Hubble celebrates its 29th birthday with unrivaled view of the Southern Crab Nebula

Hubble celebrates its 29th birthday with unrivaled view of the Southern Crab Nebula
The Southern Crab Nebula -- Hubble's 29th anniversary image. Credit: NASA, ESA, and STScI

This incredible image of the hourglass-shaped Southern Crab Nebula was taken to mark the NASA/ESA Hubble Space Telescope's 29th anniversary in space. The nebula, created by a binary star system, is one of the many objects that Hubble has demystified throughout its productive life. This new image adds to our understanding of the nebula and demonstrates the telescope's continued capabilities.

On 24 April 1990, the NASA/ESA Hubble Space Telescope was launched on the shuttle Discovery. It has since revolutionised how astronomers and the general public see the Universe. The images it provides are spectacular from both a scientific and a purely aesthetic point of view.

Each year the telescope dedicates a small portion of its precious observing time to take a special anniversary image, focused on capturing particularly beautiful and meaningful objects. This year's image is the Southern Crab Nebula, and it is no exception.

This peculiar nebula, which exhibits nested hourglass-shaped structures, has been created by the interaction between a pair of stars at its centre. The unequal pair consists of a red giant and a white dwarf. The red giant is shedding its outer layers in the last phase of its life before it too lives out its final years as a white dwarf. Some of the red giant's ejected material is attracted by the gravity of its companion.

When enough of this cast-off material is pulled onto the white dwarf, it too ejects the material outwards in an eruption, creating the structures we see in the nebula. Eventually, the red giant will finish throwing off its outer layers, and stop feeding its white dwarf companion. Prior to this, there may also be more eruptions, creating even more intricate structures.

Astronomers did not always know this, however. The object was first written about in 1967, but was assumed to be an ordinary star until 1989, when it was observed using telescopes at the European Southern Observatory's La Silla Observatory. The resulting image showed a roughly crab-shaped extended , formed by symmetrical bubbles of gas and dust.

These observations only showed the outer hourglass emanating from a bright central region that could not be resolved. It was not until Hubble observed the Southern Crab in 1998 that the entire came into view. This image revealed the inner nested structures, suggesting that the phenomenon that created the outer bubbles had occurred twice in the (astronomically) recent past.

It is fitting that Hubble has returned to this object twenty years after its first observation. This new image adds to the story of an active and evolving object and contributes to the story of Hubble's role in our evolving understanding of the Universe.


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Apr 18, 2019
The Z-pinch of the interstellar Birkeland currents is obvious.

Apr 18, 2019
The Z-pinch of the interstellar Birkeland currents is obvious.


To no one but you.

Apr 18, 2019
Welp that does it. That last comment finally convinced me that cantdrive85 has been right all along. They are as persistent as the ancient alien guys hair, and truth is obviously in persistence not in verified observation understood and described through rigorous maths. Good job CD you've whittled me down and now have my vote.

Apr 18, 2019
Because y'all ignore the maths and remain willfully ignorant does not make me wrong.

Apr 18, 2019
@cantdrive85.
The Z-pinch of the interstellar Birkeland currents is obvious.
Seriously, you need to temper your enthusiasm for 'seeing' Z-pinch/Plasmoid features everywhere, mate. :)

The logics would have it that IF it all is as you claim, then ALL stars/binaries would have that nebula pattern observed! :)

Yet ONLY those stars/binaries involved in stellar explosions/binary evolutionary interactions show such explosion-related nebula patterns.

The FACT that the MAJORITY of stars/binaries observed are NOT as you claim (ie, they do NOT have that nebula pattern; which they WOULD ALL have IF your assertions were correct) should make you think twice before again spamming your false assertions on every thread where such pattern appears.

Anyhow, mate, please in future think through the LOGICS as well as the PHYSICS before making such obviously illogical/unphysical claims immediately refuted by observations of the rest of the stellar/binary population. Thanks. :)

Apr 19, 2019
Seriously, you need to temper your enthusiasm for 'seeing' Z-pinch/Plasmoid features everywhere, mate. :)

The logics would have it that IF it all is as you claim, then ALL stars/binaries would have that nebula pattern observed!

