Musk unveils SpaceX rocket designed to get to Mars and back

Musk unveils SpaceX rocket designed to get to Mars and back
In this image made from video provided by SpaceX, Elon Musk speaks of SpaceX's newly designed aircraft at its launch facility near Brownsville, Texas, Saturday, Sept. 28, 2019. Musk unveiled Saturday the SpaceX spacecraft designed to carry a crew and cargo to the moon, Mars or anywhere else in the solar system and land back on Earth perpendicularly. (SpaceX via AP)

Elon Musk has unveiled a SpaceX spacecraft designed to carry a crew and cargo to the moon, Mars or anywhere else in the solar system and land back on Earth perpendicularly.

In a livestreamed speech from SpaceX's launch facility near the southern tip of Texas, Musk said Saturday that the 's Starship is expected to take off for the first time in about one or two months and reach 65,000 feet (19,800 meters) before landing back on Earth.

He says it's essential for the viability of space travel to be able to reuse spacecraft and that it's important to take steps to extend consciousness beyond our planet.

A crowd watched as Musk spoke from a stage in front of the large spacecraft, which has a reflective, metal exterior.

Musk says Saturday marked the 11th anniversary of a SpaceX rocket reaching orbit for the first time.

Musk unveils SpaceX rocket designed to get to Mars and back
In this image made from video provided by SpaceX, Elon Musk, center, speaks of SpaceX's newly designed aircraft at its launch facility near Brownsville, Texas, Saturday, Sept. 28, 2019. Musk unveiled Saturday the SpaceX spacecraft designed to carry a crew and cargo to the moon, Mars or anywhere else in the solar system and land back on Earth perpendicularly. (SpaceX via AP)


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Sep 29, 2019
Elon might land a man or two on the moon or Mars, before nano-manufacturing kicks in; but, I'm still expecting nano-manufacturing to happen before Mankind becomes fully established as a space faring civilization.

Sep 29, 2019
Elon might land a man or two on the moon or Mars, before nano-manufacturing kicks in; but, I'm still expecting nano-manufacturing to happen before Mankind becomes fully established as a space faring civilization.


combine your dystopia with AI and in the end, we're all grey ooze

Sep 29, 2019
I/we watched the presentation in the SpaceX website last nite. It must have been a bit cool there in Texas because Elon Musk looked a tad bit chilled with the wind blowing. Some in the crowd seemed a bit discomfited as it looked as though they had to stand to see Musk - no chairs.
All in all, I would say that he gave a good presentation, including tha q and a after the intermission. I am impressed with Elon Musk's Starship and his determination to go forward with it.

Sep 29, 2019
We know that the progress of humans to go out to interstellar space is being watched very carefully by others. Even being helped in certain ways. This is all very good - except for the fact that humans can't seem to pull together as a team that is called "the human race". Perhaps there will come a time when someone will be able to bring ALL humanity together for the benefit of everyone, and only THEN can a lot of progress be made - far more than is happening now.
But in the meantime, Elon Musk is doing great work and understands the value of his employees and how they fare in all this.
We all agree on the reusability of spacecraft.

Sep 29, 2019
sillyggheead believes, without a shred of reality,
that his stupornatural aliens
are here to assist humanity

after all, they told him at his latest seance,
that they had an comprehensive instruction book

titled "How To Serve Man"

so we get a choice in to
whom we are to be served
either to putin the morloch
or
to marvin the martian

"the only real conflict
between the shepherd
& the wolf?
is which one of them
will get to eat the lamb"

Sep 29, 2019
Elon might land a man or two on the moon or Mars,
At about 1:10:05 he mentions a crew of 100, and that with 1000 cubic meters of pressurized volume (similar to the ISS) inside the ship, each person actually has 10 cubic meters of personal space.

At 29:37 -- Raptor firing is awesome -- the booster can be outfitted with up to 37 of them. Light that beautiful silver candle, eeyowzaa

Sep 29, 2019
He says it's essential for the viability of space travel to be able to reuse spacecraft and that it's important to take steps to EXTEND CONSCIOUSNESS beyond our planet.

Well, let's hope he doesn't overextend their unconsciousness, before they die.

Sep 29, 2019
As I said, "We know that the progress of humans to go out to interstellar space is being watched very carefully by others". No need for science fiction, Twilight Zone episodes, or claims of superstition, since Anthropocentric beliefs have nothing, or very little to do with the reality of human existence. The small-minded such as rrwillsj are fortunately not involved in that progress, else such people would prefer to return humanity to the dark ages rather than consider and confront anything as progressive as 'benevolent observation".
Unfortunately, there are many like rrwillsj who are Luddites at heart and who are active 'Witch-Hunters'.

Sep 30, 2019
We know that the progress of humans to go out to interstellar space is being watched very carefully by others.

We don't know that. Only you know that. We also know why you know that. You don't. You have been told why. The truth just slips off of you. It can find no purchase. Apparently neither can realty.

