Magnetic fields found in a jet from a baby star

November 30, 2018, Academia Sinica Institute of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Figure 1: ALMA detection of SiO line polarization in the HH 211 jet. (Top) A composite image showing the HH 211 jet and the outflow around it. The blue and red images show respectively the approaching (blueshifted) side and the receding (redshifted) side of the jet in SiO (adopted from Lee et al. 2009). Gray image shows the outflow in H2 (adopted from Hirano et al. 2006). (Bottom) A zoom-in to the innermost part of the jet within 700 au of the central protostar. Orange image shows the accretion disk recently detected with ALMA (Lee et al. 2018). Blue and red images show the blueshifted and redshifted sides of the innermost jet coming out from the disk, obtained in our observation. Yellow line segments show the orientations of the SiO line polarization in the jet. A size scale of our solar system is shown in the lower right corner for size comparison. In the two panels, asterisks mark the possible position of the central protostar. Credit: ALMA (ESO/NAOJ/NRAO)/Lee et al

An international research team led by Chin-Fei Lee in the Academia Sinica Institute of Astronomy and Astrophysics (ASIAA) has made a breakthrough observation with the Atacama Large Millimeter/submillimeter Array (ALMA), confirming the presence of magnetic fields in a jet from a protostar. Jets are believed to play an important role in star formation, enabling the protostar to accrete mass from an accretion disk by removing angular momentum from the disk. It is highly supersonic and collimated, and predicted in theory to be launched and collimated by magnetic fields. The finding supports the theoretical prediction and confirms the role of the jet in star formation.

"Although it has been long predicted that protostellar jet is threaded with magnetic fields, no one was really sure about it. Thanks to the high-sensitivity of ALMA, we have finally confirmed the presence of magnetic fields in a protostellar jet with molecular line polarization detection. More interestingly, the magnetic fields in the jet could be helical, as seen in the jet from an active galactic nucleus (AGN). Perhaps, the same mechanism is at work to launch and collimate the jets from both protostar and AGN," says Chin-Fei Lee at ASIAA.

"The detected polarization comes from a SiO molecular line in the presence of magnetic fields," says Hsiang-Chih Hwang, who was a former NTU undergraduate student of Chin-Fei Lee modeling the polarization. "The polarized emission in the jet is so faint that we failed to detect it with Submillimeter Array. We are so excited to have finally detected it with ALMA."

HH 211 is a well-defined jet from one of the youngest protostellar systems in Perseus at a distance of about 1,000 light-years. The central powering protostar has an age of only about 10,000 years (which is about 2 millionths of the age of our sun) and a mass of about 0.05 solar mass. The jet is rich in SiO molecular gas and drives a spectacular molecular outflow around it (see the top panel in Figure 1).

Figure 2: Possible helical magnetic fields in the HH 211 jet. Blue and red images show the blueshifted and redshifted sides of the jet coming out from the disk, as shown in the bottom panel of Figure 1. The greenish helical lines show the possible magnetic field morphology in the jet. The asterisk marks the possible position of the central protostar. A size scale of our solar system is shown in the lower right corner for size comparison. Credit: ALMA (ESO/NAOJ/NRAO)/Lee et al.

With ALMA, the team zoomed in to the innermost part of the jet within 700 au of the central protostar, where the emission is the brightest in SiO. They detected SiO line polarization toward the approaching (blueshifted) side of the jet (see the bottom panel in Figure 1). The polarization has a fraction of about 1.5 percent and an orientation roughly aligned with the jet axis. This line polarization is due to the Goldreich-Kylafis effect, confirming the presence of magnetic fields in the jet. The orientation of the magnetic fields could be either toroidal or poloidal. According to the current jet launching models, the magnetic fields are expected to be helical and should be mainly toroidal there where the polarization is detected, in order to collimate the jet. Deeper observations will be proposed to detect the line polarization in the receding (redshifted) side of the jet and check for consistent morphology of the . In addition, additional SiO line will be observed in order to confirm the field morphology.

The observation opens up an exciting possibility of directly detecting and characterizing magnetic fields in protostellar jets through high-resolution and high-sensitivity imaging with ALMA, which can improve the theories of jet formation and thus our understanding for the feeding process in the innermost region of .

Credit: ALMA (ESO/NAOJ/NRAO)/Lee et al. Video editor: ASIAA/Lauren Huang

Explore further: Youngest accretion disk detected in star formation

More information: Chin-Fei Lee et al. Unveiling a magnetized jet from a low-mass protostar, Nature Communications (2018). DOI: 10.1038/s41467-018-07143-8

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theredpill
3 / 5 (8) Nov 30, 2018
"Perhaps, the same mechanism is at work to launch and collimate the jets from both protostar and AGN,"

Yup.
jonesdave
3 / 5 (10) Nov 30, 2018
"Perhaps, the same mechanism is at work to launch and collimate the jets from both protostar and AGN,"

Yup.


And? You do know that AGNs are black holes, yes? And that this is further confirmation of standard theory on star formation? Glad to see you are finally turning the corner!
theredpill
3.2 / 5 (9) Nov 30, 2018
" You do know that AGNs are black holes, yes?"

LMAO, no moron...you know they are...I know they are not.

"And that this is further confirmation of standard theory on star formation"

Ummm...OK, since they didn't mention gravity once I can go along with that idiot box.

"Glad to see you are finally turning the corner!"

I can't believe you can even see the corner I am turning with your head so far up your ass you can lick your tonsils. Now, tottle off before you stupid yourself into another rabid fit of know nothing rants and name calling...oh yeah, that is all you do. Can't wait to respond to your next salvo into idiocy.
jonesdave
2.8 / 5 (11) Nov 30, 2018
LMAO, no moron...you know they are...I know they are not.


You know nothing of the sort, and have no explanation for them.

Ummm...OK, since they didn't mention gravity once I can go along with that idiot box.


Yes they did. "...allowing the disk material to fall onto the protostars during the star formation." You think it "falls" due to.....................? Idiot.

theredpill
3.2 / 5 (9) Nov 30, 2018
"You know nothing of the sort, and have no explanation for them."

I don't need an explanation about something that doesn't exist, that is reserved for psycho's like you.

"Yes they did. "...allowing the disk material to fall onto the protostars during the star formation." You think it "falls" due to.....................? Idiot."

Well, for starters the above "quote" is from where psycho? Not anywhere in the article above...likely because the article is about jets...not the object at the center of them. You are adding your own content to the articles now and claiming it is in there....and just when I thought you couldn't get any more pathetic...
jonesdave
2.3 / 5 (9) Nov 30, 2018
I don't need an explanation about something that doesn't exist, that is reserved for psycho's like you.


Tosser! You tell us that they aren't what the whole of the astrophysics community says they are, and then cannot back up your assertion with any science! Typical EU crank.

Well, for starters the above "quote" is from where psycho?


