Hidden rift valley discovered beneath West Antarctica reveals new insight into ice loss

Jul 25, 2012
Hidden rift valley discovered beneath West Antarctica reveals new insight into ice loss
Map of Eltanin Bay.

Scientists have discovered a one mile deep rift valley hidden beneath the ice in West Antarctica, which they believe is contributing to ice loss from this part of the continent.

Experts from the University of Aberdeen and (BAS) made the discovery below Ferrigno Stream, a region visited only once previously, over fifty years ago, in 1961, and one that is remote even by Antarctic standards.

Their findings, reported in Nature this week reveal that the ice-filled ancient rift basin is connected to the warming ocean which impacts upon contemporary ice flow and loss.

The is of great scientific interest and societal importance as it is losing ice faster than any other part of Antarctica with some shrinking by more than one metre per year.

Understanding the processes that influence ice loss from is important to improve predictions of its future behaviour in a warming world.

Dr Robert Bingham, a working in the University of Aberdeen's School of and lead author of the study, discovered the rift valley whilst undertaking three months of fieldwork with British Antarctic Survey in 2010.

Dr Bingham, whose was funded by the UK's Natural Environment Research Council (NERC) said: "Over the last 20 years we have used satellites to monitor ice losses from Antarctica, and we have witnessed consistent and substantial ice losses from around much of its .

"For some of the glaciers, including Ferrigno Ice Stream, the losses are especially pronounced, and, to understand why, we needed to acquire data about conditions beneath the ice surface."

The team gathered the data using an ice-penetrating towed behind a skidoo driven across the relatively flat ice surface, over a distance of 1500 miles – greater than that between London and Athens.

Dr Bingham continued: "What we found is that lying beneath the ice there is a large valley, parts of which are approximately a mile deeper than the surrounding landscape.

"If you stripped away all of the ice here today, you'd see a feature every bit as dramatic as the huge rift valleys you see in Africa and in size as significant as the Grand Canyon.

"This is at odds with the flat ice surface that we were driving across – without these measurements we would never have known that it was there.

"What's particularly important is that this spectacular valley aligns perfectly with the recordings of ice-surface lowering and ice loss that we have witnessed with satellite observations over this area for the last twenty years."

Co-author and geophysicist Dr Fausto Ferraccioli from British Antarctic Survey added: "The newly discovered Ferrigno Rift is part of a huge and yet poorly understood rift system that lies beneath the West .

"What this study shows is that this ancient rift basin, and the others discovered under the ice that connect to the warming ocean can influence contemporary ice flow and may exacerbate ice losses by steering coastal changes further inland."

Professor David Vaughan, from British Antarctic Survey leads Ice2sea, a major EU-funded FP7 research programme to improve projections of global and regional sea-level. He said, "Thinning ice in West Antarctica is currently contributing nearly 10 per cent of global sea level rise. It's important to understand this hot spot of change so we can make more accurate predictions for future sea level rise."

The research in Nature is part of the British Antarctic Survey Icesheets Programme, which examines the role of ice sheets in the Earth System, and the processes that control ice-sheet change. It monitors current change and sets this in context with the past allowing more accurate projections for increases in global sea level to be made.

Explore further: Researchers construct a model of impact for El Nino / La Nina events

More information: Inland thinning of West Antarctic Ice Sheet steered along subglacial rifts by Robert G. Bingham, Fausto Ferraccioli, Edward C. King, Robert D. Larter, Hamish D. Pritchard, Andrew M. Smith, David G. Vaughan is published in the journal Nature.

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Lino235
1.6 / 5 (14) Jul 25, 2012
Vendicar:

What's your spin on this?
Vendicar_Decarian
3.9 / 5 (14) Jul 25, 2012
First: I note that they didn't find any of the 3 million volcanoes surroundin Antarctica that denialist imagineering has magically placed there to explain the coastal ice loss.

