The hidden agenda of Obama's opposition

Is the US Tea Party movement a racial backlash against President Obama? A new study by Angie Maxwell from the University of Arkansas, and Wayne Parent from Louisiana State University, assesses whether racial attitudes are contributing to Tea Party membership, and if so, the exact nature of this racial prejudice. Their work is published online in Springer's journal, Race and Social Problems.

The is an American political movement that began in 2009 and which is focused on fiscal conservatism. The first major protests took place in 40 states just 37 days after Obama's inauguration. While public statements by Tea Party organizations claim that the movement is driven by , anecdotal accounts of Tea Party events suggest that the movement may be part of a racially charged, anti-Obama backlash.

In an analysis of national survey data of 1,649 white participants, taken from a poll conducted by , Maxwell and Parent look at the influence of three unique in the establishment of the Tea Party. Specifically, they investigate the role of:

  • – "old-fashioned racism," which exposes persistent attitudes and beliefs
  • symbolic racism – the beliefs of individuals who are often socialized in early life to connect moral conservatism and negative ideas of African Americans
  • ethnocentricism – the view that one's own cultural or ethnic group is superior to others

The authors' work demonstrates that both views on economic policy and disapproval of Obama drive Tea Party membership, as well as favorable attitudes to the Tea Party among non-members. In addition, in both cases, there is evidence of a racially biased, so-called "subterranean agenda" in the anti-Obama movement. Although there are nuances in terms of which particular racial attitudes motivate members versus supporters, both groups are driven by race.

The authors conclude, "Clearly, an African-American, mixed-race, liberal President may trigger symbolic racism and even racial stereotypes among the population at large. But these distinct measures are intricately connected, as is evident in this assessment of Tea Party membership and Tea Party support. What the Tea Party means to its members and what it represents to the public at large may, in fact, not be the same thing."


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More information: Maxwell A & Parent TW (2013). A "Subterranean Agenda"? Racial Attitudes, Presidential Evaluations, and Tea Party Membership. Race and Social Problems. DOI 10.1007/s12552-013-9097-7
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Jun 18, 2013
Oh for crying out loud.

Jun 18, 2013
Publish or perish at it's worst.

Jun 18, 2013
Can't type what he's called where I live.

Jun 18, 2013
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Jun 18, 2013
@physorg,,,

I usually don't criticize the articles ya put up, but I really would like to know how this is physics of any sort? I see that ya categorized it as "Other Sciences", what science would that be? Political analysis of polls is not what I would call science, that's why I have cable TV,,,, for that kind of stuff.

Jun 18, 2013
"but I really would like to know how this is physics of any sort?" Q-Star

Perhaps you should look at the top of the page that you are commenting on.

You will note a link titled "Other Sciences".


Jun 18, 2013
Pathetic garbage , shame PhysOrg, shame, you've sunk to a new low.

Jun 18, 2013
"but I really would like to know how this is physics of any sort?" Q-Star

Perhaps you should look at the top of the page that you are commenting on.

You will note a link titled "Other Sciences".



I thought I had noted that? Ooops, did I forget to write that in? I will do so now. (Again.)

Other sciences? Political analysis of public opinion polls is what kind of science?

Jun 18, 2013
The 'agenda' of the tea party is to hold all US public officials accountable to the oath they swore to support and defend the Constitution of the USA.
The tea party must be making progress as we now see the 'race' card being played.
Funny how the 'liberals' tried to destroy the first black Supreme Court judge and how 'liberals' attack any one of 'their' minorities that dares to wander off the plantation.
"And if you dare wander off the liberal plantation, well...they'll make an example of you, pal. Just ask Juan Williams. Or Allen West. Or Justice Clarence Thomas."
http://jerseynut....ing.html

Jun 18, 2013
Phys.Org should immediately remove this trash.

There are many prominent black tea party members that reject these ad homenim attacks against the tea party movement.

Jun 18, 2013
The above "research" disgustingly posted by Phys.Org, is of course a fraud and pure bias propaganda, engineered to demonize rather than debate. Any idiot can find racists in every group, including the NAACP.

The factual motivations for the Tea Party can be found Here for anyone wishing to see the remarkable contrast with the above fraud.

More and more blacks are switching to the Republican Party, in fact, for reasons so eloquently put forth in such sublime truth, as expressed in the following video by Louisiana Senator Elbert Guillory.

Jun 18, 2013
I urge Phys.Org to watch that 4 minute video and then promptly remove the above article to limit your embarrassment.

Jun 18, 2013
""You see, in recent history, the Democrat party has created the illusion that their agenda and their policies are what's best for black people," Guillory said. "Somehow it has been forgotten that the Republican party was founded in 1854 as an abolitionist movement, with one simple creed: that slavery is a violation of the rights of man."

The former Democrat explained that Frederick Douglass called Republicans the "party of freedom and progress." He also pointed out that former Republican President Abraham Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation and Republicans in Congress wrote the Thirteenth, Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments.

"The Democrats, on the other hand, were the party of Jim Crow," Guillory added. "It was the Democrats who defended the rights of slave owners.""
http://www.thebla...l-video/
Guillory is a black LA state senator.

Jun 18, 2013
And don't forget about Artur Davis:
"A Southern Democrat defecting to the GOP is not news. A black Southern Democrat defecting to the GOP is pretty big news. A black Southern Democrat who was a member of Congress and a vocal supporter of President Barack Obama warrants a screaming headline."
http://www.thedai...rty.html
Are the African-Americans racist for opposing Obama?
Thomas Sowell, Walter E. Williams, Herman Cain, Allen West, Mia Love (black woman from UT)
"Tea Partier and former Saratoga Springs, Utah mayor Mia Love. If elected, the 36-year-old mother of three will be the GOP's first black female member of Congress.

Read more: http://www.americ...WblutETv
Follow us: @AmericanThinker on Twitter | AmericanThinker on Facebook
http://www.love4utah.com/

Jun 18, 2013
Phys Org showing once again it is a part of the Hezbollah Progressive movement. Lie, Lie, Lie and lie again.

BTW, it may surprise people, but I'm NOT a member of either the Republicans or the Tea Party.

I just attended a University commencement ceremony and talked to a lot of hard science professors and students, and heard from a lot of Progressive professors and students. I learned once again that hard science departments despises and looks down on the political science departments. They hate the term science even being applied to the political science department. One professor said Political Science is more accurately described as Progressive claptrap.

Jun 18, 2013
On an interesting note, they consider the Tea Party the opposition to Obama not the Republicans. What does that say about the Republicans????

Jun 18, 2013
Tea party nationalism - this portion of report in particular compiles opinion polling data, documents examples of racist vitriol, etc... What else to add?

Jun 18, 2013
yet more evidence that this site is operated by nothing less than extreme left-wing liberal trolls. and the article being provided by Springer....I would have to assume that would be JERRY? and just because you can place it into a class, like social science, does not make it science, more like quackery.

Jun 18, 2013
The "science" you're looking for is social and political science. Its methods are similar to economics, as a science, relying on a lot of polling and statistical analysis, with scant room to do meaningful experiments. And this is science, whether you agree with its findings or not.

On a not unrelated topic, Physorg should turn off commenting on the articles they post. I can't recall the last time I saw a useful, educational or otherwise illuminating comment that wasn't a response to some previous commenter's idiocy.

Jun 18, 2013
Physorg should turn off commenting on the articles they post
You're not required to read it - or not? The Internet is full of BS - is this reason for to stop it? I admit, some topics are predestined to get more clueless discussions, than the other ones. The PhysOrg should remain focused to physics-related themes, because the politically motivated articles attract the social forums twaddlers, who will infest even the rest of serious discussions.

Jun 18, 2013
'Progressives' are attacking conservatives because they are effective and are making progress in spite of nearly all media and many govt agencies trying to stop them.
With science, eventually the facts will out.
Same goes for liberty and tyranny. Eventually the the tyrants will be toppled, but usually after much waste of life and property.

Jun 18, 2013
The not-so-hidden agenda of physorg, many here and Obama is Marxism:
"On September 11, 2012, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton did what collectivist tyrants do -- and then they did the other thing collectivist tyrants do, namely lie shamelessly about their actions. The facts, the witnesses, and the gaping holes in the administration's lies were all available from the outset. The "free press" pursued none of these, instead actively obfuscating the facts, burying the witnesses, and dutifully disseminating the lies. They wished to save the re-election campaign of inhuman creatures, and in doing so they masked the even deeper horror that full and immediate revelation might have exposed, namely that inhuman brutality is no anomaly among Marxist-progressives, but rather the raison d'être of progressivism itself."
http://www.americ...ion.html

Jun 18, 2013
"The "Young Pinkies" students drinking from "booze bottles of power" from very left-leaning socialist institutions of Columbia and Harvard Universities are riding in the "Democrat donkey" pulled apple cart, full of govt. dole - money, ridden and lead by Rexford Tugwell, former Economics Professor at Columbia and now Head of the FDR Resettlement Administration to relocate citizens. (Referring to as "Pinkies", the students are a "pink" color inside as their liberal political socialist beliefs are "red communist" beliefs hidden from the outside. Tugwell ran Federal Central Planning with a socialist program that redistributed people onto lands and into housing projects that majorly failed.)

http://peepholepo...ars.html
History repeats when the 'progressives' won't teach history.
Check out the cartoon from 1934.

Jun 18, 2013
Tea party nationalism - this portion of report in particular compiles opinion polling data, documents examples of racist vitriol, etc


Every group has racist, for example, democrats, NAACP members, people who wash cars for a living, physics cranks, muslims, etc.

The question is what are the principals and policies that the given group advocates. The Tea Party does not advocate racism, though you may find racists in that group, ....as you may in any other group.

It's really is not difficult to design such a poll based "study" to vilify any group one sets out to. That is in fact what is at the core of racism to begin with,... finding a few examples to justify applying bigotry to the whole of the identifiable group.

It is a means of preventing principled debates, by creating caricatures to feed to the uninitiated, to supplant own opinion . Clowns like Thrasymachus even wish Phys.Org didn't have comments, so that the corrupt slander goes unchallenged.

Jun 18, 2013
Every group has racist, for example, democrats
Of course, but we are talking here about statistics, higher-than-average numbers.

Jun 18, 2013
Every group has racist, for example, democrats
Of course, but we are talking here about statistics, higher-than-average numbers.


Where did you get your numbers, 'higher-than-average'? What questions were asked, and were they loaded? The people conducting the "study" already don't like the tea party, and the people buying into the fraud, already don't like the tea party. Do you not understand bias, which invalids such a "study" as propaganda.

Jun 18, 2013
First off according the Hezbollah Progressives, you are a racist IF any ONE of the following apply to YOU:
Didn't vote for Obama,
Didn't like Obama selling guns to drug lords (fast and furious),
Didn't like Obama giving tax payer money to his friends,
Didn't like Obama living like a King,
Didn't like Obama forcing Obama care on Americans,
Didn't like Obama bankrupting America,
Didn't like Obama promoting Gay Marriage,
Didn't like Obama destroying the economy of America,
Didn't like Obama blaming a video on the killing of American diplomats,
Didn't like Obama using the DOJ against reporters digging into Obama scandals,
Didn't like Obama using the IRS to go after his enemies,
In short if you are not a yes man to Obama, you are a racist.

Using that definition makes everyone in the tea party, according the Progressives, a racists.