You will likely only see the currents, of which the stars are powered, when the current density is high enough. Given observational evidence, the Sun's own environment matches this morphology.

Apr 19, 2019
What's next for the Eclectic Wooniverse? Magnetic eructations from jebus?

Apr 19, 2019
Seriously, you need to temper your enthusiasm for 'seeing' Z-pinch/Plasmoid features everywhere, mate. :)

The logics would have it that IF it all is as you claim, then ALL stars/binaries would have that nebula pattern observed!

You will likely only see the currents, of which the stars are powered, when the current density is high enough. Given observational evidence, the Sun's own environment matches this morphology.


Puerile, impossible crap. Get a life.

Apr 19, 2019
Given observational evidence, the Sun's own environment matches this morphology.


Liar. Stop talking out of your backside. Those lobes originate from the central stars, and are heading out in opposite directions. Z-pinches don't do that. Go away, get an education and quit with the lying.

Apr 19, 2019
This theory, Z-Pinch in Plasmoids
Seriously, you need to temper your enthusiasm for 'seeing' Z-pinch/Plasmoid features everywhere

Cantdrive, in his nut shell
but
what of this nutshell, Cantdrive
does
this Nut, like Cantdrive
also
hath Z-Pinch in Plasmoids
that is the question, Cantdrive
so what of your theory Cantdrive
Z-Pinch in Plasmoids

Apr 19, 2019
Z-Pinch in Plasmoids

In flowing electric current
In its encircling magnetic field
so
compress's this electric currant
so
enabling this Z-Pinch in Plasmoids
to the point of gamma radiation
so
why, Cantdrive
do
we not see this compressive force in plasmatic fusion
and
more to the point, Cantdrive
when flowing electric current in superconductors, the magnetic field repels this current
the exact reverse effect to this Z-Pinch in Plasmoids
anyway, Cantdrive
Your theory in graphical format
http://www.everyt...ch-1.jpg

Apr 19, 2019
Physics: Z-Pinch in Plasmoids
Z-pinch is an application of Lorentz force which a current-carrying conductor in a magnetic field experiences a force an example of the Lorentz force is two parallel wires are carrying current in the same direction the wires are pulled toward each other in a Z-pinch machine the wires are replaced by a plasma which can be thought of as many current-carrying wires where a current runs through the plasma the particles in plasma are pulled toward each other by the Lorentz force thus the plasma contracts

This experiment, Cantdrive old bean
two vacuum tubes
filled with plasma
where
electric current flows in these tubes
in
the same directions
so
Cantdrive, they will attract these two tubes together
but
this Cantdrive old bean is Obfuscation
because
in a singular tube
these ions
surrounded by their magnetic field will simply repel their neighbouring ions magnetic field
Expelling this magnetic field

Apr 19, 2019
Ions surrounded by their Magnetic Field Lines

When this plasma is free
when it is in this vacuum of space
these ions
repel neighbouring ions
so although this magnetic field surrounds this plasma
this magnetic field
will
expand till it reach's equilibrium
this magnetic field will not compress there by reducing this compressive force of this field
these magnetic field lines are repelling neighbouring field lines
these magnetic field lines expand into the infinite vacuous vacuum that is space
Cantdrive, old bean!

Apr 19, 2019
Because y'all ignore the maths and remain willfully ignorant does not make me wrong.


You have no theory whatsoever. You just marvel at the E&M EFFECTS of the well known physics at play.

Your theory is 'plasma does everything'. You're a fool.

Apr 19, 2019
This Nitty-Gritty in Cantdrive Plasma

This Obfuscation, Cantdrive
is all in the tubes of confined plasma
Where was this experiment carried out, Cantdrive?
if
you are basing all your magnetically plasmatic compressive plasma
of
plasma confined in tubes
where
this plasma cannot expand
you
are Obfuscating obfuscation
because
Cantdrive, old bean you do not believe in Gravity
that
force Cantdrive, that pulls plasmatic ions together so they are all nice and cosy
because
in this plasmatic world of Cantdrive
only
plasmatic ions exist
this electric force
this electric current
is
also repelling neighbouring ions
because
to have an electric current predisposes that all the ions are of the same negativity
otherwise Cantdrive, if they are all negative and positive
in the immortal words of that plasmatic sage
your
Plasma Cantdrive, is Quasi Neutral

Apr 19, 2019
Given observational evidence, the Sun's own environment matches this morphology.