Second: I understand that a rift valley comparable to the Grand Canyon does not appear overnite and hence existed long before the ongoing collapse of the West Antarctic ice sheet.

Third: I note that rift valleys are not a source of heat, although I have little doubt that if they saw political points to score, denialists would claim that they are and try to explain the desert surrounding the Grand Canyon based on such a fantasy.

Forth: If properly oriented such a valley can be expected to channel underwater currents under the ice sheet from the surrounding warmer ocean, tending to increase the melt rate from below.

Fifth: In the past, when the ice sheet was stable, both the sheet, the ocean and the rift valley existed.

What has changed is the warming of the air above and ocean surrounding Antarctica.

3432682
2 / 5 (24) Jul 25, 2012
Total ice mass in Antarctica is growing.
rubberman
3 / 5 (14) Jul 25, 2012
Total ice mass in Antarctica is growing.


Whew. Thanks for setting us straight.
Osiris1
1.8 / 5 (20) Jul 25, 2012
Skip over to the Danikil Depression contained within Africa'g Great Rift. It is lower than sea level by 300 meters, the lowest point of dry land on the surface of the earth. That depression contains volcanos of the pooling lava type like running bleeding spots on a skin being stretched beyond stretch mark like breaking point. Point is an extreme case of the earth being warmer the deeper you go in it. That makes a case for this valley melting water all by itself due to geological causes...the Great Rift of Africa being an example. Even the Grand Canyon is warmer at the bottom than at the top, and contains there a microclimate beneficial to the tribe that lives there.
ryggesogn2
2.3 / 5 (22) Jul 25, 2012
What! Gaia is melting its ice?
I recall some science special about a river of ice on Antarctica. It was suggested why was causing the ice to slide, besides the slope, was a thin layer of water between the the ice and the earth suggesting a combination of pressure and heat from below created the liquid layer of lubricant. Of course it was suggested that heat from global warming was being conducted through a mile thick layer of ice which caused the ice to melt.
Vendicar_Decarian
3.9 / 5 (14) Jul 25, 2012
Find a denialist... Expose a liar...

"Total ice mass in Antarctica is growing." - 3532682

"The MBM record indicates an acceleration in mass loss of 21.9 ± 1 Gt/yr2 for Greenland and 14.5 ± 2 Gt/yr2 for Antarctica. The lower uncertainty reflects the reduced influence of temporal variations in SMB for the longer record. The uncertainty in acceleration is thus reduced to 5% for Greenland and 10% for Antarctica. When the mass changes from both ice sheets are combined together (Figure 2c), the data reveal an increase in ice sheet mass loss of 36.3 ± 2 Gt/yr2." - RIGNOT ET AL.: ACCELERATION OF ICE SHEET LOSS - http://igitur-arc...2011.pdf

https://docs.goog...hYlE5aDA
Vendicar_Decarian
3.9 / 5 (14) Jul 25, 2012

With denialist imagineering you have managed to have tripled the depth of the rift.

"Skip over to the Danikil Depression contained within Africa'g Great Rift. It is lower than sea level by 300 meters, the lowest point of dry land on the surface of the earth." - Osirus

"The Danakil Depression is a desert basin which lies in the Danakil Desert in north-eastern Ethiopia and southern Eritrea. It belongs to the homeland of the Afar people. It lies up to 100 m below sea level as a result of tectonic activity caused by plate movements." - http://en.wikiped...pression

Of course this is nothing compared to the active volcano at the bottom of the grand canyon.
Vendicar_Decarian
3.6 / 5 (17) Jul 25, 2012
Nope. Mankind is melting Gaia's ice.

"What! Gaia is melting its ice?" - RyggTard

RyggTard's ideological hero Ayn Rand spent her life denying that smoking causes cancer and expressing violent hate for those on welfare.

She died collecting welfare in a hospital bed paid for by public money from lung cancer contracted from a lifetime of smoking.