Jun 18, 2013
I don't like any extremists. Tea Party Nationalism: A Critical Examination of the Tea Party Movement
and the Size, Scope, and Focus of Its National Factions. Why not to find similar a study about Democrats?
Obama bankrupting America, Obama destroying the economy of America
Everyone's is still remembering the crisis at the end of Bush's government... Do you think, that the current economical situation of USA is worse than that?

Jun 18, 2013
How about doing a study why Progressives have to make everything about Obama? Before the commencement ceremony many in the hard science department were taking bets how many times Obama's name would come up, and how many times a Progressive cause would be mentioned. (Thirteen times was my count)

Just like Homosexual Activists need to make everything about sex, Hezbollah Progressives need to make everything about Obama and Progressive Causes.

Jun 18, 2013
@physorg,,,

I usually don't criticize the articles ya put up, but I really would like to know how this is physics of any sort? I see that ya categorized it as "Other Sciences", what science would that be? Political analysis of polls is not what I would call science, that's why I have cable TV,,,, for that kind of stuff.

It's called Marxist Science.

Jun 18, 2013
Republican & Tea Party Racism

Most people who vote Republican no doubt vote out of belief that the Republican Party is the right choice and racist sentiments likely have absolutely no bearing on their decisions. However, it is well established that the Republican Party began catering to racist sentiments in the late 1960′s using tactics that still appear to be in practice.


Jun 18, 2013
I don't like any extremists.

How much evil, how much tyranny is acceptable?

"extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue"

And from A. Rand, when you compromise with evil, evil wins.

Jun 18, 2013
Republican Party began catering to racist sentiments in the late 1960′s

If not for Republicans in the 60s, the Civil Rights Act would not have passed.

Would it have been racist to oppose the Black Panthers in the 60s?
Is it racist for a black AG to refuse to prosecute voter intimidation by Black Panthers in Philly?
http://www.washin...880.html
What would have happened if any white person tried to intimidate any black voter?

Jun 18, 2013
How racist!

"Join Tea Party Patriots and many others for an Audit the IRS rally on the west lawn of the Capitol in Washington, DC on Wednesday, June 19, 2013 at high noon."
http://www.breitb...inst-IRS

Of course Obama is not the first president to use the IRS to intimidate opponents. Nixon, who was impeached did, Clinton, who was impeached, did.

Jun 18, 2013
The above "study" is clearly trying to supplant rational ideological reasons for being in 'opposition to Obama' with emotionally charged caricatures. Spoon fed propaganda to those who would rather hate the tea party than understand their positions.

How did they define what is "racist". Did they poll the general population and subtract that number? Did they do a like poll in the black community where racism towards white exists, and subtract that number and compare to the general population? What tea party policies attract racists in particular, and wouldn't it be necessary to answer that question to justify the claim that tea party members are in particular racist.

Fraud, bias, and corruption of the worse kind.

Jun 18, 2013
The not-so-hidden agenda of this article and physorg, prop up Obama:

"Last month only 37% believed the White House ordered the IRS to target conservative groups. Today, however, almost half the country -- 47% believe the same. Only 49% disagree.

Obama has lost Independents on this issue in a major way. Last month 36% believed the White House was behind the IRS harassment of Obama's political opponents. Today, that number has jumped 14 points to 50%. "
http://www.breitb...ea-Party

Jun 18, 2013
I have a theory about that. I think Physorg is run by some pretty smart young folks - who know that clicks earn them $$'s. So they bait the right wing trolls - who contact all their buddies in the echo chambers - and they all come over here and protest about the evil liberals - and put money in the pockets of the smart youg kids - who don't really give a shit about political affiliation - just clicks and $$'s. Just a theory. Of course it could be that the Physorg folks just love science - Nah - that is too simple....


So they either have zero integrity or don't even know that the above can't possibly be science on account of its obvious bias.

More, likely who ever posted this is definity young as you say, mentally immature in fact, and likely a know-nothing OWS type.

Jun 18, 2013
Why not to find similar a study about Democrats

Because it's already just soooooo obvious that Tea Parties are hotbeds of filth, crime, vandalism, rioting, defecation in public, intimidation, rape, murder, destruction of private and public property, arson, drug using and dealing, assault, obstruction of police, and even associated with bombmakers and perps that shoot at the White House.

Oh, wait...

That's the Occupiers, the real fake "grass roots" protests organized and promoted by Communists, Socialists, the SEIU, and Soros funded leftling groups. This list is only through 12/11:
http://www.breitb...--So-Far

Please provide a similar list of transgressions by the Tea Parties (leaving rally sites cleaner than when they got there don't count). Show your work.

Occupy was enthusiastically embraced by Obama himself and the Democratic Party, and the "unbiased" media while the TP were trashed without evidence.

Jun 18, 2013
"Pathetic garbage" - NumenTard

NumenTard is correct on this one.

TeaPublicans are pathetic garbage

Filth.

Jun 18, 2013
"Political analysis of public opinion polls is what kind of science?" - QTard

Political and social science.

Jun 18, 2013
Garbonza beans. Why separate the Tea Party from the balance of the Republicans? I'm quite sure that the racial prejudice exhibited bye the TP's is felt by a great many more Reps.

Jun 18, 2013
"The 'agenda' of the tea party is to hold all US public officials accountable to the oath they swore to support and defend the Constitution of the USA." - RyggTard

Morons like RyggTard feel that their own personal interpretation of the U.S. constitution is what their elected leaders must uphold.

It never occurs to mental dreks like RyggTard that they are violating their own constitution by ignoring the fact that the U.S. constitution assigns to the U.S. supreme court the soul authority to decide what is and is not constitutional.

If RyggTard and the other low life Conservatives in America were really interested in the U.S. constitution they would accept the authority and decisions of the Supreme Court in the interpretation of the constitution.

But they have no interest in that despite the fact that they honor their constitution.

What they are really interested in is overturning the vast majority of constitutional law which is impeding their greed, deceit and corruption.

Jun 18, 2013
"The tea party must be making progress as we now see the 'race' card being played." -
RyggTard

If you define "progress" as the poster boy of the TeaPublican non-party Rand Paul coming out for open borders for all - in direct opposition to TeaPartyDoctrine, then ya, I guess that is progress.

But that claim of progress would be a lie wouldn't it?

The TeaPublican non-party consists primarily of angry old white men who have done their best to destroy their own nation and are looking for someone else to blame it on.

Filth.


Jun 18, 2013
"Phys.Org should immediately remove this trash." - NumenTard

Better to remove the account of NumenTard, RyggTard and the other low life, anti-science vermin who are here.

Jun 18, 2013
Another indication of the success of the tea parties is the irrationality of the 'progressive' response to tea parties.
Instead of trying to defend their tyrannical socialist policies, they call people names.
Another political physorg article tries to indict businesses for eliminating their competition. We see here, now, how weak and inept 'progressives' are at defending socialist tyranny as they have been protected from competition for decades.

Jun 18, 2013
Young voters call GOP 'closed-minded,' 'racist,' and 'solely for the rich'

http://tv.msnbc.c...he-rich/

Here is a Republican who in a moment of clarity and honesty proclaims that his own party is full of racists.

"My party, unfortunately, is the bastion of those people not all of them, but most of them who are still basing their decisions on race. Let me be candid, my party is full of racists."

http://www.youtub...sZ_4fZoU

Jun 18, 2013
"The not-so-hidden agenda of this article and physorg, prop up Obama:" - RyggTard

Ya, the entire world is involved in an evil conspiracy to keep you Republicans down.

Have you considered why your kind of filth are near universally hated?

Do you think it could be your constant stream of lying, distortions and whining?


Jun 18, 2013
"Another indication of the success of the tea parties is the irrationality of the 'progressive' response to tea parties. " - RyggTard

http://brotherpea...blem.jpg

http://www.blueri...ism5.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_fnsOmb0Fvog/SegIYF_3X0I/AAAAAAAABWk/kRGybixxDiU/s400/pa-tea-party-obama.jpg

http://www.mother...bama.jpg

http://img.wonket...slin.jpg

http://cdn-ugc.ca...19228094


Jun 18, 2013
"Instead of trying to defend their tyrannical socialist policies, they call people names." -
RyggTard

Health Care for all Americans = Tyrannical socialist policies according to RyggTard.

Moronic Filth.


Jun 18, 2013
"Join Tea Party Patriots and many others for an Audit the IRS rally on the west lawn of the Capitol in Washington, DC on Wednesday, June 19, 2013 at high noon." - RyggTard

Republicans are so stupid, that the vast majority of them don't know that the interest it charges on loans to banks is returned to the Federal Government's, General Account.

Mindless... Morons....

There is stupid and then there is Republican stupid.

Jun 18, 2013
"If not for Republicans in the 60s, the Civil Rights Act would not have passed." - RyggTard

Very true.

I think it is a very good thing that over the decades that followed, Racism has become concentrated in the Republican party.

Jun 18, 2013
Yes Vendicar, the Democrats must love the impoverished since it is their policies that have created a system that keeps them from escaping from poverty.

Jun 18, 2013
MR166. It has for decades now been the goal of the Repubican party to "starve the beast" of government and produce as much poverty as possible through selling American Jobs to third world nations.

If poverty was a concern of Republicans then you would think they would have spend the 4 trillion that Bush's war crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan is costing America, and would have spent it on converting the U.S. power grid to solar rather than keeping the country dependent upon filthy coal, and dirty oil.

There have never in the history of mankind, been a dumber more corrupt group of Treasonous vermin than Modern Day Republicans.


Jun 18, 2013
Anti-Science Republicans try again to destroy NASA and American Science....

If the Republican-led House Subcommittee on Space has its way, NASA's proposed asteroid-retrieval mission will be killed, the agency's budget will be capped for the next two years at about 5 per cent less than last year's, and NASA's Earth observation efforts will be cut back by 30 percent.

Filth...

http://www.thereg...mission/

Jun 18, 2013
Maybe the tea party is just a bunch of people, exactly like me, trying to stop the trillions and trillions our government is over spending and has nothing to do with anyone's race, sex, or religion. But it never hurts to try and marginalize a political enemy's valid arguments with an idiotic accusation as is done here.

Jun 19, 2013
"Maybe the tea party is just a bunch of people, exactly like me, trying to stop the trillions and trillions our government is over spending" - DrTard

Where were you TeaTards when Bush was spending America into the ground while cutting the bank regulations and oversite which caused the greatest economic failure in U.S. history since the great depression?

Oh. ya... You were cheering bush on.

The simple fact of the matter is that without the trillions in "overspending" by the Obama administration, America would be 4 years into a decades long grand economic depression that would have dwarfed the economic pain felt by Americans over the last few years.

It has been real fun seeing TeaTard Morons demanding that cuts on the order of "trillions" be made overnight.

Those TeaPublican Morons aren't smart enough to realize that their proposed cuts would have raised U.S. unemployment rates to the 40 precent range, and truly bankupted the nation.

Perhaps the time has come to require some CONT

Jun 19, 2013
cont...

level of intellectual competence before someone is permotted to vote.

Americans need to find a way to import more mexicans and export the filthy TeaPublicans in their place.

The country would be a vastly smarter place for it.


Jun 19, 2013
Wow. Poking a bear with a stick! All these outraged comments. Interesting that most are directed at phys.org, rather than the study itself. I've got to wonder if these critics don't like the alleged bias of the site, why don't they just leave. Go somewhere else. Please.

