Poll: Americans don't trust one another

Dec 01, 2013 by Connie Cass
Shown is the cash box at Dennis and Darlene Hess's farm stand Monday, Nov. 4, 2013, in Litiz, Pa. You can take our word for it: Americans don't trust each other anymore. An AP-GfK poll conducted last month found that Americans are suspicious of each other in everyday encounters. Less than a third expressed a lot of trust in clerks who swipe their credit cards, drivers on the road, or people they meet when traveling. However, there are still trusters around to set an example like Dennis Hess who runs an unattended farm stand on the honor system. Customers pick out their produce, tally their bills and drop the money into a slot, making change from an unlocked cashbox. "When people from New York or New Jersey come up," said Hess, "they are amazed that this kind of thing is done anymore." (AP Photo/Matt Rourke)

Americans don't trust each other anymore. We're not talking about the loss of faith in big institutions such as the government, the church or Wall Street, which fluctuates with events. For four decades, a gut-level ingredient of democracy—trust in the other fellow—has been quietly draining away.

These days, only one-third of Americans say most people can be trusted. Half felt that way in 1972, when the General Social Survey first asked the question.

Forty years later, a record high of nearly two-thirds say "you can't be too careful" in dealing with people.

An AP-GfK poll conducted last month found that Americans are suspicious of each other in everyday encounters. Less than one-third expressed a lot of trust in clerks who swipe their credit cards, drivers on the road, or people they meet when traveling.

"I'm leery of everybody," said Bart Murawski, 27, of Albany, New York. "Caution is always a factor."

Does it matter that Americans are suspicious of one another? Yes, say worried political and social scientists.

What's known as "social trust" brings good things.

A society where it's easier to compromise or make a deal. Where people are willing to work with those who are different from them for the common good. Where trust appears to promote economic growth.

Distrust, on the other hand, seems to encourage corruption. At the least, it diverts energy to counting change, drawing up 100-page legal contracts and building gated communities.

Even the rancor and gridlock in politics might stem from the effects of an increasingly distrustful citizenry, said April K. Clark, a Purdue University political scientist and public opinion researcher.

"It's like the rules of the game," Clark said. "When trust is low, the way we react and behave with each other becomes less civil."

There's no easy fix.

In fact, some studies suggest it's too late for most Americans alive today to become more trusting. That research says the basis for a person's lifetime trust levels is set by his or her mid-twenties and unlikely to change, other than in some unifying crucible such as a world war.

People do get a little more trusting as they age. But beginning with the baby boomers, each generation has started off adulthood less trusting than those who came before them.

The best hope for creating a more trusting nation may be figuring out how to inspire today's youth, perhaps united by their high-tech gadgets, to trust the way previous generations did in simpler times.

Bart Murawski, 27 poses at a coffee shop Tuesday, Nov. 26, 2013, in Troy, N.Y. You can take our word for it: Americans don't trust each other anymore. An AP-GfK poll conducted last month found that Americans are suspicious of each other in everyday encounters. Less than a third expressed a lot of trust in clerks who swipe their credit cards, drivers on the road, or people they meet when traveling. "I'm leery of everybody," said Murawski. "Caution is always a factor." (AP Photo/Shannon DeCelle)

There are still trusters around to set an example.

Pennsylvania farmer Dennis Hess is one. He runs an unattended farm stand on the honor system.

Customers select their produce, tally their bills and drop the money into a slot, making change from an unlocked cashbox. Both regulars and tourists en route to nearby Lititz, Pennsylvania, stop for asparagus in the spring, corn in the summer and, as the weather turns cold, long-neck pumpkins for holiday pies.

"When people from New York or New Jersey come up," said Hess, 60, "they are amazed that this kind of thing is done anymore."

Hess has updated the old ways with technology. He added a video camera a few years back, to help catch people who drive off without paying or raid the cashbox. But he says there isn't enough theft to undermine his trust in human nature.

"I'll say 99 and a half percent of the people are honest," said Hess, who's operated the produce stand for two decades.

There's no single explanation for Americans' loss of trust.

The best-known analysis comes from "Bowling Alone" author Robert Putnam's nearly two decades of studying the United States' declining "social capital," including trust.

Putnam says Americans have abandoned their bowling leagues and Elks lodges to stay home and watch TV. Less socializing and fewer community meetings make people less trustful than the "long civic generation" that came of age during the Great Depression and World War II.

University of Maryland Professor Eric Uslaner, who studies politics and trust, puts the blame elsewhere: economic inequality.

Trust has declined as the gap between the nation's rich and poor grows ever wider, Uslaner says, and more and more Americans feel shut out. They've lost their sense of a shared fate. Tellingly, trust rises with wealth.

"People who believe the world is a good place and it's going to get better and you can help make it better, they will be trusting," Uslaner said. "If you believe it's dark and driven by outside forces you can't control, you will be a mistruster."

African-Americans consistently have expressed far less faith in "most people" than the white majority does. Racism, discrimination and a high rate of poverty destroy trust.

Nearly 8 in 10 African-Americans, in the 2012 survey conducted by NORC at the University of Chicago with principal funding from the National Science Foundation, felt that "you can't be too careful." That figure has held remarkably steady across the 25 GSS surveys since 1972.

Dennis Hess poses for a photograph at his farm Monday, Nov. 4, 2013, in Litiz, Pa. You can take our word for it: Americans don't trust each other anymore. An AP-GfK poll conducted last month found that Americans are suspicious of each other in everyday encounters. Less than a third expressed a lot of trust in clerks who swipe their credit cards, drivers on the road, or people they meet when traveling. However, there are still trusters around to set an example like Dennis Hess who runs an unattended farm stand on the honor system. Customers pick out their produce, tally their bills and drop the money into a slot, making change from an unlocked cashbox. "When people from New York or New Jersey come up," said Hess, "they are amazed that this kind of thing is done anymore." (AP Photo/Matt Rourke)

The decline in the nation's overall trust quotient was driven by changing attitudes among whites.

It's possible that people today are indeed less deserving of trust than Americans in the past, perhaps because of a decline in moral values.

"I think people are acting more on their greed," said Murawski, a computer specialist who says he has witnessed scams and rip-offs. "Everybody wants a comfortable lifestyle, but what are you going to do for it? Where do you draw the line?"

Ethical behavior such as lying and cheating are difficult to document over the decades. It's worth noting that the early, most trusting years of the GSS poll coincided with the Watergate scandal and the Vietnam War. Trust dropped off in the more stable 1980s.

Crime rates fell in the 1990s and 2000s, and still Americans grew less trusting. Many social scientists blame 24-hour news coverage of distant violence for skewing people's perceptions of crime.

