anytime soon..pictures of decaying cities where feral dogs packs rule the streets already fill our screens.

Apr 14, 2015
China holds 8% of U.S. debt.

http://www.factch...ur-debt/

Apr 14, 2015
Hey how many t shirts could we make out of this one post? Lots I think. (save the whales)

Otto, I really wish you'd get over this vendetta thing with gkam. You've made your point; I'm pretty sure everyone (except gkam) gets it, and he never will. Put him on ignore and put your energy into your normal quality posts!

Apr 14, 2015
Hey how many t shirts could we make out of this one post? Lots I think. (save the whales)

Otto, I really wish you'd get over this vendetta thing with gkam. You've made your point; I'm pretty sure everyone (except gkam) gets it, and he never will. Put him on ignore and put your energy into your normal quality posts!
And I really wish more people here would care enough about the quality of posts. As this is a science site we don't need pretenders who claim that their experience qualifies them to make up stuff about H2-initiated prompt criticalities, fallout being the main cause of lung cancer, pool sinks being in widespread use to cool houses, or thorium reactor research being abandoned worldwide.

Give me a good reason to ignore this ongoing abuse.

And I think it's disgraceful for others to encourage it just because the poster shells out compliments and support.

At any rate, it ain't gonna stop.

Apr 14, 2015
Hey, mooster if you doubt any claims just speak up. Send me a email address, and I will send you confirmation. If you think the sniper, the game-player, otto is right, then maybe you are one of those wiki-warriors, too.

Apr 14, 2015
Mooster, I am real. Everything I have said is real. I do not understand the silly adolescent games played by those of you who think this is YOUR forum. Where do you find wiki-warriors, those who do not understand what they cut and paste? If you cross them, they scream "LIAR" and other words I will not put online.

Do you not see what you have devolved into with otto?

Apr 14, 2015
otto: "And I really wish more people here would care enough about the quality of posts"
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Such as screaming "LIAR!", and BULLSHIT!", and the other otto markers. Unable to debate or discuss, this stay-at-home chronic malcontent can only take personal shots at those with information he does not like or probably does not understand, such as engineering and HVAC and aircraft, and plastics, and metals, and electronics, and research.

Apr 14, 2015
if you doubt any claims just speak up. Send me a email address, and I will send you confirmation
Confirmation of what? That despite whatever haughty education and experience you have allegedly accrued, you still think for instance that fallout is the main cause of lung cancer, that H2 explosions can cause prompt criticalities in molten plutonium puddles which can throw imaginary fukushima reactor vessel parts 130km without making a crater, that residential swimming pools are widely used as A/C heat sinks, and etcetcetcetc.

And you still think that your claims of expertise and competency will somehow make this nonsense less WRONG. How can it?

Neither mooster nor anyone probably needs confirmation that your CV is worthless in this respect. But maybe he would want to see it anyway for shits and giggles.
I am real
WHAT does that MEAN??? You get shit WRONG and then think people will overlook it because youre 'REAL'???

What you are, quite obviously, is insane.

Apr 14, 2015
foolspoo, do you think a conservative party in power here will not eventually renege on the debt?

Apr 14, 2015
Money is not wealth when govts can create money.
But nature can't be fooled. As money represents less and less wealth and less and less wealth is created for govts to plunder, it all collapses.

Apr 14, 2015
The liberals truly believe that they are saving the world and that lying, cheating and fudging data are justified because the goals are pure.


'Liberals' claim to love nature yet nature doesn't give a rat's ass about their pure goals.
When money no is longer is tied to wealth and has no meaning, people will starve, economies will collapse as we saw in USSR, and are seeing in Venezuela.
There is a list of commodities to stock up on when the economies collapse. One is cigarettes and the other was toilet paper, along with copper, lead and brass, of course.

Apr 14, 2015
"There is a list of commodities to stock up on when the economies collapse. One is cigarettes and the other was toilet paper, along with copper, lead and brass, of course."
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Some other"individualist" will kill you and take it all.

