European science bodies 'concerned' about Trump

February 16, 2017
The letters' authors cited Trump's threats to stop government scientists from talking to the press or publishing findings without permission

European science bodies on Thursday criticised Donald Trump's administration for what they said was a "policy reorientation" in favour of views "not based on facts and sound scientific processes and evidence."

A letter signed by 46 scientific organisations urged Europe's politicians to defend the principles and values that have traditionally underpinned scientific progress—including the open exchange of people and ideas.

Principles such as transparency, information-sharing and the physical mobility of scientists were vital to scientific development and the benefits they bring to societies and economies, the letter said.

The authors cited the new US president's attempts to ban travellers from seven Muslim-majority countries and threats to stop government scientists from talking to the press or publishing findings without permission.

They were particularly concerned, the group said, about "the unwarranted credibility to views not based on facts and sound scientific processes and evidence in areas such as or the safety of vaccines."

There was no place in for restrictions on research in "inconvenient areas", the letter said.

"Our colleagues working in the US will suffer, the United States and US citizens will pay a price, as will Europe and Europeans, and countries and people all across the globe."

Now more than ever the world needs solid and research to address "unprecedented challenges," the letter added.

Signatories included the British Royal Society, the science academies of Switzerland, Sweden, Denmark and the Netherlands, the European University Association and EuroScience, an association of researchers.

It was sent to the heads of the European Council and European Commission Donald Tusk and Jean-Claude Juncker, EU science commissioner Carlos Moedas, and the premiers and science ministers of all EU member states and of Norway, Switzerland, Iceland and Serbia.

The was dated to coincide with Thursday's opening the annual general meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science in Boston.

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FactsReallyMatter
1.4 / 5 (9) Feb 16, 2017
.... to ban travellers from seven Muslim-majority countries

Relevance here??? The list came from Obama. Obama, and every other president, has banned travel at some point from many countries.

threats to stop government scientists from talking to the press or publishing findings without permission.

Like every gov't employee in the world when they are acting on behalf of the gov't?

...... "the unwarranted credibility to views not based on facts .... such as climate science or the safety of vaccines."

Trump has made NO official statement on either.

There was no place in modern science for restrictions on research ...

What a crock, all of these 'scientists' have been involved in boards that decide funding. Is that not a restriction? Most scientists have been denied funding at least once in their career. Oh, the humanity!!

FactsReallyMatter
1.4 / 5 (9) Feb 16, 2017
Our colleagues working in the US will suffer, the United States and US citizens will pay a price, as will Europe and Europeans, and countries and people all across the globe.


Knock it off already, this is pure BS.

Physorg should be ashamed for including this theatrical horse#$@
rderkis
2.3 / 5 (3) Feb 16, 2017
Physorg should be ashamed for including this theatrical horse#$@


What are you talking about?
I thought the words "might, maybe, possibly, probably, concerned, unconcerned, worried etc." were all very scientific words.
RobertKarlStonjek
4.3 / 5 (6) Feb 16, 2017
The USA voted for this, they voted for post fact, they voted for scientific scepticism, they voted for a man who was making it up as he went along publicly for a year and so his current behaviour should not surprise anyone, this is what America voted for.

Remember when you were a kid and thought of all those one line answers to complex problems?...you thought you knew everything. Those who have kids will have seen them go through that stage...what if, in that naive stage, you allowed a child-like mind to run the country? Well, you did...
rderkis
Feb 17, 2017
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rderkis
2 / 5 (4) Feb 17, 2017
what if, in that naive stage, you allowed a child-like mind to run the country? Well, you did...


That child like mind has accomplished more in 70 years than you could in 10 lifetimes at your current rate.
Responsible for a book on best seller list.
Millionaire if not billionaire
Ownership or major interest in over 500 companies
President Of The United States/
barakn
3.4 / 5 (5) Feb 19, 2017
Donald Trump didn't write "The Art of The Deal," his "co-writer" Tony Schwartz wrote the whole thing. There's mounting evidence that Trump, while not illiterate, reads at about a 4th grade level, if that. https://www.youtu...9UsXSLWg

Trump's dad was a multi-millionaire who gave his son loans, gifts, business connections, a large inheritance, and illegally purchased $3.5 million in gaming chips from his son's casino without using them. We should all be so lucky.
rderkis
1.8 / 5 (5) Feb 19, 2017
Donald Trump didn't write "The Art of The Deal," his "co-writer" Tony Schwartz wrote the whole thing.


