Police officers speak less respectfully to black residents than to white residents: study

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The first systematic analysis of police body camera footage shows that officers consistently use less respectful language with black community members than with white community members, according to new Stanford research.

Although they are subtle, these widespread racial disparities in officers' use may erode police-community relations, said the researchers who conducted the study, published June 5 in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

"Our findings highlight that, on the whole, police interactions with black are more fraught than their interactions with white community members," explained Jennifer Eberhardt, co-author of the study and professor of psychology at Stanford.

The racial disparities in respectful speech remained even after the researchers controlled for the race of the officer, the severity of the infraction, and the location and outcome of the stop.

To analyze the body camera , a multidisciplinary team from Stanford's psychology, linguistics and computer science departments first developed a new artificial intelligence technique for measuring levels of respect in officers' language. They then applied this technique to the transcripts from 981 traffic stops the Oakland Police Department (OPD) made in a single month.

The researchers' novel technique demonstrated that white residents were 57 percent more likely than black residents to hear a police officer say the most respectful utterances, such as apologies and expressions of gratitude like "thank you." Meanwhile, black community members were 61 percent more likely than white residents to hear an officer say the least respectful utterances, such as informal titles like "dude" and "bro" and commands like "hands on the wheel."

"To be clear: There was no swearing," said Dan Jurafsky, a study co-author and Stanford professor of linguistics and of computer science. "These were well-behaved officers. But the many small differences in how they spoke with community members added up to pervasive racial disparities."

"The fact that we now have the technology and methods to show these patterns is a huge advance for behavioral science, computer science and the policing industry," said Rob Voigt, a Stanford linguistics doctoral student and lead author of the study. "Police departments can use these tools not only to diagnose problems in police-community relations but also to develop solutions."

Video footage as data, not evidence

The study is not the first time Eberhardt has collaborated with the OPD to study possible racial disparities in policing. In 2014, the City of Oakland contracted with Eberhardt and her team to assist the Oakland Police Department in complying with a federal order to collect and analyze data from traffic and pedestrian stops by race.

OPD, like many nationwide, has been using body-worn cameras to monitor police-community interactions. But drawing accurate conclusions from hundreds of hours of footage is challenging, Eberhardt said. Just "cherry-picking" negative or positive episodes, for example, can lead to inaccurate impressions of police-community relations overall, she said.

"The police are already wary of footage being used against them," Eberhardt said. "At the same time, many departments want their actions to be transparent to the public."

To satisfy demands for both privacy and transparency, the researchers needed a way to approach the footage as data showing general patterns, rather than as evidence revealing wrongdoing in any single stop.

Yet "researchers can't just sit and watch every single stop," Eberhardt explained. "It would take too long. Besides, their own biases could affect their judgments of the interactions."

New methodology for analyzing footage

To explore police-community interactions in the aggregate, Eberhardt concentrated on the language extracted from the audio of the footage as the technologies for analyzing videos are limited.

She sought out Jurafsky, an expert in using computers as a tool for understanding human language. Because the policing industry considers "offering respect" an important way to achieve harmonious police-community relations, Eberhardt and Jurafsky decided to study the level of respect in officers' language. In particular, they set out to explore whether officers speak more or less respectfully to people of different races.

Together, Eberhardt, Jurafsky and seven other colleagues examined transcripts from 183 hours of body camera footage from 981 stops, which 245 different OPD officers conducted in April 2014.

In the first phase of the study, human participants examined a subsample of the transcribed conversations between officers and community members—without knowing the race or gender of either—and rated how respectful, polite, friendly, formal and impartial the officers' language was.

In the second phase, the researchers used these ratings to develop a computational linguistic model of how speakers show respect, including apologizing, softening commands and expressing concern for listeners' well-being. They then created software that automatically identified these words, phrases and linguistic patterns in the transcripts of the officers' language.

In the third phase, the researchers used this software to analyze the remaining transcripts—a total of 36,000 officer utterances with 483,966 words. Because the team had so much data, they could statistically account for the race of the officer, the severity of the offense and other factors that could affect officers' language.

"Understanding and improving the interactions between the police and the communities they serve is incredibly important, but the interactions can be difficult to study," Jurafsky said. "Computational linguistics offers a way to aggregate across many speakers and many interactions to detect the way that everyday language can reflect our attitudes, thoughts and emotions - which are sometimes outside of our own awareness."

"Our findings are not proof of bias or wrongdoing on the part of individual officers," Eberhardt cautioned. "Many factors could drive in respectful speech."

