Theoretical physicists offer explanation of how bacteria might generate radio waves

April 28, 2011 by Bob Yirka report

E coli

Low-temperature electron micrograph of a cluster of E. coli bacteria, magnified 10,000 times. Each individual bacterium is oblong shaped. Photo by Eric Erbe, digital colorization by Christopher Pooley, both of USDA, ARS, EMU.

(PhysOrg.com) -- Four theoretical physicists, led by Allan Widom, of Northeastern University, have published a paper in arXiv, where they show a possible way for some bacteria to produce radio waves. Taking note of the fact that bacteria DNA forms in loops rather than the familiar helix seen in humans, Widom, et al, describe a process whereby free electrons that flow through such a loop by hopping from atom to atom, wind up producing photons when energy levels change.

While the paper hasn’t whipped up nearly as much controversy as happened when French virologist Luc Montagnier, (Nobel Prize winner for linking HIV and AIDS) first suggested back in 2009 that bacteria might be able to communicate with one another via , it has nonetheless sparked tremendous debate among biologists and other scientists in the field. The problem has been that Montagnier showed that when compared to pure water, samples chockfull of bacteria, emitted more radio waves, and no one could explain why.

Researchers have known for years that some bacteria do communicate via nanowires, which led Widom and his team to conclude that it wasn’t so farfetched to believe more highly developed bacteria, such as E. coli or Mycoplasma pirum, might instead communicate via wireless medium.

Basing their findings on modeling, Widom and his team, calculated that the transition frequencies broadcast (0.5, 1 and 1.5 kHz) when traversed bacterial loops and met with differing , corresponded with just the amount of signal emission found in the E. coli bacterial studies by Montagnier.

The problem here of course is that while the model does suggest that certain bacteria might be capable of producing radio waves, it doesn’t go anywhere towards proving that such radio waves are actually used as a means of communication, either by the sender bacterium, or another receiver. There’s no research thus far that shows any sort response to such radio waves or any sort of “message” that might be encoded in such missives; hence the current controversy about what to make of bacteria that can produce radio waves.

It’s likely these new findings will incite others to look a little deeper, however, as the main argument for rejecting Montagnier’s findings back in 2009, was that lacked a means for generating radio signals; an assertion that has now been overthrown.

More information: Electromagnetic Signals from Bacterial DNA, A. Widom, J. Swain, Y. N. Srivastava, S. Sivasubramanian, arXiv:1104.3113v1 [physics.bio-ph] http://arxiv.org/abs/1104.3113

Abstract
Chemical reactions can be induced at a distance due to the propagation of electromagnetic signals during intermediate chemical stages. Although is is well known at optical frequencies, e.g. photosynthetic reactions, electromagnetic signals hold true for muck lower frequencies. In E. coli bacteria such electromagnetic signals can be generated by electric transitions between energy levels describing electrons moving around DNA loops. The electromagnetic signals between different bacteria within a community is a "wireless" version of intercellular communication found in bacterial communities connected by "nanowires". The wireless broadcasts can in principle be of both the AM and FM variety due to the magnetic flux periodicity in electron energy spectra in bacterial DNA orbital motions.

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KBK
Apr 28, 2011

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And Dr. Royal Raymond Rife used radio waves..and so did others..to kill bacteria.

Large numbers of you may have never heard about this man. If any of you have faith in the science of medicine as tied to corporations, I hope it will end when you read about what happened to this man. He threatened the corporations behind $3 trillion of industry. He threatened them with total extinction.

With a simple non invasive cure where the resonant frequency of the given specific viral/bacterial DNA was targeted. He then resonated that 'antenna' of the given specific DNA and broke the given DNA apart.. and sent people home, cured, in minutes, in many cases.

Fancy that. You've been given 'over unity' energy nearly hundreds of time and near perfect universal medical cures many dozens of times, from various sources.

Each time these people and their efforts have been removed from the system with extreme force and prejudice.

More and more of you are coming to understand these truths.

Finally.
bugmenot23
Apr 28, 2011

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Actually Rife never claimed that his device was suppressed by the American Medical Association. That claim was made by the author of a book published years later, after his death. 'The Cancer Cure That Worked' (1987). The reason people lost interest in Rife's device was that they were unable to replicate the results claimed by him.
macsglen
Apr 28, 2011

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@KBK:
Keep blowing the industries' secrets about this and you'll be next . . . ;-)
trekgeek1
Apr 28, 2011

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You've been given 'over unity' energy nearly hundreds of time


And we've lost him.....
hemitite
Apr 28, 2011

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It's funny, but the first thing I thought of was that these bug's resonant DNA rings might be used against them, if not directly, then by heating them to activate some kind of antibiotic agent.
orgon
Apr 28, 2011

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Many single-celled organisms (including the common yeast) are capable of generation of sound with vibrations of their membranes. Because these membranes are charged (they're source of so-called Donnan & surface potentials), it could generate radio-waves too.
hemitite
Apr 28, 2011

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My flask is alive with the sounds of fungus... ;)
axemaster
Apr 28, 2011

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Fancy that. You've been given 'over unity' energy nearly hundreds of time and near perfect universal medical cures many dozens of times, from various sources.


If you had ever bothered learning basic mathematics, you would understand why "over unity" energy sources cannot be built. Moreover, proving it is laughably easy.

Please, stop embarrassing yourself.
Megadeth312
Apr 28, 2011

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Although is is well known at optical frequencies, e.g. photosynthetic reactions, electromagnetic signals hold true for muck lower frequencies


come on guys, read it before you post it...
ShotmanMaslo
Apr 29, 2011

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But where is the modulator? And receiver?
Sean_W
Apr 29, 2011

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As for the article, I have often wondered why radio has never evolved as an organic means of communication since chemical communications are so valuable in the biological world. I had assumed that there were physical limitations which prevented it from being useful but maybe it is actually being used.

I have read about EM radiation from tissue which does not correspond to thermodynamically predicted frequency which suggests that tissues may be producing and detecting light for unexplained purposes. There are a lot of unanswered questions about EM radiation from biological systems but it may be a field of productive inquiry. Hopefully the taint of new-age jargon does not dissuade ppl from researching the subject.
mrcircumspect
Apr 30, 2011

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KBK: C'mon pal we're peers here. Don't treats us like dunces.
"Large numbers of you may have never heard about this man... More and more of you are coming to understand these truths."

Is this like secret society ... real wisdom that you, and a handful of illuminati have discovered?

hemtite: Great humor :D

Sean W & orgon: Love your minds men! Thoughtful, reflective and uncritical of others oversights.
Isaacsname
May 01, 2011

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Yes, ...but do they experience telecognition ?

:)
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