Scientists deepen understanding of magnetic fields surrounding Earth and other planets

Scientists deepen understanding of magnetic fields surrounding Earth and other planets
PPPL physicist Eun-Hwa Kim. Credit: Elle Starkman / PPPL Office of Communications

Vast rings of electrically charged particles encircle the Earth and other planets. Now, a team of scientists has completed research into waves that travel through this magnetic, electrically charged environment, known as the magnetosphere, deepening understanding of the region and its interaction with our own planet, and opening up new ways to study other planets across the galaxy.

The scientists, led by Eun-Hwa Kim, physicist at the U.S. Department of Energy's (DOE) Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory (PPPL), examined a type of wave that travels through the . These waves, called electromagnetic ion cyclotron (EMIC) waves, reveal the temperature and the density of the plasma particles within the magnetosphere, among other qualities.

"Waves are a kind of signal from the plasma," said Kim, lead author of a paper that reported the findings in JGR Space Physics. "Therefore, the EMIC waves can be used as diagnostic tools to reveal some of the plasma's characteristics."

Kim and researchers from Andrews University in Michigan and Kyung Hee University in South Korea focused their research on mode conversion, the way in which some EMIC waves form. During this process, other waves that compress along the direction they travel from outer space collide with Earth's magnetosphere and trigger the formation of EMIC waves, which then zoom off at a particular angle and polarization—the direction in which all of the are vibrating.

Using PPPL computers, the scientists performed simulations showing that these mode-converted EMIC waves can propagate through the magnetosphere along at a normal angle that is less than 90 degrees, in relation to the border of the region with space. Knowing such characteristics enables physicists to identify EMIC waves and gather information about the magnetosphere with limited initial information.

A better understanding of the magnetosphere could provide detailed information about how Earth and other planets interact with their space environment. For instance, the waves could allow scientists to determine the density of elements like helium and oxygen in the magnetosphere, as well as learn more about the flow of charged particles from the sun that produces the .

Moreover, engineers employ waves similar to EMIC waves to aid the heating of plasma in doughnut-shaped magnetic fusion devices known as tokamaks. So, studying the behavior of the waves in the magnetosphere could deepen insight into the creation of fusion energy, which takes place when plasma particles collide to form heavier particles. Scientists around the world seek to replicate fusion on Earth for a virtually inexhaustible supply of power to generate electricity.

Knowledge of EMIC waves could thus provide wide-ranging benefits. "We are really eager to understand the magnetosphere and how it mediates the effect that space weather has on our planet," said Kim. "Being able to use EMIC as diagnostics would be very helpful."


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More information: Eun‐Hwa Kim et al, Electron Inertial Effects on Linearly Polarized Electromagnetic Ion Cyclotron Waves at Earth's Magnetosphere, Journal of Geophysical Research: Space Physics (2019). DOI: 10.1029/2019JA026532
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Jul 12, 2019
The spin of the neutron core of our planet is what causes the gravity curves that we call the magnetosphere.
ALL particles including photons have a light and a heavy side, which is the polarity conforming to the local gravity field.
Every neutron particle inside the core has a zero weight gravity skin going all the way up to the Earths' zero weight gravity skin level.

Jul 12, 2019
a team of scientists has completed research into waves that travel through this magnetic, electrically charged environment, known as the magnetosphere, deepening understanding of the region and its interaction with our own planet

Electrically charged? But the magnetosphere is a plasma, and aren't plasmas quasi-neutral? How could this be jonesdumb? This author must be some kind of woomeister.

Jul 12, 2019
ahh idjyit
obviously you need assistance to realize the difference between magnetism & gravity

fortuitously for you?
i am a humanitarian & willing to share with you the mysterious rites of how to evaluate the difference between magnetism & gravity

& i'm not even going to charge you as I reveal the Secrets of the Ages
it will only cost you what you pay on Amazon for a paired set of magnets, plus tax & shipping

for this scandalous reveal of vital world-shaking scientific principles?
is too take your shoes off
then walk outside to your driveway
bring the box of magnets of course
put the box down

now, look around
find a couple of rocks of about the sane size/weight
place those next to the box

take out the magnets & fiddle with them until they trick together
holding both of the magnets out
turn then so one is on top & one below
let go of the below & just hold the top magnet,
did the below fall?

- cont'd -

Jul 12, 2019
You're weird. The Earth has no "neutron core". LOL

Jul 12, 2019
@CD85
I see that your biggest fan hasn't showed up yet. I'll come back later.
EM ion cyclotron.

Jul 12, 2019
- cont'd -

NO?
obvious proof that magnetism is stronger than gravity
maybe there is no such thing as gravity?

mow you know that magnets stick together?
did you know if you pull them apart, go ahead
now flip one over & try to stick them together

yeah! doesn't work now?
mysterious , huh?
mow these are repelling...

so, lets prove there is no such a thing as gravity
put the magnets down
pickup the rocks

heavy? good, makes this demonstration more memorable
hold out a rock in each hand & clunk them together
these rocks did not stick or repel?
to prove that. holding them out over your feet as you did the magnets, let one rock go

oohhh, too bad the pain made you drop the other rock on your other foot!

so what did you learn from all this?
yes! that is the correct answer...
"throw rocks at the wooloons trying to sell you electrofooey, plasmaspazz, aethernut yecc cultists trying to swindle you into paying them for an odyllic detector"

Jul 12, 2019
BAN PLUTONIUM!

Jul 12, 2019
You're weird. The Earth has no "neutron core". LOL
.........but CV jonesy or el schneibo should be along shortly to explain the infinitely degenerate neutron. Earth will be a neutron star by the time these three are done explaining how "half a neutron" can build stars.

Jul 13, 2019
You're weird. The Earth has no "neutron core". LOL
.........but CV jonesy or el schneibo should be along shortly to explain the infinitely degenerate neutron. Earth will be a neutron star by the time these three are done explaining how "half a neutron" can build stars.
says Benni

I'm not too sure that Castrovagina will show up in this phorum. But who knows?
I believe that jonesy is still smarting from being put down and getting his comeuppance in this one:

https://phys.org/...ora.html

jonesy had become "sorrowful jones" at having been trounced by a team of international Plasma Physicists. And CD85 was in his glory. It was jolly good. :)

yep
Jul 13, 2019
Extra ironic considering Velikovsky proposed these fields against consensus science at the time. Castrovi Jones dumb has left the building but his inept puppy Willis is here to play stupid and miss the point. Classic.

Jul 13, 2019

jonesy had become "sorrowful jones" at having been trounced by a team of international Plasma Physicists. And CD85 was in his glory. It was jolly good. :)


Errr, where did this happen, dumbo? Quit with the lying, you freak.