Can anything bring trust back?

Uslaner and Clark don't see much hope anytime soon.

Thomas Sander, executive director of the Saguaro Seminar launched by Putnam, believes the trust deficit is "eminently fixable" if Americans strive to rebuild community and civic life, perhaps by harnessing technology.

After all, the Internet can widen the circle of acquaintances who might help you find a job. Email makes it easier for clubs to plan face-to-face meetings. Googling someone turns up information that used to come via the community grapevine.

But hackers and viruses and hateful posts eat away at trust. And sitting home watching YouTube means less time out meeting others.

"A lot of it depends on whether we can find ways to get people using technology to connect and be more civically involved," Sander said.

"The fate of Americans' ," he said, "is in our own hands."

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EarthlingX
4.5 / 5 (8) Dec 01, 2013
It seems greed has become a virtue, that may have something to do with it.
ryggesogn2
1.2 / 5 (17) Dec 01, 2013
"There's no easy fix."
No easy fix if the 'liberals' are in charge.
But if the k-12 schools return to teaching Western Civilization and why the USA was unique in the world, maybe the process can be reversed.
And, the govt needs to end tracking of its citizens by race or ethnicity.
A nation is borders, language and culture.
The 'liberal' socialists divide and conquer policies have achieved their objective.
Doug_Huffman
1.5 / 5 (13) Dec 01, 2013
I trust my neighbors enough that my house is unlocked and I wear a gun. I trust others enough that I have ridden my 'bicycle' waay over 50K miles while wearing a mirror. I trust others enough that will not visit a city, the nearest town of 100K is disgusting, filthy, and garish.
ryggesogn2
1.3 / 5 (15) Dec 01, 2013
"A 76-year-old Brooklyn woman was punched in the back of the head by a stranger in what residents fear could be the city's tenth "knockout game" attack."

Read more: http://www.nydail...mE36IWFd

Many media claim this 'game' is a myth.

"It only took five years for the American media to get tired of President Obama's spoon-fed propaganda -- well, at least one aspect of it. Earlier this month, 38 news organizations, including the Associated Press, ABC News, The Washington Post, and Reuters demanded more photojournalist access to the president. The White House responded with what one reporter described as a middle finger. "
http://www.breitb...e-photos
ryggesogn2
1.3 / 5 (13) Dec 01, 2013
"A secretive Seattle arm of the powerful Service Employees International Union paid protesters to picket fast-food restaurants for higher pay."

Read more: http://dailycalle...mE5phJx0
" while leftist news outlets like the Nation try to discredit claims that protesters are professional activists instead of normal people, or Walmart employees, there's nothing like a video of a Union member actually admitting to it to settle the debate."
http://www.ijrevi...n-video/
yoatmon
3 / 5 (3) Dec 01, 2013
The first step to improve the overall situation would be for political leaders to prove that the trust they desire from the general public is indeed justified.
antialias_physorg
3.7 / 5 (6) Dec 01, 2013
It seems greed has become a virtue, that may have something to do with it.

Agreed. Plus: If anyone you meet can carry a concealed weapon...yeah...I wouldn't trust anyone either in those circumstances.
ryggesogn2
1.3 / 5 (13) Dec 01, 2013
It seems greed has become a virtue, that may have something to do with it.

Agreed. Plus: If anyone you meet can carry a concealed weapon...yeah...I wouldn't trust anyone either in those circumstances.

Especially German police officer who is a cannibal
http://abcnews.go...21058055

But then those attacking people in the street trust they are NOT carrying a concealed weapon.

"Elderly woman could be city's 10th 'knockout game' victim "

Read more: http://www.nydail...mFSzvlWj
ryggesogn2
1.3 / 5 (14) Dec 01, 2013
It seems greed has become a virtue, that may have something to do with it.

Agreed. Plus: If anyone you meet can carry a concealed weapon...yeah...I wouldn't trust anyone either in those circumstances.


"Over the weekend, a brutal beating in the city center resulted in the death of a 20-year-old and dominated headlines. Police in the German capital are still searching for seven suspects who allegedly attacked the young man without provocation in the city's central Alexanderplatz square early on Sunday morning. "
"Just a few days before, not far from where the Alexanderplatz beating took place, unknown perpetrators shot a 23-year-old, who is recovering after emergency surgery, according to police. The same weekend another man in the city's Schöneberg district was injured by gunfire. "
http://www.spiege...782.html
antialias_physorg
3.3 / 5 (6) Dec 01, 2013
Especially German police officer who is a cannibal

Police officers over here don't carry concealed weapons. (Not even in the US do they do that, I believe)

But then those attacking people in the street

Well, there's your problem right there. If you have a society where "attacking people in the street" is so common that you actually even think about it (let alone have it change the way you behave yourself) ...
Notice that this case really dominated the headlines...which means its pretty rare.

No society is perfect, and there will never be one where you won't have the occasional bizarre incident. But if those are few and far between then society as a whole can still keep its trust in one another. If they don't then society will fall apart.

kochevnik
1.4 / 5 (10) Dec 01, 2013
In the darknet, trust can be built by peers and the model has worked well for people who know nothing at all about each-other. It might be useful to build a social network based upon trust and issue-resolution. Something hard enough for a celebrity to advocate. Imagine Brad Pitt advocating someone in a personal testimonial. If the system is rigorous enough, a chain of trust can be built to ensure Mr. Pitt does not regret his actions. This is related to the phenomenon that people trust brands more than strangers

People with low trust ratings can put up bonds to entice strangers they are serious and genuine

The US police state has reduced trust so as the encourage reliance upon the government. In California the situation is so grim one cannot wear armor to protect himself. It is a crime to protect oneself!
Sigh
4.5 / 5 (8) Dec 01, 2013
No easy fix if the 'liberals' are in charge.
...
The 'liberal' socialists divide and conquer policies have achieved their objective.

Has it ever occurred to you that your own hostility erodes trust?
kochevnik
1.4 / 5 (11) Dec 01, 2013
No easy fix if the 'liberals' are in charge.
...
The 'liberal' socialists divide and conquer policies have achieved their objective.

Has it ever occurred to you that your own hostility erodes trust?
The Asperger syndrome won't allow any trust functions, which require higher-level brain activity. So he's stuck on paranoia, materialism and conservaturdism
kochevnik
1 / 5 (10) Dec 01, 2013
US has no regard for life when important medical experiments must be performed on live subjects. Former nazis imported through the Vatican ratline in operation Paperclip and their prodigies now find careers in the US government.