Apr 14, 2015
"'Liberals' claim to love nature yet nature doesn't give a rat's ass about their pure goals.
When money no is longer is tied to wealth and has no meaning, people will starve, economies will collapse as we saw in USSR, and are seeing in Venezuela."

Rygg the above is correct when talking about the liberal leaders, but I was referring to the useful idiots that they control like puppets.

Apr 14, 2015
The wages of socialism:

"Oppressive, big government polices built on high taxes and stifling regulations that favor big cities to the detriment of small, rural towns is forcing much of small town New York into Detroit levels of financial collapse, a new report says."
"That "death spiral" is being fueled by New York's big cities, urban areas whose citizens are prone to pushing nanny state policies.

"Basically what you've got in New York is a state tax code and regulatory regimen written for New York City," vice president for state projects at the Tax Foundation Joseph Henchman told Desert News. "Legislators say, 'Look, New York is a center of world commerce. Businesses have to be here. It doesn't matter how high we tax them.' I hear that a lot. But when you apply that same logic to upstate, the impact is devastating."
http://www.breitb...detroit/

Apr 14, 2015
""'Liberals' claim to love nature yet nature doesn't give a rat's ass about their pure goals."
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This is hilarious. I guess Nature loves the way you greedy folk screwed up the Earth?

oh, . . . and where are those libertarian governments?

Apr 14, 2015
"In California, the pursuit of fairness has become something of a science for liberals, with the ends justifying the "means" by which outcomes are judged. In recent times, the most emotionally justifiable phrase one can utter in pursuit of equality has been, "we must save the planet for our children." The difficulty with such pursuits is the role unintended consequences play with their efforts–but fear not: little attention is paid to these factors, since "goals" are well-intended."
"So while the Speaker wants more money to address badly needed highway maintenance, the President Pro Tem is calling for a 50% reduction in revenue for the same purposes."
http://www.breitb...els-out/

Apr 14, 2015
Rygg at least NY State is trying to correct the situation. They are creating economic development zones where the corporations do not pay any tax for 10 years.

At the risk of giving Gkam and the other liberals on this board apoplexy I would like to suggest that corporations should pay no federal or state income tax. They should not even have to file. Taxes on dividends, payroll, and capital gains should support the government. THAT would bring all sorts of jobs into the US!

Apr 14, 2015
do not pay any tax for 10 years.


And then? Even 'liberal' NY knows how to fix their problems, but they can't stop lying to themselves about socialism.
That's why Rand's solution, shrugging, seems to be the only real option.

No business should pay income taxes. They must pass on their taxes to customers.

I can support a sales tax, like the FAIR tax. But first the 16th Amendment must be repealed and the sales tax rate must be limited by an amendment AND there must be a sunset clause.
But why support taxing of profits? Profits are the rewards for risking one's wealth to create more wealth. Taxing profits punishes wealth creation.
'Liberals' complain the people consume too much and earn too little. Yet their tax policies tax income and oppose sales taxes.

Apr 14, 2015
"They are creating economic development zones where the corporations do not pay any tax for 10 years."
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They HAVE to do so to get anybody to to there.

Go look at the states with low taxes. You get low quality of life, unless you own everything.

Apr 15, 2015
Mooster, I am real. Everything I have said is real. I do not understand the silly adolescent games played by those of you who think this is YOUR forum. Where do you find wiki-warriors, those who do not understand what they cut and paste? If you cross them, they scream "LIAR" and other words I will not put online.

Do you not see what you have devolved into with otto?

What you don't get, and apparently never will is that your experience doesn't matter one whit on a science site. You act just like JVK; we're supposed to be in awe of your experience and knowledge, and not question you. It's not going to happen. Your experience has no bearing on any matter discussed here. Only the science matters. I thought that was Otto's point, but apparently he's become just another internet debater.

Apr 15, 2015
experience doesn't matter one whit on a science site


That's a fundamental flaw in science.
All humans are unique individuals. Science must decided how to analyze such data.

Apr 15, 2015
" You act just like JVK; we're supposed to be in awe of your experience and knowledge, and not question you"
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I opened myself to you to invite questions, like professionals do, but got "LIAR!", and "BULLSHIT!" from your buddy otto.