Jul 13, 2019
a team of scientists has completed research into waves that travel through this magnetic, electrically charged environment, known as the magnetosphere, deepening understanding of the region and its interaction with our own planet

Electrically charged? But the magnetosphere is a plasma, and aren't plasmas quasi-neutral? How could this be jonesdumb? This author must be some kind of woomeister.


It is a press release, you moron! Read the paper. Electrically charged just means plasma, thicko. An ion is positively charged. An electron is negatively charged. Did you not do high school physics? Quasi-neutrality can and does break down in certain circumstances. As Falthammar tells us, these are the most interesting areas, which include sites of magnetic reconnection. You need to go learn some plasma physics, woo boy, before commenting on it again.

Jul 13, 2019
Extra ironic considering Velikovsky proposed these fields against consensus science at the time. Castrovi Jones dumb has left the building but his inept puppy Willis is here to play stupid and miss the point. Classic.


Lol!!!!! Velikovsky!!!!! Dear me. Is this the same moron who claimed Venus came shooting out of Jupiter? Hahahaha. Go learn some science, you pathetic wretch.
Velikovsky was a moron. Didn't have clue one about any sort of physics. Anybody who follows his mythology-based woo is, therefore, also a scientifically illiterate moron.

Jul 13, 2019
It is a press release...Electrically charged just means plasma...

You truly are a despicable POS!
A press release written by a science writer from PPPL.
You have had aneurysms and nearly broke your waving arms insisting plasmas are not electrically charged.


Jul 13, 2019
Velikovsky!!!!!

Yep, the guy who correctly predicted Jupiter's magnetic field, radio emissions, and Venus' surface temperatures.

Jul 13, 2019
The spin of the neutron core of our planet is what causes the gravity curves that we call the magnetosphere.
idjyit

No it doesn't because our planet doesn't have a "neutron core" because our planet isn't a neutron star. If Earth had a "neutron core", like the same stuff a neutron star is made of, Earth wouldn't survive as a planet for more than a few moments; either collapsing in on itself or exploding or both, not sure which.

Jul 13, 2019
The more vague the article the more vociferous the comments.
Energetic particles striking a magnetic field rebound at a consistent angle.
Well, duh!

And from that we get name calling and ignorance. You angry guys just need an excuse, no need for science at all.

Jul 13, 2019
It is a press release...Electrically charged just means plasma...

You truly are a despicable POS!
A press release written by a science writer from PPPL.
You have had aneurysms and nearly broke your waving arms insisting plasmas are not electrically charged.



You are lying again, you clown. Of course they are electrically charged. Ions are +, electrons are - ! Want me to draw a picture? However, the total plasma is quasi-neutral outside of the Debye length. This is due to + - + - + - ........ = 0, remember? And when anything causes an imbalance in that neutrality, the plasma self-neutralises due to Debye shielding. Go read the paper - you will find nothing about the magnetosphere being out of balance with regard to quasi-neutrality. Parts of it can be, under certain circumstances. There aren't them. Read up on magnetic reconnection.

TBH, it is a highly technical paper, and you wouldn't understand it, even if it was freely available.

Jul 13, 2019
Velikovsky!!!!!

Yep, the guy who correctly predicted Jupiter's magnetic field, radio emissions, and Venus' surface temperatures.


And was a moron when it came to physics. What were his mechanisms, hmmm? Do they obey the laws of physics? Venus shooting out of Jupiter, and doing handbrake turns around the solar system, certainly doesn't!

Jul 13, 2019
why castro, you should be use to this sort of nonsense by now!

whether
velikovsky or blavatsky
kelley or ponzi
himmler or rand
denialists or antivaxxers

their cult followers of wethers
are shoveling the same steer shit

like cant's cant fraudulently misquoting mountebank ignorance
rewritten, on the fly by a blowfly

to fraudulently reanimate the obsolete, fatuously anti-science quackery with plagiarized newer scientific findings

zombies & vampires, who lack the courtesy to stay dead & buried!

Jul 13, 2019
From the abstract they seem to have explained some heretofore unexplained observations. So not just a theoretical exercise.

The more vague the article the more vociferous the comments.


I dunno about that, but the more trolls flock as they can assert more irrelevant material. I personally collected yet another inane troll in my block filter. This thread was mostly blocked trolls, and our comments lamenting their activities, but nothing on the science in the article.

Jul 13, 2019
This thread was mostly blocked trolls, and our comments lamenting their activities, but nothing on the science in the article.

You're right, the discussion should be regarding these electric waves (currents) which are induced by the electric waves from the Sun and how they impart EM energy to the magnetosphere. This discussion will fit nicely in the EU paradigm.

Jul 13, 2019

jonesy had become "sorrowful jones" at having been trounced by a team of international Plasma Physicists. And CD85 was in his glory. It was jolly good. :)


Errr, where did this happen, dumbo? Quit with the lying, you freak.
says Castrovagina aka jonesy

You were properly trounced in that other phorum (link provided in my previous comment) but you are too thick to admit it. You should argue with the scientists, the authors of this article and the other, call them liars and tell them that they are wrong.

Jul 13, 2019


You were properly trounced in that other phorum (link provided in my previous comment) but you are too thick to admit it. You should argue with the scientists, the authors of this article and the other, call them liars and tell them that they are wrong.


Wrong dumbo. Where did that happen? Where was I wrong, dickhead? It didn't happen you loon.

Jul 13, 2019
S0 far, Torbjorn has regaled us as to his Pride in blocking "trolls", which leads me to believe that he must have missed all that I and a few others have said in regard to the nonexistence of time, as in Space-time. Torbjorn is also Thick, following in the footsteps of Castrovagina aka jonesdumb.
Perhaps it is traditional in Sweden to be thick.

I noticed that in the one, and so far, only comment that Torbjorn has made in this phorum, there is nothing of a scientific nature in his comment, although lamenting that there are trolls here who don't do science.
Wondering if Torbjorn has rrwillsj blocked also. Probably not since Torbjorn approves of some trolls but not others who happen to disagree with him. He doesn't suffer mere scholars and interested observers like myself.

Jul 13, 2019
This thread was mostly blocked trolls, and our comments lamenting their activities, but nothing on the science in the article.

You're right, the discussion should be regarding these electric waves (currents) which are induced by the electric waves from the Sun and how they impart EM energy to the magnetosphere. This discussion will fit nicely in the EU paradigm.


Not currents. Stop making stuff up, you clown. Nobody is claiming that ion cyclotron waves are currents! Lol. Go back to school, dummy.

Jul 13, 2019
He doesn't suffer mere scholars and interested observers like myself.