Pictured: The shocking decline of 15-year-old girl 'kidnapped' by doctors nine months ago who her parents claim are using her as a 'guinea pig for medical experiments': http://www.dailym...pig.html
TheGhostofOtto1923
1 / 5 (6) Dec 01, 2013
"These days, only one-third of Americans say most people can be trusted. Half felt that way in 1972, when the General Social Survey first asked the question.
Forty years later, a record high of nearly two-thirds say "you can't be too careful" in dealing with people"

-This is only because americans are getting smarter and more informed.

Correct me if Im wrong but I didnt see anything about why this study was restricted to americans or how people in other countries feel about their fellow citizens/subjects/comrades? You must admit that to americaphobes and other such dullards it may give the impression that we are any more or less trustworthy than say the typical ex-commie mafioso or one of the few surviving and thus most timid of german nationals?
Police officers over here don't carry concealed weapons. (Not even in the US do they do that, I believe)
Most cops carry concealed backup weapons. Undercover cops and feds and 007 always carry concealed weapons and drive unmarked cars.
TheGhostofOtto1923
1 / 5 (4) Dec 01, 2013
Well, there's your problem right there. If you have a society where "attacking people in the street" is so common that you actually even think about it (let alone have it change the way you behave yourself)
-You mean like britain, the violent crime capital of europe?
If anyone you meet can carry a concealed weapon...yeah...I wouldn't trust anyone either in those circumstances
Well you know that criminals always tend to conceal the weapons they carry. And you really cant tell a criminal from a law-abiding citizen just by looking at them. So AA how can you trust anybody anywhere without being a little schizophrenic or at least a little addle-brained?
ryggesogn2
1 / 5 (14) Dec 01, 2013
No easy fix if the 'liberals' are in charge.
...
The 'liberal' socialists divide and conquer policies have achieved their objective.

Has it ever occurred to you that your own hostility erodes trust?

My hostility?
I guess I can trust that socialists openly want to plunder my wealth and control my life and why shouldn't anyone be hostile to those who want to violate their property rights?
dav_daddy
1.6 / 5 (13) Dec 01, 2013
It seems greed has become a virtue, that may have something to do with it.

Agreed. Plus: If anyone you meet can carry a concealed weapon...yeah...I wouldn't trust anyone either in those circumstances.


Oh yeah, I feel much safer knowing the only people who carry concealed weapons are those who have no problem breaking the law.
ryggesogn2
1 / 5 (11) Dec 01, 2013
But if those are few and far between then society as a whole can still keep its trust in one another. If they don't then society will fall apart.


Isn't that what happened throughout Europe? Distrust of Jews for centuries lead to bad situations as does distrust of/by Muslims now.
Muslim crimes in Sweden and many other countries is causing much distrust.
As the priest on Fox said this morning, people used to know their neighbors, used to have similar cultural and family histories. Now, especially motivated by mulch-cultural policies, societies are no longer homogenous and the state discourages homogeneity.
The Soviets understood this breaking up homogenous communities forcing Asians into Europe and forcing Europeans to resettle in their Asian states. This breaks up societies leaving the state to become the 'society'.
antialias_physorg
4 / 5 (4) Dec 01, 2013
Isn't that what happened throughout Europe? Distrust of Jews for centuries lead to bad situations as does distrust of/by Muslims now.

Sure. that's why we must work against this distrust by trying to create an open and integrated spociety. It may not be working perfectly, but it certainyl is better than trying to shun everything that is different or getting to be paranoid.
Society is a work in progress. Always.
You get some extremists and conservatives going and pretty soon you have repression and distrust and society falls apart as a result. There's people who benefit from strife and people who get duped because they think they have nothing to lose.

Force doesn't help in these cases. It only creates apparent calm while creating internal pressure that eventually leads to revolution (that is why Lenin/Marx proposed a 'continual revolution' BTW - to prevent that) . China is finding that out right now. Russia found it out before Putin (and looks like they'll find out again)
TheGhostofOtto1923
1 / 5 (4) Dec 01, 2013
Sure. that's why we must work against this distrust by trying to create an open and integrated spociety. It may not be working perfectly, but it certainyl is better than trying to shun everything that is different or getting to be paranoid.
Society is a work in progress. Always.

Force doesn't help in these cases. It only creates apparent calm while creating internal pressure that eventually leads to revolution (that is why Lenin/Marx proposed a 'continual revolution' BTW - to prevent that) . China is finding that out right now. Russia found it out before Putin (and looks like they'll find out again)
What tripe. Bad guys exist. They dont go away if you ignore them. How did you ever fail to learn this lesson?
ryggesogn2
1 / 5 (11) Dec 01, 2013
Force doesn't help in these cases.

It does if the force, the law, is applied regardless of ethnicity.
When one minority is allowed to commit crime or gain special favors out of fear or guilt, society is not served.
In Sweden, police are afraid to arrest Muslims for rape. In many other countries, the state contemplates allowing Muslims to implement Sharia for themselves.
In the US, blacks are not prosecuted for crimes against whites today and illegal aliens are not prosecuted out of political fear.
The modis operendi of socialism is to divide societies against each other to benefit the state and their leaders and that is precisely what BHO and his minions are doing.
But it is those who are opposed to such tactics, conservatives, tea party members, who are vilified by the socialists here and in the media.
What made the culture of the USA great is anyone could immigrate and become an American regardless of their birth nationality and enjoy the liberty the US culture.
ryggesogn2
1 / 5 (12) Dec 01, 2013
(cont)
BHO and his 'progressive' socialists want to, and are destroying the liberty and opportunity that defined the culture of the US.
If the US is no longer a beacon of liberty in the world, who will take its place?
ryggesogn2
1 / 5 (12) Dec 01, 2013
"
Mr Obama's aides routinely block independent photographers from capturing him at work, before distributing flattering pictures shot by Pete Souza, his official photographer.

During a tense meeting at the White House, the practice was described by Doug Mills, a veteran photographer for The New York Times, as "just like TASS," the Soviet Union state news agency.

