Black holes: a model for superconductors?
This artist's concept shows a galaxy with a supermassive black hole at its core. The black hole is shooting out jets of radio waves. Image credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech
Black holes are some of the heaviest objects in the universe. Electrons are some of the lightest. Now physicists at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign have shown how charged black holes can be used to model the behavior of interacting electrons in unconventional superconductors.
"The context of this problem is high-temperature superconductivity," said Phillips. "One of the great unsolved problems in physics is the origin of superconductivity (a conducting state with zero resistance) in the copper oxide ceramics discovered in 1986." The results of research by Phillips and his colleagues Robert G. Leigh, Mohammad Edalati, and Ka Wai Lo were published online in Physical Review Letters on March 1 and in Physical Review D on February 25.
Unlike the old superconductors, which were all metals, the new superconductors start off their lives as insulators. In the insulating state of the copper-oxide materials, there are plenty of places for the electrons to hop but nonethelessno current flows. Such a state of matter, known as a Mott insulator after the pioneering work of Sir Neville Mott, arises from the strong repulsions between the electrons. Although this much is agreed upon, much of the physics of Mott insulators remains unsolved, because there is no exact solution to the Mott problem that is directly applicable to the copper-oxide materials.
Enter string theoryan evolving theoretical effort that seeks to describe the known fundamental forces of nature, including gravity, and their interactions with matter in a single, mathematically complete system.
Fourteen years ago, a string theorist, Juan Maldacena, conjectured that some strongly interacting quantum mechanical systems could be modeled by classical gravity in a spacetime having constant negative curvature. The charges in the quantum system are replaced by a charged black hole in the curved spacetime, thereby wedding the geometry of spacetime with quantum mechanics.
Since the Mott problem is an example of strongly interacting particles, Phillips and colleagues asked the question: "Is it possible to devise a theory of gravity that mimics a Mott insulator?" Indeed it is, as they have shown.
The researchers built on Maldacena's mapping and devised a model for electrons moving in a curved spacetime in the presence of a charged black hole that captures two of the striking features of the normal state of high-temperature superconductors: 1) the presence of a barrier for electron motion in the Mott state, and 2) the strange metal regime in which the electrical resistivity scales as a linear function of temperature, as opposed to the quadratic dependence exhibited by standard metals.
The treatment advanced in the paper published in Physical Review Letters shows surprisingly that the boundary of the spacetime consisting of a charged black hole and weakly interacting electrons exhibits a barrier for electrons moving in that region, just as in the Mott state. This work represents the first time the Mott problem has been solved (essentially exactly) in a two-dimensional system, the relevant dimension for the high-temperature superconductors.
"The next big question that we must address," said Phillips, "is how does superconductivity emerge from the gravity theory of a Mott insulator?"
Provided by University of Illinois College of Engineering
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What are you?
Kant would say we cannot know the object for itself,but only the object for me.
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I conjecture that paragraph containing the above is truly, truly meaningless.
This isn't science. This is mathematical navel-gazing.
First prove that there is such a creature as a "charged black hole", a strictly theoretical entity (and good luck with that), then that we know anything at all about its real-world behavior (we don't) which could then be related to superconductors (a real-world phenomena).
As it is, the solution presented here is "two handfuls of magic pixie dust" to solve one physics problem.
I'm not a troll. But sometimes these articles make it hard not to sound like a PRO-SCIENCE troll...
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What the black hole has with it? In modern theories the black holes are very dense stars rather than singularities, their particles are heavily compressed and they're forming superfluid in similar way, like the electrons inside of superconductors.
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The process of transition of Mott insulator state into chaotic superconductive state can be modelled quite easily with computer simulation, at least conceptually. A substantially more difficult is to include the environmental parameters into such ad-hoced simulation to predict real numbers. A third level is to derive formal model for it, which enables to predict the temperature of superconductive transition from material constants of superconductor. The important thing is, these calculations aren't necessary for qualitative understanding of superconductor function.
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The point is IF superconductors can be described by thei method then it can be used to predict other (better?) superconductors.
So the theory is testable - something that should be high on the agenda of the people involved.
As always in science: Theory first. Then comes the test.