Gaia Justice.
Vendicar_Decarian
3.8 / 5 (16) Jul 25, 2012
Sadly, watching such 5th grade, public school science, is as close to thinking as RyggTard will ever come.

"I recall some science special about a river of ice on Antarctica" - RyggTard

He is a text book example of how the ignorance of Conservative ideology has destroyed America.

PussyCat_Eyes
1.8 / 5 (25) Jul 25, 2012
ummmm nope. Actually, since you brought up the subject, VD, it's the Conservative ideology that will SAVE America from the welfare bums and supporters of Socialist immorality. And with that, I leave all you Liberal experts to solve the world's problems. Ta Ta
:)
ryggesogn2
2.3 / 5 (18) Jul 25, 2012
"Scientists find lakes and rivers beneath fast moving Antarctic ice that lubricate flow"
http://terranatur...ways.htm
TheGhostofOtto1923
2.1 / 5 (14) Jul 25, 2012
ummmm nope. Actually, since you brought up the subject, VD, it's the Conservative ideology that will SAVE America from the welfare bums and supporters of Socialist immorality. And with that, I leave all you Liberal experts to solve the world's problems. Ta Ta
:)
-But who will save it from the bankrupt morality of people who think that posting links to gay porn sites here is some kind of SCIENCE? Haha. Makes you proud to share a religion with this sort of person eh ryggy?
http://phys.org/n...ity.html
Vendicar_Decarian
3.7 / 5 (9) Jul 25, 2012
Has RyggTard yet again been posting links to gay porn sites?

An intelligent person would have learned the first few times they did it.

But RyggTard is incapable of learning because he has Libertarian disease.

PussyCat_Eyes
Jul 25, 2012
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Vendicar_Decarian
3.8 / 5 (10) Jul 25, 2012
Yup.
Ice melts into water.
Water carves channels through the remaining ice to the ground.
The water flows to the ground forming lakes and streams that lubricate the flow of the ice above, thereby speeding the flow of ice to the ocean, and increasing the rate of glacial retreat.

"Scientists find lakes and rivers beneath fast moving Antarctic ice that lubricate flow" - RyggTard

Poor RyggTard. He isn't even capable of comprehending the ramifications of the science he does read.

How typically Conservative of him.
PussyCat_Eyes
1.5 / 5 (16) Jul 25, 2012
Actually VD, Blotto got his nose out of joint because I described a dangerous form of multi-tasking in this thread about dangerous m.t.
blotto didn't like my description and called it smutty because it was about a man making love to a woman while she's cooking dinner.
http://medicalxpr...ous.html
PussyCat_Eyes
Jul 25, 2012
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Vendicar_Decarian
3.5 / 5 (13) Jul 26, 2012
And PussyCat lies posted some gay porn links as well.

Links from GayBoysTube.

PussyCat's links can be found on page 11 of the discussion thread.

"No VD....those are GhostofBlotto's gay porn sites." - PussyCatLies

The fixation that Conservatives show for such nonsense is difficult to understand until one realizes that Conservatives are pretty much incapable of thinking for themselves, and exist on a non-stop diet of ignorance and intolerance fed to them by their puppet masters.
Vendicar_Decarian
3.2 / 5 (11) Jul 26, 2012
Given PussyCatLies and RyggTards posting of gay porn links to a science site, it might explain why RyggTard's latest post involves "lubricating the flow".

PussyCat_Eyes
Jul 26, 2012
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PussyCat_Eyes
Jul 26, 2012
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Midcliff
4.2 / 5 (10) Jul 26, 2012
oops! RyggTard forgot to mention the article in the left hand column of hs link strongly supporting the AGW hypothesis.

http://terranatur...tion.htm

Not to worry tho, Rygg will gleefully point out the melting ice will provide more water to absorb the excess CO2, lol :P
Vendicar_Decarian
3.5 / 5 (11) Jul 26, 2012
RyggTard is a man of science. And as a man of science he will undoubtedly recommend that all those cubic miles of melting glacial ice in Antarctica and Greenland could be bottled, shipped to the U.S. midwest and used to solve the desertification problem there.

