Facebook sued for $1 billion over Intifada page

If we make any comments, the "Freedom Watch" cyber army will sue us into the gutter.
A warning for all those born cross-eyed: Be extra careful at who you are looking at these days!

I think Facebook should be driven to bankruptcy so that it will never again allow the use of free speech to criticize Israel. I also think that anyone who says anything critical about Israel, no matter how factual, should be dropped from a helicopter in the Negev desert. How dare anyone say anything critical about Israel? Don't they have more than 180 other countries they can criticize at will?

Join the development of federated social networking, as epitomized by Diaspora*Alpha*. Note the snark to "intifada".

Good people ought to be armed as they will, with wits and guns and the truth.

Me thinks they protesteth too much!

for a free speech person klayman cannot handle much free speech

This isn't "free speech". It's a call to genocide.

If anyone had said the reverse of this, they'd instantly be blotted out of any public so-called "credibility", and their careers ruined forever.

I guess it's not big deal any more if anyone makes Hitleresc remarks; just so long as they are against Jews and on the internet, anything is allowed.

If a Christian telling a homosexual to repent is "hate speech" then just what is it when 500k people go online and demand the destruction of an entire nation and it's people?

These 500k people should be hunted down and charged with "hate speech" and "hate crime" because they promote genocide and suicide bombings...

...but you fools on here think it's no big deal.

Muslims and atheists have at least one thing in common, apparently, and that is you both support the genocide against Jews world wide.

Muslims and atheists have at least one thing in common, apparently, and that is you both support the genocide against Jews world wide.

you got your facts upside down. Israel is thriving. Palestine and Psalestinians, on the other hand, are the one subjected to a slow but unmistakable genocide. Just look at the map and see which side is disappearing. And if your memory is not too crowded with non facts, just remember what happened to Gaza in 2008.

Free speech has some limits. Incinting violence is definately one of them.

epsi00:

Oh right, that whole thing that's been going on all of my lifetime where Israel gives up land to the "palestinians" and then within a week or two the palestians move in more rockets, which they get from Iran (who by the way, has openly called for the destruction of Israel and extermination of the Jewish people), along with the suicide bombers.

It is no small coincidence that the Genocidal muslims, led by the Imam in Iran and his puppet president are the very ones who outfit the palestinians with the rockets which they use to attack women and children in Israel.

If someone in Canada was launching rockets across the boarder killing Americans in New York or Michigan, I'd support a full scale military retaliation.

Same thing goes for the palestinians. As long as they keep launching rockets against people who repeatedly retreat and give up land even when they should not, well, they deserve whatever retaliation the Israelis apply.

It's all BS. This a show put on by the very wealthiest on the planet to keep our minds occupied with crap and not real existense.

Quantum_Conundrum

I see that no where in there did you mention the Palestinians plight. It's not all about Israel to some of us, just so you know. No where in there did you mention that the use of force is 10 to 1 against the Palestinians because they don't have the weapons Israel does thanks to American support. Funny how you left out the living conditions, which we read about all the time, that the Palestinians live under thanks to blockades by Isreal. The last I heard it was Concrete. Until people start talking about those problems, which are largely the result or Israels actions toward a weaker people, a large part of the World will NEVER come to Israels side.

I say arm both sides equally and let them go at it. Right now one side has F/A 18's and Nukes and the other has suicide bombers and a non-guided peice of crap rocket that's lucky to even hit anything. Only seems fair to be equal if they want to fight. Besides, some of us don't support either side.

Oh right, that whole thing that's been going on all of my lifetime where Israel gives up land to the "palestinians" and then within a week or two the palestians move in more rockets...

Really? Israel giving land back to the Palestinians. Which land is that? The land it took from them to begin with? You are too clouded with israeli propaganda to realize how ridiculous your point of view is. Your ignorance is absolutely total when it comes to the middle east issue. You are just another parakeet, and there are many. who keep repeating, ad nauseum, arguments that have no value.