You are not a scholar, and are too thick to understand anything through observation, lizard boy.

Jul 13, 2019


You were properly trounced in that other phorum (link provided in my previous comment) but you are too thick to admit it. You should argue with the scientists, the authors of this article and the other, call them liars and tell them that they are wrong.

Wrong dumbo. Where did that happen? Where was I wrong, dickhead? It didn't happen you loon.
says Castrovagina

It happened in the "Alternating Currents" phorum (the link is in my above comment).
You are known for denying that electric currents occur in the Cosmos; you are entirely against the concept of Plasmoids in the Universe, in spite of articles having been written on the topic.

"Electric Currents in Plasma everywhere in the Cosmos. Definitive evidence that Gravity is not responsible for Motion and Momentum, except in the attraction of Matter to other Matter."

You have been of the erroneous opinion that it is Gravity alone that moves Mass. It isn't and there are other Forces such as electric currents

Jul 13, 2019
He doesn't suffer mere scholars and interested observers like myself.


You are not a scholar, and are too thick to understand anything through observation, lizard boy.
says the thick-headed Castrovagina

LOL What would YOU know? YOUR mind knows only what you have read in books and papers available in Arxiv and other websites that sells publicised journals. You also haven't made known your opinion wrt my theory that time does not exist, although I have talked about it many times in many phorums. Are you afraid to take on the possibility that I am correct?

In any case, it is now known that magnetic fields, plasma, electric currents, EM are responsible for Motion and Momentum in the Universe from the quantum levels to the macro.
There is no need for Dark Matter or Dark Energy.

Jul 13, 2019
He doesn't suffer mere scholars and interested observers like myself.


You are not a scholar, and are too thick to understand anything through observation, lizard boy.
says the thick-headed Castrovagina

LOL What would YOU know? YOUR mind knows only what you have read in books and papers available in Arxiv and other websites that sells publicised journals. You also haven't made known your opinion wrt my theory that time does not exist, although I have talked about it many times in many phorums. Are you afraid to take on the possibility that I am correct?

In any case, it is now known that magnetic fields, plasma, electric currents, EM are responsible for Motion and Momentum in the Universe from the quantum levels to the macro.
There is no need for Dark Matter or Dark Energy.


Sod off you clown. You can't even spell forum correctly! And they are threads, not forums, you illiterate loon.

Jul 13, 2019
Of course I'm a Scholar as well as an interested observer, and my goal is to learn the truth about science. That is my second reason for having an account with phys.org. However, my primary reason is my mission of keeping watch on Schneib's evil Master, both on the internet and offline. It is a task in which I take great pleasure. Other than that, you have no need to know.

I happen to like spelling it "phorum" to match "physorg". If your have any objections, take it up with administrators.

Jul 13, 2019
Of course I'm a Scholar as well as an interested observer, and my goal is to learn the truth about science. That is my second reason for having an account with phys.org. However, my primary reason is my mission of keeping watch on Schneib's evil Master, both on the internet and offline. It is a task in which I take great pleasure. Other than that, you have no need to know.

I happen to like spelling it "phorum" to match "physorg". If your have any objections, take it up with administrators.


Sigh. Dumb as a bag of spanners!

Jul 13, 2019
your = you
And apt and accurate description of yourself, jonesy.
Your bag of spanners must be your trademark, yes? Perhaps you are a Plumber by trade?

Jul 13, 2019
Perhaps you are a Plumber by trade?


If I was, that would be something else I know far more about than you.

Jul 13, 2019
Perhaps you are a Plumber by trade?


If I was, that would be something else I know far more about than you.
.....I built the almost 5k sq ft house I live in. I installed everything that is inside it, all the plumbing, electrical, cabinetry, EVERYTHING but the sheetmetal ductwork & the poured foundation walls? I have two other buildings on my property site that my hands put up for equipment storage. Then of course there is all the concrete work in the driveways & the trees that needed to be taken down........you still with me jonesy?

Jul 13, 2019
This discussion will fit nicely in the EU paradigm.

If electricity was as ubiquitous and attributable for shaping galaxies and their solar systems as you profess, why bother trying to do fusion just to generate it? It's already like a decades long Manhattan Project and the strongest electromagnetic fields they can make still aren't quite able to manage the release of energy from the conversion of just a tiny amount of _mass_.
Scientists around the world seek to replicate fusion on Earth for a virtually inexhaustible supply of power to generate electricity.

Jul 13, 2019
Perhaps you are a Plumber by trade?


If I was, that would be something else I know far more about than you.
.....I built the almost 5k sq ft house I live in. I installed everything that is inside it, all the plumbing, electrical, cabinetry, EVERYTHING but the sheetmetal ductwork & the poured foundation walls? I have two other buildings on my property site that my hands put up for equipment storage. Then of course there is all the concrete work in the driveways & the trees that needed to be taken down........you still with me jonesy?


Errr, and the relevance of that is...................? You still know Jack about physics. That's never going to change!

Jul 13, 2019
Perhaps you are a Plumber by trade?


If I was, that would be something else I know far more about than you.
.....I built the almost 5k sq ft house I live in. I installed everything that is inside it, all the plumbing, electrical, cabinetry, EVERYTHING but the sheetmetal ductwork & the poured foundation walls? I have two other buildings on my property site that my hands put up for equipment storage. Then of course there is all the concrete work in the driveways & the trees that needed to be taken down........you still with me jonesy?
says Benni

jonesy has already admitted long ago that he is no scientist; just likes to dabble in it by reading all the books, journals, papers, magazines, etc dealing with old worn-out science that agrees with everything he had learnt already. jonesy would have to be led, kicking and screaming, before he accepts any new science. Notice how he makes a point to say that "Birkeland currents had been known of since......".

Jul 13, 2019
Oh I'm sorry. jonesy said that in the other phorum about 'Alternating currents in Jupiter's magnetosphere, which is caused by Jupiter's moon Io emitting sulfur dioxide toward Jupiter which creates an AC current in Jupiter's magnetic field."

I must be careful, for we all know how much jonesy HATES scholars, especially outspoken ones.

Jul 13, 2019
Oh I'm sorry. jonesy said that in the other phorum about 'Alternating currents in Jupiter's magnetosphere, which is caused by Jupiter's moon Io emitting sulfur dioxide toward Jupiter which creates an AC current in Jupiter's magnetic field."

I must be careful, for we all know how much jonesy HATES scholars, especially outspoken ones.


WTF are you talking about, you utter clown? We have known about Birkeland currents at Jupiter for decades, you ignorant fool. That is why I linked to papers from 1976 and 1980, saying such things. We know the Io plasma torus creates a current, you idiot. Have done for bloody decades. Want some links for that as well, you tosspot?
Go away, lizard boy, you are an utterly clueless psycho.