Ok... He is a man of 5th grade science.
Vendicar_Decarian
3.3 / 5 (12) Jul 26, 2012
Porn consumption - particularly deviant porn - is much higher among consrevative christian Americans than among the general Liberal population.

And of course the Libertarian party platform (RyggTard's party) supports the legalization of child molestation.

"rygge is totally innocent....he's not into any porn.." - PussyCatLies

http://www.youtub...e=relmfu
PussyCat_Eyes
1.9 / 5 (17) Jul 26, 2012
oh...now VD is into child molestation. reminds me of the "rumor" that VD is into pedophilia...is this true or not, VD?
PussyCat_Eyes
1.9 / 5 (14) Jul 26, 2012
"And of course the Libertarian party platform (RyggTard's party) supports the legalization of child molestation."

You are wrong as usual, VD. Look up the words 'emancipated minor' and that should give you a clue about the legality of a minor declaring him or herself to be emancipated from his/her parents or guardian. All the rest are runaways...like yourself.
Vendicar_Decarian
3.7 / 5 (9) Jul 26, 2012
And of course the Libertarian party platform (RyggTard's party) supports the legalization of child molestation.

Sadly PussyCatLies just can't handle the above fact and needs to change the subject as quickly as possible.

Honesty isn't one of her strong points.

Anda
5 / 5 (12) Jul 26, 2012
I'm getting tired of all the idiots that come here to write stupid comments.
ryggesogn2
1.9 / 5 (14) Jul 26, 2012
"Lake Vostok is similar in size to Lake Ontario. It is kept from freezing into a solid block by the more than two-mile-thick crust of ice across it that acts like a blanket, keeping in heat generated by geothermal energy underneath. "
http://www.msnbc....T_HjAH0g
"Liquid water at the base of the ice streams is thought to be a key factor controlling their movement. Research by Tulaczyk and others has revealed networks of subglacial lakes beneath the ice that may have substantial effects on the dynamics of the ice sheets.

How the lakes form beneath a half-mile of ice remains a mystery, but scientists believe that geothermal energy plays a critical role, heating the ice from below."
http://news.ucsc....309.html
Vendicar_Decarian
4.1 / 5 (9) Jul 26, 2012
Denialist RyggTard believes that a cap of below -40'C ice is keeping water from freezing but can't figure out how CO2 radiating heat back to the earth's surface, increases the earth's surface temperature.

"Lake Vostok is similar in size to Lake Ontario. It is kept from freezing into a solid block by the more than two-mile-thick crust of ice across it that acts like a blanket." - RyggTard

Libertarian/Randites live in a world of self imposed ignorance and manufactured fantasy.
Lino235
1.2 / 5 (10) Jul 26, 2012


Vendicar:

About that ice loss we see in the Antartica:

"What's particularly important is that this spectacular valley aligns perfectly with the recordings of ice-surface lowering and ice loss that we have witnessed with satellite observations over this area for the last twenty years."

TheGhostofOtto1923
2.1 / 5 (11) Jul 26, 2012
Porn consumption - particularly deviant porn - is much higher among consrevative christian Americans than among the general Liberal population.
The thing about sex addicts who enjoy 'slamming' each other while cooking dinner, and then bragging about it in a public venue such as this, is 1) they are usually mentally challenged (imbecilic) and 2) tend to be serial aborters or, as some self-deluders might call them, 'miscarriages'.

They may even think that Jesus approves of this sort of behavior because 1) they believe Jesus loves them and 2) THEY think it is ok, so 3) Jesus must think it is ok as well.