Do you folk assume you OWN this forum? Are you genuine professionslals? Do you act like that at work?

" Your experience has no bearing on any matter discussed here. Only the science matters. "
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I was telling you the science, about real experience, not wiki cut and paste. Did YOU do anything in your life? Do you talk about it with professionals?

Time to break up your little cabal of nasty commenters here.

Apr 15, 2015
One of the prime benefits of no corporate income tax is that corporate business decisions would be based on economic and financial criteria. This would do much to aid smaller corporations which are more flexible than large corporations. Part of the reason that large corporations dominate is the complexity of the tax code.

Apr 15, 2015
business decisions would be based on economic and financial criteria.


Too many businesses LIKE fascism. The creation of the FDA was at the behest of the 5 largest meat packers of the day.
Businesses like to buy politicians so they don't have to compete.
Bill Gates discovered that after Clinton attacked MS in court. Gates didn't believe he had to pay protection money to Washington.
Google learned from that and see what fascism does for Google.
It's exactly the same as an organized crime syndicate coercing 'protection' money.

Apr 15, 2015
One of the prime benefits of no corporate income tax is that corporate business decisions would be based on economic and financial criteria. This would do much to aid smaller corporations which are more flexible than large corporations.

Reality looks a bit different. The top companies that pay negative income taxes on occasion are all very large companies (Exxon, et. al.).
Other very large comanies put their money into subsidiaries off shore (e.g. Apple) and wait until the income tax laws are changed before bringing that money home.

Small companies cannot afford these kinds of stunts (or get sued into oblivion by the state if they try. Something they wouldn't dare do to a company like Apple)

Companies need to be taxed. They benefit from all kinds of overt and hidden subsidy schemes (E.g. fossil fuels got 400bn in subsidies in 2010..whereas renewables got 66bn. Now that seems rather skewed given that fossil fuels are a 'established' technology and shouldn't need any.)

Apr 15, 2015
Small companies cannot afford these kinds of stunts

Which is why big companies like fascism.

Companies need to be taxed.


It only makes the victims of fascism feel better about being screwed by their fascist govt control of businesses.

They benefit from all kinds of overt and hidden subsidy schemes


End ALL govt subsidies, taxes, special favors, .....NO more 'green subsidies'. NO more fascist control of businesses.
But the socialists can't accept that free markets and consumers are the best at controlling businesses.
And, socialists, big businesses agree with you. They want to 'be controlled' because its easier to buy politicians than compete in the market place.

Apr 15, 2015
I hope tax dodgers aren't using our roads without paying.

Apr 15, 2015
"Most of the growth in the tax code came in the past 30 years, growing from 26,300 pages in 1984 to nearly three times that length today.

This growth in the tax code has not come without consequences. "Over the decades, lawmakers have increasingly asked the tax code to direct all manner of social and economic objectives, such as encouraging people to buy hybrid vehicles, turn corn into gasoline, purchase health insurance, buy a home, replace that home's windows, adopt children, put them in daycare, purchase school supplies, go to college, invest in historic buildings, spend more on research, and the list goes on,"
http://www.washin.../2563032

Apr 15, 2015
Does Ryggy know he is using the internet, developed for the military, by Big Guvmunt?

What hypocrisy.

Apr 15, 2015
"I hope tax dodgers aren't using our roads without paying."

Oh you mean like off the books workers and welfare recipients.

Apr 15, 2015
"Reality looks a bit different. The top companies that pay negative income taxes on occasion are all very large companies (Exxon, et. al."

Again, progressive propaganda. Oh gee, look at the link below, Exxon has paid the MOST.

http://247wallst....t-taxes/

Apr 15, 2015
"I hope tax dodgers aren't using our roads without paying."

Oh you mean like off the books workers and welfare recipients.


How can one dodge paying fuel taxes?

Roads are supposed to be entirely funded by the users who pay fuel taxes.

Apr 16, 2015
We are too ignorant to be free and deserve to be subjects of our government.