Jul 13, 2019
Sez Egg:

jonesy has already admitted long ago that he is no scientist; just likes to dabble in it by reading all the books, journals, papers, magazines, etc dealing with old worn-out science that agrees with everything he had learnt already. jonesy would have to be led, kicking and screaming, before he accepts any new science. Notice how he makes a point to say that "Birkeland currents had been known of since......".


Wouldn't it be interesting to see a profile view of jonesy, I can't help but picture a short round incel. Probably couldn't get dates in high school or college at Auckland where he got his Anthropology degree.

It just has to be miserable being CV Jonesy. He mostly talks about toilets & stuff like that when embarking on those name calling rants. I mean, to come to a science site & spend most of your time talking about toilets & constant referrals to the nether regions of the body are telltale signs of something he has been missing in life.

Jul 13, 2019
jonesy would have to be led, kicking and screaming, before he accepts any new science.


What new science, you prat? You don't understand ANY science, so how the **** would you know, you uneducated poser? The science of time not existing? Lol. Or Voyager's trip to the Oort cloud?
Give up you idiot.

Jul 13, 2019
This discussion will fit nicely in the EU paradigm.

If electricity was as ubiquitous and attributable for shaping galaxies and their solar systems as you profess, why bother trying to do fusion just to generate it? It's already like a decades long Manhattan Project and the strongest electromagnetic fields they can make still aren't quite able to manage the release of energy from the conversion of just a tiny amount of _mass_.
Scientists around the world seek to replicate fusion on Earth for a virtually inexhaustible supply of power to generate electricity.


The Earth has an electrical field, but it is Direct Current, not Alternating Current as in Jupiter.
As discussed in other phorums, Nuclear FUSION cannot be accomplished within a Tokamak, mainly due to the Tokamak being an enclosure that is built to prevent any leakage of the contents.
The Sun is a Star that is not enclosed by anything, which makes it possible for solar flares, etc. to freely go out...

Jul 13, 2019
....into Space where the gases cool a bit before being drawn back into the Sun. It can't be done inside a Tokamak, but they will keep trying, I'm sure.

Jul 13, 2019
It just has to be miserable being CV Jonesy. He mostly talks about toilets & stuff like that when embarking on those name calling rants. I mean, to come to a science site & spend most of your time talking about toilets & constant referrals to the nether regions of the body is telltale signs of something he has been missing in life.


Says the Dunning-Kruger afflicted retard with zero physics knowledge, no mathematical ability, and has no science degrees. And I don't have a degree in anthropology, you lying piece of shit. And if I did, how come I know far more about physics than you do, who claims to have studied it, yet doesn't even know what a half-life is? And claims to understand DEs, but fails miserably with simple maths? You are a fantasist moron. A janitor at best.

Jul 13, 2019
....into Space where the gases cool a bit before being drawn back into the Sun. It can't be done inside a Tokamak, but they will keep trying, I'm sure.


WTF are you talking about now, you retard? Just stay away from science, because you are totally out of your depth, even at high school level. Pathetic wretch. Christ knows why I'm even responding to a dick who claims to be inhabited by an alien lizard! The mind boggles.

Jul 13, 2019
jonesy would have to be led, kicking and screaming, before he accepts any new science.


What new science, you prat? You don't understand ANY science, so how the **** would you know, you uneducated poser? The science of time not existing? Lol. Or Voyager's trip to the Oort cloud?
Give up you idiot.
says Castrovagina

Having your period, jonesy?
Tell us, jonesy. What is "time" made/composed of? What is its constituents? What is its structure; its composition; and what does it DO? Is It an entity; an object that you can see? Does "time" interact with anything? Does "time" stir your senses? Does it move? Can it go in reverse? If so, HOW does it go in reverse or forward? Does 'time' have its origins in the Quantum Universe?
Do tell us all that you know bout time, jonesy.

Jul 13, 2019
LOL Mind reading Alien lizard is what Schneib decided to call me. I told him that I'm not a lizard, but he continued calling me that in every phorum. And now, jonesy has picked up on it, without thinking, obviously.

Jul 13, 2019
Sez Egg:

jonesy has already admitted long ago that he is no scientist; ... been known of since......".


Wouldn't it be interesting to see a profile view of jonesy, I can't help but picture a short round incel. Probably couldn't get dates in high school or college at Auckland where he got his Anthropology degree.

It just has to be miserable being CV Jonesy. He mostly talks about toilets & stuff like that when embarking on those name calling rants. I mean, to come to a science site & spend most of your time talking about toilets & constant referrals to the nether regions of the body are telltale signs of something he has been missing in life.
says Benni

After reading jonesy's screaming girly tirades, it is almost a relief to hear the news that is disseminated by the Socialist Left for laughs.
I think that jonesy has been forced to remain celibate and is quite similar to SpookyOtto, both fat and ugly with a strong dislike of those of us who wish to learn.

Jul 13, 2019
If electricity was as ubiquitous and attributable for shaping galaxies and their solar systems as you profess, why bother trying to do fusion just to generate it?

You mean like this?
https://phys.org/...rth.html


Jul 13, 2019
jonesy grows apoplectic and should pop his buttons any time soon. It is sad to see or read of yet another 'bag of cells' going to waste, but I am almost certain that jonesy is an atheist, which is why he is fond of using improper and nasty verbiage, rather than talking in normal "kind and gentle" speech patterns. Although Hawking was also an atheist, but I don't recall him ever being abusive and behaving in a dull-witted fashion.

Jul 13, 2019
Not currents. Stop making stuff up, you clown. Nobody is claiming that ion cyclotron waves are currents!

Waves of electromagnetic energy....

"Electromagnetic waves are emitted by electrically charged particles undergoing acceleration,[4][5] and these waves can subsequently interact with other charged particles, exerting force on them. EM waves carry energy, momentum and angular momentum away from their source particle and can impart those quantities to matter with which they interact."
https://en.m.wiki...adiation

Jul 14, 2019

Do tell us all that you know bout time, jonesy.


Nope. Just point me to a paper that describes whatever BS you are talking about. You seem incapable of coherent sentences, lizard boy. If it is something that you have made up then, given your complete scientific illiteracy, it can be safely ignored. You know Jack about any science.

Jul 14, 2019
Not currents. Stop making stuff up, you clown. Nobody is claiming that ion cyclotron waves are currents!

Waves of electromagnetic energy....

