The Amazon is on fire: Here are 5 things you need to know

The Amazon is on fire – here are 5 things you need to know
Huge fires are raging across multiple regions of the Amazon Basin. Credit: Guaira Maia/ISA

Record fires are raging in Brazil's Amazon rainforest, with more than 2,500 fires currently burning. They are collectively emitting huge amounts of carbon, with smoke plumes visible thousands of kilometers away.

Fires in Brazil increased by 85% in 2019, with more than half in the Amazon region, according to Brazil's space agency.

This sudden increase is likely down to land degradation: and farming reduces the availability of water, warms the soil and intensifies drought, combining to make fires more frequent and more fierce.

1. Why the Amazon is burning

The growing number of fires are the result of illegal forest clearing to create land for farming. Fires are set deliberately and spread easily in the dry season.

The desire for new land for has been the main driver of deforestation in the Brazilian Amazon since the 1970s.

Ironically, farmers may not need to clear new land to graze cattle. Research has found a significant number of currently degraded and unproductive pastures that could offer new opportunities for livestock.

New technical developments also offer the possibility of transforming extensive cattle ranches into more compact and productive farms – offering the same results while consuming less natural resources.

2. Why the world should care

The devastating loss of biodiversity does not just affect Brazil. The loss of Amazonian vegetation directly reduces rain across South America and other regions of the world.

The planet is losing an important carbon sink, and the fires are directly injecting carbon into the atmosphere. If we can't stop in the Amazon, and the associated fires, it raises real questions about our ability to reach the Paris Agreement to slow climate change.

The Brazilian government has set an ambitious target to stop illegal deforestation and restore 4.8 million hectares of degraded Amazonian land by 2030. If these goals are not carefully addressed now, it may not be possible to meaningfully mitigate climate change.

3. What role politics has played

Since 2014, the rate at which Brazil has lost Amazonian forest has expanded by 60%. This is the result of economic crises and the dismantling of Brazilian environmental regulation and ministerial authority since the election of President Jair Bolsonaro in 2018.

Bolsonaro's political program includes controversial programs that critics claim will threaten both human rights and the environment. One of his first acts as president was to pass ministerial reforms that greatly weakened the Ministry of the Environment

Regulations and programs for conservation and traditional communities' rights have been threatened by economic lobbying.

Over the last months, Brazil's government has announced the reduction and extinction of environmental agencies and commissions, including the body responsible for combating deforestation and fires.

4. How the world should react

Although Brazil's national and state governments are obviously on the front line of Amazon protection, international actors have a key role to play.

International debates and funding, alongside local interventions and responses, have reshaped the way land is used in the tropics. This means any government attempts to further dismantle climate and conservation policies in the Amazon may have significant diplomatic and economic consequences.

For example, trade between the European Union and South American trading blocs that include Brazil is increasingly infused with an environmental agenda. Any commercial barriers to Brazil's commodities will certainly attract attention: agribusiness is responsible for more than 20% of the country's GDP.

Brazil's continued inability to stop deforestation has also reduced international funding for conservation. Norway and Germany, by far the largest donors to the Amazon Fund, have suspended their financial support.

These and organizations are likely to exert considerable influence over Brazil to maintain existing commitments and agreements, including restoration targets.

5. There is a solution

Brazil has already developed a pioneering political framework to stop illegal deforestation in the Amazon. Deforestation peaked in 2004, but dramatically reduced following environmental governance, and supply change interventions aiming to end illegal deforestation.

Environmental laws were passed to develop a national program to protect the Amazon, with clearing rates in the Amazon falling by more than two-thirds between 2004 and 2011.

Moreover, private global agreements like the Amazon Beef and Soy Moratorium, where companies agree not to buy soy or cattle linked to illegal deforestation, have also significantly dropped clearing rates.

We have financial, diplomatic and political tools we know will work to stop the whole-sale clearing of the Amazon, and in turn halt these devastating fires. Now it is time to use them.


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Aug 23, 2019
So what. So? What? So, what?

Trees have been on fire before.

Aug 23, 2019
Come on, this site is about science, please check your facts.
1-This 85% number that you use is bogus, check yesterday's NASA report. Fires are within average.
2-By the Brazillian law, a land owner in the amazon region can clear 20% of his land.

Too much fuss about this subject already, want to make a difference, choose a better approach.

Aug 23, 2019
This is eco warfare. Shootist does not realize the implications. The magnitude.