More than 30 major US media organisations and the leading US press photographers' union have protested against being barred from covering Mr Obama in an open letter to his press secretary. "
http://www.telegr...icy.html

BTW, those Euros who uncritically treated BHO as a Messiah and the Nobel's who gave him a prize for no accomplishment deserve blame as well.
orti
1 / 5 (11) Dec 01, 2013
I think ryggesogn2 has hit the nail on the head. We've had 50 yrs of unbridled dominance of media, culture, education, and academia by the left. Distrust is an intended consequence of its divide-and-conquer, politics-is-everything, use-courts-to-bypass-democracy, conservatives-are-evil approach.
zaxxon451
5 / 5 (2) Dec 01, 2013
"Just as the commandment 'Thou shalt not kill' sets a clear limit in order to safeguard the value of human life, today we also have to say 'thou shalt not' to an economy of exclusion and inequality. Such an economy kills," - Pope Francis
ryggesogn2
1 / 5 (11) Dec 01, 2013
Another factor creating mistrust are speech codes in schools, universities and in the work place.
Sexual harassment lawsuits chilled work place speech.
I don't like Alec Baldwin but if he was fired for his speech outside his home and not the ratings, that is wrong. A MSNBC colleague and producers can state, on air, that someone should defecate in Sarah Palin's mouth and he is not fired.
Paula Dean is fired for something she said decades ago.
People have been fired or reprimanded for using the word 'niggardly'.
The 'free' press in the US must tip toe around the 'dear leader' unless they lose their job or access.
No one can trust the state or media. Is it any wonder society doesn't trust either?
ryggesogn2
1 / 5 (11) Dec 01, 2013
"Just as the commandment 'Thou shalt not kill' sets a clear limit in order to safeguard the value of human life, today we also have to say 'thou shalt not' to an economy of exclusion and inequality. Such an economy kills," - Pope Francis

"And the greed and consumerism Pope Francis rightly criticizes is a weakness of human nature, not of freedom. As libertarian economist Milton Friedman challenged decades ago, "Is there some society you know that doesn't run on greed? You think Russia doesn't run on greed? You think China doesn't run on greed? … And what does reward virtue? You think the Communist commissar rewards virtue? … Just tell me where in the world you find these angels who are going to organize society for us."

Read more: http://dailycalle...mH7CPqtp
ryggesogn2
1 / 5 (13) Dec 01, 2013
"while libertarians must stress the moral, human story of economic freedom, we must also guard against progressives' claim to the moral high ground. Despite what some vacuous pundits might draw from Pope Francis' words, the path to salvation is not through Obamacare. Christ was clear in his instructions to his followers: "Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's" — meaning, in part, the taxes we pay to government are paid to the government, and won't help us out with St. Peter."
" while we conservatives and libertarians may disagree with the pope on the details, his message is dead on. And despite their victory lap, the other side doesn't get it: Man is not a material creature nurtured by minimum wage laws, moved by Dodd-Frank; he is a spiritual creature, nurtured by freedom, moved by caring."

Read more: http://dailycalle...mH7smHTe

ryggesogn2
1 / 5 (12) Dec 01, 2013
"Just as the commandment 'Thou shalt not kill' sets a clear limit in order to safeguard the value of human life, today we also have to say 'thou shalt not' to an economy of exclusion and inequality. Such an economy kills," - Pope Francis

Yes, that is exactly what corporatism does. It uses state power to exclude competitors and limit equal opportunity in an economy.
The 'progressive' era in the US began with the creation of the FDA to limit the competition for the top five meat packers. The Taft-Hartly act is used to protect inefficient companies by attacking those that succeed in the marketplace without govt 'help'. Standard Oil and Microsoft are among their victims.
kochevnik
2.1 / 5 (10) Dec 01, 2013
@ryggie You think Russia doesn't run on greed? You think China doesn't run on greed?
Russians have a dual treatment of people, so it was possible to survive on the basis of cooperation and common good rather than cold blood competition and greed. Other societies seem to only have the latter social strata
Sinister1811
5 / 5 (2) Dec 01, 2013
This doesn't only apply to Americans. It's hard to trust people in a world where most people are after money. There are so many scammers around, criminals, violence. Besides, most people just care about themselves these days. There are some people who go out into the city late at night and get bashed for no reason at all.
zaxxon451
5 / 5 (2) Dec 01, 2013
"How can it be that it is not a news item when an elderly homeless person dies of exposure but it is news when the stock market loses two points?" -- Pope Francis
Crucialitis
2.3 / 5 (6) Dec 02, 2013
This whole country is on the take, it's not hard to see where bonds go in that environment.
kochevnik
2.7 / 5 (11) Dec 02, 2013
"How can it be that it is not a news item when an elderly homeless person dies of exposure but it is news when the stock market loses two points?" -- Pope Francis
Well explain how an elderly homeless person dying of exposure will move the market? And in what direction? In contrast the fake FED quantitative tapering of October 16 moved the market a thousand points. Bullshite is the lifeblood of the US economy

Now US government has absconded it's duty toward the common good, and has instead partnered with corporations to spy on Americans and foment subterfuge and hit lists and is reclassifying activists as terrorists: http://www.thegua...activism
Sinister1811
5 / 5 (3) Dec 02, 2013
"How can it be that it is not a news item when an elderly homeless person dies of exposure but it is news when the stock market loses two points?" -- Pope Francis


The same thing happened with Paul Walker and his driver. A million tributes to Paul Walker (and they're still going), but everyone forgets about the other guy because he's an "average joe".
Sinister1811
5 / 5 (2) Dec 02, 2013
By the way, I'm so sick of hearing about it for three days.
antialias_physorg
5 / 5 (4) Dec 02, 2013
How can it be that it is not a news item when an elderly homeless person dies of exposure but it is news when the stock market loses two points?

As harsh as it may sound: The stock market movement affects everyone a little, while that homeless person affects no one at all (least of all that person him/herself, because by that time he/she is dead).

News aren't supposed to be 'feel good' (or 'feel bad') items - as much as news networks seem to forget that (I'm looking at you: FOX). News are supposed to deliver information that is useful to the people taking them in.

Now if we're talking about reporting on the state of homeless people in general and their growing numbers: THAT is news, because we, as a society, need to be aware of the problem so we can move to fix it.
VendicarE
3.8 / 5 (4) Dec 02, 2013
"I guess I can trust that socialists openly want to plunder my wealth and control my life" - RyggTard

Fuck off and die, you low life, moron.

Republican's have proven themselves to be congenital liars, and you have been caught lying time and time and time again.

You are therefore untrustworthy.

The Republican has never existed who can be trusted.

Liars, cheats and thieves.. All of them...
VendicarE
2.8 / 5 (4) Dec 02, 2013
"Bullshite is the lifeblood of the US economy" - Kochevnik

Correct. America is a nation of bullshit and the toilet is being flushed.

Keep flushing until the bowl is clear of America I say. Plunge if you must.

"Now US government has absconded it's duty toward the common good, and has instead partnered with corporations..." - Kochevnik

It is called Fascism.
VendicarE
4.3 / 5 (6) Dec 02, 2013
"How can it be that it is not a news item when an elderly homeless person dies of exposure but it is news when the stock market loses two points?" - Pope Francis

I like this Pope.