This from an artilce:
"Finally, a Stanford University-Resources for the Future poll asked that question. The results, released today, show that two-thirds of Americans support making corporations pay a price for carbon pollution, provided the revenues are redistributed, i.e., made revenue-neutral. The poll's finding is the most powerful indication yet that the public is warming to carbon taxation as the premier policy for combating climate change."

Now "Revenue Neutral" in this case means tax the corporations but return the money to the public. What a bunch of dolts. They expect to get back more than they put into the system. These people calim that they do not beleive in perpetual motion but they do, well financial perpetual motion at least.

Apr 16, 2015
Now "Revenue Neutral" in this case means tax the corporations but return the money to the public. What a bunch of dolts. They expect to get back more than they put into the system.

Erm. How about: No?

All they are saying is that companies have been able to pollute for free and that the taxpayer has, until now, been footing the bill.
It's just a change on who pays the bills: And when it comes to that what would you suggest besides "The one causing the damage"?
Currently it's "privatize profits, socialize risks". While that has worked as the capitalist mantra for some time I can't find anyone who thinks that is an ethical (or sensible) way of going about structuring a society that is stable over any length of time - even among people who claim they are capitalists.

Apr 16, 2015
taxpayer has, until now, been footing the bill.


This is what the govt wanted.

Govts own the water and the air and refuse to protect private property rights of those damaged. In the US, no one can sue the US without its permission.


Apr 16, 2015
If you are on welfare you should have your voting privileges revoked. We'll see how many democrats get elected. OBAMA! certainly wouldn't have, over half of his voters are leeches.

Apr 16, 2015
"All they are saying is that companies have been able to pollute for free and that the taxpayer has, until now, been footing the bill.
It's just a change on who pays the bills: And when it comes to that what would you suggest besides "The one causing the damage"?
Currently it's "privatize profits, socialize risks". While that has worked as the capitalist mantra for some time I can't find anyone who thinks that is an ethical (or sensible) way of going about structuring a society that is stable over any length of time - even among people who claim they are capitalists."

First of all you cannot compute the net costs of fossil fuels to society without including the offsetting benefits that is pure reality 101. The only other possible reason to tax fossil fuels is obscene corporate profits. Well if you do an unbiased study of this you will find that fossil companies profit margins are among the smallest vs capital invested.

Apr 16, 2015
While that has worked as the capitalist mantra

I don't agree it is a capitalist mantra.
It may be a crony 'capitalist' (fascist) mantra, but not a free market capitalist one.

cjn
Apr 16, 2015
Once upon a time I would have quickly rejected the idea of mandating higher wages for unskilled or replaceable labor. I don't buy into the "you can't support a family off of minimum wage" trope, but one should be able to reasonably support themselves with full-time employment. I don't believe that anyone should consider having a "family" when they are not making a wage sufficient to support said family or voluntarily lack the skills necessary to do so; however, I also know that unexpected things can happen.

To encourage people to work and build experience and skills to improve themselves, I think that "work" has to be sufficiently more profitable to the individual than dependency. This may be best achieved by mandating a reasonable minimum wage, tiered for employee age -where legally-dependent workers earn at a lower rate (as they are provided-for and likely require more development) than those of an independent or "adult" age (18-21 range).

Apr 16, 2015
Borrowed from John Hill on HuffingtonPost with my edits.

Here is what Repubs are being paid off to do and they don't even hide it. It a return to the 1890s, a failed time of no middleclass.... Listen up right-wingers; @R2 and assorted nuts.

This is now the Repub Platform, complete with everything they are pushing for....

Ideas that fail just like communism and just like Communism result in a Oligarchy, no unions....no middleclass, a 3rd world country.

Here are just a few excerpts of the Libertarian Party platform that David Koch ran on in 1980:
•"We urge the repeal of federal campaign finance laws, and the immediate abolition of the despotic Federal Election Commission."
•"We favor the abolition of Medicare and Medicaid programs."
•"We oppose any compulsory insurance or tax-supported plan to provide health services, including those which finance abortion services."
•"We also favor the deregulation of the medical insurance industry."