It's not, and they are the dregs.
XQZME
1.9 / 5 (14) Jul 26, 2012
When you see the word warming as many times as is present in this article, you know the authors have an agenda perhaps more research money. As this graph shows, sea ice extent (10th largest) is 2.48% above 1979 to 2000 average and is even above last years extent.

http://images.sea...ary%2B3%
XQZME
1.9 / 5 (14) Jul 26, 2012
Record Antarctic sea ice extent in 2009-2010 may be related to sea level drop in those years.
http://wattsupwit...tic1.png
http://sealevel.c...-removed

New research of Antarctic ice cores shows CO2 follows temperature by a few hundred years at most.
http://wattsupwit...at-most/

Of course we dont expect the AGW paid shill, V_D, to accept this as he has proven in the past that he lacks the fourth grade education necessary to read graphs.
sherky
1 / 5 (6) Jul 26, 2012
like Arthur replied I am shocked that a student able to earn $9035 in four weeks on the internet. have you seen this web link NuttyRich.com
Vendicar_Decarian
4.3 / 5 (7) Jul 26, 2012
"this spectacular valley aligns perfectly" - Lino325

Wasn't it aligned perfectly 200 years ago when the ice caps weren't shrinking?

What has changed since then?
Vendicar_Decarian
4.5 / 5 (8) Jul 26, 2012
ClapTrap.

"Record Antarctic sea ice extent in 2009-2010 may be related to sea level drop in those years." - XQZME

The sea level decline in 2009 - 2010 was primarily due to massive flooding in Australia, the Pacific Rim and South America.

This water takes some time to percolate through the soil and back to the ocean.

As to the Denialist site, WhattsUpWith that run by the former Radio Weather Reader Antony Watts, no one goes there to find honest analysis.

Whattsup is a Denialist circle jerk blog in which amateurs compete with each other to say the dumbest things possible, conduct meaningless "research" and pretend they know something about climate.

Watts is to science as a chimp banging on a piano is to Mozart.

Vendicar_Decarian
4.5 / 5 (8) Jul 26, 2012
The word warming appears a total of three times in the article.

"When you see the word warming as many times as is present in this article, you know the authors have an agenda" - XQZME

What does XQZME's distortion say about his agenda?

XQZME
1.3 / 5 (12) Jul 27, 2012
V_D Unlike the amateurish pro-AGW sites, WattsupWithThat uses data provided by Government agencies like the IPCC, NOAA, NASA, the University of Colorado, UCLA, UCSD, etc. You just denigrate it because facts contradict your opinion. The source for the referenced graph is the NOAA National Snow and Ice Data Center. I used the shorter link to WattsupWithThat because phys.org cant handle the longer link which is 845 characters. However you can try this link. The graph is the first image in the last row.

http://images.sea...p;fr=sfp
rubberman
3.4 / 5 (10) Jul 27, 2012
"Watts is to science as a chimp banging on a piano is to Mozart."

This is an insult to chimps everywhere, Mozart would at least recognize their effort and applaud their choice of instrument. That's 2 more redeeming qualities than Watts has...although in an IQ comparison Watts has the chimp mildly outpaced.

Excuseme...the article isn't about sea ice, but thanks.
SteveL
2.3 / 5 (4) Jul 27, 2012
Vendicar, not all of us conservatives are denialists, nor are we all ignorant or liars. As an independent conservative I don't consider all liberals to be abusive or mentally defective, although many are. Responsible discourse requires understanding the logical differentiation which implies that individuals in a group do not necessarily represent the group. Don't let a niggling minority represent the entire group. Silent majorities are exactly that, silent.

As for agendas, everyone has one. The world is warming, that is a fact. Ice is melting, that is a fact. The significant questions are: Where do we go from here? How do we get there while doing the least amount of damage? What will actually work and what is just a trendy waste of time and resources? So far I have only heard a lot of yammering from our leaders and seen little action. I find it sad for my country that trillions have been basically wasted that could have put people to work on solutions.
SteveL
3.7 / 5 (3) Jul 27, 2012
Acknowledging that the question might arise concerning what I think might actually help reverse this process I'll submit the following:

1: Do not contribute directly to companies like Solyndra, instead help banks redesign mortgage and business loans to include proven energy micro-producing technologies. Provide either a further enhanced tax deduction or a loan interest rate deduction to encourage distributed energy production. Basically provide financial incentive to do the right thing.