And for that reason, I will not respond to your future posts on this issue. Go educate yourself first about the real issues.

everyone knows facebook is doomed for government control. if it isn't already under the tentacles of the government already.
i think zuckerberg should sell out now before he realizes there is no marginal value. you think the american government is going to allow russia to buy REAL control and access to facebook. think again. public access and contol of facebook will not be given to the highest bidder, only the stock will. At least, i hope our government isn't stupid or ignorant enough to allow the 'public' to buy into access and understanding of so valuable a strategic asset. perhaps the dhs is, but i would not underestimate the nsa. even google was smart enough to realize there is no real thing as unvetted 'freedom'.

maybe mark wants into the cia and nsa framework and wants to be part of the cyber government. i don't blame him if he does. it's an exciting game.

Oh right, that whole thing that's been going on all of my lifetime where Israel gives up land to the "palestinians" and then within a week or two the palestians move in more rockets...

Really? Israel giving land back to the Palestinians. Which land is that? The land it took from them to begin with? You are too clouded with israeli propaganda to realize how ridiculous your point of view is. Your ignorance is absolutely total when it comes to the middle east issue. You are just another parakeet, and there are many. who keep repeating, ad nauseum, arguments that have no value.

And for that reason, I will not respond to your future posts on this issue. Go educate yourself first about the real issues.

LoL...

Jews have been there for over 3000 years now. If anything, it's the "palestinians" who are trespassing, and need to get the hell out of Israel.

Jews have been there for over 3000 years now. If anything, it's the "palestinians" who are trespassing, and need to get the hell out of Israel.

You do realize it was Palestinean(ian?) land after the Jews left, right?
That's like going back to a house you moved out of and kicking out the current family that's living there because it was your's at some point in the DISTANT past.
But alas you defeated any calls for Isrealie(?) sympathy by essentially saying "Fuck Palestinians, who cares, they aren't as important as us."

You do realize it was Palestinean(ian?) land after the Jews left, right?

But the Palestinians did not come from anywhere. They were there and stayed there. They did not settle in Palestine after the few 1000's jews left. So the people who left have now more right than those who did not?

And let's for a nanosecond assume the jews have more rights to be in Palestine than the Palestinians and therefore they have the right to kick the Palestinians out of their ancestral land. Let's now apply that same principle to the old US of A. At least in this case, the historical facts are not disputed and the native Indians never left. They were just dispossessed. Let's then give them all their land back and let's go back ourselves to wherever the heck we came from.

I would like to see quantum conundrum going back to Estonia or was it Sicily?

But, no, we only apply the right of return to the jewish people because somehow they have more rights than the rest of us.

Anyone check QCs activity page? He's dropped like 30 comments on some 25 different articles in the last 5 hours. Thats perhaps 10 minutes to digest each article and associated comments, and then write his own. What's up QC? You think that might be a little excessive or what? Run out of lithium again? Sadly this behavior has occured frequently in the past.

Many scholars now believe that the Jews and palestinians are the same people. Palestinians were the ones who adopted Islam.

Well I refuse to be a vector for Israeli propaganda. Any country, any people, anyone can be criticized except Israel. Sorry, if anything, Israel is on the wrong side of human rights, freedom of speech and anything that humanity achieved so far. It's just a colonial power that is doing what colonial powers have done before. Justify their occupation, most of the time, and outright stealing of the land on occasion. What happened to the native indians in the US is happening to Palestinians in Palestine. And we should call things by their name. Israel is a colonial power that will not stop killing palestinians, occupying their land until it gets all the land and until it kill the last palestinian or at least reduce them to a situation from which they will never recover. As such,the crimes being committed by Hamas and few other palestinian groups pale beside the crimes being committed by Israel. And no amount of propaganda is going to change that. Yesterday victim has become today abuser.

reduce them to a situation from which they will never recover.

That would be difficult. Israel is a garrison state. It is a bridgehead established strategically on the shore of a potential Islamic empire. The following article shows just why it was established:

"A Problem for Palestine: Gaza's Birthrate Highest in Middle East"
http://www.wrmea....ast.html

-This was written in 1994. We can see the results today of religion-mandated population growth. Those who were children then are adults now. They are idle and poor and their own children are starving. Without western occupation these separate revolts would have joined into a new caliphate and this would be a critical threat to the entire world.

Jews may have invented reproductive aggression, as it is an integral part of the Torah. They are very suited to counter the results of what Islam learned from them about conquest.

they moved london bridge right? just move israel to mexico. done and done. no more stupid religion wars.