Liar. Stop talking out of your backside. Those lobes originate from the central stars, and are heading out in opposite directions. Z-pinches don't do that. Go away, get an education and quit with the lying.

Yet that is what Lerner describes as what is being observed in his lab, a beam of electrons in one direction, a beam of ions in the other. The cosmic size of the observed currents most assuredly complicates this simple explanation, however.

Apr 19, 2019
Your theory is 'plasma does everything'.

No, but EM does almost everything. Especially at these scales.

Apr 19, 2019
Seriously, you need to temper your enthusiasm for 'seeing' Z-pinch/Plasmoid features everywhere, mate. :)

The logics would have it that IF it all is as you claim, then ALL stars/binaries would have that nebula pattern observed!

You will likely only see the currents, of which the stars are powered, when the current density is high enough. Given observational evidence, the Sun's own environment matches this morphology.


Puerile, impossible crap. Get a life.

Current density of plasma is "impossible crap"?

Alrighty then!

Apr 19, 2019
Lots of kudos points, Cantdrive

For returning the call
but
as is becoming common place
with
theories one and all espouses
this Nitty-Gritty
still appears to be still simply that
this Nitty-Gritty, Cantdrive
because
this Nitty-Gritty in Cantdrive Plasma is likened to this plasmatic Algorithm
There is a lot of unanswered questions, plasmaticly speaking, Cantdrive

Apr 19, 2019
This Southern Crab Nebula

A nebula in the constellation Centaurus
is seven thousand light years from Earth
and
its central star is a symbiotic
a Mira variable - white dwarf pair
is named for its resemblance to the Crab Nebula

This Hubble Space Telescope
https://www.space...po9932c/
A tempestuous relationship between an unlikely pair of stars may have created an oddly shaped, gaseous nebula that resembles an hourglass nestled within an hourglass
This image shows the small nebula that is embedded in the centre of the larger one
https://cdn.space...932c.jpg

Apr 19, 2019

Yet that is what Lerner describes as what is being observed in his lab, a beam of electrons in one direction, a beam of ions in the other. The cosmic size of the observed currents most assuredly complicates this simple explanation, however.


And is that what we observe? Ions in one direction and electrons in the other? No, it isn't, therefore you are still talking out of your backside. As is Lerner, if he thinks this is a z-pinch!

Apr 19, 2019
Current density of plasma is "impossible crap"?

Alrighty then!


Yep, the Sun is not a z-pinch. We would notice that!

Apr 19, 2019
Current density of plasma is "impossible crap"?

Alrighty then!


Yep, the Sun is not a z-pinch. We would notice that!

Man you're dumb, are you able to chew your food or do you require a feeding tube? The z-pinch is a process of magnetic compression, it is not an object. Yet, even though you don't even grasp to basic concepts you are sure the processes are impossible.

Apr 19, 2019
this Nitty-Gritty in Cantdrive Plasma is likened to this plasmatic Algorithm
There is a lot of unanswered questions, plasmaticly speaking, Cantdrive


Somebody else talking out of their backside.

Apr 19, 2019
Man you're dumb, are you able to chew your food or do you require a feeding tube? The z-pinch is a process of magnetic compression, it is not an object. Yet, even though you don't even grasp to basic concepts you are sure the processes are impossible.


What z-pinch, you clown? Where is it? Stop talking crap.

Apr 19, 2019
Interesting, jonesy
Castrogiovanni

this Nitty-Gritty in Cantdrive Plasma is likened to this plasmatic Algorithm
There is a lot of unanswered questions, plasmaticly speaking, Cantdrive


Somebody else talking out of their backside.

Always one for overreacting aren't we, jonesy

Apr 19, 2019
Given observational evidence, the Sun's own environment matches this morphology.
Those lobes originate from the central stars, and are heading out in opposite directions. Z-pinches don't do that. Go away, get an education and quit with the lying.