You guys can set up your own site. Discuss how the climate isn't changing, the evils of fetal stem cells, how stupid it is to try to develop non-petro energy alternatives (perhaps how endless our supply of oil is), how young the Earth is and how man got along with the dinosaurs. Who knows, maybe how flat the Earth is and how fast the Universe revolves around it. And you can engage in all the trash talking you like.

To reiterate what was stated earlier, this article is social science. And social science is a science. That you don't like what these researchers are reporting is apparent. Also evident that you don't know how to effectively refute.

Jun 19, 2013
Interesting that most are directed at phys.org, rather than the study itself.

If you can't refute the message - kill the messenger.
It's been the standard procedure for despots and believers since the dawn of time.

Jun 19, 2013
"has nothing to do with anyone's race, sex, or religion."

So there would be no reason to feel there is a racist component to the tea party - correct Dr Who????


No reason to 'feel'?
What does 'feel' have to do with anything?
Significant leaders and supporters of tea parties are individuals. Some are women. Some are black women. Some are men. Some are black men....
All agree that the govt is too big and takes too much of every individual's liberty.
The 'progressives' are the ones selling snake oil socialism and need to divide individuals into classes to redirect their attention from the tyrants before them.
Tea parties are stating the obvious, " The tyrants have no clothes, have no substance and are destroying liberty and prosperity to keep themselves in power."

Jun 19, 2013
Vendicar how many riots and how much poverty will it take for you to understand that big government is the problem not the solution. As every government grows stronger it rewards it's innermost circle at the expense of the welfare of the periphery. The founding fathers of the US understood this well and did everything they could to limit the power of the central government.

Jun 19, 2013
I've got to wonder if these critics don't like the alleged bias of the site, why don't they just leave. Go somewhere else. Please.


This is a comment section. If Phys.Org does not want debates or counter opinion presented they can remove it. You're at least the 2nd person complaining that others are posting counter arguments and opinion, despite having provided yours.

If you knew anything about science, you would understand that such a study as presented above cannot possibly be unbiased, because obviously the very motive behind conducting the study in the first place, presumes a negative attitude toward the tea party.

It is yet another unprincipled ad homenim attack by the left who are trying to persuade their base not to even attempt to understand the tea party ideas. It's a old tactic to marginalize a group to stop their base from being influenced by principled ideas. They know they can't argue ideas, so they slander.

Jun 19, 2013
If Phys.Org does not want debates or counter opinion presented they can remove it.

Physorg doesn't moderate or even read the comments section (and hasn't for at least a year or so). Whining in the comments section about bias, typing errors or whatnot on behalf of physorg is like shouting in deep space - a waste of everybody's time.

Jun 19, 2013
It is yet another unprincipled ad homenim attack by the left who are trying to persuade their base not to even attempt to understand the tea party ideas. It's a old tactic to marginalize a group to stop their base from being influenced by principled ideas. They know they can't argue ideas, so they slander.


If those in science are not on the left, why are they so silent?

Jun 19, 2013
If Phys.Org does not want debates or counter opinion presented they can remove it.

Physorg doesn't moderate or even read the comments section (and hasn't for at least a year or so). Whining in the comments section about bias, typing errors or whatnot on behalf of physorg is like shouting in deep space - a waste of everybody's time.


I couldn't care less if Phys.Org reads or doesn't read the comment section. The comment section exists. When crankery and fraud is posted it gets challenged ,... just like you have done so to johanfprins and others. That the tea party organized as a backlash against a black president is complete stupidity and fraudulent slander.

Jun 19, 2013
Interesting that most are directed at phys.org, rather than the study itself.


What study are you referring to? Where is it? The only link that I see redirects one to spend $39.95 to buy it. The above write up is entirely devoid facts.

Jun 19, 2013
So, PhysOrg has decided that political hit pieces constitute "science" have they? Not surprising.

Jun 19, 2013
Of course its racial. Why do you think he was put into that position?

Obama had to take the responsibility for some very unpopular, very socialist, but nevertheless very essential Measures to prevent the total collapse of western economies.

Moderates would feel guilty for blaming a black man because it would make them look like bigots. Extremists who blamed him would naturally look like bigots for doing so.

It was a brilliant maneuver for a number of reasons, not the least of which being the comfort level of the latest influx of pragmatic, ambitious moslem immigrants who would best complement this melting pot of ours.

I always find the Methods of Those who Run Things breathtaking. But what would you expect from Leaders who get to choose from the very most capable of each generation to assist Them in Their Work?

Their Mission is survival and preservation of the species in its best form. Why would we expect anything less than Excellence?

Jun 19, 2013
Interesting that most are directed at phys.org, rather than the study itself.


What study are you referring to? Where is it? The only link that I see redirects one to spend $39.95 to buy it. The above write up is entirely devoid facts.
What, are you complaining about capitalism at work? Dont you think that people need to be PAID for the work they do?

Intellectual property does have value you know.

Jun 19, 2013
"I pray that Hillary decides to run for Pres. Would [be] most qualified person in modern history" - Angie Maxwell, one of the above propaganda authors.

Kinda of way over the top sentiment. If Hillary wasn't the wife of a former president, she would be bagging groceries.

She is clearly a "left winger" and has an aversion to the Tea Party, given some of her tweets,.. and thus is especially unqualified for conducting any meaningful 'disinterested' study of that group. Fraud.

Jun 19, 2013
Hillary is praised by 'progressive' for marrying into power and given a pass for failing with that power.
Palin earned her elected positions and is attacked by 'progressives'.
The NAGS (national association of gals) , like the NAALCP (national association for the advancement of 'liberal' colored people) only accept 'liberals' and if a woman or black is not a 'liberal', they are heretics and must be pilloried.

Jun 19, 2013
The comment section exists. When crankery and fraud is posted it gets challenged ,...

Yup, and I hereby challenge you to support your claim of bias that you think is part of this paper.

They asked a legitimate question and made a legitimate survey and then presented the results. Whether you like them or not doesn't matter. But saying they're biased just because you don't like the results isn't terribly convincing.

Jun 19, 2013
If you can't refute the message - kill the messenger. It's been the standard procedure for despots and believers since the dawn of time.
It would sound nice, if only you wouldn't act here many years in the same way regarding the messages about AWT and/or another ideas violating established paradigm.

Jun 19, 2013
""When will there be an honest conversation about poverty and racism and inequality that hinders the delivery of an education product in our school system? When will we address the fact that rich white people think they know what's in the best interest of children of African-Americans and Latinos, no matter what the parents' income or education level?" she asked."
http://chicago.cb...roblems/
Chicago, whose mayor used to work for Obama, and is Obama's hometown is 'liberal' and according to the 'liberal' Chicago teacher's union president, racist.

Jun 19, 2013
They had better not get rid of the comments section. I will be very pissed off if they do. Hate is fun.


Jun 19, 2013
Interesting that most are directed at phys.org, rather than the study itself.


What study are you referring to? Where is it? The only link that I see redirects one to spend $39.95 to buy it. The above write up is entirely devoid facts.
What, are you complaining about capitalism at work? Dont you think that people need to be PAID for the work they do?

Intellectual property does have value you know.


I'm not complaining that they are selling it. Please read the post I was responding to.

Jun 19, 2013
The comment section exists. When crankery and fraud is posted it gets challenged ,...


Yup, and I hereby challenge you to support your claim of bias that you think is part of this paper.


I already did that above, pay attention. The fact that the authors are left wing and politically motivated, de facto means they are biased (toward their political opposition, conservatives). i.e. inclination of temperaments or outlook to present or hold a partial perspective at the expense of possibly equally valid alternatives in reference to objects, people, or groups,... lacking in a neutral point of view.

The authors are not social scientists. They are left wing political scientists and experts at propaganda.

Jun 19, 2013
IOW, they a-priori disliked the Tea Party before conducting their "research". They wrapped a "study" around their preexisting aversion to that group.

If they linked a specific policy acknowledge as advocated by the tea party with a clearly defined form of racism, then they can make a case. Just doing loaded question polls and interpreting those results subjectivity as to what is racist, is meaningless non-sense.,.. and is just going through the motions so they can say " the tea party are just a bunch of racists, don't listen to them".

If anyone knows anything about American politics , the charge of racism is thrown around at the drop of a hat in most cases without any rational justification. The charge only works as a political weapon against those who are not racist and don't want to be known as such.

Jun 19, 2013
I'm not complaining that they are selling it. Please read the post I was responding to.
I did. And it is not clear if you are criticizing physorg for not providing you with facts for free that you should rightfully be paying for.

Jun 19, 2013
"Chicago, whose mayor used to work for Obama, and is Obama's hometown is 'liberal' and according to the 'liberal' Chicago teacher's union president, racist." - RyggTard

As usual. RyggTard is reading words that don't exist. He has a significant problem with honesty.

On the other hand...

Young voters call GOP 'closed-minded,' 'racist,' and 'solely for the rich'

http://tv.msnbc.c...he-rich/

Republican admits that his party is full of racists....

http://www.youtub...sZ_4fZoU

Jun 19, 2013
What the ConservaTards are really whining about here is the fact that Reality and Science have a strong Liberal Bias.

After they were trounced in the last Federal Election you would think that they would realize how perverted, distorted and unreal their view of the world really is.

But Conservatives are incapable of learning.

RyggTard is a particularly effective example of Conservative idiocy.


Jun 19, 2013
"I'm not complaining that they are selling it." - NumenTard

And now the dishonest Conservative whiner denies that he was whining.

Filth.


Jun 19, 2013
"The fact that the authors are left wing and politically motivated" - NumenTard

The fact that NumenTard is a space alien bent on the Earth's destruction is proof that he is a space alien bent on the destruction of the world.

When RepubliTards aren't just lying they are assuming what they wish to be true and then proclaiming it as such.

He is such a Moron.

That is why they need to audit the corruption at the corrupt Federal Reserve.

Morons.

Jun 19, 2013
VD, you and other Hezbollah Progressives do nothing but lie. I was just at a university commencement last week. Most people in the real science, math, physics, chemistry, engineering, etc. are conservatives. Probably the reason more conservatives are in the real science is that it is hard and it does require discipline.
Almost all people in the soft (easy - lazy science according to the Hard Science Professors) are lazy progressives.

Jun 19, 2013
Question. Which group of protestors would you want to be in front of your business you own or residence.
1. Gay rights protestors. (you'll see nudity and sex, have condoms spread around, and your place is left trashed)
2. OWS. (You'll see nudity and sex, people defecating on cars, and your place is left trashed)
3. Union protest. (Violence and your place will be trashed)
4. Environmentalist group. (Boring however your place will be trashed.)
5. TEA Party Protestors. (Boring, however the place will be cleaner than when they started.)

Name ANY progressive protest group that leaves the place they protest in better shape than when they find it..... waiting..... My son has has asked me why environmentalist when they protest leave the place trashed.....

Jun 19, 2013
Maybe I'll do a study and conclude that groups 1 - 4 are gross and smelly. Shouldn't be difficult to scrap up enough facts.

"The fact that the authors are left wing and politically motivated" - My Superior Noumenon


The fact that NumenTard is a space alien bent on the Earth's destruction is proof that he is a space alien bent on the destruction of the world.