Yes, there was a holocaust. But jews want us all to think they are special and the only victims of a holocaust. As if the Armenians, the Aztecs, the Incas, the American Indian and others don't count.

Their constant protests and activity against all who criticize them is merely a smoke screen to hide the facts that they stole someones country and will refuse to grant the people they stole it from even a square inch of land for themselves. They will NEVER willingly allow the creation of a Palestinian state and anything they say to the contrary is a blatant lie. They are doing to the Palestinians what they accuse others of doing to them. If there are people who want to destroy them, they bring it on themselves with their own actions, just like the US invites terrorism by its actions.

Jews have been there for over 3000 years now. If anything, it's the "palestinians" who are trespassing, and need to get the hell out of Israel.

Who was there before the Jews? It wasn't empty

Jews have been there for over 3000 years now. If anything, it's the "palestinians" who are trespassing, and need to get the hell out of Israel.

The Palestinians can trace their ancestral and historical roots to the Caananites, who were there before the Israelites.

When the oil in ME runs dry, the good old USA will do as it has always done to protect its national interests and leave the Iraelis to fend for themselves, no matter how many lobbies they have in Washington DC. Friends and enemies are not forever, only interests. Look at South East Asia, Tibet,Sudan, Somali, Yemen and elswhere. When the capital outlay outweights the benefits, Uncle Sam got out pronto or never got involved. Then karma will take over.I wouldn't care less anymore for the righteous Israelis nor the hot head Palestinians. 60 years of arguing, lobbying and fighting is a blink in history. Each will reap what they sow in the end. You'll never know, instant karma may happen at any moment.

It seems to me that a page that calls for the destruction of Israel and all Jews is a bit radical! This page is clearly an expression of hatred against Jews, and to seeing that it has such great support is in itself an act of terror. I hope most of these supporters are in the Mid East, as I would be shocked if red-blooded Americans would dare support this.

And while I concur that Jews are often too zealous in defending their rights and their public image, I think that in this case Mr. Klayman has justly used his Jew Guile to play the media and call attention to this issue. This page should have been taken down, it is hate-mongering!! No one would allow for a page that advocated the destruction of Palestine.

Also, I think that the Jews have a right to establish their own nation-state, after WWII and all. Still, couldn't they have picked a less disputed site? Maybe they should use all their technology and money to raise the seafloor and live out there in the Mediterranean instead..

Schlomo Sand, professor and author, denies the existence of a Jewish people. He makes a number of very compelling arguments for the rights of both palestinian and Jew in israel:
http://www.youtub...a_player

-These are well worth watching-

couldn't they have picked a less disputed site?

Like I say, the reestablishment of Israel was a brilliant strategic ploy that had been planned for generations, long before the Balfour declaration. In conjunction with other western actions throughout the middle east, it now prevents a Moslem empire from forming and threatening the survival of the entire species. Hopefully.

Oh there are plenty of books about the issue but one I read and recommend was written by Norman G. Finkelstein " Blaming the Victims " in response to the book written by Joan Peters "From Time Immemorial: The Origins of the Arab-Jewish Conflict over Palestine".

So the whole idea of the the Palestinians having come from somewhere other than Palestine and therefore should be sent back to that hypothetical region is completely destroyed by Finkelstein, who in the process almost got his career destroyed before it even started. But Israel's propagandist never tire or sleep. You destroy one myth, they come up with ten, money not being an issue at all, or "fake and pseudo" scholarship. There is a whole army on Israel's side working tirelessly to rewrite history to favor the occupying power, Israel. Nothing new there. It is also not new that a lot of people swallow the propaganda without a second thought.

Dr Sand is an Israeli. There are many who agree with him. There can be no other solution than for the people who are already there, to share Palestine. Or their survivors, whichever.

Here's what Chomsky said about Finkelstein:

The Fate of an Honest Intellectual

http://www.chomsk...er01.htm

Chomsky was among the few who defended Finkelstein when he wrote his book.

Chomsky on the Peters book:
"you still find it at newsstands in the airport and so on,"

-And on amazon, with the original favorable reviews:
http://www.amazon...ail?pd=1

-And also barnes and noble et al. Which means it is still serving it's purpose as propaganda in support of Fort Israel and it's vital mission of international security.