"Around 2,254 square kilometers (870 square miles) of the Amazon were cleared in July, an increase of 278 percent from a year ago, according to the embattled National Institute for Space Research (INPE).

"That follows a 90 percent increase in June compared to the year prior—figures far-right President Jair Bolsonaro has called "lies" ..."

"In addition to harvesting timber, many trees in the Amazon are cleared to plant soy or make way for lucrative cattle pastures. Burning is commonly used to clear trees quickly."

The cause is not greed or corruption. Its overpopulation. The same thing that is flooding our borders with refugees is causing ecological devastation. And its accelerating geometrically.

Time for another proactive war.

Aug 23, 2019
Anonym685713
15 minutes ago
Come on, this site is about science, please check your facts
-Another mysterious anon shows up to spread disinformation. Lot of that going around lately.

Aug 23, 2019
Recent extended droughts also permit natural fires to be ignited by cloud-ground lightning (Brazil is globally among the top five regions globally for CG lightning strikes in count/km/period), which is overlooked in the article for reasons that are quite evident, as this article is intended to promote a due urgency. We can directly superimpose thunderstorm data over many of these regions lagged by several hours or days with respect to smoldering localized hotspots that can be active for months, maintained in tree stumps and buried biomass (associated with coal, methane, and peat deposits). Unmonitored excavation from illegal mining contributes a risk for such sources even without accidental ignition linked to human incursion into forests. The image used in the article may be related to natural ignition sources as such given their spatial distribution near a river and away from roads.

Aug 23, 2019
One thing that some comentator do not seems to get is that oxygen needs to be generated it is not a stable atmospheric component it exist in a cycle. The Amazon rainforest wheighs for 20% of the atmospheric oxygen in this global cycle. If CO2 is plant food, O2 is our life line. Can anybody argue against that ?

Aug 23, 2019
The rich want a McDonald's in a paved Amazon, because it may make them money.

Then they can buy their own Oxygen when the world runs out.

Aug 23, 2019
"Under increasing international pressure to contain a record number of fires in the Amazon, Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro said Friday he might send the military to battle the massive blazes. "That's the plan," he said."

Aug 23, 2019
Yes, it seems that some here read a similar article as I did (https://www.space...cation). Certainly the recent droughts (mentioned in the article) in the Amazon seem to have left it like a tinder box. If there cannot be a concerted effort to save the Amazon forest then there is little chance of saving forests elsewhere. 20 years ago where I live (tropic of Cancer) there was a lot of green and trees and finding shelter from 39+ deg C temperatures on a day out wasn't too hard. That isn't true anymore, the widening of roads, constructions of 'estates' etc. means that one is basking in record high (for my area) 42+.

Aug 23, 2019
If illegal forces are winning over well-chosen governments, who make laws with/without international support, who is more powerful?

It seems there are gaps that need to be filled up to stop illegal practices that impact the entire globe.

Aug 24, 2019
"Under increasing international pressure to contain a record number of fires in the Amazon, Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro said Friday he might send the military to battle the massive blazes. "That's the plan," he said."
Perhaps they will use napalm, you know to fight fire with fire.

Aug 24, 2019
Record fires are raging in Brazil's Amazon rainforest

The growing number of fires are the result of illegal forest clearing to create land for farming.

These statements appear to be contradicted by this one:

Deforestation peaked in 2004, but dramatically reduced following environmental governance

Anyone care to explain?

So deforestation is declining, but we have "record fires". Does that mean there are more fires, but less acreage is being burned? Please explain because the evidence presented is contradictory.

Aug 24, 2019
So what. So? What? So, what?

Trees have been on fire before.

Try and focus those 2 peas between the ears, i know by now they have been slapped silly in the asylum, but at least you can try. Trees = Oxygen To burn them is a NO NO

Aug 24, 2019
Record fires are raging in Brazil's Amazon rainforest

The growing number of fires are the result of illegal forest clearing to create land for farming.

These statements appear to be contradicted by this one:

Deforestation peaked in 2004, but dramatically reduced following environmental governance

Anyone care to explain?

So deforestation is declining, but we have "record fires". Does that mean there are more fires, but less acreage is being burned? Please explain because the evidence presented is contradictory.