Apr 16, 2015
Continued;
•"We favor the repeal of the fraudulent, virtually bankrupt, and increasingly oppressive Social Security system. Pending that repeal, participation in Social Security should be made voluntary."
•"We propose the abolition of the governmental Postal Service. The present system, in addition to being inefficient, encourages governmental surveillance of private correspondence. Pending abolition, we call for an end to the monopoly system and for allowing free competition in all aspects of postal service."
•"We oppose all personal and corporate income taxation, including capital gains taxes."
•"We support the eventual repeal of all taxation."
•"As an interim measure, all criminal and civil sanctions against tax evasion should be terminated immediately."
•"We support repeal of all law which impede the ability of any person to find employment, such as minimum wage laws."
What person in their right mind could be for any of this. Yet the butt head repug wingnuts do!

Apr 16, 2015
Continued;
•"We advocate the complete separation of education and State. Government schools lead to the indoctrination of children and interfere with the free choice of individuals. Government ownership, operation, regulation, and subsidy of schools and colleges should be ended."
•"We condemn compulsory education laws ... and we call for the immediate repeal of such laws."
•"We support the repeal of all taxes on the income or property of private schools, whether profit or non-profit."
•"We support the abolition of the Environmental Protection Agency."
•"We support abolition of the Department of Energy."
•"We call for the dissolution of all government agencies concerned with transportation, including the Department of Transportation."
•"We demand the return of America's railroad system to private ownership. We call for the privatization of the public roads and national highway system."

Obviously, all public roads belong to the highest bidder



Apr 16, 2015
Continued;
•"We specifically oppose laws requiring an individual to buy or use so-called "self-protection" equipment such as safety belts, air bags, or crash helmets."
•"We advocate the abolition of the Federal Aviation Administration."
•"We advocate the abolition of the Food and Drug Administration."
•"We support an end to all subsidies for child-bearing built into our present laws, including all welfare plans and the provision of tax-supported services for children."
•"We oppose all government welfare, relief projects, and 'aid to the poor' programs. All these government programs are privacy-invading, paternalistic, demeaning, and inefficient. The proper source of help for such persons is the voluntary efforts of private groups and individuals."
•"We call for the privatization of the inland waterways, and of the distribution system that brings water to industry, agriculture and households."

@R2 must be salivating so hard right now. What a driveler,

Apr 16, 2015
Continued;
•"We call for the repeal of the Occupational Safety and Health Act."
•"We call for the abolition of the Consumer Product Safety Commission."
•"We support the repeal of all state usury laws."

Might as well through in NASA and NOAA, National Science Foundation, USDA too. Throw in anything that has to do with Civil Rights, LGBT or immigration. Basically if it's a wacky and kooky idea that screws the little guy, the Republican party is for it. Isn't that right @R2?


Apr 18, 2015
I'm sure liberals are the reason why corporate profits are high and working wages are low.

Yes Gkam I have decided that. One would have to be brain dead not to realize that the end justifies the means in the progressive world. The disease called liberalism is not too much different that of pedophilia where the pedophile truly believes that the child happy and being loved. The liberals truly believe that they are saving the world and that lying, cheating and fudging data are justified because the goals are pure.


Apr 18, 2015
I'm sure liberals are the reason why corporate profits are high and working wages are low.


Yes, it's true.
The corporate socialists, aka fascists, have been major supporters of democrats: Soros, Buffet, Gates, Styer, ......

"Democrats Hope Hillary Clinton Raises $100s of Millions from Wall Street"
http://www.breitb...-street/

Apr 18, 2015
"Clinton's strong ties with Wall Street were evident in her first run for the presidency in 2008. Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, and the now-bankrupt Lehman Brothers led a gaggle of banks and their lawyers as Hillary Clinton's third-largest source of campaign cash. Financial service industry contributions were far ahead of the cash Clinton raked in from donors tied to public education and women's issues."
"After Barack Obama won the 2008 nomination, the future president tripled the level of fundraising by any presidential candidate to $745 million. An enthusiastic Goldman Sachs was his second-largest Obama contributor, and 8 of the 20 largest contributors to the future president were Wall Street banks and law firms."
http://www.breitb...-street/

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