Footage for improvement

The research team is currently extending their work to analyze the language used by community members during the traffic stops and to study other linguistic features captured by the body cameras, including tone of voice. They also plan to explore the interplay of officers' and community members' speech as it unfolds over time.

"There is so much you can do with this footage," Eberhardt said. "We are very excited about the possibilities."

Eberhardt praised the City of Oakland and OPD for being open to having their data examined, and said she hopes that other departments across the country will invite similar collaborations.

"I'm hopeful that, with the development of computational tools like ours, more law enforcement agencies will approach their body camera footage as data for understanding, rather than as evidence for blaming or exonerating," Eberhardt said. "Together, researchers and police departments can use these tools to improve police-community relations."


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Jun 05, 2017
Was there anything in the above article that indicated which races spoke most respectfully to police officers?
Not that that should make a difference to super human police officers.

Jun 05, 2017
Since scientists are generalizing, I can wonder if this is because black residents speak less respectfully to other black residents? Or to cops?

Generally speaking that is?

Culture IS a thing isnt it?

Jun 05, 2017
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Jun 05, 2017
Agree with all of the comments above. Good questions asked.

The only way we will solve the "Black" problem in the US is for the blacks to stop playing the victim card. Show respect, and you will get it.


Jun 05, 2017
The Ebonic sounds way more vulgar and it doesn't provoke cultivated response.


wut dID Chuuu saaYY MotHerF**keR??

BetTUH WatChh Wut U SAyIN!!

http://englishtoghetto.com/

Jun 05, 2017
Every previous commenter has decided to blame the victim. Fully equivalent to "she deserved to be raped because of the way she was dressed."

Jun 05, 2017
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Jun 05, 2017
One thing that everyone needs to do is follow 'every' instruction given by the Police and not to make any sudden movement because whatever the situation might be, the street is not the place to plead your case; if the Police is wrong.. you can exact a pound of flesh with a lawsuit afterwards and if you are guilty of something then there's nothing really to object to.

Jun 05, 2017
All 4 of these comments posted so far are blaming the victims: Black people. How many of you are White? All of you?

Police officers aren't "super human", but they are trained to exercise their exceptional power (state monopoly on force) equally regardless of race. It doesn't matter whether the people they're talking with are speaking respectfully to them or not. Their job is to remain professional. If they can't do that, they cannot remain police officers with that exceptional power.

And according to this study they are not remaining professional.

Jun 06, 2017
Here's a small sampling of the kind of targeted influence that shapes the culture

"Fuck the Police" [N.W.A., 1988]

"A young nigga on the warpath

And when I'm finished, it's gonna be a bloodbath

Of cops, dying in L.A.

Yo Dre, I got something to say"
http://www.newsbu...ice-raps

This has been going on for a long time. You might ask what is cause and what is effect?

What would cause a trayvon Martin to jump a 'cracker' just because he was following him? And what would cause a 13yo kid to point a pellet gun at cops in a park who were pointing real guns at him?

And what would cause a Michael Brown to charge a cop whose gun he had already tried to grab?

But most importantly why would the media uniformly spin these events to make cops look bad, and the idiots who cause them look good?

And in light of this why would anyone trust what this same media have to say about other related issues?

Jun 06, 2017
Was there anything in the above article that indicated which races spoke most respectfully to police officers?

No, but there was in Science magazine's reporting on the same research:
Those discrepancies can't ... be attributed to the behavior of the drivers, as ratings showed discrepancies even accounting for what the driver had just said, and discrepancies appeared even in the first moments of an interaction.

http://www.scienc...-drivers

Jun 06, 2017
Every previous commenter has decided to blame the victim. Fully equivalent to "she deserved to be raped because of the way she was dressed."
Every previous commenter apparently lives in the US and gets to see both sides of these issues. YOU DON'T.

People here have the chance to see the full story. They understand that the incredible flood of media lies is entirely political in nature.

The question is why people elsewhere wouldn't begin to suspect what they are hearing and reading when it's obviously so very phony, so contrived?

Have euros ever fallen for this sort of manipulation before?

Could part of the reason be that for centuries the free thinkers in Europe were compelled to emigrate, leaving behind subjects who were more willing to suffer and to blame others for their misery?

Jun 06, 2017
TheGhostofOtto1923:
Here's a small


Those are good questions about why would (some) Black people be extremely defensive in response to aggression, especially by White people. What's the history that Black people cannot ignore?