Greed and immorality are king and queen in America. Capitalism and Capitalist filth rules the nation.

Capitalism is the art of cheating your neighbor.

When Capitalism is practiced by all, there can be no trust between any.
VendicarE
3.8 / 5 (4) Dec 02, 2013
"while libertarians must stress the moral, human story of economic freedom" - RyggTard

To a Libertarian it is moral to starve your fellow man if they can't afford to purchase food.

To a Libertarian it is moral to deny their fellow man health care if they can not afford it.

To a Libertarian it is moral to deny their country-man shelter as long as it lowers their taxes.

Libertarians are the most corrupt, immoral, ideologues in the history of mankind.

RyggTard is a fine example of their lying, deceitful, creed of greed.
VendicarE
3.8 / 5 (4) Dec 02, 2013
"The 'progressive' era in the US began with the creation of the FDA to limit the competition for the top five meat packers" - RyggTard

Conservative lies like this are why Conservatives like RyggTard can not be trusted.

His goal is to increase the amount of bacterial contamination on American meet products in order to reduce the cost of production and increase corporate profits.

Libertarain/Randites like RyggTard are congenital liars working to increase the corporate takeover of America through the destruction of the government oversight and regulation of corporate greed.

TardieBoy has proven to be a congenital liar, and a traitor to his nation, and can not be trusted.
VendicarE
3.7 / 5 (3) Dec 02, 2013
"And the greed and consumerism Pope Francis rightly criticizes is a weakness of human nature, not of freedom." - RyggTard

Note how the Libertarian/Randite vermin replaces "Capitalism" with "Freedom", as if the two were identical.

Lying Scumbag.

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Francis attacked unfettered capitalism as "a new tyranny" and beseeched global leaders to fight poverty and growing inequality, in a document on Tuesday setting out a platform for his papacy and calling for a renewal of the Catholic Church.

Francis went further than previous comments criticizing the global economic system, attacking the "idolatry of money", and urged politicians to "attack the structural causes of inequality" and strive to provide work, healthcare and education to all citizens.
VendicarE
4 / 5 (4) Dec 02, 2013
In it, economic inequality features as one of the issues Francis is most concerned about, and the 76-year-old pontiff calls for an overhaul of the financial system and warns that unequal distribution of wealth inevitably leads to violence.

"I beg the Lord to grant us more politicians who are genuinely disturbed by the state of society, the people, the lives of the poor."

"The message on poverty sets Pope Francis on a collision course with neo-liberal Catholic thought, promoted by economists Friedrich Hayek and Milton Friedman, especially in the United States,"
ryggesogn2
1 / 5 (8) Dec 02, 2013
Now if we're talking about reporting on the state of homeless people in general and their growing numbers:


If you went by media reports, one must conclude that the only time homelessness was a problem is when Reagan was president.
Ever since 'liberals' have been in office, the media would have you believe there is no homelessness.
It's hard to trust people in a world where most people are after money.

Why? You know what they are after. The honest criminal is much easier to trust than a dishonest one, aka socialists.
survive on the basis of cooperation and common good

That's how concentration camp prisoners survived. Koch advocates totalitarian oppression to so people will cooperate?
TheGhostofOtto1923
1 / 5 (5) Dec 02, 2013
Force doesn't help in these cases. It only creates apparent calm while creating internal pressure that eventually leads to revolution (that is why Lenin/Marx proposed a 'continual revolution' BTW - to prevent that) . China is finding that out right now. Russia found it out before Putin (and looks like they'll find out again)
What tripe. Bad guys exist. They dont go away if you ignore them. How did you ever fail to learn this lesson?
Well AA was on the other side when the allies learned the hard way that appeasement failed miserably to stop the third reich. Didn't it?

Only force or implied force can stop the criminal, the despot, or the madman. History has taught (some of) us this.
Sinister1811
1 / 5 (1) Dec 02, 2013
Why? You know what they are after. The honest criminal is much easier to trust than a dishonest one, aka socialists.


That's actually a decent point (except for the socialism part).
Firefly Mal
1.4 / 5 (10) Dec 02, 2013
Libertarain/Randites … only one completely ignorant on the subject would make up such an epitaph.

Rand denounced the libertarians as … "advocates of anarchism – the most irrational, anti-intellectual notion ever spun by the concrete-bound, context-dropping, whim-worshiping fringe of the collectivist movement."

Thus VendicarE reveals that he knows nothing of either Objectivism or libertarianism.

In regards to his attempt to equate Ayn Rand's philosophy of Objectivism to the Right, VendicarE is even more in error, as the words of Harry Binswanger illustrate: "In the philosophical battle for a free society, the one crucial connection to be upheld is that between capitalism and reason. The religious conservatives are seeking to tie capitalism to mysticism; the "libertarians" are tying capitalism to the whim-worshipping subjectivism and chaos of anarchy. To cooperate with either group is to betray capitalism, reason, and one's own future."

References:

http://aynrandlex...ans.html

http://www.aynran...anism_qa

An anti-intellectual knuckle-dragging brute (who's every other phrase is some form of ad hominem) such as VendicareE is certainly not to be taken seriously, however I'm fine with highlighting his error in this regard, hopefully to illuminate how mistaken he likely is in regards to the rest of his (often) convoluted diatribe(s).
ryggesogn2
1.4 / 5 (10) Dec 02, 2013
Why? You know what they are after. The honest criminal is much easier to trust than a dishonest one, aka socialists.


That's actually a decent point (except for the socialism part).

Socialists are dishonest criminals. They plunder your wealth claiming it is for YOUR good.
goracle
1.7 / 5 (6) Dec 02, 2013

Especially German police officer who is a cannibal
http://abcnews.go...21058055

It isn't a huge number, but there does seem to be a bit of a concentration of cannibal kooks in Deutschland. Perhaps it is a matter of media attention on a small number of instances with references to the older case.

You'd think there is something peculiar about Austria and holding girls as slaves too, if that was all you had heard and the recent rescue in Cleveland wasn't mentioned.
Crucialitis
1.8 / 5 (9) Dec 02, 2013
"Socialists are dishonest criminals. They plunder your wealth claiming it is for YOUR good."

What's so honest about claiming the plunder is the company's profit?
ryggesogn2
1 / 5 (9) Dec 02, 2013
"Socialists are dishonest criminals. They plunder your wealth claiming it is for YOUR good."

What's so honest about claiming the plunder is the company's profit?