Umm nice logic there, LOL. That propaganda was specially brewed for spooning feeding mushheads like you. Are you full yet?

Only a mush headed liberal would make use of the logic of bigotry to insinuate bigotry.

Jun 19, 2013
Noum, perhaps we can convince a university to fund a study into:
Which groups are more violent, Progressives groups or Conservative groups.
Which groups have more terrorists in them, Progressive groups or Conservative groups.
Which groups trash protest areas more, Progressive groups or Conservative groups.
Which groups have more rapes, assaults, and crime during a protest, Progressive groups or Conservative groups.
Which groups tolerate criminals and criminal activities, Progressive groups or Conservative groups.

Jun 19, 2013
How about a study, Which is safer, for Obama to be in a middle of a Tea Party rally, or Sara Palin to be in a middle of a OWS demonstration?
I would bet Obama would be safer without the Secret Service in a NRA rally than Sara Palin in an anti gun rally.
I would bet Obama would be safer without the Secret Service in a Pro-Life rally than Sara Palin at a Planned Parenthood rally.

VD, If I needed to personally protect Obama, give him sanctuary in my home, or give my life to save Obama I would, even though I believe he is the worst president in modern history. VD or any Progressive on this board, Would you give your life for Bush or Palin?

How many people truly believe that VD or most Hezbollah Progressives are caring and loving individuals?

Jun 19, 2013
VD or any Hezbollah Progressives on this board. I issue you a challenge. If you go to a gay rights rally and hold up a sign saying I support Traditional Marriage, or go to a planned parenthood rally and hold up a sign saying I am Pro-Life, if you are beaten up, spit on, shot, ruffed up in anyway you will admit on this board that Progressives are haters.

I'll go to a traditional marriage rally with a sign saying I support Gay Marriage, or I'll go to a Pro-Life rally and hold up a sign saying I'm Pro-Choice. Heck, I'll even go to a NRA meeting and say I support gun confiscation. If I'm verbally assaulted, beaten up, spit on, or ruffed up in anyway I'll come on this board and say conservatives are haters.

Which groups are move civil? Progressives keep saying Conservative are dangerous... VD or any Progressives, will take me up on this challenge??????


Jun 19, 2013
"Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach (R) compared the tactics used by hundreds of protesters who marched on his home over the weekend to "KKK-type of intimidation" on the Glenn Beck radio program Tuesday.

Targeted for his work on combating illegal immigration, Kobach has certainly faced opposition in the past, but it has always been in public locations. Now, he says, "the left has crossed a line" by surrounding his home."
http://www.thebla...an-laws/
"The Ku Klux Klan was founded Dec. 24, 1865 by Democrats for the sole purpose of terrorizing Republicans. They lynched 3,466 Blacks and 1,297 Whites. It was not just about race, it was about intimidation and control. "

Jun 19, 2013
"that those possessing altruism bias would be most strongly biased to object to the very concept of altruism bias. Research has shown the near impossibility of reaching biased individuals using rational approaches, no matter their level of education or intelligence; such attempts can be likened to squaring the circle. "
http://reason.com...o-hell-r

Jun 19, 2013
Rygg, the left has no objection to using intimidation, threats, and even violence, which is why I call them Hezbollah Progressives. This term was coined by a Persian Friend of mine who hates the Hezbollah's and sees their tactics being used by the Progressives here in the USA.

When groups use terror tactics, call them what they are.

Jun 19, 2013
left has no objection to using intimidation, threats, and even violence


"The US government's secret seizure of Associated Press phone records had a "chilling effect" on newsgathering by the agency and other news organizations, AP's top executive said Wednesday."
http://www.france...chilling

Jun 19, 2013
If Hillary wasn't the wife of a former president, she would be bagging groceries.

She's an attorney and you're seemingly a sexist.

Jun 19, 2013
Rygg, the left has no objection to using intimidation, threats, and even violence, which is why I call them Hezbollah Progressives. This term was coined by a Persian Friend of mine who hates the Hezbollah's and sees their tactics being used by the Progressives here in the USA.

When groups use terror tactics, call them what they are.
Given you see angels and reanimated zombie Jews everywhere, please pardon my utter disregard for your friend's analogy along with other religious tripe

Jun 19, 2013
If Hillary wasn't the wife of a former president, she would be bagging groceries.

She's an attorney and you're seemingly a sexist.


Now you see, straight off you feel the need to come to the defense of whom you unconsciously view as inferior, women. This is typical of the far left. Their racism is likewise subliminal and implicite in their perpetual victimhood scam.

I was exaggerating to say that she would be entirely unknown to anyone and that she has accomplished nothing but by virtue of being Mrs. Clinton, much less being "the most qualified in modern times". Even she admits this fact by not promptly divorcing Bill after X'th affair. Even less than G.W.Bush in fact.

Jun 20, 2013
If Hillary wasn't the wife of a former president, she would be bagging groceries.

She's an attorney and you're seemingly a sexist.

Where is she licensed to practice?
And aren't lawyers supposed to be truthful? As Secretary of State she, and others, lied and continue to lie about Libya.

Jun 20, 2013
And aren't lawyers supposed to be truthful? As Secretary of State she, and others, lied and continue to lie about Libya.
They're all working for the banksters, rygg. If a democrat is employed by Raytheon, do you think he will object to doing his daily work based on principle? Remember the banksters are too big to fail, and prosecuting their crimes would "THREATEN THE ECONOMY"

Jun 20, 2013
Any progressives agree with this?
http://www.france...chilling

If Bush did this, the media (aka the propaganda arm of the Progressives), would be screaming at the top of their lungs, Progressives would be marching in the streets.

Hezbollah Progressives are nothing but Hypocrites.

Jun 21, 2013
Freethunk askes
...the media (aka the propaganda arm of the Progressives),
Umm. No. You have a very screwed up notion of what propaganda is. Progressives tend to lay out fact and reason and argue within bounds of facts and reason, which is not propaganda. However, the rightwing, conservative, teaparty, wingnuts, fruits and cakes that spew junk like you do, ARE propagandists. Which is why you are hear posting, isn't it? To spread your propaganda?

Jun 21, 2013
The Tardieboy Wingnuts of the TeaPublican party were shocked by the last U.S. presidential election.

They had been telling themselves for over a year that they had the election won by a landslide.

When election day came, they LOST by a landslide.

They had been lying to themselves all along.

FreeTards are like that. They insist that they are free to create their own facts.

The universe holds another opinion on that matter, and that is why to them, Science and reality has a strong Liberal Bias.

Jun 21, 2013
"Any progressives agree with this? " - FreeTard

"The AP has said US authorities appeared to have sought out the records as part of a criminal investigation into leaked information contained in a May 2012 AP story about a foiled terror plot." - FreeTard's own link

I have no problem with the U.S. government investigation a crime.

Why do you FreeTard?

Perhaps you should turn your attention to laws that criminalize communication.

You know, like the laws you supported last month that make it a crime to communicate industrial trade secrets,,,,


Jun 21, 2013
VD, your a hypocrite just like other Hezbollah progressives. You are seriously asking if I object to investigating crimes. Lets see, I stand for truth, honor, integrity, that all people are treated equally, for the constitution, and I demand it of my leaders. Hezbollah progressive such as you have no issues with lying, cheating, intimidation, perversion, attacking honest people, attacking the constitution, and your leaders have problem defining what is is, leave women to die, have no issues sending private part pictures to strangers, admitting to beating women, taking dope, appointing pedophiles to head the Department of Education, giving guns to drug runners, planting bombs that kill people then making them professors, have no mercy of babies born alive after failed abortion, indeed have no issues sticking scissors into the brains of a breathing half born child, and on and on it goes.

VD, Your are a hypocrite

Jun 21, 2013
Progressives tend to lay out fact and reason and argue within bounds of facts and reason

When? Where?
I have seen no facts or reason offered by 'progressives' here or on any of their propaganda outlets.

Jun 21, 2013
"VD, your a hypocrite just like other Hezbollah progressives. " - FreeTard

You just have to read the first sentence and you know hat the person writing is a mentally ill TeaPublican.

you just can't fake that kind of brain death.

Jun 21, 2013
"When? Where? " - RyggTard

Almost all the time, and all most everywhere.

You just don't notice because you spend your days in a ConservaTard bubble inhaling your own feces.

Jun 21, 2013
Rygg, is it because VD is a typical Hezbollah Progressive that he is obsessed about excrement or is there other reasons?

Jun 21, 2013
Ovomit is the biggest fraud ever. Kenyan-born Barry Soetoro/Obama has destroyed the economy and the reputation of our country on purpose. Hang him high...

Jun 21, 2013
Rygg, is it because VD is a typical Hezbollah Progressive that he is obsessed about excrement or is there other reasons?

I ignore VD.
This piece describes 'liberals' quite well:

http://www.jewish...3/06/20/

Jun 21, 2013
Progressives tend to lay out fact and reason and argue within bounds of facts and reason

When? Where?
I have seen no facts or reason offered by 'progressives' here or on any of their propaganda outlets.
Physorg is a "propaganda outlet" now, ryggie?

Jun 21, 2013
"Physorg is a "propaganda outlet" now, ryggie?

Kochevnik you have to understand that propaganda is not so much what you print as much as it is what you don't print. If you heavily favor one side of a agenda you become a "propaganda outlet" and cease being a news outlet.

Jun 21, 2013
"Better off stateless:
Somalia before and after government collapse"
"If state predation goes unchecked government may
not only fail to add to social welfare, but can actually reduce welfare below its level under statelessness.
Such was the case with Somalia's government, which did more harm to its citizens than good. "
http://www.peterl...less.pdf

Jun 21, 2013
Progressives tend to lay out fact and reason and argue within bounds of facts and reason

When? Where?
I have seen no facts or reason offered by 'progressives' here or on any of their propaganda outlets.
Physorg is a "propaganda outlet" now, ryggie?


The rightwing, conservative, teaparty, wingnuts, fruits and cakes really never think anything through except how it will effect themselves. Everyone knows that a progressive will get more done in a shorter time with community support, over the rightwing who try to exclude the community.

Jun 21, 2013
Everyone knows that a progressive will get more done in a shorter time with community support,

Typical.
Socialists always blame their failures on the wrong leader.
What does a 'progressive' want to 'get done'?
Before the 'progressive' era, individuals created mutual aid societies to 'get things' done. Trouble is, they were quite successful without govt coercion.
Eventually, guilds, like medical doctors, used state laws to prohibit doctros from working in successful mutual aid hospitals.
And what we have now is govt run doctors that are expensive and provide bad care.
"The first major blow against fraternalism occurred when the American Medical Association gained control of the licensing of medical schools. In 1912, a number of state medical boards formed the Federation of State Medical Boards, which accepted the AMA's ratings of medical schools as authoritative."
http://mises.org/daily/5388

Jun 22, 2013
R2, everyone knows there is nothing dumber than a freaking republican. Your libertaria-con-job is nothing but BS. Same old. I've never seen a Libertarian community activist. In fact, I never met a libertarian that wasn't all wrapped up in their own self importance.

If you want to know, the labor movement (the lefties) and it's efforts have done more to improve America's capabilities, strengths and economy than anything ever, EVER put forth by republicans, libertarians or the neo-con anarchist that you seem to be. It was labor that "created mutual aid societies to 'get things' done."