It's centuries of abuse of Black people, with impunity for the abusers. As you mention, Trayvon Martin is a pretty good example: After centuries of people abusing Black people, especially young males, Martin knew a threat when it followed him around alone at night. Zimmerman knew he could get into a fight he couldn't win without shooting, so he did. Zimmerman got away with it under Florida's law he learned about while getting gun training.

Those are bigger reasons than some music that is itself in response to the actual causes. There is a self-reinforcing cycle, but the place to break it is where people's aggression on Black people goes unpunished.

Or else we can blame the victims, as you do, and perpetuate it for more centuries.

Jun 06, 2017
As I mentioned before, I'm black or more formally, Afro-American.
The problem lies on both sides for assuming the wrong things. My experience with law officers has been mostly nonthreatening but for the few times they assume the wrong things, like drug trafficking. My last one was in Wisconsin, for at the limit speeding, officer was polite and respectful, as was I, and I received a warning only.

Jun 06, 2017
gculpex:
As I mentioned before


Well, your experience is evidently significantly better than the average Afro-American's, as this study shows. I'm glad that's true for you.

The police are the ones with training and exceptional power. They are the ones not free to say whatever they want (excepting the obvious limits to free speech for threats). That Black community members are 61% more likely than White ones to be spoken to disrespectfully by police shows police have a significant problem respecting the communities they're assigned to protect.

Jun 06, 2017
Thinking about this, reminds me of how I used to laugh in secret at people in the south for the way they spoke.
All this just because of some kind of difference...

Jun 06, 2017
Racism and sexism are real. If you want to know how real they are consider the election of the most corrupt person ever as President of the US over his opponent because the propaganda said she was corrupt.

I have no idea what the bulk of the people who elected this asshole think they're going to get, but every analysis of every move this POS has made says they're going to get screwed and love it because they're stupid. I really don't know what else to say. If you don't believe it watch them make your air traffic control private and less safe.

Jun 06, 2017
I mean seriously, is there anyone who thinks the US private healthcare industry has made us safer?

C'mon, bring it.

Jun 06, 2017
"Racism and sexism are real. If you want to know how real they are consider the election of the most corrupt person ever as President of the US over his opponent because the propaganda said she was corrupt. "

DS this last statement proves that you have ZERO credibility. Your political bias taints your view of plain facts to the point that nothing that you say could ever be meaningful.

Jun 06, 2017
MR166:
DS this last


Only in your bizarro world, where everything is wrong. Trump is taking bribes directly through his private businesses from many people, orgs and countries the world over. Even more bribes through his family's businesses. Every few weeks more of his corruption is uncovered - this week it's his kid's cancer charity. Before that though it was his own fake charities. His fake university he had to pay $25M to settle. His money laundering. Corruption - epic corruption.

And you are part of it, by publicly denying it so he can get away with it.

Jun 06, 2017
Corruption - epic corruption.

Only in your own bizzaro world has anything changed whatsoever from 8 months ago, or would be different if the devil bitch had won. Epic corruption is what has driven this country since the 16th Amendment and the creation of the Federal Reserve Banking System.
And you are part of it, by publicly denying it so they can get away with it.

Jun 06, 2017
cantdrive85:
Only


Now the rightwing trolls fall back on their most cowardly fallacy: false equivalence.

Hillary Clinton was investigated by the most partisan enemies in history for 25 years. From Whitewater to the Clinton Foundation these vultures found nothing but their own hype. Which their Russian cronies (and patrons, and now masters) pumped at the electorate through endless fake news echo chambers, led by Murdoch/Ailes' Fakes News itself. NOTHING. NOTHING.

Jun 07, 2017
Hillary collected close to 1 billion dollars for the Clinton Foundation from various countries while she was Secretary of State. After she lost the election they disbanded the foundation. I see that none of you have the slightest problem with that.

Jun 07, 2017
Cantdrive85 I agree that the bankers are the puppet masters of the western governments. I also think that Trump is more independent than Hillary when it comes to their interests. Is Trump perfect, no, but he is a lot better than Hillary. Although I disagree with socialism, Bernie Sanders would have been a far superior choice over Hillary. He might have even won. I considered him to be a lot more honest than Hillary.

Oh, BTW the Seth Richards case is far from over.

Jun 07, 2017
This is going to be funny:
http://www.foxnew...der.html

He is pitting the renewable people against the no borders people.

Jun 07, 2017
MR166:
Hillary


There is no evidence whatsoever that she did anything corrupt for those contributions. Despite you Trumpy Republicans scouring the world and her every move for it. So she managed to run the State Department and a global charity at the same time without corruption.