Seems more like the one side of your brain is contradicting the other on a daily basis
Easy to explain to a kindergarden student:
It declined after 2004, but has picked up again, it is now 2019.
What an idiot lol


Aug 24, 2019
Alternatives to deforestation are also not the answer. One such method is choosing areas for tree re-planting (afforestation) and many proponents to this sometimes lack ecosystem understanding. Again, where I live, some replanting has been done but the re-plants were not the same species as those originally native to the area. The results will not necessarily be beneficial. Types of forest soil vary and can result in slow growth for re-plants or, at the other extreme, be invasive. Then there is the forest animal life which can be dependent on native flora, introduce new flora could mean attracting different animal/insect life which might also be detrimental. The other obvious point is that we will have to wait for re-plant maturity to find if it has been worthwhile (tCDr), meanwhile natural forests will continue to suffer.

Aug 24, 2019
Cutting a tree should be made equivalent to a homicide, and the criminal should be punished with the same severity.

Aug 24, 2019
The human race appears to be too stupid to live. It won't kill everything, but it's sure gonna make a big dent.

I am reminded of an old scifi story- might be Frederic Brown- in which someone designs a time machine that can retrieve an artifact from the future.

They get back a statue of a giant cockroach with one leg/arm uplifted to the sky with the legend "Adra ad astra" inscribed on its base.

Aug 24, 2019
Adra ad astra
DaSchneib> I am reminded of an old scifi story- might be Frederic Brown- in which someone designs a time machine that can retrieve an artifact from the future

Through adversity to the stars: the motto of the Royal Air Force

Aug 24, 2019
Actually "adra" isn't translated as "through difficulties." It's more like "onward to the stars," in colloquial English.

Aug 24, 2019
Actually "adra" isn't translated as "through difficulties." It's more like "onward to the stars," in colloquial English.

Thanks, Da Schneib

Aug 24, 2019
Germany has increased its CO2 emissions, burning more coal and natural gas from Russia, where god knows how much pollution is escaping into the atmosphere.
The US is still one of the biggest polluters. They frack the crap out of the land poisoning its own people. They have cleared so much forest for agriculture such that they are (was) one if not the biggest exporter of soybean to China.
So, when will there be backlash against them?

Aug 24, 2019
So, when will there be backlash against them?
Isn't it fascinating to watch the child like responses to articles talking about problems such as deforestation? Goracle has nothing to say about the actual issue - just a conspiracy theory - that someone is ignoring German and American problems - but have it in for Brazil. But I have read many articles talking about U.S. forrest fires this year. Also a lot of criticism of Germany - for shutting down their nukes - which lead to increase in coal use.

Top of the list for childish responses
So what. So? What? So, what?


Deniers are so pathetic.

Aug 24, 2019
Isn't it fascinating to watch the onion jackass bray at the heretics after it boasted about his 1200 mile, CO2 spewing jaunt, during which he emitted over a tenth of the US annual average, in JUST 2 DAYS.

Chicken Shits are so caring.

Aug 24, 2019
Wow - goracle - do you walk everywhere? I was talking about today's article - not bullshit that you want to dig up from decades ago - that has no relevance to an article on deforestation. You really are pathetic in terms of having nothing to say - and yet needing to keep squawking like a sick parrot. But if you want to get personal goracle - I am a vegan - and I grow quite a bit of my own food in the garden. What have you done for the planet this week? https://www.unila...experts/

Aug 24, 2019
The Amazon is bigger than the army

The army to assist the loggers on the ground
The army to assist the Airforce at the reservoirs filling up water bombing
The army on its own is pointless
The Amazon is to big
And you cannot land near the fires
The trees are too thick, it's a macheti job, it's a jungle..

ultimately
the only people
Capable of

creating a fire brake
are the loggers
who aren't allowed in

for logging
is infinitely better
than ashes on the ground

Aug 24, 2019
The Amazon is to big
And you cannot land near the fires
The trees are too thick, it's a macheti job, it's a jungle..
So was Vietnam retard. Armies are for hunting down armed arsonists. Retard.

Aug 24, 2019
How appropriate
The Amazon is to big
And you cannot land near the fires
The trees are too thick, it's a macheti job, it's a jungle..
GhostlyOtto> So was Vietnam retard. Armies are for hunting down armed arsonists. Retard.

some poor soul
has a large chip
on his shoulder

for in times
of peace and prosperity
armies duties are civilian

well that is
The British Army
predominate duty

Aug 24, 2019
Record fires are raging in Brazil's Amazon rainforest

The growing number of fires are the result of illegal forest clearing to create land for farming.