Yet that is what Lerner describes as what is being observed in his lab, a beam of electrons in one direction, a beam of ions in the other. The cosmic size of the observed currents most assuredly complicates this simple explanation, however.
says CD85

Perhaps you are giving too much credit to Lerner's lab experiments - as the lab setting on Earth is far from being the equivalent of such Events within interstellar or intergalactic Space. It will only become a scientific fact IF Lerner's lab experiments are also able to be replicated within the vacuum of interstellar Space. You trust too well, CD. You need to DEMAND better evidence.

And the photo above looks more garden spider-like than a crab.

Apr 20, 2019
Perhaps you are giving too much credit to Lerner's lab experiments

Experiments are paramount to producing real science, without it there is no ability to confirm a theory beyond speculation. That is is all the standard guesswork has, speculative maths gymnastics and thought experiments.
"Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality." Nikola Tesla
"We have to learn again that science without contact with experiments is an enterprise which is likely to go completely astray into imaginary conjecture." Hannes Alfvén
The advantage of plasma science is its scalability, we have already established plasma scalability over 14 orders of magnitude and Alfvén suggested 27 orders or more. As such, Lerner's lab experiments are vital to our understanding of the plasmoid at the center of the galaxy.

Apr 20, 2019

Experiments are paramount to producing real science, without it there is no ability to confirm a theory beyond speculation. That is is all the standard guesswork has, speculative maths gymnastics and thought experiments.
"Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality." Nikola Tesla
"We have to learn again that science without contact with experiments is an enterprise which is likely to go completely astray into imaginary conjecture." Hannes Alfvén
The advantage of plasma science is its scalability, we have already established plasma scalability over 14 orders of magnitude and Alfvén suggested 27 orders or more. As such, Lerner's lab experiments are vital to our understanding of the plasmoid at the center of the galaxy.


And observation shows him to be wrong. End of story. No z-pinch, no giant plasmoids. That went well, eh?

Apr 20, 2019
As such, Lerner's lab experiments are vital to our understanding of the plasmoid at the center of the galaxy.


There isn't one. He can experiment all he likes, the clown. It doesn't exist. Please provide links to where Lerner has reproduced the orbits of the stars around Sgr A* using plasmoid woo. And where he also explains the gravitational redshift of one of those stars at pericentre. I'm betting you can't, because it doesn't exist.

Apr 20, 2019
@cantdrive85.

Sure, lab experiments are a must in every field wherever possible. However, you must not lose sight of the fact that in a lab the conditions/structures for producing/maintaining the desired phenomena are controlled/adjusted at will. Whereas in space and large scales like stars/galaxies there is no way of controlling or structuring the local conditions which give rise to whatever phenomena is being observed. I already pointed that aspect out to you before, mate. That is the crucial point. In such situations as above space features/scales, there is NO 'lab-controlled/maintained' environment/structures for producing the phenomena you claim is there. I also pointed out that your claim is refuted by observations of the rest of the stellar/binary population, the overwhelming majority of which have NO such 'pattern' because they are not exploding/interacting stars/binaries and so do not produce such 'patterns'. Rethinkit, @cd. :)

Apr 20, 2019
Perhaps you are giving too much credit to Lerner's lab experiments

Experiments are paramount to producing real science, without it there is no ability to confirm a theory beyond speculation. That is is all the standard guesswork has, speculative maths gymnastics and thought experiments.
"Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and..." Nikola Tesla
"We have to learn again that science without contact with experiments is an enterprise which is likely to go completely astray into imaginary conjecture." Hannes Alfvén

...Lerner's lab experiments are vital to our understanding of the plasmoid at the center of the galaxy.
says CD85

I understand your respect for Lerner's lab work. However, the BEST lab to experiment in - is OUT THERE IN THE INTERSTELLAR Space itself. It is ONLY there that all theories and speculations are proven or disproven, and cannot be misconceived through bias for or against the evidence(s). The world is waiting.

Apr 20, 2019
I understand your respect for Lerner's lab work.


I don't.

Apr 20, 2019
I already pointed that aspect out to you before, mate.

And I already pointed out you are very wrong. If you decided to open your eyes you would clearly see that those structures are being created in space by the plasma and EM fields, just as Alfvén, Falthammar, Peratt, and Lerner etc. have stated for decades now.
the overwhelming majority of which have NO such 'pattern' because they are not exploding/interacting stars/binaries and so do not produce such 'patterns'.