Your traitorous candidate spent the campaign paying gigantic fines for running corrupt charities and businesses, and all of his time in office taking huge bribes from foreigners through his businesses he lied about getting out of.

Yes, after spending 4 years running for president only to see lunatics like you put Trump in charge, Clinton is taking a vacation because she is not president. Trump has been taking a vacation because he is president. Those are not equivalent, they are opposites.

Jun 07, 2017
MR166:
This


You are applauding the president for dividing the country. You are a traitor along with him.

Jun 07, 2017
He in not dividing the whole country only the left against itself. Pretty funny stuff.

Jun 07, 2017
Here's an interesting reciprocal
http://www.philly...jection/

-trending on social media at the moment. So much to learn:
The general attitude of media liberals toward authority
The speculation on what officers routinely have to deal with from whites as well as blacks
The consequences when a person like this actually gets caught (makes you smile :))

Jun 07, 2017
Thanks for that Otto. She could be a poster child for the left.

Jun 07, 2017
MR166:
He in not


63 million people voted against him, 3 million more than voted for him. His disapproval rating is at 58%. He is dividing the country in ways big and small. And you cheer for it because you are a traitor like he is.

Jun 07, 2017
TheGhostofOtto1923:
Here's


So an asshole kicked out of a bar is "the general attitude of media liberals toward authority". Of course there were hundreds, perhaps thousands of assholes kicked out of bars railing at the authorities doing so that night. The actual statistics (ie. the accurate truth) of their distribution in ideological space is unknown.

You're sacrificing your reputation for scientific integrity on the altar of hating what you imagine liberals to be.

Jun 07, 2017
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/06/body-cams-reveal-us-police-use-less-respectful-language-black-drivers


"The language officers used with blacks was not "really disrespectful," she says. It was just less respectful. One example on the low end: "All right, my man. Do me a favor. Just keep your hands on the steering wheel real quick." On the high end: "There you go, ma'am. Drive safe, please.""

I doubt they are accounting for the crime rate of the neighborhoods they are working in where requesting a driver keep their hands on the wheel would simply be a practical safety measure and not deemed "disrespectful". We really are obsessed with labels and differences.

Jun 07, 2017
I wonder if this is really so much a sign of disrespect rather than police officers judiciously using slang that the target is more receptive to (i.e. which is more deescalating).

I'd imagine that a homie would be more at ease with someone calling him 'bro' (in a non-offesnive manner) than someone calling him 'sir' (which might be taken in a negative/ironic way) - and some random white due would respond more favorably to 'sir' rather than 'bro'.

Jun 07, 2017
" 3 million more than voted for him" Next you are going to into the liberal tirade of how the electoral college system is so unfair.

Jun 07, 2017
Here is a little item of interest. Holder was forcing companies to donate to approved groups in order to avoid prosecution.

http://www.foxnew...ups.html

Jun 07, 2017
MR166:
" 3 million


Oh, those liberals who think the president should be elected by a majority of voters, not by grading Republicans on a curve. Democracy, what a concept.

Jun 07, 2017
MR166:
Here is


Now we have the spectacle of Republicans like you insisting it's better that criminals orgs like Bank of America give money to the government to redistribute rather than giving it to private companies that specialize in fixing what the criminals broke.

But hey, Republicans like you strongly back the Federal government working with the Russian government against millions of Americans in creating that government. So why shouldn't Republicans like you prefer the Putin model for the "Justice" Department.

Jun 07, 2017
"Oh, those liberals who think the president should be elected by a majority of voters, not by grading Republicans on a curve. Democracy, what a concept."

The founding fathers created the electoral college system so the the WHOLE nation and it's differing viewpoints could elect a president. They did not want to have just a few major cities deciding the election. Under your system the whole middle of the US would have virtually no say in the election. BTW look out when you ask for a change, you might actually get it. Remember the "nuclear option" that the democrats pushed through in the senate.

Jun 07, 2017
Oh what a hoot! The girl that was cursing out the Philly cop was a TV reporter. Yea, the liberal media is not biased.

Jun 07, 2017
MR166:
The founding


The Electoral College was a the same kind of anti-democratic holdover that the Senate itself was, including the Senate election by state legislatures rather than by the people. It has perpetuated the anti-democratic weighting of people from largely deserted states to have more powerful votes than other citizens who live in more popular places.