These statements appear to be contradicted by this one:

Deforestation peaked in 2004, but dramatically reduced following environmental governance

Anyone care to explain?

So deforestation is declining, but we have "record fires". Does that mean there are more fires, but less acreage is being burned? Please explain because the evidence presented is contradictory.

There is no contradiction. The first quote refers to *now*, i.e. the last few weeks or so, since the fires are *ongoing*. The second quote refers to the entire period from when deforestation data started to be collected up to 2004, which was the *historical* all-time peak. Later on the article mentions that deforestation was reduced by 2/3 between 2004 and 2011. The last decade it started rising again, and from 2018 it goes full steam ahead.

Aug 24, 2019
the amazon fire is fake news.

https://youtu.be/T6A9PL2zyxQ

the only record fires occur when burns are not allowed to burn themselves out.

Aug 25, 2019
Shootist says that the amazon fire is fake news. Except that it really isn't. If you listen to his youtube blogger - who is obviously not a scientists - so you can see where Shootist actually gets his world view from - you will find that mr blogger actually just re- quotes a New York Times article - that among other things says this -
Mr. Cochrane noted that while a large majority of the fires were on land that had already been cleared, many others were detected burning with particular intensity. He said these were likely deforestation fires, not just fires for clearing previously deforested land


Mr. blogger also says that deforestation is 'bad bad bad'- and that everyone should become a vegan - and stop eating soy - cuz the deforestation is 'bad bad bad.'

So I thought the New York Times - was the king of fake news Shootist (at least according to your 'chosen one.') Wow what a fricking moron....

Aug 25, 2019
As always shootist aka antigoracle monkey is shooting the potty miss wetting himself, astonishing how this clown comes to his delusional conclusions after watching the amazon burn down in real life. the walls of his self made cocoon has locked him in real good lol

Aug 25, 2019
@granville
This is part of what Schneib was talking about:

"The figure on top is standing up very straight and looking upwards. It's dressed only in a wide belt from which a pouch hangs on one side and a flat square box on the other. It looks intelligent and is obviously representing either aspiration or a religious theme, or maybe both. You can sense the dreams and ideals of the figure and the obvious sympathy and understanding of the artist with them. Lasker says he thinks the statue is an expression of religious feeling. Dettner and I both think it represents aspirations: Per adra ad astra or something of the sort. It's a majestic figure and it's easy to respond to it emphatically with a sort of "upward and onward" feeling. There is only one thing wrong. The figure is that of a beetle."

Aug 25, 2019
As always shootist aka antigoracle monkey is shooting the potty miss wetting himself, astonishing how this clown comes to his delusional conclusions after watching the amazon burn down in real life. the walls of his self made cocoon has locked him in real good lol
says HeloMenelo

Do you always go into the mens' restroom and watch a man using the urinal. Are you gay?
What does a man wetting himself while peeing have to do with the Amazon burning?
I see your friends gave you a +7 for talking about a man wetting himself while peeing. That is so Weird.

Aug 25, 2019
Not at all doing stuff that you do everyday, we are as different as night and day i promise ;) i and everyone else happen to see all the filthy stupidity you mention right here on physorg (along with the whole world seeing it) when you and your sockies dump one down the branch and it falls as a comment on this site everyday...

It's understandable that you and your sockies don't get it, our reality and the world is a weird place for you, he is wetting himself because he is incompetent to think straight... easy to understand yes

o...btw i'm straight aaaa so sorry for you yes lol.. rather try and hit on your own sockpuppets ;)

Aug 25, 2019
And you have no idea what i do every day so your gibes are meaningless. But you are revealing your idiocy by somehow imagining me using sockpuppies, for whatever reason.
Since I have no need to talk filth in my comments, perhaps you are thinking of yourself and those such as Schneib and Castro, who do it on a regular basis as necessary.

As to your sexual orientation, nobody really gives a fig, although your talking trash regarding another man's wetting himself as if you have seen him do it up close and personal, makes you seem gay. You might want to get with Kl31415, the self-admitted homosexual to see if you have such tendencies as he. No one will hold it against you, of course. But just be honest about it. That's all.

Aug 25, 2019
Beef should be taxed heavily. Beef farmers destroy forests. Sustainable farming like poultry in the understory of forests are more productive than beef.
In the future we can get giant molluscs that produce a range of the finest meats hopefully! 5 pound G.M. slugs that taste like mutton. And safe seafood that's not full of heavy metal.
Bolsonaro has cut fines on invading wildlife reseves and failed to enforce them.