From the f***ing paper, you blind prick.,

theredpill
3.3 / 5 (7) Nov 30, 2018
"From the f***ing paper, you blind prick.,"

I didn't say "paper", I said article you illiterate f**ktard. What kind of moron responds to a comment about an article with a quote from outside the article?

"You tell us that they aren't what the whole of the astrophysics community says they are, and then cannot back up your assertion with any science!"

It isn't science that says they are BH's idiot , it is math based on a premise nobody can confirm. So as usual, keep telling me that what we cannot observe is there because math and everyone who does the math believes they are there. I'll keep looking at the images of the region in ever finer detail laughing my ass of at your, and the mainstream astrophysics blind stupidity. Meanwhile the articles citing EM as a driver for a process keep piling up don't they?

Gravity woo is dying and the pace is picking up, thank God.
jonesdave
3 / 5 (8) Nov 30, 2018
I didn't say "paper", I said article you illiterate f**ktard. What kind of moron responds to a comment about an article with a quote from outside the article?


The article, you moron, is to make people aware of the paper. So that they can read it. Saving them from making retarded, false statements about the research.

It isn't science that says they are BH's idiot , it is math based on a premise nobody can confirm.


Wrong. It is from observation. You've been drinking too deeply of Thornhill's Kool Aid. The guy is a retard. And if you think you can explain orbital parameters without maths, you are an even bigger retard than him. If that is possible. No maths = no physics = EU.

jonesdave
2.3 / 5 (6) Nov 30, 2018
Meanwhile the articles citing EM as a driver for a process keep piling up don't they?


Nope, this is confirmation of a long held theory. Of standard astrophysics.
jonesdave
1.7 / 5 (6) Nov 30, 2018
I didn't say "paper", I said article you illiterate f**ktard. What kind of moron responds to a comment about an article with a quote from outside the article?


In which case I stand by my assertion that you are a blind prick;

Jets are believed to play an important role in star formation, enabling the protostar to accrete mass from an accretion disk by removing angular momentum from the disk.


Which is what they said in the paper, using slightly different wording.

Either way, you are obviously stupid, as well as blind. We can add comprehension to the list of skills that you lack, along with physics and maths.

theredpill
3 / 5 (8) Nov 30, 2018
"And if you think you can explain orbital parameters without maths,"

I speak English, it works pretty well when talking to others who do. It's part of the reason idiots like you get so hot under the collar, when spoken in English what your math says...it makes you and all mainstream astrophysics sound like a bunch of "Kool aid" drinkers.

" you are an even bigger retard than him. If that is possible."

Do you have any idea of how hilarious it is to people like me, that math has actually created retards? And by ripple effect a bunch of even bigger ones who don't understand the math but have faith it is correct. If this world is going advance people like you have gotta go....

" No maths = no physics = EU"

Mathematical understanding of reality = retard who doesn't understand physics.
jonesdave
1.7 / 5 (6) Nov 30, 2018
Mathematical understanding of reality = retard who doesn't understand physics.


But neither you, nor any of your fellow cultists, actually understand physics, do they? None of them are qualified in physics, and they all avoid maths like the plague. So that they can tell physically impossible fairy tales about Earth orbiting Saturn, or Venus doing handbrake turns around the solar system.

Now, without using maths, work out the mass of the Sun, based on Earth's orbital parameters.
jonesdave
1.8 / 5 (5) Nov 30, 2018
Now, without using maths, work out the mass of the Sun, based on Earth's orbital parameters.


Not surprisingly, it has all gone quiet from the EUist! Lol. Hint; English won't help you.
theredpill
3.7 / 5 (6) Nov 30, 2018
"Now, without using maths, work out the mass of the Sun, based on Earth's orbital parameters."

LMAO...using the same math try and predict the galactic rotation curve....without adding anything. Show me the picture of the BH math took, show me the sample of DM math provided, show me one fucking thing that math claims exists using something other than math you useless sack of puss.

jonesdave
2.1 / 5 (7) Nov 30, 2018
If this world is going advance people like you have gotta go....


Nope. EU wishes people like me (and pretty much every physicist on the planet) would go, so that they could keep selling idiotic, unscientific rubbish, such as electric stars, electric comets, Earth orbiting Saturn, and Venus hurtling around the solar system, to simple f***wits like you, who have neither the scientific nor mathematical knowledge to see why it is complete sh!t. They want us back in the Dark Ages, where even a tosspot like Thornhill might look like the second coming. Unfortunately for them, we are not in the Dark Ages, and most people can see him for the retard that he is.
jonesdave
1.7 / 5 (6) Nov 30, 2018
"Now, without using maths, work out the mass of the Sun, based on Earth's orbital parameters."

LMAO...using the same math try and predict the galactic rotation curve....without adding anything. Show me the picture of the BH math took, show me the sample of DM math provided, show me one fucking thing that math claims exists using something other than math you useless sack of puss.



So, you admit that you can't do it, cretin? What is the density of a 10 km^3 asteroid, of mass 2 x 10^10 kg? No maths. Just in English. Might be important if we plan to land on it. Or if it is headed straight for us. Go.
jonesdave
2.1 / 5 (7) Nov 30, 2018
Show me the picture of the BH math took


Tell me what the 4m solar mass object is at the galactic centre. That causes gravitational redshift in the light from a star when it approaches it. Do you understand why nobody takes you and your silly cult of uneducated clowns seriously?
jonesdave
2.3 / 5 (6) Nov 30, 2018
...using the same math try and predict the galactic rotation curve


I don't need to predict it. It is known. From the known rotation curve, work out the mass, and therefore the gravity, required to hold it together. Or posit a quantified alternative. I'm not seeing one.
theredpill
2.6 / 5 (5) Nov 30, 2018
"I don't need to predict it. It is known."

Yes, it was observed to be not what the math predicted.

"From the known rotation curve, work out the mass, and therefore the gravity, required to hold it together."

A perfectly mathematical solution to a mathematical problem. But what it tells you need to have isn't there so now we have a nicely written piece of fiction with no relevant analogue in reality because you had to add a massive variable in the equation that doesn't exist in reality.

"Or posit a quantified alternative. I'm not seeing one."

Well I 'll tell ya what, since NOBODY can see what you believe exists the alternative to the theory being correct, is that it is wrong.

RealityCheck
2.8 / 5 (9) Nov 30, 2018
@theredpill.

I urge you to please desist from baiting @jonesdave. It is cluttering up valuable thread space and discussions. Thanks. :)

Now, having got that out of the way, I am compelled to point out once again that, whatever is at the center of galaxies that creates the disc-jets systems, it does have MASS effects; and hence GRAVITATIONAL effects on surrounding space and energy-matter in CONJUNCTION with any E-M forces/effects due to plasmic states/distributions/motions....ie, a HYBRID FORCES system/feature/process. Such extreme mass (Note: NOT as mathematical 'central singularity') and its attendant EXTREME gravitational strength (whatever the energy-matter form/state of said mass) effectively produces gravitational 'lengthening' (redshifting) of E-M waves so extreme as to make affected 'photons' effectively so attenuated as to be subsumed into ambient QUANTUM UNCERTAINTY Vacuum Energy 'invisibility' (hence Event Horizon and BLACK HOLE designation). Ok?