How does a company plunder? It can't use force to take anything from anyone. Only the state can do that.
ryggesogn2
1 / 5 (9) Dec 02, 2013
" 5.5 million. That is how many people the administration needs to sign up in just 23 days because Obamacare drove them out of their health-care plans. That's some 240,000 sign-ups every single day, just to break even. "
" 50 million. That is how many Americans will be surprised to find their employer-based health plans dropped or substantially changed next year because of Obamacare. "
" 53. That is the percentage of Americans who now say that President Obama is not "honest or trustworthy." Americans are not just questioning Obama's competence, they also are questioning his integrity."
" 12. That is the number of Senate Democrats up for reelection in 2014 who are complicit in Obama's lie. "
"They are angry about being lied to. "
http://www.washin...ory.html
antialias_physorg
4 / 5 (5) Dec 02, 2013
The honest criminal is much easier to trust than a dishonest one

A...honest...criminal?
Do you even read what you type?
TheGhostofOtto1923
1 / 5 (5) Dec 02, 2013
The honest criminal is much easier to trust than a dishonest one

A...honest...criminal?
Do you even read what you type?
Honest criminals are tribalists who prey on outsiders. The tribal dynamic does not recognize this as criminal activity.

It is honorable to victimize outsiders in support of your tribe. It is expected. It is biological. We have been selected for it. And like so many of our biological urges it takes much training to break. Domestication is very hard work, taking years of sermonizing, schooling, will-breaking, tv-watching, and finger-wagging.

Tribalists include the mafia, juggalos, MS13, fundys, british soccer fans... and nazis.
ryggesogn2
1 / 5 (6) Dec 02, 2013
The honest criminal is much easier to trust than a dishonest one

A...honest...criminal?
Do you even read what you type?

Yes.
"it is also true that a man may live and satisfy his wants by seizing and consuming the products of the labor of others. This process is the origin of plunder. "
"men will resort to plunder whenever plunder is easier than work. History shows this quite clearly. And under these conditions, neither religion nor morality can stop it. "
"the proper purpose of law is to use the power of its collective force to stop this fatal tendency to plunder instead of to work"
"when plunder is organized by law for the profit of those who make the law, all the plundered classes try somehow to enter ... into the making of laws."
"Socialists desire to practice legal plunder, not illegal plunder. "
http://bastiat.or...ION_G006
One trusts a criminal to violate the law.
The socialist perverts law to make plunder legal.
ryggesogn2
1 / 5 (7) Dec 02, 2013
""As a black person, it bothers me that the America I know and love I feel like is being destroyed by a black man. I don't understand why," she said, discussing her serious concerns about President Obama's legacy in an interview with The Daily Caller.

"It bothers me that so many black people have been deceived into supporting programs and policies that are killing them," she continued.

She worries most about Obama's governance and how it erodes constitutional freedoms."
"
Swain puts her faith in ordinary Americans: "I don't think we should put our confidence in our political leaders of either political party. It's up to us; it's gonna be we the people that transform this country."

Read more: http://dailycalle...mN8z2w3A
kochevnik
1.8 / 5 (5) Dec 02, 2013
Rand denounced the libertarians as … "advocates of anarchism – the most irrational, anti-intellectual notion ever spun by the concrete-bound, context-dropping, whim-worshiping fringe of the collectivist movement."
Rand was a Jewess who felt profound subconscious guilt over what rabid Jewish tribalism, namely Bolshevism, had done to her native Russia. Her Objecitvism is no more than a reactionary disgust to the more power-mad elements of her ethnicity, if they can even be so described, running blind with power and bloodlust, murdering 100million

I do not feel the same disgust, because ordinary Jews were used as pawns by the zionist Bolsheviks just as with every other group, just as they were pawns of zionist Germans under the Transfer Agreement negotiated with Hitler. What Netanyahu does in Israel seems removed to me from anything directly related to Judaism, and much in common with Hitler's fascism
nowhere
5 / 5 (5) Dec 03, 2013
The socialist perverts law to make plunder legal

Capitalists simply don't want to pay for their use of a countries infrastructure or for the associated costs of maintaining a free market. They want to shift the burden of cost onto the society of that country by claiming fair remuneration for utilisation of facilities and services is "plunder".

One trusts a capitalist to violate the law. Or try to have that law abolished.
ryggesogn2
1 / 5 (8) Dec 03, 2013
Capitalists simply don't want to pay for their use of a countries infrastructure or for the associated costs of maintaining a free market.


Ultimately the customers of businesses and the citizens of a country pay.
If a tax is really user fee for any state infrastructure that support defense, then that is not plunder.
For example, capitalists pay for the infrastructure at the Mall of America, but in turn must pass on those costs to their customers or go out of business.
It is plunder when a govt taxes their citizens to pay for a NFL football stadium or when people are forced to by wind power or solar power at a higher cost.
TheGhostofOtto1923
1 / 5 (3) Dec 03, 2013
What Netanyahu does in Israel seems removed to me from anything directly related to Judaism, and much in common with Hitler's fascism
Now now, hitler was only trying to protect his country as Netanyahoo is, in his case from the rot front and the soviet invasion he knew was inevitable. As it turned out the Germans saved fully half their country and the rest of Western Europe - and perhaps the world - from communism. I'd call this a pyrrhic victory.
ryggesogn2
1 / 5 (7) Dec 03, 2013
""There is one last thing to which the people can resort if the government does not respect the restrains that the constitution places on the government," Cannon said. "Abraham Lincoln talked about our right to alter our government or our revolutionary right to overthrow it.""
""That is certainly something that no one wants to contemplate," he continued. "If the people come to believe that the government is no longer constrained by the laws then they will conclude that neither are they."

"That is a very dangerous sort of thing for the president to do, to wantonly ignore the laws," "
http://www.mediai...ernment/
kochevnik
1.8 / 5 (5) Dec 03, 2013
What Netanyahu does in Israel seems removed to me from anything directly related to Judaism, and much in common with Hitler's fascism
Now now, hitler was only trying to protect his country as Netanyahoo is, in his case from the rot front and the soviet invasion he knew was inevitable. As it turned out the Germans saved fully half their country and the rest of Western Europe - and perhaps the world - from communism. I'd call this a pyrrhic victory.
There are some very strong and one-side views about Hitler but the stories do not come together seamlessly. In Russia he is, of course, reviled. Other places such as the USA found him very useful and a natural extension of their American Exceptionalism. Many stories are glued together by the victors but have no basis, such as WWII originating in a Serbian assassination. All the stories have a story behind. Much is hidden in an obvious power grab by hidden interests
VendicarE
2.5 / 5 (2) Dec 04, 2013
"Capitalists simply don't want to pay for their use of a countries infrastructure or for the associated costs of maintaining a free market." - Nowhere

Neither do Libertarian/Randite traitors like RyggTard.
VendicarE
3.7 / 5 (3) Dec 04, 2013
"Abraham Lincoln talked about our right to alter our government or our revolutionary right to overthrow it." - RyggTard

In other words, RyggTard is threatening that if Republicans aren't allowed to continue to Destroy America through incompetent Republican Governance they will start another civil war, and destroy it through violence, and mass murder.