Aug 25, 2019
Here is the data : https://www.globa...ast.html

Site is updated daily and shows historical context of this year's Amazon fires, broken down by region. Scroll down to the regional breakdowns. A very cursory look is all you need to see that this year's fires are not unprecedented. In the Amazonas region, 2005 was the peak year for fires in this satellite data set and this year's burn is tracking 2005. Been there, done that.

While you're on the site, take a look at the "Analysis Tools" tab, which shows the average burned area globally each year going back to 1997. Compare South America to sub-Sahara Africa: there is your context.

But, as always, be afraid! Be very afraid!

Aug 25, 2019
Anonym - did you miss this quote on the first page of your link?
Cumulative active fire detections through 8/22/2019 from MODIS and VIIRS confirm that 2019 is the highest fire year since 2012 (the start of the VIIRS record) across the seven states that comprise the Brazilian Amazon. In addition, fires in 2019 are more intense than previous years, measured in terms of fire radiative power, consistent with the observed increase in deforestation


Being concerned seems to me to be a wise choice.

Aug 25, 2019
Mr. Cochrane noted that while a large majority of the fires were on land that had already been cleared, many others were detected burning with particular intensity. He said these were likely deforestation fires, not just fires for clearing previously deforested land
So not only are they burning forests, they're preventing regrowth. I guess shootist thinks that if you already burned it then you've won.

Aug 25, 2019
The human race appears to be too stupid to live. It won't kill everything, but it's sure gonna make a big dent.


Things are better than ever before in human history.

You know you're a loser when that fact gets you upset.

Aug 25, 2019
World on fire: Five times more wildfires are burning in southern Africa than in Brazil

ttps://www.sott.net/article/419175-World-on-fire-Five-times-more-wildfires-are-burning-in-southern-Africa-than-in-Brazil

Aug 25, 2019
Cutting a tree should be made equivalent to a homicide, and the criminal should be punished with the same severity.
guptm

That would put an end to sustainable forestry and you would have no timber for building or furniture nor paper to write on nor toilet roll. Good?

P.S.
I am generally against destroying forests but we need to avoid making sweeping simplistic generalizations when making policies to protect them but rather take full account of the full complexity of reality.

Aug 25, 2019
Solon - your blog site is not science. Here is one rubbish quote from your blog site
all in service of the overall myth that climate change is driven by human activities.... it's not.


Signs of the times also states
parts of the world are 'on fire' as part of increasing weather and other planetary extremes...
Maybe you could help us understand these claims. What dose SOTT claim is causing the increasing weather and planetary extremes? What do you think is driving climate change?

Aug 25, 2019
"What do you think is driving climate change?"

All the hot air from the climate crisis buffoons?

Aug 25, 2019
All the hot air from the climate crisis buffoons?
Thanks Solon - very impressive grounding you have in science there. The noise to signal ratio seems to be going through the roof these days - maybe a rebellion - folks are refusing to take their meds.

Aug 25, 2019
The planet is losing an important carbon sink - the fires are injecting carbon into the atmosphere

If we can't
stop deforestation
in the Amazon

it raises real questions
about our ability to reach
the Paris Agreement to slow climate change

Aah! This Paris Agreement

depends on
this rain forest
this Brazilian forest

these liver lilied frogs
the planet is in danger of catastrophic collapse
these frogs are certainly an endangered species

foreth if these frogs
do not pull their finger out
this paris agreement is as dead as Do-do

and that
by the way includes
these Amazon frogs

clown tree frog in the Amazon
https://news.mong...to-2.jpg

Aug 25, 2019
Two new Clown Tree Frogs discovered in the Amazon

Clown frogs are widespread throughout the Amazon region
get their name from their unique, bright coloration
these two newly discovered clown frogs
were previously considered to belong to other species
but researchers were able to show
that they are their own distinct species
after analyzing their DNA and the calls they make

https://news.mong...-amazon/

Aug 25, 2019
I hope that the tree frogs will head for the nearest river, along with all the wildlife who are in danger of dying.
Since the rainforests are burning already, the next best thing to do is to bring in young replacement tree saplings and plant them as soon as the ground is cooled enough. If the fires burned all the underbrush, then that will make it easier to dig the soil in rows to plant the saplings.
Whether or not the fires were set by whacko environmentalists to make a point, the deed is done, and the only thing to do now is to build for the future.
If Bolsonaro balks at such a plan, he could be placed under house arrest.