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Science requires theories, because science is about finding rules with which you can predict future behavior of as yet unrecorded phenomena. Everything else is just data acquisition.
No doubt, data acquisition is a valuable part of science - much like making theories - but only together they make up the scientific method.
Definition taken from wikipdeia, 'scientific method':
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I won't even pretend to understand more than scraps of this article, it's so abstruse: Uh, IIRC, a black hole will *eventually* neutralise itself via Hawking radiation. What bugs me is that an electron has 'unity' charge, but quarks carry 'fractional' charges...
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But since it postulates a fundamentally different mechanism some discrepancy should occur: and there is where you set up the test.
This research doesn't say that black holes are involved. it just uses the mathematical methods involved in describing them (string theory) on another subject. Nothing wrong with that. Mathematical _methods_ are independent of the physical subjects they are applied to. the article postulates that a gravity equivalent can be formulated to an electrodynamic problem (and vice versa). The research to verify (or falsify) this costs next to nothing.
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Kinda way off topic and also kinda philosophical, but for some reason I can't help but criticize the above comment. First, I'm not sure I would call a black hole an object in the traditional sense. Second, an electron is actually quite dense in terms of the total mass/energy contained in an electron compared to its size. Third, using the word 'heavy' is a bit odd.
Oh, and one more thing:
I think it's actually shooting out jets of white paint or chalk. :)
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How many billions of dollars would a room temperature superconductor be worth? Maybe a trillion? More?
Research is a risk/reward system. I would even agree that oversight can always be improved. Maybe even pegging more public money in investment portfolio style selection methods might be a step forward. But your negativity comes across as reaction to a past slight more than an objective argument.
I say flush it all down the LHC!!! Who knows? Maybe it will find your aether.
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Let's pretend you have one. It's a good one, but a year later I come up with a better one. How much is yours worth? :P
I agree with your post, I just like to play devil's advocate for the purpose of discussion sometimes.
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To your point though, yeah. That is why funding for bleeding edge research is usually government sponsored. Companies don't want to take that initial risk. They much prefer to focus their energies on technologies that can be secured for profit after the government does the dirty work.
Back to the superconductors, the potential benefits in power transmission alone make this worthy pursuit. Who cares if the comparison in this research is likely to an impossible mathematical artifact resulting from a broken limit within GR/string theories?
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http://www.superc...276K.htm
http://iopscience...18/3/319
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Sorry everyone else. Having a bad day.
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Some people are unable to learn.
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You really think that China would pass up the chance to use this technology to catapult itself past the western world?
I know I am asking a lot, but be reasonable. Some conspiracies are plausible and believed by people who are skeptical of the "official version". Some are believed only by nutjobs. Just because you keep repeating a conspiracy doesn't make you one of the former. We know you are reasonably intelligent. Your math skills and knowledge of science are well above the average person. Try to analyze your beliefs a little bit and reflect on your posting. Unless it is all just for a laugh, in which case, you are funny but it is getting tired.
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If one person happened on superconductivity, they most assuredly had assistants and associates working on the project. The larger a project, the larger the secret society would have to be. The larger the society of secret conspirators, the greater the possibility of a leak. Then of course there's always the fact that if it was discovered or leaked you'd need to bring those people into the fold, resulting in an even larger conspiracy, with more people, and bigger leaks, resulting in more people picking up the research and discovering HTSC, resulting in .........
This is why people like you make me laugh, Zephir.
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Usually the hypotheses are the result of attempting to explain experimental results and observations. If it is tested and confirmed to be reasonably accurate, we call it a theory. It is rare that an hypothesis come about strictly from a mathematical perspective. And then for that hypothesis to have no readily testable aspects to it?
That's no theory. I'm not even sure one could call it an hypothesis. Until it can be tested, it is a lot of mathematical doodling.
THAT is why there are so many physicists who express doubts.
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As an analogy, consider many masses connected to each other by springs and making them oscillate. The resulting motions are very complicated to describe because the behavior of any one mass depends on its neighbors -- the system is highly coupled. But, you can transform the problem to an equivalent uncoupled system (which need not exist in reality), which is very easy to solve because the solutions are independent of each other. Those solutions are mapped back to the original problem, and we learn something about coupled oscillation.