I say, bring it on.
VendicarE
2.5 / 5 (2) Dec 04, 2013
"Ultimately the customers of businesses and the citizens of a country pay." - RyggTard

No, ultimately the corporations pay in terms of higher wage costs.

Poor RyggTard, he can only see the left side of every economic equation. As a result, he childishly pretends that the right side doesn't exist.

TheGhostofOtto1923
1 / 5 (2) Dec 04, 2013
Much is hidden in an obvious power grab by hidden interests
But if we scrape off all the politically-inspired propaganda and examine only the largest and most undeniable facts, a few things become very clear.

The German army smuggled Stalin back into Russia, where he wrested control of the revolution away from the ideologues and proceeded to kill them all. The soviet state became a fascist martial law dictatorship.

Rot Front activity was the main reason Germans embraced their own form of fascist dictatorship. The stage was thus set for round 2 of the greatest war in history.

The main effect of the Eurasian war was to kill huge numbers of idle young males; but more importantly, to destroy the religionist cultures which chronically produced them.

The result was a world made safe for the devt of nuclear power, complete superpower dominance, and cultures which would embrace family planning and the ONE BILLION ABORTIONS which alone have maintained stability and peace.
TheGhostofOtto1923
1 / 5 (2) Dec 04, 2013
Sorry I meant Lenin not Stalin. But it is obvious that, once again, a common people was divided over the course of a few generations and set against one another in a very controlled and manageable fashion, much like the US civil war, the Korean War, the Hutu/Tutsi mutual genocide, and most every conflict you may choose to examine.

That is, the powerful tribal dynamic was manipulated artificially and by design, in order to wage engineered conflicts to produce predetermined outcomes. The rus who founded Russia were german.

All one need accept to understand most of history, is the FACT that pops will always grow faster than they can feed themselves. And when they begin to suffer they will ALWAYS blame whoever is in charge for their misery. This makes conflict INEVITABLE.

It is obvious that Leaders would find this intolerable, and would seek to work together to resolve their mutual problems. And the obvious solution would be to wage wars constructively; by Design. Which is what we see.
TheGhostofOtto1923
1 / 5 (2) Dec 04, 2013
Leaders throughout the world would readily embrace the perception that the human tropical repro rate made the people their natural enemies. Leaders would begin to identify themselves as members of a Tribe wholly separate from the people they ruled. These Leaders would intermarry and would dedicate themselves to protecting their tribe and ensuring a future for their decendents.

This arrangement is most obvious in the interaction of the Greek city-states who waged war on the direction of the Delphic priestly community; and in medieval Europe where a mafia-like dynasty whose members were directly descended from Charlemagne, divided the continent and waged wars to pacify the populations.

This Empire has existed probably since the beginning of history. Of course; since they wrote the version of history which we have been taught. THEY wrote the holy books , tailored the languages, established the economic markets, political and educational systems. We exist at Their behest.
goracle
1 / 5 (2) Dec 06, 2013
What Netanyahu does in Israel seems removed to me from anything directly related to Judaism, and much in common with Hitler's fascism
Now now, hitler was only trying to protect his country as Netanyahoo is, in his case from the rot front and the soviet invasion he knew was inevitable. As it turned out the Germans saved fully half their country and the rest of Western Europe - and perhaps the world - from communism. I'd call this a pyrrhic victory.

With Stalin's purging of the military in the 1930s, and his misguided 'trust' of his partner Hitler, he did some of that saving-from-communism himself.
ryggesogn2
1 / 5 (4) Dec 06, 2013
"President Obama rejected the notion that the IRS' targeting of Tea Party groups was illegal — or even improper"

Read more: http://dailycalle...miRRB9Uv
"The Obama administration is about to approve a rule that will ensure the death of golden and bald eagles for the next 30 more years. "
http://www.breitb...f-Eagles
Some can kill eagles, but everyone.
kochevnik
1 / 5 (3) Dec 06, 2013
Looking at US it is a human wasteland failing on every scale. Zero tolerance and Americans taught to search for US-trained terrorists on US payroll. School children arrested and sent to jail for burping and sending love letters. Legal treatment is doses of Ritalin for fantasy ADHD diagnosis or the school and doctor are at risk of being sued. Once on Ritalin, the target's brain is changed to become a lifelong addict. People blindly obey their leaders, who in turn send them into a bloodbath like the US Civil War to reallign power interests. US schools are last in every important measure with Russia near the top

Walking streets of US I see zombified Americans on Ritalin and Prosiac their eyes fluttering walking directly into me they are so state-controlled by US corporofascists
ryggesogn2
1 / 5 (4) Dec 06, 2013
" I've found mixed reviews around the Russian people's trustworthiness, but there is good reason to believe what these women told me is true. As evident by some of the most recent viral YouTube clips, Russians don't even trust other Russians"
http://seabassont...-anyone/
kochevnik
1 / 5 (2) Dec 06, 2013
" I've found mixed reviews around the Russian people's trustworthiness, but there is good reason to believe what these women told me is true. As evident by some of the most recent viral YouTube clips, Russians don't even trust other Russians"
Really, youtube clips? That is fine for signing monkeys Why not literature?
kochevnik
1 / 5 (2) Dec 06, 2013
OCD skill numbers say US is last in skills. Last in numeracy and send to last in literature. Only above Italy. Last in problem solving. Obama is nation building Afghanistan but in US school budgets are cut and eachers fired. War spending double since 11Sep2001 including funds to pay terrorists in Syria. 68% of your tax is burned on military warmongering. Americans students have big debt and no education. Your college girls make the biggest percent of prostitutes!

I always said I was here to document the implosion of the USA into a third world banana republic. After the dollar implosion I can then turn toward documenting the eruption of civil war or colonization by the BRIC superpowers
goracle
2.3 / 5 (3) Dec 06, 2013
I think ryggesogn2 has hit the nail on the head. We've had 50 yrs of unbridled dominance of media, culture, education, and academia by the left. Distrust is an intended consequence of its divide-and-conquer, politics-is-everything, use-courts-to-bypass-democracy, conservatives-are-evil approach.