All the tea party has done is gotten groups of angry old white people together to have red-neck bitch-sessions about Obama being born in Kenya! Or bitch sessions about Obama-care or any number of useless discussion points. It's either that or they have a social agenda the de-humanizes everyone with the least bit of sympathy to family on food stamps, black or white!

Are these people animals?

Jun 22, 2013
Of course in US there are civil libertarians (progressives) and economic libertarians (Koch&bankster ponzi schemers) who only share a name

Jun 22, 2013
"it because VD is a typical Hezbollah Progressive" - FreeTard

On Sunday's Freetard spends his days marching up and down main street, wearing a sandwich board and screaming to his fellow citizens on the shape shifting grey alien invasion, the evil of flouridation and the commie hoard that is eating America alive.

He needs to get back on his meds.

Jun 22, 2013
In the U.S. there has been no group (LESS) fiscally rational than the Republicans and no group (MORE) fiscally conservative than the Democrats.

As has been well documented, for decades, the stated Republican and Libertarian plan has been to bankrupt America.

The Republican/Libertarian plan has been to "starve the beast" of big government through national fiscal bankruptcy.

Treason.

Jun 22, 2013
"Are these people animals? " - HowHot

Worthless animals... Yes.

Fortunately they are a dying breed and this TeaPublican nonsense is their last kick at the can before they expire.

America will be vastly better off when they are 6 feet under.

Jun 22, 2013
"Socialists always blame their failures on the wrong leader." - Ryggtard

Where are those Iraqi WMD again TardieBoy?

Jun 22, 2013
"I ignore VD." - RyggTard

You also ignore reality.

That is why everyone here considers you a moron.

Despite your self imposed ignorance, reality persists.

And so do I.

Jun 22, 2013
civil libertarians (progressives)

The ones that use the IRS to intimidate their oppoenents, spy on reporters who are working on stories they don't like and us the NSA to blackmail?
Typical of socialists, aka 'progressives'.
The gov of TX had to pass a law to make it LEGAL to say 'Merry Christmas'.

Jun 22, 2013
labor movement (the lefties) and it's efforts have done more to improve America's capabilities, strengths and economy than anything ever,


Remind Detroit and California, which is controlled by govt unions.

t was labor that "created mutual aid societies to 'get things' done."

Is that why govts force workers to join unions?
they have a social agenda the de-humanizes everyone

The 'progressives' only dehumanize babies so they can be killed before being born and old people so they have have doctors kill them, and, of course, anyone who disagrees with them so they can call them names.

Jun 22, 2013
" 'I Was Brought Up in the Tea Party'"
"She said that she wasn't taught the trinity of "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" growing up, but instead learned a different one: "Democrats, skin color, and gender." There was very little "God, country, and family" during her upbringing, but there was a whole lot of "bitch, moan, and whine," she said. "
"she suggested that the Tea Party will have a central role in creating that America. Johnson appeared on a panel of black conservatives Friday night on Fox News' "Hannity" and emphasized that she was more conservative than Republican because the Tea Party primarily influenced her political beliefs. "
""where are blacks in the Tea Party?"

She suggested Republicans needed to point out liberal movements—like Occupy Wall Street—do not have a large black presence.

"Where are the blacks in the Occupy movement?" "
http://www.breitb...ea-Party

Jun 22, 2013
The 'progressive' way, break the law.

" The Democrats had been badly shaken by the Republican comeback of 2010. They feared a repeat in 2012 that would lose them the White House.

Might targeting the tea-party groups—diverting them, keeping them from forming and operating—seem a shrewd campaign strategy in the years between 2010 and 2012? Sure. Underhanded and illegal,"
http://blogs.wsj....a-party/

Power is so important to 'progressives' they will do ANYTHING to keep it.

Jun 22, 2013
In reality Progressives abhor freedom since true freedom includes the right for some to succeed and others to fail on their own merits. They do not view freedom as fair and must do everything in their power snuff it out whenever it rears it's ugly head.

Jun 22, 2013
What 'progressives' have wrought:

"Economic reality, such as Detroit's shrinking population and tax base, does impose a limit: Once all the blood is squeezed from the stone, you are unsecured."

Cutting Detroit income and property taxes so that they're competitive with surrounding areas is critical to reversing crippling population and job losses, Orr said in his report. "
http://www.bloomb...ngs.html

"Since a federal judge ruled in April that Stockton, Calif., can pursue bankruptcy protection, the question has been which of the state's fiscally troubled cities will be next. These 10 are facing the kind of serious financial stress that sent Stockton and several other cities toward bankruptcy."
Atwater, Azuza, Compton, Fresno, Hercules, Mammoth Lakes, Monrovia, Oakland, San Jose, Vernon,
http://www.usatod...2076217/

Jun 22, 2013
SCIENCE 2.0
It sort of smells like science but with all the fun of an insane religious cult.

Jun 22, 2013
Racist 'liberals':
"The most dangerous place for an African Ameircan is in the womb."
http://blackgenoc...ome.html

Jun 22, 2013
"In the surest sign that the liberal/progressive journalist special forces aligned to protect President Obama and the prospective candidacy of Hillary Clinton are beginning to fear the rise of Sen. Rand Paul, founding member of Journ-o-list and darling of the "Juice Box Mafia" Matt Yglesias defamed the Kentucky Republican Senator as a "white supremacist" Thursday on Twitter:"
http://www.breitb...remacist

"Byrd joined the Klan at the ripe young age of 24 — hardly a young'un by today's standards, much less those of 1944, when Byrd refused to join the military because he might have to serve alongside "race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds," according to a letter Byrd wrote to Sen. Theodore Bilbo at the height of World War II.

Read more: http://dailycalle...X0SO8ipg
Byrd was a 'progressive'.

Jun 23, 2013
Byrd changed his ways, and not coincidentally he changed parties. He had the highest rating from the NAACP of any senator at the time of his death.

I suggest you look up Strom Thurmond. He was a racist until the end but switched from the Democrats to the Republicans during the Civil Rights movement. I wonder why.

Jun 23, 2013
not coincidentally he changed parties.

When did Byrd switch parties?

I suggest you look up Artur Davis and Elbert L. Guillory from Louisiana.

Jun 23, 2013
Racist 'liberals':
"The most dangerous place for an African Ameircan is in the womb."
If they were trapped in some womb, like that of a blue whale, I assume any person could work their way out. Nice image, ryggie. No, the most dangerous place for anyone to be is under the care of a crazy libertarian

Jun 23, 2013
"The ones that use the IRS to intimidate their oppoenents, spy on reporters who are working on stories they don't like and us the NSA to blackmail?" - RyggTard

Sorry TardieBoy, but that isn't a sentence.

Shouldn't the IRS be targeting the legions of Republicans who claim they have no legal obligation to pay taxes, for investigation?

Rational people think they should.

Why don't Repubicans who claim they don't pay taxes?

Jun 23, 2013
"The most dangerous place for an African Ameircan is in the womb."

Why is it that rates of Abortion, child molestation, and pornography consumption are highest among Conservative American Christians?

Jun 23, 2013
"Remind Detroit and California, which is controlled by govt unions." - RyggTard

Everyone knows that California's economic problems are primarily the result of State Republicans who hold enough votes to prevent the increase in taxes needed to reduce the state deficit, combined with the actions of Federal Republicans who have done their best to move as many manufacturing jobs out of California and to the Pacific Rim.

Detroit is just a dying city that put it's faith in the viability of the U.S. auto industry and was stabbed in the back by that very same industry.

Capitalists are inherently untrustworthy and dishonest.

Jun 23, 2013
"Cutting Detroit income and property taxes so that they're competitive with surrounding areas is critical to reversing crippling population and job losses, Orr said in his report." - RyggTard

Orr, appointed by Republican Governor Rick Snyder to oversee Michigan's largest city, proposed a deal last week that included skipping a $39.7 million payment on pension-obligation debt.

Orr is just another Republican who refuses to pay his debts.

That is the Republican plan for America as well. Cut and Run from the massive debts they have created. Blame others for their own borrow and spend folly.

Jun 23, 2013
"Since a federal judge ruled in April that Stockton, Calif., can pursue bankruptcy protection, the question has been which of the state's fiscally troubled cities will be next." - RyggTard

Yup, and the blame rests at the feet of California Republicans who have done their best to bankrupt their own state.

Their plan is known as "Starve the Beast"

Jun 23, 2013
RyggTard fails to post the following from his own link...

SLATE'S YGLESIAS CALLS RAND PAUL 'WHITE SUPREMACIST'

In broader context, Paul's musings on Jim Crow are probably driven by his white supremacist leanings.

He seems to specifically not regard African-Americans as worthy of any consideration at all.

Why did RyggTard leave those lines out of a 4 paragraph piece?

Answer. Because his goal is misrepresentation.

Jun 23, 2013
And again from RyggTard's own link.

"The data show that had the Tea Party groups continued to grow at the pace seen in 2009 and 2010, and had their effect on the 2012 vote been similar to that seen in 2010, they would have brought the Republican Party as many as 5-8.5 million votes compared to Obama's victory margin of 5 million.""

But the TeaTards didn't give the Republcans those 5 million more votes. and the reason for it is quite clear...

There is a limit to the number of stupid old Republican white men in America.

The TeaPublican party fell flat on it's face during the last election cycle, and despite the "Ra-Ra" of RyggTards article from Conservative Bubble land, reality is defined by real events. And those events from the last election cycle were the political defeat of a very large number of TeaPublicans who had been voted into office just a few years before.

The Electorate realized that they had voted a Extremist Republican Moron into office and he was promptly removed

Jun 23, 2013
"Byrd was a 'progressive'." - RyggTard

Who renounced his racist past and became a Democrat.

He earned my respect as a result.

Did he earn yours?


Jun 23, 2013
Another defeat for American Conservatives...

Gay "Conversion" Ministry Apologizes, Disbands

A Christian group devoted to so-called gay "conversion" has closed its doors and apologized to the LGBT community. Exodus International had billed itself as the oldest Christian ministry devoted to the practice of trying to shame gay people into changing their sexual orientation. In an open letter to LGBT people who underwent its practices, Exodus International president Alan Chambers said the group was part of a "system of ignorance,"

http://www.democr...eadlines

Jun 24, 2013
labor movement (the lefties) and it's efforts have done more to improve America's capabilities, strengths and economy than anything ever,


Remind Detroit and California, which is controlled by govt unions.

t was labor that "created mutual aid societies to 'get things' done."

Is that why govts force workers to join unions?
they have a social agenda the de-humanizes everyone

The 'progressives' only dehumanize babies so they can be killed before being born and old people so they have have doctors kill them, and, of course, anyone who disagrees with them so they can call them names.


Of course R2 goes all nuclear about Detroit and it's decent into economic turmoil from the W. Bush admin and the typical republican lack of concern to dehumanizing vast infrastructures by the unregulated pull out of capital from a thriving city. California BTW, is doing fine fruitcake.

Jun 24, 2013
Remind Detroit and California, which is controlled by govt unions.
You know, only a real ALEC pocket pussy would complain about govt unions which have be a solid foundation of government trust between the people and it's citizenry for a century or more. It is ridiculous to blame labor when the only issue is corporations lack of duty to it's citizenry, place and environment to provide accommodation of a few cents to shareholders.

Something is really screwed up in the good-old USofA if somehow labor is the cause of the issues with America. I can tell you, it's certainly not labor. No. It's you guys that F-ed up the whole deal!