Cheers. :)
jonesdave
2.5 / 5 (8) Nov 30, 2018
"I don't need to predict it. It is known."

Yes, it was observed to be not what the math predicted.

"From the known rotation curve, work out the mass, and therefore the gravity, required to hold it together."

A perfectly mathematical solution to a mathematical problem. But what it tells you need to have isn't there so now we have a nicely written piece of fiction with no relevant analogue in reality because you had to add a massive variable in the equation that doesn't exist in reality.

"Or posit a quantified alternative. I'm not seeing one."

Well I 'll tell ya what, since NOBODY can see what you believe exists the alternative to the theory being correct, is that it is wrong.



Clueless word salad. No science. Should be ignored. Will be. Back to mythology, woo boy. Science isn't your thing. Can't do maths, can't do physics. You lose.
jonesdave
2.5 / 5 (8) Nov 30, 2018
Well I 'll tell ya what, since NOBODY can see what you believe exists the alternative to the theory being correct, is that it is wrong.


And I'll tell you what, Saturn-boy; we OBSERVE the orbits of the stars around Sgr A*. They indicate a 4m solar mass object. We OBSERVE gravitational redshift as star S2 reaches its closest pass to Sgr A*. That indicates a massive object. We OBSERVE Sgr A* in IR when it flares. Indicating the accretion disk. And we likely already have an image of the silhouette of the event horizon. What do you want to call that? Like I said; stick to mythology, you moron.

Da Schneib
3 / 5 (6) Nov 30, 2018
@105LiarRC claims that this is a galactic center phenomenon.

It's about 1,000 light years away, less than 1/30 of the way to the galactic center.

Fixing up my links for the additional thread lied on.
jonesdave
2.7 / 5 (7) Nov 30, 2018
It's about 1,000 light years away, less than 1/30 of the way to the galactic center.


Sorry Da Schneib, I've lost track here. What is 1 000 ly away?
RealityCheck
3 / 5 (6) Nov 30, 2018
@Da Schneib.
@105LiarRC claims that this is a galactic center phenomenon.

It's about 1,000 light years away, less than 1/30 of the way to the galactic center.

Fixing up my links for the additional thread lied on.
The BLACK HOLE feature at galactic center is what I was explaining to @theredpill. Even @jonesdave is perplexed by your misconstruing things, DS. Try harder to actually read and understand properly in context so you don't make these blunders, mate. :)
Da Schneib
3 / 5 (4) Nov 30, 2018
Double post.
Da Schneib
3 / 5 (6) Nov 30, 2018
It's about 1,000 light years away, less than 1/30 of the way to the galactic center.


Sorry Da Schneib, I've lost track here. What is 1 000 ly away?

The location of the star. From the article.
HH 211 is a well-defined jet from one of the youngest protostellar systems in Perseus at a distance of about 1,000 light-years.
cantdrive85
1.8 / 5 (5) Nov 30, 2018
Plasmoids create jets, whether on a stellar or galactic scale.
https://lppfusion...esearch/
jonesdave
2.6 / 5 (5) Dec 01, 2018
It's about 1,000 light years away, less than 1/30 of the way to the galactic center.


Sorry Da Schneib, I've lost track here. What is 1 000 ly away?

The location of the star. From the article.
HH 211 is a well-defined jet from one of the youngest protostellar systems in Perseus at a distance of about 1,000 light-years.


Ahhh, sorry. I'd lost track of the article, with all the talk of AGNs and such! Yes, we are talking about a protostar here.
jonesdave
2.6 / 5 (5) Dec 01, 2018
Plasmoids create jets, whether on a stellar or galactic scale.
https://lppfusion...esearch/


And this is not a plasmoid. Lol. You are obsessed with ****ing plasmoids, you loon. Learn some science, yes?
Da Schneib
3.4 / 5 (5) Dec 01, 2018
That's OK, @Jones, I figured you'd be mildly embarrassed but I didn't figure it would leave a mark. ;)
RealityCheck
2.6 / 5 (5) Dec 01, 2018
@Da Schneib.You haven't addressed this latest blunder of yours:
@Da Schneib.
@105LiarRC claims that this is a galactic center phenomenon.

It's about 1,000 light years away, less than 1/30 of the way to the galactic center.

Fixing up my links for the additional thread lied on.
The BLACK HOLE feature at galactic center is what I was explaining to @theredpill. Even @jonesdave is perplexed by your misconstruing things, DS. Try harder to actually read and understand properly in context so you don't make these blunders, mate. :)
How about admitting your latest blunder, stopping your misconceived trolling/lying campaigns, and apologize for trolling me again herein from your own misconstruing of what I posted, DS?

Good luck with your choices, DS. :)
granville583762
5 / 5 (2) Dec 01, 2018
The ugly troll's bridge
RealityCheck> @theredpill.
I urge you to please desist from baiting @jonesdave. It is cluttering up valuable thread space and discussions. Thanks. :)

RealityCheck
.....................Baiting, and from the mouths of babes comes this descriptive
We have yet to find a comment of yours
including this one RealityCheck
that is not insinuated
in some form or other
That is only described as baiting
cantdrive85
2.3 / 5 (6) Dec 01, 2018
And this is not a plasmoid. Lol. You are obsessed with ****ing plasmoids,

Given the observed jets along with numerous other phenomena that match these plasma phenomena the likelihood this is a plasmoid is very high despite your willfully ignorant claims.
And you are obsessed with faerie dust, all things black and unobservable. Learn some science, yes?
granville583762
5 / 5 (2) Dec 01, 2018
The ugly troll's bridge

RealityCheck
.....................As you quite rightly encourage theredpill and all not to bait
and we applaud this commendable advice
free from competition
you go full steam ahead
in one almighty collective baiting episode
The like of which these commentary boards have seen in aeons
granville583762
5 / 5 (2) Dec 01, 2018
Spiralling, inward spiralling fields
And this is not a plasmoid. Lol. You are obsessed with ****ing plasmoids,

cantdrive85 > Given the observed jets along with numerous other phenomena that match these plasma phenomena the likelihood this is a plasmoid is very high despite your wilfully ignorant claims.
And you are obsessed with faerie dust, all things black and unobservable. Learn some science, yes?

What is intriguing cantdrive
Are these spiralling, inward spiralling magnetic fields enclosing this plasmoid
jonesdave
2.6 / 5 (5) Dec 01, 2018
And this is not a plasmoid. Lol. You are obsessed with ****ing plasmoids,

Given the observed jets along with numerous other phenomena that match these plasma phenomena the likelihood this is a plasmoid is very high despite your willfully ignorant claims.
And you are obsessed with faerie dust, all things black and unobservable. Learn some science, yes?