"Electromagnetic waves are emitted by electrically charged particles undergoing acceleration,[4][5] and these waves can subsequently interact with other charged particles, exerting force on them. EM waves carry energy, momentum and angular momentum away from their source particle and can impart those quantities to matter with which they interact."
https://en.m.wiki...adiation


Link me to anybody who is claiming that ion cyclotron waves are currents, woo boy.

In plasma physics, an electrostatic ion cyclotron wave is a longitudinal oscillation of the ions (and electrons) in a magnetized plasma, propagating nearly (but not exactly) perpendicular to the magnetic field.


https://en.wikipe...ron_wave

Where is the current?

Jul 14, 2019
If electricity was as ubiquitous and attributable for shaping galaxies and their solar systems as you profess, why bother trying to do fusion just to generate it?
......because of the necessity for transforming MASS to Energy, you know E=mc². All energy starts here.

After mass has been transformed to Electro-Magnetic energy, the process of ENTROPY (distribution of energy) begins with generating kinetic energy. Kinetic Energy=1/2mv² is created when electron shell orbitals absorb EM Waves & change orbital positions, this change of orbital positioning of electrons is MOTION or to say it a bit more scientifically, 1/2mv². It is this same KE process tby which MOTION is created everywhere in the Universe, ultimately transferring that kinetic energy into the movement of every galaxy in the Universe, alias ENTROPY the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics which is SETTLED SCIENCE.

Jul 14, 2019
^^^^^^ Give up you clown. You are clueless. Stick to cleaning toilets.

Jul 14, 2019
^^^^^^ Give up you clown. You are clueless. Stick to cleaning toilets.
.....you sure have a fixation on "toilets" don't you? Why is that? In which room do you think most about "toilets", the Men's or the Women's? Hoping to get lucky someday in one of them?

Life for INCELS can be a tough row to hoe even for an experienced Anthropologist like you so experienced at wandering around in fields of tall grass & weeds. Want to finally do something useful in your life, build a house, I did.

Jul 14, 2019
With many science articles I learn as much from the discussion as I do from the article itself.

The obvious exception is when these three infants do their name calling. Not much to be learned from them and allowing such behavior to continue certainly does dim the reputation of the site.

This site can be dedicated to science or to politics, it is clear the two do not mix well.

Banning and deleting such comments as have dominated this article would be an improvement.
Anyone with authority noticing the embarrassment? Or are you completely without any pride at all?

Jul 14, 2019
Are you afraid to take on the possibility that I am correct?
A million monkeys typing for a million years can write a book so I guess one monkey freak could be right about something.

This thread is SO depressing. Sicko critical mass.

WHY has physorg let this place degenerate so?
Anyone with authority noticing the embarrassment? Or are you completely without any pride at all?
1) I think they want us to donate or
2) they want an excuse to close the comments section

Jul 14, 2019
Wow, is this twitter, or youtube? Sure reads like it with all the trolls and children. So disappointing

Jul 14, 2019
Link me to anybody who is claiming that ion cyclotron waves are currents, woo boy.

In plasma physics, an electrostatic ion cyclotron wave is a longitudinal oscillation of the ions (and electrons) in a magnetized plasma, propagating nearly (but not exactly) perpendicular to the magnetic field.

https://en.wikipe...ron_wave

Where is the current?

The above paper is discussing magnetospheric observations of electromagnetic waves and not electrostatic waves, but regardless;
Waves of electromagnetic energy....

"Electromagnetic waves are emitted by electrically charged particles undergoing acceleration,[4][5] and these waves can subsequently interact with other charged particles, exerting force on them. EM waves carry energy, momentum and angular momentum away from their source particle and can impart those quantities to matter with which they interact."

EM waves are the result of electricity in the plasma.

Jul 14, 2019
A charged particle produces an electric field

Electric fields exert a force on charged particles
Positive charges accelerate in the direction of the field
Negative charges accelerate in a direction opposite to the direction of the field.
A moving charged particle produces a magnetic field
This magnetic field exerts a force on other moving charges
The force on these charges is always perpendicular to the direction of their velocity
Only changes the direction of the velocity, not the speed.
Accelerating charged particle produces an electromagnetic wave
Electromagnetic waves
Are electric and magnetic fields
Travel through the vacuum with the speed of light c
A charged particle
Oscillating about an equilibrium position
Is an accelerating charged particle
Its frequency of oscillation f
The wavelength λ = c/f
cantdrive> Electromagnetic waves emitted by electrically charged accelerating particles

Would you Adam and Eve it, Cantdrive is Right – Again!

Jul 14, 2019
Lectures by Janitorial Jonesy in this Mop and Bucket

Cantdrive has waited since August 14, 2012
For this historic moment of this July 14, 2019
For all those long hours
In mortal combat
With Janitorial Jonesy
For jonesy missed this coming
Of cantdrives crowning moment
For cantdrive is beholden to phys.org
For their vindication of cantdrives theories
For no longer does cantdrive need to mop out
Cantdrives janitorial duties have served their purpose
For Janitorial Jonesy has taken this mop
For none know this science of this mop and bucket
As Janitorial Jonesy hath this degree
As he oft lectures one and all on these intricacies of this mop and bucket

p.s. a lesson to all who denigrate with this mop and bucket foreth it mighteth backfire

Jul 14, 2019

EM waves are the result of electricity in the plasma.


Where are the currents, dumbo? Papers. Observation. Anybody even remotely scientifically qualified and literate that is saying the all-sky sureys are full of a spaghetti of electric currents? Nobody, woo boy. Not even Peratt.
I am not interested in your unqualified, idiotic opinions. Let's see the detections. I've told you where to find them. They aren't there. You lose.

Jul 14, 2019
If electricity was as ubiquitous and attributable for shaping galaxies and their solar systems as you profess, why bother trying to do fusion just to generate it?

You mean like this?
https://phys.org/...rth.html
Moving generation equipment way off the surface of the planet? No, CD85, you're evading the point, and you're also talking about the conversion of particle momentum into electricity and the tremendous conversion inefficiencies associated with beaming the power back down to the planet, nope, missed the point pretty much entirely.

Jul 14, 2019

Do tell us all that you know bout time, jonesy.


Nope. Just point me to a paper that describes whatever BS you are talking about. You seem incapable of coherent sentences, lizard boy. If it is something that you have made up then, given your complete scientific illiteracy, it can be safely ignored. You know Jack about any science.
says Castrovagina

Your "Nope" says it all. It is your admittance that you can't even consider the possibility and probability that 'time' doesn't exist and is only something that was conceived by the human mind.
Since it is a NEW THEORY, there are no such papers published, as yet, to describe all that I have said about it in several of these physorg phorums. In the event that it is written up in the future, you will just have to wait for it. But I will keep a copy of what you have said in order to remind you that you could not tell us "what is time made of", and instead, pooh poohed the idea while demanding evidence, as usual.