Heck we let you all have W as a president without a riots or court-battles for the good of the nation, and you drill us into war, deregulate everything, totally tank the economy, destroy the unions, piss-off on any environmental issue and make sh-t miserable for everyone. And you fight Obama on every little step forward. Enjoy what comes R2.

Jun 24, 2013
The authors wrote, "Clearly, an African-American, mixed-race, liberal President may trigger ..."

What 'liberal' President are they talking about, again?

President Obama has continued and extended most of the policies of his predecessor, appointed conservatives to key positions, defied liberal aims for health care reform, placed Wall Street bankers in charge of Wall Street regulation. His foreign policy is based on assassinations. He has expanded Bush's spying on Americans, gone after whistleblowers with a vengeance, dragged his feet on closing Gitmo, ramped up the drug war...

Looks like a smarter, more articulate version of Bush to me.

This country has not seen an actual liberal in the Presidency since Kennedy. Johnson? Pro-corporate hawk. Carter? Conservative Southern Democrat. Clinton? Pragmatist who sold out to wealthy donors on Wall Street. Obama? Clinton imitator. Why do so many in mainstream media and academia pretend he's a liberal?

Jun 24, 2013
A list of people that were not likely surveyed for this article:
DR.BENJEMIN CARSON SR, DIRECTOR OF PEDIATRIC NEUROSERGERY JOHNS HOPKINS HOSPITAL, BISHOP COUNCIL NEDD II, PROJECT 21 MEMBER;CHARLES LOLLAR, CHAIRMAN, NEW DAY MARYLAND PAC; DAVID WEBB, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST; KEVIN MARTIN, PROJECT 21 MEMBER; REGINALD JONES, PROJECT 21 MEMBER

REV CL BRYANT, "RUNAWAY SLAVE" CREATOR

RON CHRISTIE, FORMER BUSH ADVISOR

STACY SWIMP, PROJECT 21 SPOKESMAN

WAYNE BRADLEY, "THE WAYNE BRADLEY SHOW" HOST

CRYSTAL WRIGHT, EDITOR, CONSERVATIVE BLACK CHICK

DENEEN BORELLI, FREEDOMWORKS DIRECTOR AND FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR -

ERICA DRAYTON, BLOGGER, ACTIVIST, WRITER

JADA JACKSON COLLINS, AUTHOR, LIFE COACH AND COMMUNICATOR KARL

MILLER, CONSERVATIVE WRITER, EXAMINER.COM & REDSTATE.COM

KEVIN JACKSON, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, THE BLACK SPHERE

LESLI BROWER, CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE

STAR PARKER, PRESIDENT, CURE

CAROL SWAIN, VANDERBILT UNIVERSITY PROFESSOR

JASON RILEY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR


Jun 24, 2013
defied liberal aims for health care reform,

What are these aims?
The intent of Obamacare is to nationalize/socialize health care.
That is not 'liberal' enough for you?
govt unions which have be a solid foundation of government trust between the people and it's citizenry for a century or more.

FDR was OPPOSED to any govt workers union basically siting conflict of interest.
Detroit and it's decent into economic turmoil from the W. Bush

Typical. Blame Bush and ignore the decades of corruption by the sociologists leading MI and Detroit.
California BTW, is doing fine

Compared to what, Cuba? "California's dilemma: Remain a 'basket-case' state economy or become more like North Dakota?" http://www.aei-id...-dakota/
Read more at: http://phys.org/n...html#jCp

Jun 24, 2013
unregulated pull out of capital from a thriving city.

That IS the socialists solution. FORCE people to keep THEIR money in a failing city so the govt can continue to plunder.
Fortunately socialist cities can't 'nationalize' companies like Cuba or Venezuela did.

Jun 24, 2013
Government Unions, a great Progressive scam. Government Unions are nothing more than a arm of the Democrats. Government Unions are the foot soldiers, fund raisers, leakers of government information against Democrats enemies. What is worse is that tax payers that pay for this.

IF Government can be trusted, then why do the workers who run the Government need a union.

Free the country, disband Government Unions.

Jun 24, 2013
One thing I wonder about is how many Hezbollah Progressives are on this board.

For example known sock puppeteer VD, will most likely be voted up by and mostly in the same order by deepsand, sinister1811 8 ball and 6 of 28.

It's always interesting that these other names crop up most often in the same order. Could this be the same consensus that Prophet, or is that profit Al Gore keeps talking about? Or could this be the same WE as Obama keeps speaking about.

Remember Progressives love to lie, cheat, steal, vote, and vote often.

Jun 24, 2013
"The authors conclude, "Clearly, an African-American, mixed-race, liberal President may trigger symbolic racism and even racial stereotypes among the population at large."

What a preposterous conclusion presented here, sans actual facts. Is this coming from the academic research wing of the IRS? This is simply one more article from the"left" using their long litany of disingenuous propositions...playing their "race" card yet again. Even a mediocre comic has more one liners than this bunch. This time it's done under the guise of academic research. The only thing "clear" here is that these profoundly dim witted academics are allowed to waste money and get away with it in public. CLEARLY it's time for these two to have their pay docked while an investigation determines what nitwit let them out of school prematurely.


Jun 24, 2013
R2 makes another BS claim;
FDR was OPPOSED to any govt workers union basically siting conflict of interest.
which is typical of the right-wing mind. Somewhere they think they heard this, or they just make up a lie and see if it will stick. Here is what FDR actually said about govt works unions; "". Nothing not a damn thing.

Here is what FDR said in general about an American Citizen's rights;
"It is now beyond partisan controversy that it is a fundamental individual right of a worker to associate himself with other workers and to bargain collectively with his employer." FDR.


Of course the primary reason of government unions is to provide some protection from an every changing political leadership, and to establish professionalism and structure in government work. I don't know about your state, but in ours, every fed gov work I've met has always been a top notch professional. Same with the state works too. It would be awful to loose these folk to appease R2.

Jun 24, 2013
An idiot tea-party wingnut fool said
Remember Progressives love to lie, cheat, steal, vote, and vote often.
Well we only learned it from you. It dates back to Nixon. Or are you such a dim-bulb as to not know the history of your own party.

Jun 25, 2013
People of Liberty party leader convicted of illegal relations with Child Prostitutes.

My, my... How Libertarian/Randite of him.

http://news.yahoo...697.html

Jun 25, 2013
"Somewhere they think they heard this, or they just make up a lie and see if it will stick." - HowHot

Yup. RyggTard lies all the time. Lying is a way of life for Libertarians/Randites and Republicans.

I have never encountered a Liertarian/Randite or Republican who wasn't a congenital and perpetual liar.

They will manufacture any lie they need to in order to defend their corrupt political Liedeology.

Jun 25, 2013
Well we only learned it from you.

'Liberals' have been lying and cheating LONG before Nixon.
I'm sure Nixon was motivated by the voter fraud that put JFK in office.
"Even before Election Day, rumors circulated about fraud, especially in Chicago, where Mayor Richard Daley's machine was known for delivering whopping Democratic tallies by fair means and foul. "
"once an election has been stolen in Cook County, it stays stolen." What's more, according to journalist Seymour Hersh, a former Justice Department prosecutor who heard tapes of FBI wiretaps from the period believed that Illinois was rightfully Nixon's. Hersh also has written that J. Edgar Hoover believed Nixon actually won the presidency but in deciding to follow normal procedures and refer the FBI's findings to the attorney general—as of Jan. 20, 1961, Robert F. Kennedy—he effectively buried the case."
http://www.slate....d.2.html
Chicago corruption.

Jun 25, 2013
I wish Hezbollah Progressives learned from conservatives.
I wish Hezbollah Progressives learn honesty, dignity, caring, honor, respect, love of family and country, and the belief in hard work.

But mind you if a Hezbollah Progressive, or any Liberal Progressive learned those things, then they would be considered a conservative.

Jun 25, 2013
Driving down the road one sees huge, well lighted sign for feminine protection products and a small, dingy sign for condoms. Why the difference? The former is out for blood and the later is just messing around.
'Liberals' are out for blood, power, and will do anything to obtain it.
Those opposed to tyranny need to stop messing around and defend our liberty even more tenaciously.

Jun 25, 2013
Driving down the road one sees huge, well lighted sign for feminine protection products and a small, dingy sign for condoms. Why the difference? The former is out for blood and the later is just messing around.
'Liberals' are out for blood, power, and will do anything to obtain it.
Those opposed to tyranny need to stop messing around and defend our liberty even more tenaciously.

What fresh hell is this? I hope you're on something because that's some seriously disjointed garbage you're gracing us with.

Jun 25, 2013
Gee, as we see 'liberals' will do ANYTHING, break laws, leak details of a sealed court case (Jerri Ryan divorce) , intimidate opponents with the IRS, record data for later blackmail (NSA). .. and for what? A job that ostensibly pays ~$200k/year?

Jun 25, 2013
Here is what FDR actually said about govt works unions; "". Nothing not a damn thing.

Yes, he did:
"The Government does not engage --of course, the words "collective bargaining" were unheard of in those days --the Government does not make contracts with any Government employee."
"The pay of Government employees is fixed by the Congress. We people who run the Executive Department of Government as a whole are bound by the law. Every workman has a full op~ortunity to be heard. They can lay the case before the Congress if any change is contemplated in the lav!. That is where it is made."
"Mr. PreSident, do you think that Government employees should have the right to strike to enforce their demands?
THE PRESIDENT: No, the Civil SerVice rules cover that. That is very simple."
"Not in the Government, because there is no collective contract. It is a very different case. There isn1 t any bargaining, in other words, with the Government, therefore the question does not arise."
FDR Lib.

Jun 25, 2013
FDR Lib.

And Reagan raised taxes. Your point?

Jun 25, 2013
Point:
This is a lie:

"Here is what FDR actually said about govt works unions; "". Nothing not a damn thing. "

"FDR lib" is a reference to the source, the FDR Library.

Jun 25, 2013
No R2, here is the point; it is a fundamental individual right of a worker to associate himself with other workers and to bargain collectively with his employer. If you find that objectionable, then there is no hope for you or your soul. It makes the individual worthless when the value of his/her work is lessened by the inability to negotiate a fair wage. The economy would shutdown without strength of the labor force and the unions for demanding fair compensation for work performed. Its bad for the economy.

Government unions have a purpose to protect government employees from the political influences of an ever changing political landscape. The political orientation of government union members has no bearing on the services they provide. The huge mistake that is happening in Wisconsin (for example) is that the wages (and employee protection from politics) for function of services is not negotiated. It is dictated by mean-n-stingy Tea party and WACK JOB religious conservative.

Jun 26, 2013
individual right of a worker to associate himself with other workers and to bargain collectively with his employer.


Govt employees are paid from wealth plundered from their fellow citizens and controlled by politicians elected by the govt employees and the plundered.
protect government employees from the political influences of an ever changing political landscape

So why are ALL govt unions supporting socialist politicians? Oh, I get it, the union want to END the changing landscape and create the socialist state with no parties.
FDR opposed govt unions because he feared exactly what happened in WI. Unions use their plundered dues to support socialist candidates who then in turn promote and support unions. Govt for the unions and by the unions and the plundered peasants would not be happy with govt and rise in opposition. That's what happened in WI and the plundered citizens are now better off and trust in govt is falling.