No, it is not. Evidence?
cantdrive85
2 / 5 (4) Dec 01, 2018
Evidence?

The observed jets, those giant stellar electric currents.
RealityCheck
2 / 5 (4) Dec 01, 2018
@granville583762.
you go full steam ahead
in one almighty collective baiting episode
The like of which these commentary boards have seen in aeons
Granville, try harder to discern the important difference between me (who is defending against the trolls/baiters) and those who are actually doing the baiting/trolling.
jonesdave
3 / 5 (6) Dec 01, 2018
Evidence?

The observed jets, those giant stellar electric currents.


What currents? Evidence? I don't think you know the first thing about what you're talking about. This thing has been observed for around 20 years. It is a protostar. Just like many others in the Perseus cloud. Stop making sh!t up. It gets tiresome.
cantdrive85
2.3 / 5 (6) Dec 01, 2018
What currents? Evidence?

Those jets are electric currents moron. It is a fact.
jonesdave
3 / 5 (6) Dec 01, 2018
What currents? Evidence?

Those jets are electric currents moron. It is a fact.


Evidence, woo boy. And who is saying this object is a plasmoid? Link please. Otherwise, STFU.
cantdrive85
2.3 / 5 (6) Dec 01, 2018
Those jets are electric currents moron. It is a fact.


Evidence, woo boy

How about the huge flow of plasma? Or the helical magnetic fields surrounding them? Contrary to your beliefs jonesdumb, magnetic fields are not magic. It is a plain simple fact given first principles of plasma physics, to which you obviously haven't a clue.
jonesdave
3 / 5 (6) Dec 01, 2018
Those jets are electric currents moron. It is a fact.


Evidence, woo boy

How about the huge flow of plasma? Or the helical magnetic fields surrounding them? Contrary to your beliefs jonesdumb, magnetic fields are not magic. It is a plain simple fact given first principles of plasma physics, to which you obviously haven't a clue.


You certainly haven't, as proven. I asked for evidence that this was a plasmoid, and who was making that claim, other than a Velikovskian nutjob on a comments section. I'll take your silence to infer that you made it up.
cantdrive85
3 / 5 (4) Dec 01, 2018
Did you miss the link to Lerner above? Or being willfully ignorant again?
jonesdave
3 / 5 (6) Dec 01, 2018
Did you miss the link to Lerner above? Or being willfully ignorant again?


I see no link. And Lerner is not a good reference. However, if he is saying these protostars are plasmoids, then he is a moron.
cantdrive85
3 / 5 (5) Dec 01, 2018
And Lerner is not a good reference

The guy who developed a quantitative model of the dense plasma focus and has been working with plasmoids for over 30-years is not a good reference? Alrighty then...

BTW, the plasmoid provides the forces required to form stars.
jonesdave
2.6 / 5 (5) Dec 01, 2018
And Lerner is not a good reference

The guy who developed a quantitative model of the dense plasma focus and has been working with plasmoids for over 30-years is not a good reference? Alrighty then...


And is pretty crap at astrophysics, and is essentially ignored.

http://prepostero...ted.html

BTW, the plasmoid provides the forces required to form stars.


Really? Link please. I haven't heard this before. Not saying it isn't involved, just want to read it.
granville583762
5 / 5 (2) Dec 01, 2018
A plasmoid is plasma and magnetic fields Plasmoids explain natural phenomena such as ball lightning magnetic bubbles in the magnetosphere and objects in cometary tails in the solar wind in the solar atmosphere in the heliospheric current sheet
Those jets are electric currents moron It is a fact

Evidence, woo boy

cantdrive85> How about the huge flow of plasma Or the helical magnetic fields surrounding them Contrary to your beliefs jonesdumb magnetic fields are not magic It is a plain simple fact given first principles of plasma physics to which you obviously haven't a clue

Apparently plasmoids magnetic fields and electric currents occur in plasmoids
unless we are all mistaken
this starlet
is emitting magnetic fields in plasma
it is theorised
it is believed
it is an undeniable fact
starlets are created in plasma
this known to every one
except those rare few who suffer fin rot
because they live under a bridge
granville583762
5 / 5 (2) Dec 01, 2018
The ugly troll's bridge
granville
you go full steam ahead in one almighty collective baiting episode
RealityCheck> granville try harder to discern the important difference between me who is defending against the trolls baiters and those who are actually doing the baiting trolling

I'm on your side RealityCheck
they are upset RC
at first it was these boards being taken over by the religious fringe
but then RC
JD who led this charge to freedom
as you know RC
makes more use of religious phrases than anyone
and incorporates them in his expletives
that makes Beelzebub blush
As I said they're deeply upset
and they are upset
concerning a matter
which is no concern of their's
they have to curb their tendencies
as ultimately they know the solution
and that the solution RC is out of every ones hands
in the mean time
till that time
Their festering with fin rot and its driving them out of their minds
jonesdave
2 / 5 (4) Dec 01, 2018
***Their*** festering with fin rot and its driving them out of their minds


They are. Or they're. Not 'their'. That is the possessive, meaning 'belonging to'. As in, "it's their ball."
Aren't you lucky that there is somebody from the civilised side of the Pennines to educate you?
Benni
2.6 / 5 (5) Dec 01, 2018
***Their*** festering with fin rot and its driving them out of their minds


They are. Or they're. Not 'their'. That is the possessive, meaning 'belonging to'. As in, "it's their ball."
Aren't you lucky that there is somebody from the civilised side of the Pennines to educate you?


.....you're right granDy, just look at jonesy here.
jonesdave
2.3 / 5 (3) Dec 01, 2018
***Their*** festering with fin rot and its driving them out of their minds


They are. Or they're. Not 'their'. That is the possessive, meaning 'belonging to'. As in, "it's their ball."
Aren't you lucky that there is somebody from the civilised side of the Pennines to educate you?


Ironically 'their' comes from Old Norse. Which I thought was still spoken in Yorkshire :)
jonesdave
2.3 / 5 (3) Dec 01, 2018
***Their*** festering with fin rot and its driving them out of their minds


They are. Or they're. Not 'their'. That is the possessive, meaning 'belonging to'. As in, "it's their ball."
Aren't you lucky that there is somebody from the civilised side of the Pennines to educate you?


.....you're right granDy, just look at jonesy here.


What's your problem, bozo? Do you need some educating as well? Like, what is a half-life? Why isn't an expanding Universe breaking the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics? Or, what causes the gravitational redshift around Sgr A*?
granville583762
5 / 5 (1) Dec 01, 2018
The ugly troll's bridge
***Their*** festering with fin rot and its driving them out of their minds


They are. Or they're. Not 'their'. That is the possessive, meaning 'belonging to'. As in, "it's their ball."
Aren't you lucky that there is somebody from the civilised side of the Pennines to educate you?


.....you're right granDy, just look at jonesy here.