Sep 30, 2019
I/we... We all agree on the reusability of spacecraft
Who's 'we' then pussytard? The gang in the dayroom? You still pretending to be one of the nurses?

You freak.

Sep 30, 2019
Well, Musk is still throwing kicks in the Ant's Lair and forcing many to try and do as much, if not more than him.
Except this time, the "space ambition" is more spread through the world. Indians? Chinese? Russians? Europeans? Who will be the closest to do what most people think as "impossible", if not "too costy to meter"?
The criticism is louder than ever before, but things will happen again. Maybe, at least this time, it'll be "slightly" more about benefits for the WHOLE human race and less about going further, staying longer and doing better with the biggest rocket....

Sep 30, 2019
a crew of 100, and that with 1000 cubic meters of pressurized volume (similar to the ISS) inside the ship, each person actually has 10 cubic meters of personal space.
By the common meaning of 'crew', we would be speaking of people who have actual duties during the journey. A personal living-space of 10 cubic meters is about enough room to swing a cat. Having divied up that 1000 into 100 cat-swinging spaces, there is nothing left for dining areas, rec-spaces, research areas, corridors, an exercise room, a few places to take a leak, a hydroponic growing module--to grow a leek, etc.

So, we're realistically looking a 50 max, more likely 30, crew members. Or else we're looking at 90 passengers hibernated and unconcious, until they reach Mars, and a skeleton crew. It also doesn't account for a safe-room, central to the assembly and shielded against emergency levels of radiation flux. And you have to get all those chilled bodies into that room on short notice.

Sep 30, 2019
so typically human
"we'll build the roof first
then put a house under that
then finish off with adding a foundation"

we still have no verified, confirmed evidence that Earth Life, including Humans can survive long-term in Space

successfully reproduce over multiple generations
& thrive across time in an environment with multiple handicaps to Earth-bred

the environment of Mars is a lot more similar to that of Luna than the Earth

these space projects,
so determined to
"plant the flag, first!"
are all about comicbook glory & celebrity status

a sober, conservative approach would be two-fold
first a modest program to establish a self-sustaining infrastructure of automated orbital factories
using resources collected by drone-trawlers

while that is developing,
we should make a serious effort to determine if life can be sustained off Earth
we would just have to decide
what level of deaths among young people,
we as a society would consider acceptable

Oct 01, 2019
we still have no verified, confirmed evidence that Earth Life, including Humans can survive long-term in Space


530 years ago there was no verified, confirmed evidence that there was a continent between the Canary Islands and Japan. Things change, new evidence accumulates, people learn how to do new things, cultures develop new technologies.

Oct 01, 2019
I watched the speech by Mr. Musk and, quite apart from my frustration with his presentation style (he is surely one of the world's worst public speakers!), I was struck by the overall feel of cheapness of the whole presentation. I had the distinct feeling that his company might be running out of money, and that this whole Starship enterprise (pun!) may be doomed to failure.

I sincerely hope that this will not prove to be the case, since Musk is a true visionary and it's my humble opinion that he and his company deserve to succeed.

Having said that, I'm a little concerned with some features of the latest Starship design iteration: in particular, I'm wondering how the gap between the moveable wings and the body can prevent hot plasma from penetrating the ship on re-entry and destroying it. Secondly, I'm wondering how the heat of re-entry can be effectively dissipated by the combination of thin heatshield tiles and the stainless body plates.

Any ideas or information on these?

Oct 01, 2019
don't know why people keep repeating that nonsense that many people believed that their Earth was flat

yes there are some official records espousing that belief
but writings that claimed the Earth was spherical had a tendency ti be burned
along with the writers

as for the Atlantic Ocean?
the fishermen of French-Brittany
were fishing the Newfoundland Banks for centuries

& telling horror stories of savage mermaids & ravenous sea serpents & giant kraken pulling ships down into the deeps!

in the taverns, to the gullible to get them to buy the drinks

cusco, you need to learn that a "good story" is not necessarily a "true story"

& my comment did cover the need to make an effort to gain information about possible human survival away from Earth

which will need the supporting infrastructure i mentioned

setting aside the cost of such research projects
the greatest cost will be paid in human lives to discover what is possible & what is fantasy

Oct 07, 2019
I watched the speech by Mr. Musk and, quite apart from my frustration with his presentation style (he is surely one of the world's worst public speakers!), I was struck by the overall feel of cheapness of the whole presentation. I had the distinct feeling that his company might be running out of money, and that this whole Starship enterprise (pun!) may be doomed to failure.

Having said that, I'm a little concerned with some features of the latest Starship design iteration: in particular, I'm wondering how the gap between the moveable wings and the body can prevent hot plasma from penetrating the ship on re-entry and destroying it. Secondly, I'm wondering how the heat of re-entry can be effectively dissipated by the combination of thin heatshield tiles and the stainless body plates.

Any ideas or information on these?


The two Starships that are being built will each have a Raptor engine that uses Methane and liquid Oxygen as fuel. The Starhopper test was successful.

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