Unlike finklestein however, Dr Sand has not been silenced. He still teaches at U of Tel Aviv. His book, written 10 years later, reflects the change in propaganda, now beginning to promote a more equitable solution in Palestine.
http://www.amazon...ail?pd=1

This mirrors the shifting politics in the middle east. The west now occupies a great deal of it. A lot has happened since 9/11, and we can see how these 2 books were part of an evolving Effort to enable those changes.

It is obvious that anyone advocating the death of millions of people should be held accountable... would it be normal to say this about black people... would it be acceptable to say this about gays? So why should it be acceptable about Jews? Double standards ahoy!!!

I, for one, am against violence be it directed against Jews or Palestinians or Iraqis. However some people don't have anything to say against violence directed against other people than Jews.

If you are truly against violence, then you should be against all violence. The author of the suit against Facebook should have done something when violence was generously applied to the Palestinians of Gaza, or to the afghan people or to Iraqis or now to Libyans. There is no good and bad violence. And if you think there is or if you raise your voice only against one type of violence, then you are a hypocrite but also someone who thinks that it's ok to advocate and use violence sometimes, as long as it is not directed against your own people.

We say NO to ANY violence. So the double standards are in fact not coming from this side of the fence.

How about a call for pouring 10,000 IRS audit agents into the lives of those living in the Silicon valley. Its not violent and we can help them support their ideology with their wallets.

Facebook should have done something when violence was generously applied to the Palestinians of Gaza, or to the afghan people or to Iraqis or now to Libyans.

Reproductive aggression- warfare of the cradle as Teddy Roosevelt called it- is an extreme form of violence. It creates future generations and gives them the choice to either starve or fight. This is Islamic fundamentalism throughout the middle east. We are watching the results.

We say NO to ANY violence. So the double standards are in fact not coming from this side of the fence.

Well, you certainly sound like a potential martyr. Every gen says this, thinks they are finally mature and moral and intelligent enough to avoid conflict. And then along comes an enemy they absolutely HAVE to fight. Without fail.

This unfortunately is how the world works. It is the result of the tropical human repro rate and the religions that seek to take advantage of it's horrific potential.

Ah, a fellow cynic! Good point!

That is dark as night, otto! I think though that the world is getting better. And maybe it is because we are becoming more sheep like, more influenced by better and better tools of mind control. Do I hear a hooray from anyone else?? However, there is something infuriating about the idea that we are not given the truth, and we are led to believe well implemented lies. As infuriating as innocent deaths perhaps.

About this reproductive aggression, isn't it good for both west and the east? If I am not mistaken colonial Africa exploded with population, given unreasonable loans and technologies by the western world in order to become a large market and labor force. Then again, if Roosevelt had a term for it, its /probably/ been well thought out. Or is it just more mis-information?

That is dark as night, otto!

You bet. All of history is black as the pit from pole to pole.

I think though that the world is getting better. And maybe it is because we are becoming more sheep like, more influenced by better and better tools of mind control.

You bet! This situation is not being corrected by itself. We are indeed being domesticated, for own salvation.

Do I hear a hooray from anyone else?? However, there is something infuriating about the idea that we are not given the truth, and we are led to believe well implemented lies.

"If They told you you would cry, so just look at Them and sigh, and know they love you." -CSNY
If we knew what was going on we wouldn't participate.

As infuriating as innocent deaths perhaps.

Death is inevitable. But it can be made to serve a Purpose. It does not have to be pointless.

About this reproductive aggression, isn't it good for both west and the east?

Overpop and the cause of it has been known since Leaders first began keeping records of grain distribution from communal farming. Sumerians wrote about it. The only way to defeat enemies however is to outgrow them. "There is a (proper) time to embrace...and to refrain...to live...to die" ecc3 -The key to effective Management.

colonial Africa exploded with population, given unreasonable loans and technologies by the western world in order to become a large market and labor force.

Their acquisition of tech and resulting explosion was inevitable. The west however was able to maintain influence and control. There are still animals and ecologies left in Africa; but the Sahel continues to march southward. It is a daunting task.

Then again, if Roosevelt had a term for it, its /probably/ been well thought out. Or is it just more mis-information?

It has been well Planned, just not discussed.