Jul 14, 2019
^^^^^^ Give up you clown. You are clueless. Stick to cleaning toilets.
.....you sure have a fixation on "toilets" don't you? Why is that? In which room do you think most about "toilets", the Men's or the Women's? Hoping to get lucky someday in one of them?

Life for INCELS can be a tough row to hoe even for an experienced Anthropologist like you so experienced at wandering around in fields of tall grass & weeds. Want to finally do something useful in your life, build a house, I did.
says Benni

And don't forget that jonesy aka Castrovagina took up Astronomy as an elective at Auckland U. so that he could have an excuse to buy a telescope for studying what was going on in the houses of his neighbors through their windows.
I don't know if he received a Ph.D for that kind of activity, but I'm sure that he took great pleasure in it.
It is unlikely that jonesy could even build a wee doghouse, much less one that is 5k square feet.

Jul 14, 2019
With many science articles I learn as much from the discussion as I do from the article itself.

The obvious exception is when these three infants do their name calling. Not much to be learned from them and allowing such behavior to continue certainly does dim the reputation of the site.

This site can be dedicated to science or to politics, it is clear the two do not mix well.

Banning and deleting such comments as have dominated this article would be an improvement.
Anyone with authority noticing the embarrassment? Or are you completely without any pride at all?
says etherair

You have brought up a few good points. If you had taken the time to read the comments coming from Castrovagina, you should have noticed that it is he who is the main source of the 'name-calling' and it is continuous, having gone on for years with ad hominem attacks. Those of us who read the articles and the published papers and who wish to discuss these matters are prone to his vile obscenities

Jul 14, 2019
With many science articles I learn as much from the discussion as I do from the article itself.

The obvious exception is when these three infants do their name calling. Not much to be learned from them and allowing such behavior to continue certainly does dim the reputation of the site.

This site can be dedicated to science or to politics, it is clear the two do not mix well.

Banning and deleting such comments as have dominated this article would be an improvement.
Anyone with authority noticing the embarrassment? Or are you completely without any pride at all?
......a big part of the problem is that one of the site's Moderator's is Da Schneib, he sets the tenor for Castrogiovanni & a few others to carry on their never ceasing name calling rants & has even gone so far as to delete or change his own & other people's Comments without notification in accordance with Protocol. If you're wondering, yes this Chatroom has a big problem because of dishonest participants in it.


Jul 14, 2019
If electricity was as ubiquitous and attributable for shaping galaxies and their solar systems as you profess, why bother trying to do fusion just to generate it?

You mean like this?
https://phys.org/...rth.html
Moving generation equipment way off the surface of the planet? No, CD85, you're evading the point, and you're also talking about the conversion of particle momentum into electricity and the tremendous conversion inefficiencies associated with beaming the power back down to the planet, nope, missed the point pretty much entirely.

I got your strawman, and I provided per your request. Now you are qualifying it to salvage your pride.

Jul 14, 2019
Where are the currents

Creating the EM waves and magnetic fields.

Jul 14, 2019
Where are the currents

Creating the EM waves and magnetic fields.
.........EM Waves are what magnetic fields consist of. Magnetic fields are ultra-low frequency photons, far below the frequency range of radio waves, so far below that the waves are practically linear in the EM Spectrum because the wavelengths are so long.

Jul 14, 2019
The three stooges post on the same thread.

Jul 14, 2019
The three stooges post on the same thread.
says the head stooge

Hey Schneib - I've noticed that your evil Master seems to be keeping a low profile. Avoiding crowds, is he? But he continues to seek out those god-haters in science websites to add to his collection of souls. Ever wonder what he will do with those souls in his vast collection? Perhaps he saves a few for a snack, and the rest he expects them to fight for him in the coming 'end times'.
It will happen soon enough, Schneib, I promise you that.
In the meantime, Schneib, rrwillsj will continue to entertain you with her inane, droning bits of nothing-burgers, while the rest of us poor folk just skim over her cranky idiocies.

Jul 14, 2019
If electricity was as ubiquitous and attributable for shaping galaxies and their solar systems as you profess, why bother trying to do fusion just to generate it?

You mean like this?
https://phys.org/...rth.html
Moving generation equipment way off the surface of the planet? No, CD85, you're evading the point, and you're also talking about the conversion of particle momentum into electricity and the tremendous conversion inefficiencies associated with beaming the power back down to the planet, nope, missed the point pretty much entirely.
I got your strawman, and I provided per your request. Now you are qualifying it to salvage your pride.
Herding the electrons into solid conductors so I can run motors, here on earth, isn't a strawman. Just because almost 5% of the universe is composed of charged particles doesn't mean the stars shine from electricity alone.

Jul 14, 2019
Herding the electrons into solid conductors so I can run motors, here on earth, isn't a strawman.

I fail to see what this has to do with the topic at hand.

Just because almost 5% of the universe is composed of charged particles doesn't mean the stars shine from electricity alone.

99.9% of the Universe is plasma. When you actually find your faerie dust and leprechaun energy you can use it in your tally, until then we count what's actually there.

Jul 15, 2019

99.9% of the Universe is plasma.
cantdrive85

Yes, as long as you exclude dark matter (which might not even exist anyway), I think you are in bold figures right:

https://www.newwo...ntry/Ion
"...Some estimates suggest that 99 percent or more of the entire visible universe is plasma..."


Jul 15, 2019
Herding the electrons into solid conductors so I can run motors, here on earth, isn't a strawman. Just because almost 5% of the universe is composed of charged particles doesn't mean the stars shine from electricity alone.


40% of starshine energy comes from fission/fusion of H1 hydrogen, another 40% comes from fusion of hydrogen to. The remaining 20% of energy production is the remaining peripheral stuff that occurs as a byproduct of fission & fusion process of H1 hydrogen into deuterium long before it even makes it to the helium state.

In our Sun helium is estimated at 10-25% of the total mass, most of the rest is some form of H1, H2, or H3 hydrogen.

RNP
Jul 15, 2019
@Benni
There is no such thing a H3 because you can not doubly ionize hydrogen (and in fact the others should be written HI and HII (i.e. with the letter I, not numbers).

Jul 15, 2019
Herding the electrons into solid conductors so I can run motors, here on earth, isn't a strawman.
I fail to see what this has to do with the topic at hand.
How convenient. If the universe is all electric, why do we have to generate electricity from scratch in order to harness it? Your suggestion of using energy from the solar wind isn't much different than using energy from particles composed of two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom, plus gravity, commonly referred to as hydroelectric power, to generate electricity.