Up is down, left is right, in is out. Repeat until it is true. Standard nonsense.
ryggesogn2
1 / 5 (3) Dec 07, 2013
"The third rule is: Wherever possible go outside the experience of the enemy. Here you want to cause confusion, fear, and retreat."
"he fifth rule: Ridicule is man's most potent weapon."
"The thirteenth rule: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. — Rules for Radicals"
"What's wrong with pointing out how hostile the Democratic Party has become to Christianity? Why not point out the truth: that most white liberals are racists who think black Americas are too stupid and incompetent to compete with white Americans, which is why they push Affirmative Action and racial set asides? Why not note that liberals want poor Americans to stay poor and dependent, because as long as they do, they'll keep voting for the Democrat Party?"
http://townhall.c...age/full
ryggesogn2
1 / 5 (3) Dec 07, 2013
"Obama constantly moves from one divisive issue to the next, from Obamacare to gun-control, from amnesty for illegal immigrants to support for "same-sex marriage." We see now why this is so.

Obama does not want unity. He wants to keep the country as polarized and disoriented as possible."
http://www.frontp...d-deeds/
BHO is now dividing the watermelons by allowing windmills to kill eagles for 30 years.
ryggesogn2
1 / 5 (4) Dec 07, 2013
"multiculturalism does not mean that cultures blend. Mistrust prevails, communitarianism is rampant -- parallel societies are forming that continuously distance themselves from each other. "
" Social inequality does not explain the anti-Semitism, nor the misogyny in the suburbs, nor the insult "filthy French." The left does not want to accept that there is a clash of civilizations. "
http://www.spiege...4-2.html
TheGhostofOtto1923
1 / 5 (2) Dec 07, 2013
"The third rule is: Wherever possible go outside the experience of the enemy. Here you want to cause confusion, fear, and retreat."
"he fifth rule: Ridicule is man's most potent weapon."
"The thirteenth rule: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. — Rules for Radicals"
"What's wrong with pointing out how hostile the Democratic Party has become to Christianity
"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!" BMG

-You fundys are all alike.
goracle
not rated yet Dec 08, 2013
"How can it be that it is not a news item when an elderly homeless person dies of exposure but it is news when the stock market loses two points?" -- Pope Francis


The same thing happened with Paul Walker and his driver. A million tributes to Paul Walker (and they're still going), but everyone forgets about the other guy because he's an "average joe".

Paul who? Never heard of him..... Wait, did you say Average Joe is dead?
ryggesogn2
1 / 5 (2) Dec 15, 2013
"Obamacare was sold on a trinity of lies."

Read more: http://www.realcl...nYFgm4El
Follow us: @RCP_Articles on Twitter

"White House delayed enacting rules ahead of 2012 election to avoid controversy"
http://www.washin...ory.html
goracle
not rated yet Dec 16, 2013
"Obamacare was sold on a trinity of lies."

Read more: http://www.realcl...nYFgm4El

Anti-Obama crusade based on flakes: (CNN) A Texas woman pleaded guilty Tuesday to a biological weapons charge after she was accused of sending ricin-laced letters to President Barack Obama and New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, prosecutors announced.
Shannon Guess Richardson, 35, pleaded guilty to possession of a toxin for use as a weapon, prosecutors said in a statement.
Sounds like the WMD are in Texas. Regime change, anyone? http://www.cnn.co...n-obama/
ryggesogn2
not rated yet Dec 16, 2013
Amazing how 'liberals' still deflect to Bush while BHO is destroying jobs and health care and using the IRS to attack his enemies of his state.
And the latest shooter in CO liked 'liberal' economic policies, aka socialism, but the Denver paper chose not to report this.
goracle
not rated yet Dec 16, 2013
It seems greed has become a virtue, that may have something to do with it.

Don't be surprised if Gordon Gekko gives your post a 1.
http://en.wikiped...on_Gekko
ryggesogn2
not rated yet Dec 16, 2013
'The EPA's highest-paid employee and a leading expert on climate change deserves to go to prison for at least 30 months for lying to his bosses and saying he was a CIA spy working in Pakistan so he could avoid doing his real job, say federal prosecutors.'
http://investigat...eds?lite
Another reason not to trust AGWites.
ryggesogn2
not rated yet Dec 20, 2013
The Californian constitutional amendment to define marriage as one man and one woman passed because blacks and Hispanics overwhelmingly supported it.
Funny how the 'liberals' didn't attack these blacks and Hispanics for opposing the homosexual lobby.
But when a southern, white, Christian, male, duck hunter with a TV show doesn't support the homosexual lobby, he is soundly attacked by the 'tolerant' 'liberals'.
Many cable shows are appearing about moonshiners and now illegal marijuana growers, likely in Tennessee, and there was a show called Rocket City Rednecks on NatGeo. I wonder if the producers of these shows are 'liberals' and believe that by creating these shows, they believe they are reinforcing a stereotype in their minds of 'southern rednecks' while trying to make a profit from some the 'rednecks' who watch?
ryggesogn2
not rated yet Dec 20, 2013
Once again, BHO violates the law he demanded be passed:
"Americans whose health-insurance policies are being canceled because they don't comply with Obamacare requirements will be exempt from the law's mandate that they carry insurance, under a policy change the Obama administration announced late today. "
http://www.bloomb...led.html
ryggesogn2
not rated yet Dec 20, 2013
""To express yourself in a magazine in an interview — this is the level of punitive PC, utterly fascist, utterly Stalinist, OK, that my liberal colleagues in the Democratic Party and on college campuses have supported and promoted over the last several decades," Paglia said. "This is the whole legacy of free speech 1960's that have been lost by my own party."

Paglia went on to point out that while she is an atheist she respects religion and has been frustrated by the intolerance of gay activists.

"I think that this intolerance by gay activists toward the full spectrum of human beliefs is a sign of immaturity, juvenility," Paglia said

Read more: http://dailycalle...o1Iktg00
kochevnik
not rated yet Dec 20, 2013
@ryggie "I think that this intolerance by gay activists toward the full spectrum of human beliefs is a sign of immaturity, juvenility," Paglia said
Blind belief is like driving an auto with your eyes closed. It may not always end badly, but religionists celebrate those lucky few survivors as saints while trampling over the corpses they caused

Hitler was an efficient christian, and he merely acted upon notions that originated in the USA. Americans killed up to 100,000,000 natives as police. 90% of the federal budget funded killing natives. In contrast Hitler is a mere footnote, ensconcing the 1000 year old christian crooked cross in his flag as the inspiration for his inquisition

The US House has faces at it's podium. Only the blind can claim it is not a fascist empire. Unsurprising since fascism is impossible without religion