barakn, You and I are nothing compared to President Trump! No amount of jealousy or slander will change that.
Perhaps I am wrong please list YOUR verifiable accomplishments (Mr. Nobody).
He is on his way to being the greatest president we ever had! Chew on that. :-)
TheGhostofOtto1923
3 / 5 (4) Feb 19, 2017
Donald Trump didn't write "The Art of The Deal," his "co-writer" Tony Schwartz wrote the whole thing. There's mounting evidence that Trump, while not illiterate, reads at about a 4th grade level, if that
I didnt know illiterates could build vast empires and earn billions of dollars.

Mounting evidence suggests that some people will believe anything their tv sets tell them. Even when it tells them they are much smarter than they appear to be.

Scientists can be dunning-Krueger idiot savants you know. Some are even xians.
rderkis
3 / 5 (2) Feb 19, 2017
I really think you are all worried about the wrong thing.
President Trump is on the way to becoming the greatest President we ever had.
What worries me is getting him out of office after 4,8,12 years, once he makes America great again and you all idolize him.

I don't want a dictator, king, President for life no matter how good he is!

antialias_physorg
3.7 / 5 (3) Feb 19, 2017
President Trump is on the way to becoming the greatest President we ever had.

Well...let's see him actually do something first. As of now he hasn't actually done anything (except roll back stuff that others have done). After he's actually done something of his own then we may see if that something is actually good. Then after he's done a lot of things which are good only THEN he may be in line for 'the greatest president'.

But somehow I don't find that likely. The guy is just full of hot air and lies (last night's speech anyone? Terror attack in sweden? What terror attack in Sweden? How can he make this shit up and get away with it?)
Benni
3 / 5 (2) Feb 19, 2017
They were particularly concerned, the group said, about "the unwarranted credibility to views not based on facts and sound scientific processes and evidence in areas such as climate science or the safety of vaccines."


.....in other words these signatories are concerned about funding cuts in the US that would trickle down the pipeline & eventually end up cutting handouts into European coffers.
rderkis
3 / 5 (2) Feb 19, 2017
Well...let's see him actually do something first. As of now he hasn't actually done anything (except roll back stuff that others have done). )


I am sure you weren't sleeping during the debates so you know rolling back STUFF:-) others have done was top on his campaign promises list. And it's nice to see you giving President Trump credit for fulfilling his campaign promises.
But you are either blind to that or your just not being objective.
TheGhostofOtto1923
1 / 5 (1) Feb 19, 2017
Well...let's see him actually do something first. As of now he hasn't actually done anything (except roll back stuff that others have done). After he's actually done something of his own then we may see if that something is actually good. Then after he's done a lot of things which are good only THEN he may be in line for 'the greatest president'
How can you debate with people who so obviously have no idea whats going on?

You can pat them on the head, say 'there there now dont fret', and gently remind them that, since americans dont give a shit what Auslanders think, their opinions are irrelevant.

Take heart little aa - the magic kingdom opens again in a few hours.
rderkis
not rated yet Feb 19, 2017
TheGhostofOtto1923 is not an American, just disregard what the leach that lives under our protection has to say.
TheGhostofOtto1923
not rated yet Feb 20, 2017
TheGhostofOtto1923 is not an American, just disregard what the leach that lives under our protection has to say


Jah ich bin ein Berliner. Thanx for your military bases. And dresden and hamburg. Will you thank us for saving europe (and your ass) from communism?

I didnt think so.
barakn
not rated yet Feb 21, 2017
He is on his way to being the greatest president we ever had! Chew on that. :-)
I don't chew on dogshit.
barakn
not rated yet Feb 21, 2017
Donald Trump didn't write "The Art of The Deal," his "co-writer" Tony Schwartz wrote the whole thing. There's mounting evidence that Trump, while not illiterate, reads at about a 4th grade level, if that
I didnt know illiterates could build vast empires and earn billions of dollars.
-TGoO1923

There's a lot of things you don't know. I'll give you a hint - you use your wealth, or the promise of it, to hire people that are vastly smarter and more competent than you are to get the job done. And then, if you think you won't need their services again, you screw them over by refusing to pay them. Usually they can't afford to sue, but if they do, use your army of lawyers to tie them up in court for years until they give up. Use and Discard, the Trump Method.

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