99.9% of the Universe is plasma. When you actually find your faerie dust and leprechaun energy you can use it in your tally, until then we count what's actually there.
Fairly obvious you see the universe with your eyes instead of your mind, and you say it's how you want it to be (all electric) instead of how actual scientists have shown it to be...

Jul 15, 2019
If the universe is all electric, why do we have to generate electricity from scratch in order to harness it?
We live on Earth, largely shielded from the Sun's electricity, however Telsa was in the process of harnessing this free electricity until his investors grasped the idea of his goals. He was then cut-off from funding.
Fairly obvious you see the universe with your eyes instead of your mind, and you say it's how you want it to be (all electric) instead of how actual scientists have shown it to be...

It is obvious, everywhere we look we see plasma, magnetic fields, and EM radiation all which require electricity. And "scientists" have only shown it to be based upon their beliefs and interpretations, and what they have shown is their Universe consists mostly of faerie dust and leprechaun energy.

Jul 15, 2019
And "scientists" have only shown it to be based upon their beliefs and interpretations, and what they have shown is their Universe consists mostly of faerie dust and leprechaun energy.
Their tally adds up so well that their hard work, diligence, and dedication to veracity in pointing out where the current physics is incomplete and doesn't add up is taken by you and somehow tallied into some kind of justification that it must all be electric. Where in Maxwell's equations do you see Einstein's? It's in Einstein's that you can find Maxwell's...

Jul 15, 2019
It is obvious, everywhere we look we see plasma, magnetic fields, and EM radiation all which require electricity.


There are no currents running through a permanent magnet. Explain that.
You are so full of chit.

Jul 15, 2019
There are no currents running through a permanent magnet. Explain that.

The electrons responsible for ferromagnetism create the currents that cause the magnetic field. There are no free lunches in EM theory.

Jul 15, 2019
The genius scholar and his theory of time:

In order for Time to be 'bent' or manipulated in some way, Time would need to be comprised of any element in the Periodic Table...


lol.

Jul 15, 2019
@cant

"...Some estimates suggest that 99 percent or more of the entire visible universe is plasma..."

Visible, not the entire universe, the visible universe, big difference.

RNP
Jul 15, 2019
@Benni
most of the rest is some form of H1, H2, or H3 hydrogen....

Sorry, I have just realized that you were probably talking about the isotopes of H rather than its ionization state, but you should written; .. 1H, 2H or 3H.... The prefix (normally a superscript) indicates the isotope, the suffix (in Roman numerals) is the ionization state.

Jul 15, 2019
@cant

"...Some estimates suggest that 99 percent or more of the entire visible universe is plasma..."

Visible, not the entire universe, the visible universe, big difference.

Like I said previously, when the faerie dust and leprechaun energy are found feel free to add them up in your tally. Until then, we count what we see, that 99.9% of the Universe is plasma.

Jul 15, 2019

It is obvious, everywhere we look we see plasma, magnetic fields, and EM radiation all which require electricity. And "scientists" have only shown it to be based upon their beliefs and interpretations, and what they have shown is their Universe consists mostly of faerie dust and leprechaun energy.


Lol. Yet more science-free word salad! You have no science. You have no scientists. You have no mechanisms. You have no evidence.

Black holes? Observed. You have no explanation.
Dark matter? Observed. See gravitational lensing. You have no explanation.
Gravitational waves? Observed. You have no explanation.
Neutron stars? Observed. You have no explanation.
Nuclear fusion powering stars? Observed. You have no explanation.
Tidal heating of satellites? Observed. You have no explanation.
Magnetic reconnection? Observed. You have no explanation.

I could go on, but you get the drift. All you have is a bunch of unqualified, Velikovskian loons. You're going nowhere with that!

Jul 15, 2019

Like I said previously, when the faerie dust and leprechaun energy are found feel free to add them up in your tally. Until then, we count what we see, that 99.9% of the Universe is plasma.


More meaningless word salad. 50% of that plasma is +, the other 50% is -. It ain't doing nothing at cosmological scales.

Jul 15, 2019

You have brought up a few good points. If you had taken the time to read the comments coming from Castrovagina, you should have noticed that it is he who is the main source of the 'name-calling' and it is continuous, having gone on for years with ad hominem attacks. Those of us who read the articles and the published papers and who wish to discuss these matters are prone to his vile obscenities


You don't understand the science. You don't understand the papers. You make crap up. You believe you are host to an alien lizard. You are a complete and utter loon.

Jul 15, 2019

Since it is a NEW THEORY, there are no such papers published, as yet, to describe all that I have said about it in several of these physorg phorums. In the event that it is written up in the future, you will just have to wait for it. But I will keep a copy of what you have said in order to remind you that you could not tell us "what is time made of", and instead, pooh poohed the idea while demanding evidence, as usual.


Nope. Not a theory. Not even a hypothesis. A bunch of science-free crap from a scientifically illiterate moron. No more needs to be said.

Jul 15, 2019
EM waves are the result of electricity in the plasma.


Where are your currents? Solar wind? Not a current. IMF carried by the solar wind. Where is the current to maintain it? It ain't there. For bleeding obvious reasons. If the Sun was emitting an excess of one charge over another, what would happen? Lern to scienz, you hopeless wretch.

Jul 15, 2019
@Benni
most of the rest is some form of H1, H2, or H3 hydrogen....

Sorry, I have just realized that you were probably talking about the isotopes of H rather than its ionization state, but you should written; .. 1H, 2H or 3H.... The prefix (normally a superscript) indicates the isotope, the suffix (in Roman numerals) is the ionization state.
......I see you don't spend much time reading physics reviews, it's as I stated, you just managed to do what you do best & reverse the facts of a matter.

Jul 15, 2019
......I see you don't spend much time reading physics reviews, it's as I stated, you just managed to do what you do best & reverse the facts of a matter.


Nope. He's right, you're wrong. As usual.

Jul 15, 2019
Black holes? Not Observed. Plasmoids!
Dark matter? Not Observed. Plasma lensing
Gravitational waves? Not Observed. Pattern matching, nothing more.
Neutron stars? Not Observed as guessed. See Peratt lab based explanation, Relaxation Oscillation.
Nuclear fusion powering stars? Not Observed, only assumed. No Electric Sun hypothesis precludes fusion.
Tidal heating of satellites? Not Observed. Electric discharge occurring on airless surfaces.
Magnetic reconnection? Observed. Previously described by Alfvén as exploding double layers, prior to MRx pseudoscience arising.

There, fixed that for ya.