2: Scale back and eventually stop subsidizing reproduction via the tax code. Why we are basically paying billions to people to have more children in an overpopulated world that is already straining its resources is beyond me. If you can afford to have kids, go for it, but encouraging Octomoms and more to have kids they can't support is simply and moronically stupid.

Continued:
SteveL
3.5 / 5 (4) Jul 27, 2012
3: Tax the hell out of fuel to pay for suggestion 1 and other initiatives. The high cost will make economizing our autos our homes and our lifestyles make more sense. Again; encourage people to do the right thing.

4: Contribute to education-based research, not corporate-based research. I know they are joined at the hip, but still we need as much invested into education as we can get. Government should not impede business, but it should not be picking corporate winners and losers based on political agendas. If the recent past is any indication the US political machine isn't so good at picking corporate winners anyhow, so lets stop wasting scant economic resources trying.

5: Re-design government. I find it sad that the US Department of Interior spent almost $200 million researching over 3000 strains of algae for biodiesel production over the course of 5 years and that data just sits at the University of Hawaii while the Department of Energy repeated similar research years later.
ryggesogn2
1 / 5 (9) Jul 27, 2012
encourage people to do the right thing.

No, this is coercing people to the thing you think is 'right'.
Which is quite typical of the 'liberal'/'progressive'/socialist.
Steve, I hate to break it to you, you are NOT a conservative.
SteveL
5 / 5 (3) Jul 27, 2012
5: (Continued) Unclassified government research needs to be in a centralized database that is available to all other branches of that government. The idea that one branch has no knowledge what other branches have learned after hundreds of millions have been spent is not representative of a good use for taxpayer investment. This unclassified information from taxpayer funded research should be made available to the public after a certain period of time, perhaps 3-5 years.

Basically I want my government to be smart and agile. I want to know my country's leadership is worthy of the trust due my taxpayer/voter investment. I want smart pro growth and pro ecological policies and procedures that exist beyond any present administration. I honestly feel that if we could just get the damn lawyers and PACs for the major political parties out of government we could actually get something useful done.
ryggesogn2
1 / 5 (8) Jul 27, 2012
we could actually get something useful done.

Definitely NOT a conservative.
SteveL
4 / 5 (4) Jul 27, 2012
encourage people to do the right thing.

No, this is coercing people to the thing you think is 'right'.
Which is quite typical of the 'liberal'/'progressive'/socialist.
Steve, I hate to break it to you, you are NOT a conservative.
It's OK. I don't consider you to be one either. Also, I have no problem with not being your type or version of conservative. Anyone from either side who cherry picks data is dishonest. I can't put it any simpler than that.
ryggesogn2
1.4 / 5 (9) Jul 27, 2012
"Positive freedom, however desirable, often cannot be proven by material standards since in many cases the perception of the object of positive freedom, doing good, as well as the standard by which that object is considered worthwhile, varies from person to person according to the material desires, the false self, of each individual citizen and statesman. Furthermore, any material means provided by the state to guarantee the positive freedom of one individual invariably involve acts of coercion against another individual, a violation of negative or natural freedom, which usually undermines both individuals' pursuit of spiritual freedom. "
http://www.acton....-defined

So Steve, how do you plan to control the power of the state to do only the 'good' YOU think it should do?
Vendicar_Decarian
4.4 / 5 (7) Jul 27, 2012
RyggTard holds as a matter of Christian faith that he has no obligation to pay for police protection, his local fire department, the construction and maintenance of sewers, water supplies, bridges, or the development of new drugs, medical equipment, and techlology that improves the length and quality of life.