Aug 25, 2019
Or, better still

SEU> Since the rainforests are burning already, the next best thing to do is to bring in young replacement tree saplings and plant them as soon as the ground is cooled enough

as we
can not put these
fires out

let nature
work its magic as these trees
allways grow back after fire

that is SEU
if no no one intervenes
in nature at work

Aug 25, 2019
Things are better than ever before in human history
"Europe on the whole experienced unparalleled development in the years leading up to the First World War. And this development manifested itself in many different guises: economic progress, political reform, a certain decline in barbaric and obscurantist spirituality. New technology began to enter the ordinary lives of millions; the values of the Enlightenment, which asserted individual liberty, economic freedom and free inquiry in matters Europe on the whole experienced unparalleled development in the years leading up to the First World War. And this development manifested itself in many different guises: economic progress, and moral, began to achieve a new prominence. Among Europe's elites, certainly, but also among the people, there was a strong and almost unprecedented sense of hope. Nothing exemplifies this newfound optimism more than the Paris Universal Exposition..."
Cont>

Aug 25, 2019
"15 Whatever is has already been,
and what will be has been before;
and god [or somebody] will call the past to account." Ecc3

-No? How about this one

"Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall." Prov16:18

-Or maybe this?

"36 "But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only [or somebody, like the rothschilds did]. 37 For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man [AI?]. 38 For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah [musk] entered the ark [BFR], 39 and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away..." matt24

Aug 25, 2019
"were unaware until the flood came and swept them all [all the fat, stupid, lazy people of the earth that is] away..." matt24

-Hey SEU, how long can you tread water?
I hope that the tree frogs will head for the nearest river
-Yeah, and tree frogs can't swim you fucking vandal.

"Morbid Obesity in Disasters
It is a frightening reality for some people to be caught up in the midst of a disaster, alone and vulnerable due to their relative size, shape or weight."

-Something to keep in mind, eh?

Aug 26, 2019
Tree frogs are able to swim, you dimwit Nazi fat pig hater of humanity.

Aug 26, 2019
As usual, Otto the stupid doesn't know what it is talking about. Tree frogs can swim, dummy.
TREE FROGS ARE AMPHIBIANS, you arsewipe

https://www.upi.c...3668956/

Aug 26, 2019
At the risk of actually engaging with freaks, no, these clown frogs don't swim. But maybe you were thinking of these?
https://youtu.be/4Hd-Uilf104

Or this?
https://youtu.be/c31JT-9i-eI

-I can understand your confusion.

Aug 26, 2019
ALL FROGS HAVE THE ABILITY TO SWIM, YOU IDIOT. Amphibians mean they can live on land and jump into trees and branches or live close to the water and IN the water.
Do try to understand Evolution better so that you don't shoot off your big mouth and make an arsehole of yourself - as usual.


Aug 27, 2019
Surveillance_Egg_Unit

Regardless of whether all frogs can swim, many adult tree frogs are poor swimmers and can easily drown if they fall into deep water. This is hardly surprising given they spent millions of years evolving so that their adult forms are always out of water and surviving up in the trees where they don't need to swim and also given their adult forms have lungs, no gills. Obviously, their young are still usually good swimmers. But without the trees and/or if they all ended up in deep water because of a flood, they would still die. Cutting down the forests and trees would make most if not all tree frog species extinct.

Aug 27, 2019
@humy
Frogs breathe through their skin as well as their lungs. Tree frogs of all types live in trees because that is where the insects are most plentiful. The frogs hop and climb to be close enough to catch the insects with their tongues. Frogs are very good swimmers but they like to sit on such as lily pads and tree branches. Amphibians are happy in both water and land.

"The skin of a frog is permeable to oxygen and carbon dioxide, as well as to water. There are blood vessels near the surface of the skin and when a frog is underwater, oxygen diffuses directly into the blood. When not submerged, a frog breathes by a process known as buccal pumping. Its lungs are similar to those of humans, but the chest muscles are not involved in respiration, and no ribs or diaphragm exist to help move air in and out. Instead, it puffs out its throat and draws air in through the nostrils, which in many species can then be closed by valves. When the floor of the mouth is compressed, air is forced..