Jul 16, 2019
@cantdrive85.
Black holes?... Plasmoids!
Please recall what I pointed out re instability/explosivity of plasmoids. Thanks. :)
Dark matter? Not Observed. Plasma lensing
Not plasma lensing; just plain ordinary matter of low visibility being now increasingly detected by newer scopes/instruments.
Gravitational waves? Not Observed. Pattern matching, nothing more.
No comment re that at this time. :)
Neutron stars?....lab based explanation, Relaxation Oscillation
Can't just be overall spherical "relaxation/oscillation", else we would ALSO detect the ones whose polar-jets sweep does not cross our line of sight.
Nuclear fusion powering stars? Not Observed, only assumed.
Then why isn't Jupiter also a shining 'electric plasmoid' too?
Tidal heating of satellites?...Electric discharge...
Tidal distortion imparts energy via friction heating.
Magnetic reconnection?
Connections/shortings of charge-currents as magnetic flux-tubes/fields re-arrange. :)

Jul 16, 2019
Gravitational waves? Not Observed. Pattern matching, nothing more.
One of the most fascinating, hard to believe predictions of general relativity was that certain massive objects in orbit around each other would not stay in orbit, but rather they would slowly spiral inward toward each other, and the equations of GR predicted a very precise rate at which this inward spiral would occur (based on the mass of the objects and on how compact they are). The equations also predicted a common, simple, very specific waveform: as an audible waveform it's referred to as a "chirp". The prediction has been tested by LIGO, VIRGO, et al. and gravitational waves have been detected several times now, in accordance with the rather astounding predictions.

What do the equations of CD85 and the electric universe predict for binary "plasmoids(?)" ?

There, fixed that for ya
Not without a better prediction you didn't...

Jul 16, 2019
I gotta ask, how can binary "plasmoids" suck stuff in?

Jul 16, 2019
Black holes? Not Observed. Plasmoids!
Dark matter? Not Observed. Plasma lensing
Gravitational waves? Not Observed. Pattern matching, nothing more.
Neutron stars? Not Observed as guessed. See Peratt lab based explanation, Relaxation Oscillation.
Nuclear fusion powering stars? Not Observed, only assumed. No Electric Sun hypothesis precludes fusion.
Tidal heating of satellites? Not Observed. Electric discharge occurring on airless surfaces.
Magnetic reconnection? Observed. Previously described by Alfvén as exploding double layers, prior to MRx pseudoscience arising.

There, fixed that for ya.


Nope, you just made up a load of unscientific, evidence-free, impossible woo. Still, we are used to that with electric universe clowns. Scott and Thornhill have been suckering people with it for years. One side has evidence. One has none. And I think you'll find that you are on the losing side. Unless you'd like to present some evidence? Nope? Thought not.

Jul 16, 2019
Black holes? Not Observed. Plasmoids!

Show how plasmoids (lol!) explain stellar orbits and gravitational redshift. Still waiting.

Dark matter? Not Observed. Plasma lensing

Nope, cannot happen. Far too small an effect. Pure woo.

Gravitational waves? Not Observed. Pattern matching, nothing more.

Lol. And confirmed by the simultaneous EM detection from the merging neutron stars. Including the predicted r-process nucleosynthesis. Helluva guess that was!

Neutron stars? Not Observed as guessed. See Peratt lab based explanation, Relaxation Oscillation.

See above.

Nuclear fusion powering stars? Not Observed, only assumed. No Electric Sun hypothesis precludes fusion.

Observed. The right amount and the right neutrino energy spectrum to match predictions for a 100% nuclear powered Sun. Electric Sun models fail trivially.

[cont.....]


Jul 16, 2019
Tidal heating of satellites? Not Observed. Electric discharge occurring on airless surfaces.

Wrong. Observed. We can calculate the distortion of Io. It is ~ 100m. In solid rock. How is electric woo doing that? Lol.

Magnetic reconnection? Observed. Previously described by Alfvén as exploding double layers, prior to MRx pseudoscience arising.

Nope. Nothing to do with double layers, exploding or otherwise. Observed in the lab, observed in-situ. Multiple times. Not a single scientist in the field denies MR. Just a bunch of unqualified Velikovskian loons.

Of course, I can link to multiple papers backing up what I say above. You can't. You cannot even define mechanisms for those observations. You are still in a science-free zone. Stick to mythology.

Jul 16, 2019
Nuclear fusion powering stars? Not Observed, only assumed. No Electric Sun hypothesis precludes fusion.


True. Scott, the cretin, has it from fusion in a double layer in the chromosphere! Somebody needs to inform said cretin that such an occurrence would bathe our lovely planet in deadly gamma rays! He should stick to rewiring houses, or whatever he used to do.

Jul 17, 2019

You have brought up a few good points. If you had taken the time to read the comments coming from Castrovagina, you should have noticed that it is he who is the main source of the 'name-calling' and it is continuous, having gone on for years with ad hominem attacks. Those of us who read the articles and the published papers and who wish to discuss these matters are prone to his vile obscenities


You don't understand the science. You don't understand the papers. You make crap up. You believe you are host to an alien lizard. You are a complete and utter loon.
says Castrovagina

Of course I understand science AND the papers. Alien lizard? Whatever gave you that idea? It had to be Schneib. He's an even better liar than you are.
So tell me, Castrovagina - what is Time made of? Still don't know?

Jul 17, 2019
One of the most fascinating, hard to believe predictions of general relativity, blah, blah...

What's fascinating and hard to believe is the pseudoscientific claptrap of the Grand Plagerist is actually considered science, but only by morons.
What do the equations of CD85 and the electric universe predict for binary "plasmoids(?)" ?

Bostick worked this out back in the 50's, you still unaware? Peratt provided lab based simulations, it goes something like this;
https://www.plasm...rmation/

Jul 17, 2019
Nope, you just made up a load of unscientific, evidence-free, impossible woo.

Opposite world as usual jonesdumb.
Plasmoids are real, reproducible. Black holes purely hypothetical.
Plasma lensing in real, used on Earth everyday. Gravitational lensing purely hypothetical.
Relaxation oscillation along plasma filaments between two closely orbiting stars or a "lighthouse star" spinning faster than a dentist's drill?
Electromagnetic fusion is real and reproducible, gravity fusion is purely hypothetical.
Electric discharge is obviously real, tidal heating is conjecture.
Solving the riddle of real exploding double layers solved technological problems. Not so much with MRx pseudoscience.
Up is down, black is white, etc, etc, etc...

Jul 17, 2019
...fusion in a double layer in the chromosphere! Somebody needs to inform said cretin that such an occurrence would bathe our lovely planet in deadly gamma rays!

The chromosphere is where we see the vortex tubes that can produce the plasmoids which create the fusion. And the solar atmosphere is layered like an onion, the layers of which can trap radiation as has been shown in the lab. No problems there.

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