He demands that he be allowed to be a parasite on society, and as a society we permit him that right and grant him permission to live out his life uncoerced floating alone in the middle of the ocean.

"Furthermore, any material means provided by the state to guarantee the positive freedom of one individual invariably involve acts of coercion against another individul" - Ryggtard

I pay my taxes willingly with full knowledge that those taxes are the price of belonging to the society I live in.

RyggTard's conclusion that all taxation is theft is therefore demonstrated to be false.

All of the Libertarian religion has a similar foundation of sand and is why his alternate (CONT)
Vendicar_Decarian
4.3 / 5 (6) Jul 27, 2012
religion of Objectivism is laughed at by experts in real philosophy.
Vendicar_Decarian
4.2 / 5 (5) Jul 27, 2012
The lack of integrity of Watts was shows when he publicly stated that he would support the results of the "BEST" climate analysis no matter what it showed, and then publicly denounced it when it showed that the IPCC, the NOAA, NASA, UHA, Jaxa and the rest have the warming trends right.

"WattsupWithThat uses data provided by Government agencies like the IPCC, NOAA, NASA, the University of Colorado, UCLA, UCSD, etc." - XQZME

ANTHONY WATTS CHERRY PICKS QUOTE ABOUT RECORD GREENLAND MELT: SURPRISED? HARDLY

http://watchingth...y-watts/

The lies of Bob Carter and Anthony Watts

http://www.climat.../?p=5478

He will publish literally anything with a conclusion that suits his agenda

http://wottsupwit...ieve-it/

Settled: Anthony Watts Is A Fraud

http://www.thesci...-a-fraud
NotParker
1.4 / 5 (11) Jul 28, 2012
"warming ocean"?

Not since 1998.

http://www.woodfo...rom:1998
Vendicar_Decarian
5 / 5 (4) Jul 28, 2012
Parker Tard's latest lie is easy to expose.

He uses hadset2sh rather than hadset2nh, and starts his time series during a period of extreme ocean warming.

http://www.woodfo...rom:1998

"Not since 1998." - Parkertard

Here are more representative graphs.

http://www.woodfo...rom:1997

http://www.woodfo...rom:1994

Climate trends are defined over 30 year periods or longer, rather then the cherry picked 5 and 10 year periods that Chronic liars like ParkerTard attempt to use.

NotParker
1.4 / 5 (11) Jul 28, 2012
Parker Tard's latest lie is easy to expose.

He uses hadset2sh rather than hadset2nh


sh = southern hemisphere.

VD is so dumb he doesn't know where Antarctica is.

And he's so dumb he thinks sea temperature in 1982 causes melting now.
Vendicar_Decarian
5 / 5 (4) Jul 29, 2012
"sh = southern hemisphere." - ParkerTard

Indicating that ParkerTard knowingly limited his presentation to the southern hemisphere and then claimed that this temperature change reflected a global change.

Lying is ParkerTard's normal pattern of behavior. He is of course, mentally diseased.

Here is the ocean temperature change that ParkerTard dishonestly claimed was "cooling"

http://www.woodfo...11/trend

ParkerTard can't seem to complete a paragraph without it containing at least one lie.

NotParker
1.4 / 5 (10) Jul 29, 2012
"sh = southern hemisphere." - ParkerTard

Indicating that ParkerTard knowingly limited his presentation to the southern hemisphere and then claimed that this temperature change reflected a global change.

Lying is ParkerTard's normal pattern of behavior. He is of course, mentally diseased.

Here is the ocean temperature change that ParkerTard dishonestly claimed was "cooling"

http://www.woodfo...11/trend

ParkerTard can't seem to complete a paragraph without it containing at least one lie.


"sh = southern hemisphere." - ParkerTard

Indicating that ParkerTard knowingly limited his presentation to the southern hemisphere ...


Because thats where Antarctica is.

VD, try Google Maps.