Spot on Benni
They hide under the bridge waiting for unsuspecting commentators
jonesdave
3 / 5 (4) Dec 01, 2018
Spot on Benni
They hide under the bridge waiting for unsuspecting commentators


.....Who obviously never did well enough at school to know the difference between 'to' & 'too'. And 'their' & 'they're'. You'd have got 500 lines at my schools. 'Their' is the possessive. Write it out 500 times. Do not leave class until you have finished.
granville583762
3 / 5 (2) Dec 01, 2018
A brief moment in time between fin rot
***Their*** festering with fin rot and its driving them out of their minds

They are. Or they're. Not 'their'. That is the possessive, meaning 'belonging to'. As in, "it's their ball."
Aren't you lucky that there is somebody from the civilised side of the Pennines to educate you?

I knew you could do it JD
The difficult part
is the part
is the limit
as to the length of time
before the fin rot
Takes its toll
granville583762
1 / 5 (1) Dec 01, 2018
Those brief magical properties of fin rot

Who would have thought Benni
Elocution lesson from JD
may be there's some thing to this fin rot
some magical properties that has alluded chemists
in search of that alchemists dream
though its not recommended
to join this motley crew
these grumpy malevolerants
just to experience the brief benefits of fin rot
during this coming yuletide
as we sit round our festive fires Benni
as you throw another log
onto that roaring fire
spare a moment's thought
for those
who live under a bridge
with their fin rot
jonesdave
3 / 5 (4) Dec 01, 2018
Elocution lesson from JD


Nope, grammar and spelling. Absolutely no point teaching elocution to Yorkshire people.
Da Schneib
5 / 5 (3) Dec 01, 2018
@granny is a Me-too: http://www.flamew...etoo.htm

To @105LiarRC''s BigDog.
jonesdave
3.7 / 5 (3) Dec 01, 2018
@granny is a Me-too: http://www.flamew...etoo.htm

To @105LiarRC''s BigDog.


I've always pictured RC as a big pussy. However, we digress.........
granville583762
not rated yet Dec 01, 2018
A brief moment in time between fin rot
Elocution lesson from JD

Nope, grammar and spelling. Absolutely no point teaching elocution to Yorkshire people.

The difficult part
is the part
is the limit
as to the length of time
before the fin rot
takes its toll
the fin rot has taken its toll
Normal service is resumed
Da Schneib
5 / 5 (3) Dec 01, 2018
Let's use the British terminolgy: @105LiarRC is a giant cunt with leprosy, tertiary syphilis and gonorrhea. Maybe even black plague.
jonesdave
4 / 5 (4) Dec 01, 2018
Let's use the British terminolgy: @105LiarRC is a giant cunt with leprosy, tertiary syphilis and gonorrhea. Maybe even black plague.


Bastard! I just spat beer all over my monitor!
RealityCheck
1 / 5 (3) Dec 01, 2018
@Forum.

Talk about insensitive loser-trolls gang! On display for all to see:

From that very Troll-gangs' own foul drunken mouths...

Drunk-babbles @Da Schneib troll:
@granny is a Me-too: http://www.flamew...etoo.htm

To @105LiarRC''s BigDog.

Drunk-babbles 'me-too-DS' @jonesdave troll:
I've always pictured RC as a big pussy. However, we digress.........

Drunk-babbles again @Da Schneib troll:
Let's use the British terminolgy: @105LiarRC is a giant cunt with leprosy, tertiary syphilis and gonorrhea. Maybe even black plague.
Drunk-babbles again 'me-drunk-too-DS' @jonesdave troll:
Bastard! I just spat beer all over my monitor!

And there you have it again clear as day, folks. Two insensible foul-mouthed troll twerps having a 'drunken conversation' over the internet. Is it any wonder Benni/cantdrive85 et al make fun of these loser-gang trolls who don't know when to keep their drunken mouths shut. Too Sad.
jonesdave
4 / 5 (4) Dec 01, 2018
And there you have it again clear as day, folks. Two insensible foul-mouthed troll twerps having a 'drunken conversation' over the internet. Is it any wonder Benni/cantdrive85 et al make fun of these loser-gang trolls who don't know when to keep their drunken mouths shut. Too Sad.


As opposed to an uneducated Australian f***wit babbling on about sh!t that he isn't even close to understanding. Wanker.

Da Schneib
5 / 5 (1) Dec 01, 2018
Hey, don't whine little cunt, I just let him call me a bastard and not only laughed but gave him 5 stars!
RealityCheck
1 / 5 (2) Dec 01, 2018
@jonesdave.
And there you have it again clear as day, folks. Two insensible foul-mouthed troll twerps having a 'drunken conversation' over the internet. Is it any wonder Benni/cantdrive85 et al make fun of these loser-gang trolls who don't know when to keep their drunken mouths shut. Too Sad.
As opposed to an uneducated Australian f***wit babbling on about sh!t that he isn't even close to understanding. Wanker.
You just effectively tacitly admitted to being drunk, jd! Your drunken insults now are just more 'drunk troll noises' from the corner, jd. Go sober up; and wise up, jd. :)

@Da Schneib.
Hey, don't whine little cunt, I just let him call me a bastard and not only laughed but gave him 5 stars!
You're so insensibly drunk that you probably have no inkling as to just how (even more than before) stupid and malignant you effectively come across to the intelligent readers, DS. Go sober up; and wise up, DS. :)
Da Schneib
5 / 5 (1) Dec 01, 2018
Everybody have a brewski and make @105LiarRC declaim that we're all drunks!

Here's to ya, little liar cunt. And as we say in the States, up yours. Mate. In Lagunitas IPA.
Da Schneib
5 / 5 (1) Dec 01, 2018
Here's a theory, with as much evidence as @105LiarRC has ever presented:

It is a Mormon troll with twelve wives pretending to be Australian. And five of the "wives" are under 15.
RealityCheck
1 / 5 (2) Dec 01, 2018
@Forum.

More drunken babble from @Da Schneib troll:
Everybody have a brewski and make @105LiarRC declaim that we're all drunks!
Note how DS is now acting just like a drunk in the gutter trying to get others drunk and join him in the gutter. Sad.
Here's to ya, little liar cunt. And as we say in the States, up yours. Mate. In Lagunitas IPA.
And note how the DS troll's drunken foulmouthed persona is betrayed by his own foul drunken mouth. Sad.
Here's a theory, with as much evidence as @105LiarRC has ever presented: It is a Mormon troll with twelve wives pretending to be Australian. And five of the "wives" are under 15.
Note further how he drunkenly implies that anyone not approving of or not joining him in his drunken stupor "must be Mormon". What makes it beyond tragic is the fact everyone (including DS himself, when he is sober enough to think/recall straight) knows by now that I am Atheist since age 9.

Pity this insensible DS drunken troll, folks. Sad.
Da Schneib
5 / 5 (1) Dec 01, 2018
Present evidence I'm wrong and I'll retract. But it will have to be good evidence. And I'll use your standards.