Aug 27, 2019
@humy
Surveillance_Egg_Unit

https://www.burke...ut-frogs
"...
frogs have lungs like we do and if their lungs fill with water, they can drown just like us. Frogs can also breathe through their skin. They need to keep their skin moist to be able to breathe through their skin, so if their skin dries out they are not able to absorb oxygen. They use their skin to absorb oxygen when underwater, but if there is not enough oxygen in the water, they will drown.
..."

So tree frogs can drown (as well as burn if you burn the trees they are on)

Aug 27, 2019
Surveillance_Egg_Unit

Regardless of whether all frogs can swim, many adult tree frogs are poor swimmers and can easily drown if they fall into deep water. This is hardly surprising given they spent millions of years evolving so that their adult forms are always out of water and surviving up in the trees where they don't need to swim and also given their adult forms have lungs, no gills. Obviously, their young are still usually good swimmers. But without the trees and/or if they all ended up in deep water because of a flood, they would still die. Cutting down the forests and trees would make most if not all tree frog species extinct.
But dear pussytard/SEU would give the little froggies the option to drown or be parboiled rather than burn to death.

How uncommonly thoughtful for a brainless idiot.

I gave you a thumbs down because youre actually trying to interact seriously with that freak.

Aug 27, 2019
@humy
Surveillance_Egg_Unit

https://www.burke...ut-frogs
"...
frogs have lungs like we do and if their lungs fill with water, they can drown just like us. Frogs can also breathe through their skin. They need to keep their skin moist to be able to breathe through their skin, so if their skin dries out they are not able to absorb oxygen. They use their skin to absorb oxygen when underwater, but if there is not enough oxygen in the water, they will drown.
..."

So tree frogs can drown
says humy

...which is why all frogs close their mouth to keep the water out when they are underwater just like YOU do. Their skin absorbs Oxygen and removes CO2. They can't drown while their mouth is closed underwater.
And the lungs of frogs are poorly developed.

Pay no mind to Otto the fat Nazi whose family was allowed to emigrate to the US after Nazi Germany was defeated. He's a looneytick.

Aug 28, 2019
which is why all frogs close their mouth to keep the water out when they are underwater just like YOU do. Their skin absorbs Oxygen and removes CO2. They can't drown while their mouth is closed underwater.

"Its lungs are similar to those of humans, but the chest muscles are not involved in respiration, and no ribs or diaphragm exist to help move air in and out. Instead, it puffs out its throat and draws air in through the nostrils, which in many species can then be closed by valves. When the floor of the mouth is compressed, air is forced into the lungs."

-I can understand how a mouth breather such as yourself could forget about the nose.

You know some people are so SICK that they will pretend to be this stupid just to get a rise out of people.

Is that you pussytard? Or are you just_plain_stupid?

Aug 28, 2019
Latest: Bolsonaro rejects US$22 million from G-7 to fight fires.

He's holding the Amazon hostage for political gain and petulance. Nothing else to be said here.

Remind you of anyone? Just askin'.

Aug 29, 2019
Latest: Bolsonaro rejects US$22 million from G-7 to fight fires.

He's holding the Amazon hostage for political gain and petulance. Nothing else to be said here.

Remind you of anyone? Just askin'.
says Schneib

Yes. Reminds me of Otto the fat Nazi liar who can't help being stupid. Just like Bolsonaro. Two peas in a pod.

Aug 29, 2019
So just explain why you didn't think frogs breathed through their noses pussytard. Can you do that or no? Do you think that frogs pant like little slimy green doggies?

Sep 14, 2019
So deforestation is declining, but we have "record fires". Does that mean there are more fires, but less acreage is being burned? .....the evidence presented is contradictory.

There is no contradiction. The first quote refers to *now*, i.e. the last few weeks or so, since the fires are *ongoing*. The second quote refers to the entire period from when deforestation data started to be collected up to 2004, which was the *historical* all-time peak. Later ....deforestation was reduced by 2/3 between 2004 and 2011. ..... and from 2018 it goes full steam ahead.

Actually, unless all the deforestation in 2004 weren't by fire, then askdad is correct. And based on the Alarmist's ability for exaggeration, this sad piece of propaganda, is but lies.
For you see, by any unit that they may use to measure deforestation, fact is the peak of 2004 hasn't been surpassed, and that means, the method by which it was accomplished, also hasn't. So, if that method was fire, then, lie much?

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