Jun 26, 2013
Union workers directing funds to their friends:
http://blogs.fede...e-fifth/

I think that under Obama more government workers and officials have pleaded the 5'th than any other president. I'm sure Eric Holder will investigate (sarcasm)

How about the poor hard working selfless public employee's, who can't get fired, get golden pensions, who investigate Obama's enemies, who can destroy a persons life, using Americans money to buy wine, porn, etc. http://www.breitb...A7512Q00


Jun 26, 2013
Another selfless, unfireable, union supported and protected, dedicated public employee.

http://www.nypost...yorkpost

Anyone who supports freedom must be against public service unions

Jun 26, 2013
"Another selfless, unfireable, union supported and protected, dedicated public employee." - FreeTard

FreeTardo is right. Health care in America is substandard.

But of course in the Libertarian Utopia he wishes for America she would have died anyway unless she had enough money in her wallet to pay for the EMT for her services.

You see, in his Libertarian imagination, Corporations will magically appear to provide EMT services all over America.

But then we have the case of the private fire department in the U.S. who just won't respond to house fires unless you have paid them up front for their services.

They just let your house burn to the ground Libertarian style.

Jun 26, 2013
"Union workers directing funds to their friends:" - FreeTard

Are you saying that non-union workers never direct funds to their friends.

Isn't that what Washington Lobbyists do? Are Republican Senators and Congressman Unionized?

Jun 26, 2013
"Govt employees are paid from wealth plundered from their fellow citizens" - RyggTard

No they aren't. You pay your taxes willingly don't you?

If you don't want to pay for the benefits of being an American then you should head off to the Libertarian paradise of Somalia.

What is keeping you, Libertarian Boy?

Can't you afford to purchase a ticket?


Jun 26, 2013
"So why are ALL govt unions supporting socialist politicians?" - RyggTard

Because they recognize Republicans and Libertarians for what they are... The Enemies of America.

The fact that you are so mentally polluted that you don't, is your failure, and your bias. Not theirs.

Time and time again we have illustrated your dishonesty, your mental confusion, your revisions of history, and your willful misinterpretation of facts and scientific reality.

This indicates that your claim that there is bias on the Liberal side is really just self delusion on your part.

In summation. You are a dishonest, self deceiving, NutJob.


Jun 26, 2013
"Gee, as we see 'liberals' will do ANYTHING, break laws, leak details of a sealed court case (Jerri Ryan divorce) " - RyggTard

JUNE 22--In what may prove a crippling blow to his U.S. Senate campaign, divorce records reveal that Illinois Republican Jack Ryan was accused by his former wife, actress Jeri Ryan, of pressuring her to have sex at swinger's clubs in New York, Paris, and New Orleans while other patrons watched.

The bombshell allegation is contained amidst nearly 400 pages of records ordered released yesterday by a Los Angeles Superior Court judge who ruled on media requests to unseal documents from the Ryan case.

The performer alleged that she refused Ryan's requests for public sex during the excursions, which included a trip to a New York club "with cages, whips and other apparatus hanging from the ceiling." While Ryan, a former Goldman Sachs executive, confirmed the trips with the actress, he described them simply as "romantic getaways," CONT..

Jun 26, 2013
Cont...

denying her claims that he sought public sex.

The politician has repeatedly claimed that his divorce file--portions of which were sealed in 2000 and 2001--contained no embarrassing information that would harm his chances against Democratic nominee Barack Obama.

http://www.thesmo...-scandal

--------------------------

So once again the Claims made by RyggTard turn out to be nothing but Libertarian/Randite lies.

I have never encountered a Libertarian or Randite who wasn't a congenital and perpetual liar.

Jun 26, 2013
Another selfless, unfireable, union supported and protected, dedicated public employee.

http://www.nypost...yorkpost

Anyone who supports freedom must be against public service unions

Since unions are so great, let's start a Producers union and then go on strike.

Jun 26, 2013
"let's start a Producers union and then go on strike." - RyggTard

Corporations can certainly band together and refuse to produce.

There is no law on the books that prevents it.

Poor RyggTard. He just doesn't have a rational grasp of how the world works.

His mental disease prevents it.


Jun 26, 2013
You know R2, that must have taken a lot of effort to compose this thought line;
Govt employees are paid from wealth plundered from their fellow citizens and controlled by politicians elected by the govt employees and the plundered.
Man your view of a Govt employee is wacko. I suggest you go ask a Govt employee "are you providing the service we paid for". All will say "that and beyond!" because that is what they do. That is what America is all about.

That is what America is all about my friend. You will find hard workers everywhere; be it the at the pinnacle of wall street, or the city park service gardener. 47% of us work hard to keep the USA afloat.


Jun 27, 2013
Man your view of a Govt employee is wacko. I suggest you go ask a Govt employee "are you providing the service we paid for". All will say "that and beyond!" because that is what they do.


"The IRS held a 2008 conference in Atlanta that included an open bar, elaborate hors d'oeuvres and a video of agency employees dressed as Olympic athletes with makeshift torches.

Read more: http://thehill.co...XQ8IjL5d
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"Poor oversight by the Internal Revenue Service allowed workers to use agency credit cards to buy wine for an expensive luncheon, dorky swag for managers' meetings and, for one employee, romance novels and diet pills, an agency watchdog said Tuesday."
http://www.breitb...A7512Q00
IRS Sent $46,378,040 in Refunds to 23,994 'Unauthorized' Aliens at 1 Atlanta Address - See more at: http://cnsnews.co...ds-23994

Jun 27, 2013
Man your view of a Govt employee is wacko.

Like the WI teachers who lied about sick leave and went to Madison, WI to yell and scream?

"The details of the $822,000 Las Vegas conference — featuring mind readers, lavish parties and embarrassing parodies — were released April 2 in an inspector general's report and widely covered. More than a half-dozen top leaders at GSA were immediately fired, put on leave or forced to resign. And stern rebukes came from the White House."
http://www.federa...expected
"Educators accused of breaking rules, abusing kids — or simply failing to provide students with a decent education — will be paid a stunning $22 million by the city this year for doing absolutely nothing."
http://www.nydail....1184406

Jun 27, 2013
As a private citizen, I can direct my funds to my friends and it is not stealing. In Government if I direct funds to friends, it is stealing taxpayers money to give to my friends.

When the IRS is out of control, who's to blame? No one it seems. Government employees now regularly plead the 5'th. If Government employees need a Union because they don't trust the Government that they run, how can the general public trust the Government.

To save this country, we must fire the government unions.

Jun 28, 2013
What is it with Republicans, nazi flags, rampant Racism, and Hate for Obama?

STRATFORD, Conn. (AP) — A man's decision to fly a Nazi flag outside his Connecticut home has prompted a visit from police.

Sincavage, who flew a Confederate flag in the same spot several months ago, said flying the flag is his way of protesting the policies of President Obama. He said he has no plans to take it down.

Read more: http://www.myfoxn...XUZjDzu9

Jun 28, 2013
"As a private citizen, I can direct my funds to my friends and it is not stealing." - FreeTard

Doing so is never "stealing", it is the ethical failure called "nepotism"

http://en.wikiped...Nepotism

Poor FreeTardo. No wonder he is so ethically challenged. His view of ethics is so course and incomplete that he simply identifies nepotism as "stealing" and uses that mis-identification as the basis of some faulty logic.

Garbage in = Garbage out.

Jun 28, 2013
"Like the WI teachers who lied about sick leave and went to Madison, WI to yell and scream?" - RyggTard

Most school systems implement "personal days" rather than Sick Leave, and even allow teachers to bank those days up to some limit. If not taken they are often lost.

Given your long history of lying and misrepresentation, RyggTard, can you provide any proof to us that this teacher was on "sick leave" rather than a "personal day"?

No. I didn't think you could.


Jun 28, 2013
"The IRS held a 2008 conference in Atlanta that included an open bar, elaborate hors d'oeuvres and a video of agency employees dressed as Olympic athletes with makeshift torches." - RyggTard

We have something similar every year where I work.

Management considers it "Team Building"

They are right.

Jun 29, 2013
"let's start a Producers union and then go on strike." - RyggTard

Corporations can certainly band together and refuse to produce.

There is no law on the books that prevents it.

Poor RyggTard. He just doesn't have a rational grasp of how the world works.

His mental disease prevents it.



I tend to agree. I think it depends on if you want a rational world, or one of irrational ism based on political over exuberance. R2 Tends to fall in the later as best I can tell. I wish I knew where R2 pulls all of his quotation from though. I could say Benjamin Franklin was one of America's best patriots, and he will argue that to not be the case based on tea party principles. If anything, the Rygg has some Cojones, even if he is a wingnut.


Jun 29, 2013
It is a big mistake to suppose, that the humans are predestined to create multicultural communities spontaneously. Such a mixing of cultures and races would kill the cultural and racial diversity instead and it will inhibit the natural competition - so that as the whole the resulting homogeneous mixture will evolve slower. From the same reason the organisms form a diverse species, not a single homogeneous jelly covering the surface of Earth. Therefore the people will form racial mixtures if it will be advantageous for them, for example economically, but from long term perspective they will lose as a whole. We should realize, that the multicultural world is a product of economical globalism of international monopolies, which just struggle to achieve the free motion of labor force, but they don't solve the resulting social problems and transfer their solution to local government. In this way we all are paying the international companies for their cheaper labor force and higher profit.

Jun 29, 2013
I think it depends on if you want a rational world, or one of irrational ism based on political over exuberance.


It's irrational to want the US govt to follow the Constitution?
I guess Hottie prefers the 'rational' destruction of the US to a complete totalitarian state by Obama and his fellow socialists.

Jun 29, 2013
"It's irrational to want the US govt to follow the Constitution?" - RyggTard

Would this be the Constitution that allowed America's Founding Fathers to own salves, and prohibited women from voting?

"destruction of the US to a complete totalitarian state.." - RyggTard

This would be the democratic "totalitarian state" that you are living in, in which you elect your government officials, move anywhere you want, Travel to any nation you want = Except Cuba where you are barred by Republican sponsored law?

This would be the "totalitarian state" which Republicans and American's regularly claim is the freeist nation on earth, and a beacon of freedom and liberty for the entire world?

Watching Faux news and listening to mindless Conservative Mouthpieces like Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck and the others has made your mind soft and is feeding your mental disease, TardieBoy.

You should take a Vacation.

I suggest the Glorious Libertarian-Paradise state of Somalia, where you can see real freedom.

Jun 29, 2013
American's regularly claim is the freeist nation on earth, and a beacon of freedom and liberty for the entire world?

Every time I hear something similar from an american I can't help but think that it's like a North Korean saying he lives in the most free nation ... at some point the public buy the PR bull so much (and are so little knowleadgeable about the world outside their nation's borders) that they actively start believing it.

Jun 29, 2013
American's regularly claim is the freeist nation on earth, and a beacon of freedom and liberty for the entire world?

Every time I hear something similar from an american I can't help but think that it's like a North Korean saying he lives in the most free nation ... at some point the public buy the PR bull so much (and are so little knowleadgeable about the world outside their nation's borders) that they actively start believing it.

"The United States, with an economic freedom score of 76, has lost ground again in the 2013 Index. Its score is 0.3 point lower than last year, with declines in monetary freedom, business freedom, labor freedom, and fiscal freedom. "
http://www.herita...edstates
After seven years of socialist rule. What a surprise, not.