They are not exploding and revealing such patterns because the current density is not high enough. Both phenomena are possible once the current density threshold is reached. The star that causes the supernova stores and builds the energy until the plasma can no longer absorb the energy at which point it releases the energy explosively.
There is the other obvious notion, we don't have the same perspective to every nebula. And just as with snowflakes, there no two nebula exactly alike.

Apr 20, 2019
However, the BEST lab to experiment in - is OUT THERE IN THE INTERSTELLAR Space itself.

It is largely beyond the reach of human grasp, we are decades if not centuries away from in situ interstellar space experiments. However, what space based plasma experiments have been done conform to the predictions of Plasma Cosmology. The reason being is a foundational premise of of PC is plasma will behave as plasma does, modeling and experiments agree with this premise.
The biggest misconceived bias in science today is that maths fantasies always equate to reality, and that it's a good idea to only teach a single theory to the astrophysicists.

Apr 20, 2019
So where's all the energy from the black spot in the middle of the picture? It's a black spot, nothing coming out of it. Where are all the other plasmoids that were created from this mystical unicorn fountain of energy? There aren't any.

You're fulla shit.

Apr 20, 2019
@CD85
I have found this site that looked interesting. It has Anthony L. Peratt's name and disavows any ties to the Electric Universe sites. Have you seen this?

http://www.plasmauniverse.info

Apr 21, 2019
@cantdrive85.
The star that causes the supernova stores and builds the energy until the plasma can no longer absorb the energy at which point it releases the energy explosively.
That's illogical, mate. The star's mass and its age/fuel-depletion determines whether the star dies/explodes because its fusion energy rate can no longer support its weight against gravity and goes nova/supernova as already understood. If it was as you say, then all stars can die at ANY time/stage in their lives IF your alleged 'energy buildup' was via incoming/outgoing 'electric current' in that part of space occupied by any star/binary. That is obviously not so; because otherwise practically all stars/binaries would have died/exploded by now.
There is the other obvious notion, we don't have the same perspective to every nebula. And just as with snowflakes, there no two nebula exactly alike.
Non-sequitur. We observe similar morphology of stellar polar ejecta from many perspectives. :)

Apr 21, 2019
Cantdrive

It is time
to
bring your plasmatic theories
kicking and screaming
into
this plasmatic universe
this
plasmatic vacuum, Cantdrive
gone are those days
those lazy hazy days of crack of bat on mole in those buttercup meadows, Cantdrive
no longer do you run carefree through those meadows
those days are gone, Cantdrive
gone with this Spartan exterior never to return, Cantdrive
so, Cantdrive
embrace this new and embrace this Plasmatic vacuum
incorporate those theories you honed in those whacker mole days of yore, Cantdrive
into this plasmatic Universe we all inhabit
so,
as you Cantdrive, drift into obscurity and oblivion
Your memories lie in those whacker mole lazy hazy days of yore, Cantdrive

Or Embrace this Spartan Anew in this Plasmatic Universe!

Apr 21, 2019
They are not exploding and revealing such patterns because the current density is not high enough. Both phenomena are possible once the current density threshold is reached. The star that causes the supernova stores and builds the energy until the plasma can no longer absorb the energy at which point it releases the energy explosively.
There is the other obvious notion, we don't have the same perspective to every nebula. And just as with snowflakes, there no two nebula exactly alike.


What a load of already debunked nonsense. Nobody believes crap like that.

Apr 21, 2019
The biggest misconceived bias in science today is that maths fantasies always equate to reality, and that it's a good idea to only teach a single theory to the astrophysicists.


Why would you teach what was already a fringe theory when it was suggested, and has since been debunked, to astrophysicists? Experiment and observation is fine. However, when such things reveal that magnetic reconnection is a reality, for instance, you lot scream that it doesn't exist! That is not science. It is a belief system.

Apr 21, 2019
Totally unreal. What "single theory?" And here we are with the "no math" bullshit again. How do you balance your checkbook?

Apr 21, 2019
That's illogical, mate. The star's mass and its age/fuel-depletion determines whether the star dies/explodes because its fusion energy rate can no longer support its weight against gravity and goes nova/supernova as already understood.