Enjoying schtupping those 12-year-old girls?
RealityCheck
1 / 5 (2) Dec 01, 2018
@Forum.
Present evidence I'm wrong and I'll retract. But it will have to be good evidence. And I'll use your standards.

Enjoying schtupping those 12-year-old girls?
Note the drunken desperation now creeping into the DS troll's tactics to deny and divert from his drunken foulmouthed atrocities and blunders due to not being sober/lucid enough to read and understand properly in context and then trolling drunkenly all over the floors of PO forum. Sad and nasty.
Da Schneib
5 / 5 (1) Dec 01, 2018
When are you going to stop screwing 12-year-old girls, mormon liar and POS @105LiarRC?
RealityCheck
1 / 5 (2) Dec 01, 2018
@Forum.

When are you going to stop screwing 12-year-old girls, mormon liar and POS @105LiarRC?
Note how the drunken DS troll lashes out feebly from his drunken sprawl in his gutter, clutching at any drunk-imagined 'straw' that might (in his drink-impaired brain-mind) stave off his final self-wrought humiliation. The poor drunken DS wretch obviously can't 'recall' that I am Atheist since age 9, as every 'old hand' here at PO must surely know by now after all these years. Sad desperate wretch attacks others while drunk and malignant himself. Sad and nasty.
Da Schneib
5 / 5 (1) Dec 01, 2018
What I say about you is no more or less outrageous than what you say about me.

What's the matter 12-year-old screwing @105LiarRC? This is what your self-aggrandizing tactics have brought this site to. We all thought you would like it, just like you fantasized those 12-year-old girls would.
Da Schneib
5 / 5 (1) Dec 01, 2018
Double post.
Da Schneib
5 / 5 (1) Dec 01, 2018
Maybe sometime soon we can discuss this interesting early star's etiology without completely off-topic maunderings about drunkenness and its weird ideas which include raping 12-year-old girls.
RealityCheck
1 / 5 (2) Dec 01, 2018
@Forum.
What I say about you is no more or less outrageous than what you say about me. What's the matter 12-year-old screwing @105LiarRC? This is what your self-aggrandizing tactics have brought this site to. We all thought you would like it, just like you fantasized those 12-year-old girls would.
Note how the DS troll is now attempting the lame gambit of trying to "draw an equivalence' to his own nasty drunken troll behavior and blunders due to his not reading and understanding properly in context while attacking his own strawmen. Note further how this drunken-fevered DS troll still doesn't 'get it' that 'it's just not smart' to drunkenly and malignantly troll and attack someone (me) who recent PO articles have (yet again) confirmed (me) correct all along on many of the longstanding issues/points I have been trying to 'get through' to DS and his 'Bot 5 gang' 'friends' equally as incorrigible as DS is proving to be; and hence a tragic waste of intellect/time. Sad.
Da Schneib
5 / 5 (1) Dec 01, 2018
Bastard! I just spat beer all over my monitor!
Just out or curiosity, what's your tipple? I drink locally made IPAs generally. I can name mine but I don't figure you've ever heard of them.
Da Schneib
5 / 5 (1) Dec 01, 2018
Considering you lied on 105 threads and you haven't shown one lie I've told and are reduced to one time I admitted I was wrong, when you never have, @12YORaping105LiarRC, I'm frankly surprised you think you have the face to even think of saying anything about me.
RealityCheck
1 / 5 (2) Dec 01, 2018
@Forum.
Bastard! I just spat beer all over my monitor!
Just out or curiosity, what's your tipple? I drink locally made IPAs generally. I can name mine but I don't figure you've ever heard of them.
Note again how the 'main drunkard' DS is trying to engage the 'me too' drunk jd in 'conversation' comparing which brand/style of 'booze' they 'prefer' to get insensibly drunk with. How insensible can this DS troll BE, to do this sort of drunk-to-drunk 'connection'....ON A SCIENCE SITE! Yes, that insensible, folks. Sad.
Da Schneib
5 / 5 (1) Dec 01, 2018
@12YORaping105LiarRC, I can't see a reason you're still posting here except to troll.

Particularly when you have nothing to say about the jets emerging from the star which is the main topic of this article.

Would you like to tell us about the 12-year-olds you raped tonight? Personally I'd pass, but de gustibus non disputandum.
RealityCheck
1 / 5 (3) Dec 01, 2018
@Forum.
Considering you lied on 105 threads and you haven't shown one lie I've told and are reduced to one time I admitted I was wrong, when you never have, @12YORaping105LiarRC, I'm frankly surprised you think you have the face to even think of saying anything about me.
Note how the DS troll blatantly lied just now. There were two instances over the last couple of days alone where DS has blatantly BLUNDERED and LIED about me and my posts. I even posted the proof. But so far DS's insensible drunk trolling has been the only 'response', completely and drunkenly impervious to reason and proof of his lies and blunders put right under his nose! Note now how the poor drunken desperate DS wretch tries the "Raping" tag gambit. Obviously 'projecting' his own desires to rape young girls. We can only wait and see just how low this DS wretch will go before some true friend (if he has any) takes him aside and help him sober/sane up. We all can but hope, hey folks? Sad.
Da Schneib
5 / 5 (1) Dec 01, 2018
@12YORaping105LiarRC, you can only troll so long. Then everyone knows. Go infest someplace else.

Nobody cares if you drink here. It's your disgusting self-aggrandizement directed lying that irritates everyone. In case you didn't notice you've been told off by three actual scientists. I wonder how many more saw your lies and decided they'd rather stick to better moderated fora?
Captain Stumpy
5 / 5 (2) Dec 01, 2018
@idiot illiterate sam fodera the pseudoscience trolling fraudulent criminal from oz
You just effectively tacitly admitted to being drunk, jd!
actually, no
admission to spitting beer on a monitor is not equivalent to being drunk anymore than your admission of not being gay makes you a pedophile
I am Atheist since age 9
irrelevant appeal is irrelevant
@Forum
@forum replies: this is 8,313 posts with no evidence anywhere of your 4 fatal flaws
reported for fraud, lying, whinging, being an idiot and pseudoscience
DS and his 'Bot 5 gang'
you need to make up your mind: is it my gang or DS's gang?
actually, it doesn't matter because the "gang" doesn't exist
you just never produce evidence and you lie, so you're downrated
Note how ... blatantly lied
you mean like you've been doing for 8,313 posts?

reported
RealityCheck
1 / 5 (2) Dec 01, 2018
@Forum.
@12YORaping105LiarRC, I can't see a reason you're still posting here except to troll. Particularly when you have nothing to say about the jets emerging from the star which is the main topic of this article.
Note how the DS tragic troll plays the 'disingenuous' card now, trying to divert from his earlier blunder which I posted proof of more than once right under his drunken troll snout. Note as well DS still betraying his sick penchant for raping little girls that he is still drunkenly attempting to 'project' onto someone else. Sick.
Would you like to tell us about the 12-year-olds you raped tonight? Personally I'd pass, but de gustibus non disputandum.
Note more evidence of his secret sick obsession with little girls. Sicker and sicker.
@12YORaping105LiarRC, you can only troll so long. Then everyone knows. Go infest someplace else.
Note the drunk, sick, insensible DS troll tragic seems totally oblivious to the dripping irony attending his words. Bad.
Da Schneib
5 / 5 (1) Dec 01, 2018
@12YORaping105LiarRC, you just lie. You lie about everything. Every post you make contains a lie. You accuse me of "playing cards;" you play lies.