Jun 29, 2013
Every time I hear something similar from an american I can't help but think that it's like a North Korean saying he lives in the most free nation ... at some point the public buy the PR bull so much (and are so little knowleadgeable about the world outside their nation's borders) that they actively start believing it
Yeah without specifics here I would have to conclude that aa is just posturing. What freedoms do euros have that americans dont?

Our taxes are lower, our cost of living is far lower on average, we have better health care, our gas is cheaper, we can own guns, etc.

Jun 29, 2013
"After seven years of socialist rule. What a surprise, not." - RyggTard

Poor RyggTard, he just can't explain why Socialist states like Canada, iceland, Sweden, Norway, etc all score higher on the freedom scale than the U.S.

Even the socialist state of Chile does better.

But that is ok because his source of "Freedom statistics", is the Heritage Foundation, an organization that still promotes smoking as a healthy lifestyle choice.

Filth.

Jun 30, 2013
Freedom is being allowed to say Homosexuality is wrong, Homosexual Marriage is wrong and not going to jail or being dragged to the human rights tribunal.
Freedom is not being forced to make a cake for a homosexual wedding.
Freedom is not being forced to make a flower arrangement for a homosexual wedding.
Freedom is being treated equally by the IRS irrespective of your political party.
Freedom is not having the press fear that the DOJ will investigate you for reporting things embarrassing to the president.
Freedom is being secure in your communications.

Only an absolute idiot or a Progressive nut, can believe that freedom has not been lost in the last 5 years. Are American's safer with this loss of Freedom over the last 5 years? Has lost freedoms increased our safety? Only an absolute idiot or a Progressive nut can say we have traded our freedoms for additional safety.

Jun 30, 2013
"Freedom is being allowed to say Homosexuality is wrong, " - FreeTard

Freedom is being able to fire someone who says homosexuality is wrong.

Isn't that the kind of freedom you have been demanding in your mindless tirades against Unions?


Jun 30, 2013
"Homosexual Marriage is wrong " - FreeTard

Your personal opinions are of no consequence. Homosexuals have the freedom to marry.

Your plan to limit their Liberty shows us how much of an enemy you are to true freedom and Liberty.

Tea-Tarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrd

Jun 30, 2013
"Only an absolute idiot or a Progressive nut, can believe that freedom has not been lost in the last 5 years" - FreeTard

Poor FreeTard. He still thinks it is his Gawad Given right to piss in the pool.

Sorry TardieBoy. You have never had that right.

Jun 30, 2013
"Freedom is being treated equally by the IRS irrespective of your political party." - FreeTardo

I don't grant the party of Republican Tax Evaders a waver from being preferentially investigated for tax evasion.

No rational person would.

Jun 30, 2013
"Freedom is not being forced to make a cake for a homosexual wedding." - FreeTard

Freedom is expecting your employees to do their job even if they don't like who they are working for.

Poor FreeTardo. He is just one cock short of a chicken coup.

Jun 30, 2013
"Freedom is not being forced to make a flower arrangement for a homosexual wedding." - FreeTardo

Do your job FreTardo, or else your employer will fire you, as he has every right to do.

Youi Poor Tardieboy..... you.

Jun 30, 2013
Freethinking is the perfect example of everything that is wrong with Christianity.

Jul 01, 2013
johngee and VD show whats wrong with Homosexuals activists and Progressives. They want to take rights away and force business owners to support things they religiously oppose. Remember religious freedom is in the constitution.

So, JohnGee and VD, would you support book store owned by an Atheist being forced by LAW to carry bibles and pro-christian reading material? Do you support a LAW mandating that Atheist flower shops MUST provide flowers to first communion services? Do you support a law stating Atheists baker MUST make a baptism cake? Do you support laws that would arrest an Atheist who says anything derogatory towards a christian church?

IF you are against any such laws, you are a hypocrite!

Jul 01, 2013
Freedom is not being forced to make a cake for a homosexual wedding.
Freedom is not being forced to make a flower arrangement for a homosexual wedding
And this would also include the freedom not to bake childrens birthday cakes with xian symbols on top of them which glorify torture, martyrdom, and human sacrifice. Or to serve people who perpetuate religionist lies, bigotry, and violence in restaurants, supermarkets, hospitals, and so forth.

This would only be retaliation mind you.
http://www.ration...174.html
book store owned by an Atheist being forced by LAW to carry bibles and pro-christian reading material?
So you read my post and posted right away.

So why not ft? Why shouldnt there be laws against bigotry? And why are you implying there SHOULD be laws protecting it?

Ill tell you. Because bigotry is a core value of religion. Religion could not exist without bigotry.

Jul 01, 2013
"They want to take rights away and force business owners to support things they religiously oppose." - FreeTard

When Businesses and Corpoations become people they will be free to have personal opinions.

Until then they will be regulated by the state for the good of the people, and correctly so.

"So, JohnGee and VD, would you support book store owned by an Atheist being forced by LAW to carry bibles and pro-christian reading material?" - FreeTard

Of course not. That would be promoting one religion over another.

Do you actually think before you write your nonsense?

Mindless.. Absolutely mindless.

Jul 01, 2013
Freethining.... A random series of thoughts disconnected from reality and from any logical connection with each other.

Incoherent, Illogical, and Irrelevant to anything but an imaginary world.


Jul 01, 2013
You realize, don't you, that you will destroy phys.org if you continue trying to use it for political indoctrination.

Jul 01, 2013
Remember that the US constitution frees the people from the shackles of religion. That is the important lesson the goofball freethink need to absorb in the one puny wingnut neuron he has in his brain case. I'm proud to stand with progressives because they are much freer thinking than he and and his conservative tightwad anti-women religiosity crap.

Is the US Tea Party movement a racial backlash against President Obama?
Absolutely! I was listening to NPR the other day, and a lady (forgot the name) was talking about coming from Africa to the US, and to experience USA racism for the first time. Free think need to change shoes and go through that process (even as a mental exercise, maybe we all should). To her, she didn't know what a watermelon was or its association. She had to learn to *fake* being ashamed because that was what the racists wanted.

There is a big lesson we all need to take home; that a country like USA has racism and we all need to fight against it.


Jul 02, 2013
Remember that the US constitution frees the people from the shackles of religion.

No, it prevents Congress from establishing a state religion and passing laws to prevent the free exercise of religion.
Congress has violated the part about establishing a state religion. The state religion is now atheism and Congress passes laws to prevent the free exercise of other religions.
I was listening to NPR the other day,

What a surprise! Hottie listens to state run radio.
that a country like USA has racism

Which is promoted and supported by those who profit from it, 'liberals', Al Sharpton, Jackson, .....
Jesse Jackson's business model is to shakedown businesses by threatening discrimination lawsuits.
Eric Holder refused to seriously investigate black gangs attacking whites in Chicago and WI.
Racism is a wonderful tool for the 'progressives'.

Jul 02, 2013
Otto, if you owned a store and you don't want to bake cakes with religious symbols on it and I wanted one baked, I wouldn't take you to court to force you to bake one, if you owned a book store and you don't carry the bible, I would not force you to, if you were a printer and you wouldn't print for a church, I wouldn't force you. Yet Progressive will take small businesses to court to force them to do so for Homosexual Marriage. This Proves Progressives are Hypocrites. Progressives hate the constitution Because it forces Government to leave People alone. The Constitution LIMITS Government, Progressives WANT unlimited power given to the Government. Progressives are the true Bigots, they want to force conformity with their values.

Jul 02, 2013
if you owned a store and you don't want to bake cakes with religious symbols on it and I wanted one baked, I wouldn't take you to court to force you to bake one
I am sure some little old lady in your congregation or the aclu would though, and rightly so.

See, because if I was allowed to get away with something like that then the guy across the street might want to stop selling to jews or black people, and we couldnt let that happen could we? Of course jews or blacks are not fairies which I guess in your mind is somehow different.

This is why we have laws meant to restrict bigots such as yourself from discriminating. This is reasonable dont you think?

But we have yet to address the bigotry recorded in your books, which is clearly defamatory and inciteful.

"Don't associate with non-Christians. Don't receive them into your house or even exchange greeting with them." 2 John 1:10

"Christians are "of God;" everyone else is wicked." 1 John 5:19

-This is hate speech is it not?

Jul 02, 2013
I was allowed to get away with something like that then the guy across the street might want to stop selling to jews or black people,

So?
Then someone else will sell to them.
Should all stores in Little .... have signs in English because they are driving away anyone who can't read the language.
Free markets where people are free to sell THEIR stuff to whomever THEY wish will either go out of business excluding some customers, or not.
The wedding cake baker in OR were set up by homosexuals. Their cakes were in demand around the area but the homosexual mob intimidated them and their customers.
In addition to the bakers, their customers are being intimidated not to buy a quality product. Too bad their neighbors and customers put up with the intimidation.

Jul 02, 2013
So?
Then someone else will sell to them.
Should all stores in Little .... have signs in English because they are driving away anyone who can't read the language.
Free markets where people are free to sell THEIR stuff to whomever THEY wish will either go out of business excluding some customers, or not
Well there you go. And people who cannot buy food or gas where they live because of the color of their skin or the nature of their religion can just move, cant they? Or starve, or die.

Thats not the way this country works rygg. And thats why your free markets do not exist here or anywhere where there are govts that quarantee equal rights for everyone.

Because sadly there are always people like you who would gladly take those rights away from people who dont look or think like you do.

Jul 02, 2013
And people who cannot buy food or gas where they live because of the color of their skin or the nature of their religion can just move, cant they? Or starve, or die.

What's stopping a competitor?
And if business is so good anyone can turn away customers, there is room for competition.
And there will be people like the homosexual mafia in OR that try to put Sweet Cakes by Mellisa out of business.

Jul 02, 2013
And people who cannot buy food or gas where they live because of the color of their skin or the nature of their religion can just move, cant they? Or starve, or die.

What's stopping a competitor?
And if business is so good anyone can turn away customers, there is room for competition.
And there will be people like the homosexual mafia in OR that try to put Sweet Cakes by Mellisa out of business.
Oh sorry I try not to interact with bigots. Is that bigotry? I dont know.

And if you came into my flowershop I would tell you to go shop at the bigot-owned flowershop down the street. You know, the one covered in eggs and graffiti.

Jul 02, 2013
"What's stopping a competitor?" - RyggTard

Oh, probably the same things that are stopping the U.S. from Competing against China.

Your assumption that every niche however small will be filled by some corporation that magically sprouts up out of nowhere, is another well disproved Libertarian Fantasy.

But since you choose to live in self imposed ignorance, you keep making that mistake as well.

Jul 03, 2013
Remember that the US constitution frees the people from the shackles of religion.


No, it prevents Congress from establishing a state religion and passing laws to prevent the free exercise of religion.

Same difference R2. An atheist has just the same rights as a person of faith. It's a well hashed over debate but the constitution provides protections from government from establishing a religion on people. That means by law, I'm not bound to any religion. It's as simple as that.
The state religion is now atheism and Congress passes laws to prevent the free exercise of other religions.
That's BS. You can't treat the disbelief of religion as a religion for law.
All law would be meaningless if there wasn't a secular social component of the law. On this great 4th of July week and Egypt's new grand revolution against religious cronyism, recall the preamble to the Constitution of the United States of America; "We the People of the United States of America..."