That is the standard guesswork faerie tale, not "understood" in anything other than speculation.
If it was as you say, then all stars can die at ANY time/stage in their lives

You're still applying your neo-standard guesswork nonsense to this situation. To properly address any alternative paradigm one must strip away all of the previously held assumptions and conclusions and approach it from the relevant framework.
That is obviously not so; because otherwise practically all stars/binaries would have died/exploded by now.

And once again you are applying your own incorrect preconceived notions to claim something to be "obviously not so". Needless to say your conclusions are also incorrect.

Apr 21, 2019
That's illogical, mate. The star's mass and its age/fuel-depletion determines whether the star dies/explodes because its fusion energy rate can no longer support its weight against gravity and goes nova/supernova as already understood.

That is the standard guesswork faerie tale, not "understood" in anything other than speculation.
If it was as you say, then all stars can die at ANY time/stage in their lives

You're still applying your neo-standard guesswork nonsense to this situation. To properly address any alternative paradigm one must strip away all of the previously held assumptions and conclusions and approach it from the relevant framework.
That is obviously not so; because otherwise practically all stars/binaries would have died/exploded by now.

And once again you are applying your own incorrect preconceived notions to claim something to be "obviously not so". Needless to say your conclusions are also incorrect.


More pointless word salad.

Apr 21, 2019
That is the standard guesswork faerie tale, not "understood" in anything other than speculation.
If it was as you say, then all stars can die at ANY time/stage in their lives


Nope, it is observed. And I see no alternative being offered in the scientific literature. And anything outside the scientific literature that makes any scientific sense, nor has any valid mechanism, nor any supporting evidence. Why should we listen to anything you have to say?

Apr 21, 2019
@CD85
I have found this site that looked interesting. It has Anthony L. Peratt's name and disavows any ties to the Electric Universe sites. Have you seen this?

http://www.plasmauniverse.info

Peratt did not apply that statement to his website by choice, people like jonesdumb and his ilk at LANL forced it upon Peratt to continue to host his site on the LANL servers.
Besides, the physics of Plasma Cosmology is identical to the physics of the Electric Universe Cosmology.

Apr 21, 2019
Peratt did not apply that statement to his website by choice, people like jonesdumb and his ilk at LANL forced it upon Peratt to continue to host his site on the LANL servers.
Besides, the physics of Plasma Cosmology is identical to the physics of the Electric Universe Cosmology.


Nope, that is another lie. Peratt said even worse things about them in the preface to the 2nd edition of PotPU. So quit with the lying, woo boy.

Apr 21, 2019
Peratt did not apply that statement to his website by choice, people like jonesdumb and his ilk at LANL forced it upon Peratt to continue to host his site on the LANL servers.
Besides, the physics of Plasma Cosmology is identical to the physics of the Electric Universe Cosmology.


Nope, that is another lie. Peratt said even worse things about them in the preface to the 2nd edition of PotPU. So quit with the lying, woo boy.

Apr 21, 2019
@CD85
Peratt did not apply that statement to his website by choice, people like jonesdumb and his ilk at LANL forced it upon Peratt to continue to host his site on the LANL servers.
Besides, the physics of Plasma Cosmology is identical to the physics of the Electric Universe Cosmology.


Nope, that is another lie. Peratt said even worse things about them in the preface to the 2nd edition of PotPU. So quit with the lying, woo boy.


You have made a post copying Castrovagina's comment word-for-word and did not add any of your own explanation/refutation to it. This is not like you and I hope to see you give a cogent and better presentation of your evidence(s) based on good science.

In another phorum, I had asked you if FRICTION between particles has anything to do with the generation of electric currents, and thus, magnetic fields in interstellar space. I don't believe that you paid much mind to the query.

Apr 21, 2019
@cantdrive85.