Have you stopped raping 12-year-old girls? Yes or no.
RealityCheck
1 / 5 (2) Dec 01, 2018
PS @Forum:

Note again how the CS-gang leader who patented and taught to DS troll his very own "TL;DR Method of Research" which requires 'scrupulously' NOT READING and UNDERSTANDING in CONTEXT...and just proceeding straight to attacking in ignorance, strawmanning, insulting and assorted trolling gambits...despite my being confirmed correct, then and now, by mainstream articles here at PO. What can one say of this blatantly bot-voting trolling ignoramus calling himself "Captain Stumpy", when his main 'contribution' to this site has been a campaign of corrupting and sabotaging science discourse and the ethics of anyone unfortunate enough to have gotten ensnared by this unconscionably dishonest and nasty CS-gangleader of his "TL;DR" 'Bot 5 gang' of twerps? Sad and nasty.

Da Schneib
not rated yet Dec 01, 2018
Yes or no, @12YORaping105LiarRC.
RealityCheck
1 / 5 (2) Dec 01, 2018
@Forum.
@12YORaping105LiarRC, you just lie. You lie about everything. Every post you make contains a lie. You accuse me of "playing cards;" you play lies.

Have you stopped raping 12-year-old girls? Yes or no.
Note how the drunken DS wretch is so bereft of thinking faculty that he defaults to that old "have you stopped beating your wife" juvenile schtick, totally unaware that he is continuing to unconsciously betray his own sick penchant for little girls for the whole internet to see. Stupid and drunk; and sick and nasty. What a combination! Poor slob.

PS: And this just in, folks, from the foul mouthed, and as he has now betrayed, even more-foul minded, DS drunken troll tragic:
Yes or no, @12YORaping105LiarRC.
And there it is, folks; his trolling gambit has shrunken as much as his brain has, from his obvious boozing and just as obvious now, his secret obsession with little girls and violence. Sick slob.
Da Schneib
5 / 5 (1) Dec 01, 2018
@12YORaping105LiarRC lies again trying to get away. You're under the flyswatter, @12YORaping105LiarRC.
RealityCheck
1 / 5 (2) Dec 01, 2018
@Forum.
@12YORaping105LiarRC lies again trying to get away. You're under the flyswatter, @12YORaping105LiarRC.
Note how the poor DS slob deludes himself that I am the one "trying to get away"...even as I keep responding to his ever-more bizarre and hugely revealing posts about his hidden obsession with little girls as well as his self-indicated drink habit/problems. Poor sick drunken DS slob. Where are his true friends? Has he none prepared to take him in hand and help him get well? Sad.
Captain Stumpy
5 / 5 (2) Dec 01, 2018
@idiot illiterate sam fodera the pseudoscience trolling fraudulent criminal from oz
gang leader
lie
who patented and taught
lie
which requires 'scrupulously' NOT READING and UNDERSTANDING in CONTEXT
assumption based upon ignorance, being illiterate and stupidity
also - a lie
proceeding straight to attacking in ignorance
lie

- all of my statements factual
strawmanning
lie
insulting
labelling with evidence based factual representations you've demonstrated, so that's a lie too
despite my being confirmed
lie
his main 'contribution' blah blah lie blah
lie
gangleader
repeated lie
Sad and nasty
projection

.

you made the 4 fatal flaws comment, your burden of proof
neither I nor anyone else can find any evidence of your 4 fatal flaws anywhere
you continue to post pseudoscience, lies and fraudulent claims

reported for fraud, false claims, pseudoscience and being a criminal idiot
RealityCheck
1 / 5 (3) Dec 01, 2018
@Forum.

And there again goes, CS, the original and still standing leader of the now-infamous "TL;DR" Bot-5-gang of trolling ignoramuses; and the one whose ethics-corrupting influence is mostly responsible for the tragic downfall of his 'DS protege', even now playing out before our very eyes on the internet.

This CS-malignancy has a lot to answer for, folks. Keep an eye out for his insidious corrupting influence wherever you go on the forums.

Always stay true to objectivity and fairness regardless of personal cost, everyone. For if life is suffering, then, if one must suffer, it's more intelligent and productive for the wider good to suffer while 'doing the right thing' than to do so while 'doing the wrong thing'. Good luck, folks.
Captain Stumpy
5 / 5 (2) Dec 02, 2018
@Forum
@lying idiot illiterate sam fodera the pseudoscience trolling fraudulent criminal from oz
TL;DR
Always stay true to objectivity and fairness regardless of personal cost, everyone
if you're true to objectivity and fairness, where are the 4 fatal and 4 other flaws in the free access BICEP2 paper

better yet, since you made the claim that it's posted here on PO, link the thread(s) where you spell out the 4 fatal and 4 other flaws since no one else can find it - not even google

8,318 posts without evidence and counting
Verified by the site admin, MIT and numerous posters here

.

your post above is being reported for fraud, pseudoscience, martyr-victim complex, D-K and blatantly repeating lies

EDIT
you will now post a reply to ensure you have the last word
it will be lies
it will be projection
it will be bullsh*t whinging
it will be reported
just like all the above posts
Da Schneib
5 / 5 (2) Dec 02, 2018
Tell us, @12YORaping105LiarRC, why do so many people hate you? Do you even stop to consider the implications of this? You are hated worse than @Zeph. Have you no shame, sir? After all that we have seen, have you no shame?
RealityCheck
1 / 5 (3) Dec 02, 2018
@Forum.

BY now 'old hands' will be aware that this CS-malignancy invented, patented the infamous CS-gang's "TL;DR Method of Researching" which had failed to 'find' things which he should have been paying objective and fair attention to at the times they were posted; instead of trolling in the very threads where the things appeared and he 'missed' due to his much boasted CS-gang's "TL;DR Method of Researching"....which essentially consisted of NOT READING and UNDERSTANDING properly in CONTEXT while TROLLING NISILY and cluttering the thread, followed immediately by unwarranted attacks and insults against the messenger whose message he did not heed (ie, to check out the obviously flawed Bicep2 'work' for themselves before again attempting t 'bash cranks' with that flawed 'work'). This CS-malignancy has never gotten over the egg-on-face fiasco of his 'Bt 5 gang' who 'just believed' uncritically and crowed and bashed cranks with that patently flawed 'work'. Hence CS's rabidity.
Captain Stumpy
5 / 5 (2) Dec 02, 2018
called that one right on the money

Epic win is epic
RealityCheck
1 / 5 (3) Dec 02, 2018
@Forum.
Tell us, @12YORaping105LiarRC, why do so many people hate you? Do you even stop to consider the implications of this? You are hated worse than @Zeph. Have you no shame, sir? After all that we have seen, have you no shame?
When the trolling DS sicko drunken child molester starts saying things like "why do so many people hate you", then its 'game over' for said sicko's trolling campaign. Because, as all intelligent readers and 'old hands' here would be aware, the ONLY "people" who supposedly "hate" me are trolls whom I've had good cause and effect to confront, expose and correct over the years.