Mate, I'm extremely disappointed in you. You've defaulted to doing exactly what you long complained that others did against you; ie, you just replied with denials and assertions while completely avoiding scientifically addressing/refuting the logics/physics counterarguments I posted in reply to your relevant assertions/claims in this matter. Please either address/answer properly and scientifically the logics/physics points I made to you; else you will be seen to justify @jonesy's and others' past assessment of yourself and your claims. Thanks. :)

Apr 21, 2019
RealityCheck, your slow on the uptake
@cantdrive85.
Mate, I'm extremely disappointed in you. You've defaulted to doing exactly what you long complained that others did against you; ie, you just replied with denials and assertions while completely avoiding scientifically addressing/refuting the logics/physics counterarguments I posted in reply to your relevant assertions/claims in this matter. Please either address/answer properly and scientifically the logics/physics points I made to you; else you will be seen to justify @jonesy's and others' past assessment of yourself and your claims. Thanks. :)

RealityCheck, why the sudden concern
old Cantdrive has been
strangely evasive of late
not being as open
to
textual indirect questions
to accessorizing
with standard plasmatic theory
implying
Cant is likened to Georges Lemaitre
without that rare privilege of the being
ordained in this priest hood
RealityCheck, old bean

Apr 21, 2019
SEU, you are also experiencing that which RealityCheck is experiencing
@CD85
You have made a post copying Castrovagina's comment word-for-word and did not add any of your own explanation/refutation to it. This is not like you and I hope to see you give a cogent and better presentation of your evidence(s) based on good science.

In another phorum, I had asked you if FRICTION between particles has anything to do with the generation of electric currents, and thus, magnetic fields in interstellar space. I don't believe that you paid much mind to the query.

SEU, Cantdrive is of the old school
an old dog
unwilling to embrace this Spartan Anew
retaining those lazy hazy days running free in those buttercup fields
forever
trying to retain that indefinable feeling that is sadly lost in time
that
is why SEU, Cantdrive appears unresponsive
forever living those whacker mole days of yore
SEU

Apr 22, 2019
In another phorum, I had asked you if FRICTION between particles has anything to do with the generation of electric currents, and thus, magnetic fields in interstellar space. I don't believe that you paid much mind to the query.

And I pointed out it is not friction, but the electromotive force. Read these papers, it will give you a basis to potentially understand the proposals offered by Plasma Cosmology.

https://plasmauni...ers.html

Apr 22, 2019

SEU, Cantdrive is of the old school
an old dog
unwilling to embrace this Spartan Anew
retaining those lazy hazy days running free in those buttercup fields
forever
trying to retain that indefinable feeling that is sadly lost in time
that
is why SEU, Cantdrive appears unresponsive
forever living those whacker mole days of yore
SEU

Not so old school that I am retired like most in these threads, as such I bounce in to and fro when the opportunity presents itself.

Apr 23, 2019
congrats hubble

Apr 23, 2019
And I pointed out it is not friction, but the electromotive force. Read these papers, it will give you a basis to potentially understand the proposals offered by Plasma Cosmology.

https://plasmauni...ers.html


Plasma cosmology is long since dead.

Apr 23, 2019
And I pointed out it is not friction, but the electromotive force. Read these papers, it will give you a basis to potentially understand the proposals offered by Plasma Cosmology.

https://plasmauni...ers.html


Plasma cosmology is long since dead.

You keep thinking that, almost dead guy.

Apr 23, 2019
Still waiting to find out how you balance your checkbook with no math. And where all the energy is coming from. And where all the other plasmoids are.

Apr 23, 2019
And I pointed out it is not friction, but the electromotive force. Read these papers, it will give you a basis to potentially understand the proposals offered by Plasma Cosmology.

https://plasmauni...ers.html


Plasma cosmology is long since dead.

"A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it."
― Max Planck

jonesdumb, and da schnied for that matter, are dead guys walking.

Apr 23, 2019



Plasma cosmology is long since dead.

You keep thinking that, almost dead guy.


I don't need to think it - I know it. Tell me, which currently active geniuses are still pushing this stuff in the scientific literature?

Apr 23, 2019

"A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it."
― Max Planck

jonesdumb, and da schnied for that matter, are dead guys walking.


Lol. The PC promoters are the one's who are aging. They'll be dead soon enough. Where are the younger scientists to replace them? There aren't any, as far as I can see.

Apr 23, 2019
jonesdumb, and da schnied for that matter, are dead guys walking.
You mean other than the picture of the black hole in M87?

Not to mention your error by 240,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.000,000,000,000,000?

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