Example: the troll CS-'Bot 5 gang' who attacked me for having the temerity to urge them to desist from 'bashing cranks' and check out the obviously flawed Bicep2 'work' for themselves so as to avoid THEIR embarrassment. They didn't listen; they attacked, insulted, trolled me instead;. Now THEY "hate" me with a vengeance. They HATE objective/impartial posters. Obviously.
RealityCheck
1 / 5 (3) Dec 02, 2018
@Forum.

You'll note how CS, the malignant "Bot 5s' troll gang leader, and the one most responsible for DS's descent into mental self-destruction playing out on the internet before our eyes of late, again eggs on the poor DS schmuck CS has been 'using' for his own twisted agenda. This CS malignancy cares not a whit for DS; only cares about corrupting ethics and character in order to control and exploit these unfortunates who have fallen into his insidious web of deceit and malice. Woe betide any who trust and so fall for CS's pretense that he cares about them or science. It is just a ruse to lull gullible unfortunates into a false sense of 'friendship' and trust; which sooner or later 'morphs' into his betrayal of any personal info these unfortunates were gulled into divulging to him or any other of his CS-gang members. It's like a criminal cult, only dressed in a pretense of 'defending science'. CS-gang's sick, foulmouthed trolling betrays their true agendas. Shameful.
Da Schneib
5 / 5 (2) Dec 02, 2018
And another 5 threads where @12YORapist105LiarRC shows its lies:

Thread where @105LiarRC lies about "not belonging to... EU crowd:" https://phys.org/...ted.html
Thread where @105LiarRC claims time is somehow motion: https://phys.org/...mic.html
Thread where @105LiarRC claims the polar outflows from a planetary nebula are a Z-pinch (standard EUdiot drivel, despite its claims it's not an EUdiot): https://phys.org/...ula.html
Thread where @105LiarRC claims the long-debunked "tired light" hypothesis of the Babble-thumpers is still viable: https://phys.org/...rse.html
Thread where @105LiarRC claims scientists are engaged in a giant conspiracy to hide the fact that the Big Bang isn't real: https://phys.org/...ion.html
RealityCheck
1 / 5 (3) Dec 02, 2018
@Forum.

How pitiful. The DS tragedy grinds on towards its inevitable denouement. Poor DS never listens or learns. He apparently has no true friends that would take him aside and counsel him to stop digging and sober up. Pitiful.
Captain Stumpy
5 / 5 (2) Dec 02, 2018
CS, the malignant "Bot 5s' troll gang leader
known libel
the one most responsible for DS's descent
known libel
ggs on the poor DS
unsupported conjecture not based in evidence
CS has been 'using'
known libel
This CS malignancy cares not a whit for DS
libel
only cares about corrupting ethics and character in order to control and exploit
known libel
It is just a ruse to lull gullible unfortunates
known libel
his betrayal of any personal info
known libel
It's like a criminal cult,
known libel
earthling club
wire fraud, fraud, threat to health, intentional swindle
who attacked me for having the temerity to urge them to desist from 'bashing cranks'
known libel
check out the obviously flawed Bicep2 'work'
libel, fraud, defamation of scientists
They HATE objective/impartial posters
known libel

reported to ACORN
https://report.acorn.gov.au/
RealityCheck
1 / 5 (3) Dec 02, 2018
@Forum.

Did you all see that just now from the CS-malignancy? The irony and hypocrisy astounds! CS, the quintessential and most malignant libeler, liar, troll; and the bot-voting gang of nincompoops' leading criminally malicious nincompoop, has just posted a 'version of reality' according to his delusional "results" of his self-confessed, and now infamous, CS-"TL;DR Research Method". One would laugh fit to burst if it wasn't so tragic. Sad.
Captain Stumpy
5 / 5 (2) Dec 02, 2018
@sam fodera
@Forum
as this is published to "someone other than the person defamed" (me) this is called defamation and it's a major no-no in Oz law
liar
known libel - you have no evidence that I lied about anything
bot-voting gang of nincompoops
known libel
leading criminally malicious nincompoop
known libel
delusional "results" of his self-confessed, and now infamous, CS-"TL;DR Research Method".
nonsensical claim, known libel, no evidence

also note: it's illegal for you to collect monies for known pseudoscience (your earthling club) as it is "obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises" (ToE) - therefore, your repeated actions and admissions from this site are being reported as wire fraud

you posted your own physical address on the site, so don't worry about that part

.

reported to ACORN
again
https://report.acorn.gov.au/

PS - you're only helping me

Thanks
RealityCheck
1 / 5 (4) Dec 02, 2018
@Forum.

Wow, folks. Can you believe it? This CS-malignancy is still at it; manufacturing delusional 'versions of reality' like a sausage machine! All this delusion being the result of his patented CS-"TL;DR Research Method" which he has BOASTED requires NOT READING before trolling and insulting from his self-imposed ignorance of what actually went down. Talk about malicious and vexatious nincompoops, this 'CS-brand' of malicious and vexatious nincompoop takes the cake. Sad.
Captain Stumpy
5 / 5 (3) Dec 02, 2018
@sam

appreciate you taking the time to dig your own hole

enjoy!

I'm taking off to let you post some more defamation

don't worry - I screen capped it all, archived the thread and I will make sure ACORN has all the requisite data

feel free to continue!

I have to run, though, so you'll be talking to yourself

but then again, you love having "the last word" - it's compulsory
you need it
it makes you feel like you "won"

LMFAO

RealityCheck
1 / 5 (4) Dec 02, 2018
@Forum.
@sam

appreciate you taking the time to dig your own hole

enjoy!

I'm taking off to let you post some more defamation

don't worry - I screen capped it all, archived the thread and I will make sure ACORN has all the requisite data

feel free to continue!

I have to run, though, so you'll be talking to yourself

but then again, you love having "the last word" - it's compulsory
you need it
it makes you feel like you "won"

LMFAO

And there it is again, folks; the CS-malignancy that has been libeling and trolling and BOASTED about STALKING people over the net! How this CS-gang-leading malicious and vexatious nincompoop ever got the idea that he is in any way objective or fair is a mystery to any observer au fait with this CS-malignancy's recorded history of libel, stalking and trolling posts which have cluttered up and derailed many an otherwise interesting and courteous discussion here and elsewhere on the forums. It's really sad.

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