A voter in Wyoming gets 2.41268144 times the number of votes a voter in California gets. Even each of the 5 million rural Californians have only 42% the voting power of each of the 230,000 people in Wyoming. This is literally anti-democratic.

The whole middle of the US would have the same say as everyone else: one vote per person. You are arguing for special privileges for people who live in places (with their local governments) most people don't want to live. I am arguing for equality. This shouldn't even be an argument in a democracy.

Jun 07, 2017
It's interesting that they've implicitly admitted the target of policing with their academy training. "Stop, PO-lice". We take "PO-lice" as being black, instead of "pul-LEECE". Which is what white people say. But the officers are worried that "pul-LEECE", sounds like "pul-LEEZE", and they don't want to be heard as saying, "Please stop", so they invented the accent on the first syllable. Which has been taken as ebonics now. But that just goes to show who they're thinking about.

Jun 07, 2017
I wonder if this is really so much a sign of disrespect rather than police officers judiciously using slang that the target is more receptive to (i.e. which is more deescalating).

I'd imagine that a homie would be more at ease with someone calling him 'bro' (in a non-offesnive manner) than someone calling him 'sir' (which might be taken in a negative/ironic way) - and some random white due would respond more favorably to 'sir' rather than 'bro'.

Actually a really good point, AA. Contextuality is culturally fluid.

Jun 08, 2017
Oh what a hoot! The girl that was cursing out the Philly cop was a TV reporter. Yea, the liberal media is not biased
Compare that vid with a somewhat more notorious one
https://youtu.be/jpSEemvwOn4

- of a black woman who later hung herself in jail. Most news outlets only show it from a point after the yelling started.

This is how they have spun the narrative.

Jun 08, 2017
"This is how they have spun the narrative."

Much of the bias in news reporting is created by the stuff that is left out that does not fit the narrative that they wish to portray.

Jun 08, 2017
"This is how they have spun the narrative."

Much of the bias in news reporting is created by the stuff that is left out that does not fit the narrative that they wish to portray.
And in related news... Comey leaked his classified memo to his university friend. Comey, who was in charge of finding the white house leakers.

CNN headline today?

"Comey testimony summary: Couldn't trust Trump"
https://www.youtu...2tfoCmuQ

Jun 08, 2017
TheGhostofOtto1923:
CNN headline today?


Yes, Comey leaked his memo of the meeting with Trump where Trump tried to stop Comey's FBI from investigating Flynn, Trump's crooked (actually treasonous) NSA appointee. Leaked it after Trump fired him for not stopping the Flynn investigation.

The memo was not classified, Comey was not an official, and the "leak" responded to Trump's public challenge implying there were recordings. Comey leaked to spur appointment of a special prosecutor since Trump would appoint his FBI replacement. The leak succeeded, so there is a possibility of justice being done.

And your takeaway from that is the leak. Not the justice obstruction, or the White House treason it hides.

For someone who typically applies good analysis to material phenomena you are extremely gullible when it comes to swallowing media narratives of people's behavior. When they're rightwing narratives.

Jun 09, 2017
Comey leaked to spur appointment of a special prosecutor since Trump would appoint his FBI replacement.

Comey admitted that Lynch pressured him to change the narrative on Hillary. Did you have any problem with that?

Did you or Comey have any problem with no special prosecutor being named by Holder for:
1) Fast & Furious, where untracked guns were shipped to Mexican cartels so Obama could use the hundreds of resulting deaths to push gun control and where Holder lied to Congress and was cited for contempt (and no, it was NOT Bush's program)?
2) Benghazi, where Obama's entire staff was told to lie about some schmuck doing a video nobody saw so it wouldn't hurt his re-Coronation?
3) Where the IRS stopped the Tea Party momentum in its tracks and intimidated their donors with audits and EPA and FBI visits just in time for the 2012 election (far bigger abuse of power than anything Nixon ever did)?

You didn't? What a surprise!

All "investigated" by Comey, too.


Jun 09, 2017
"All "investigated" by Comey, too."

GREAT POINT!!!!!

Jun 09, 2017
The police lie whenever they are challenged, and they lie in front of courts and in front of juries, without shame and without honor. When they are caught they use every legal maneuver they can to support their lies, without shame and without honor. The courts support them, without shame and without honor, and the ignorant citizens who can't believe they have no shame and no honor give them a pass. The Founders of the US never believed that citizens and judges would give them more credence than anyone else, and as a result they are permitted to tell these lies without challenge.

It is a national disgrace of the US. It's time for the police to be held to the same standards as any citizen. They aren't better than the rest of us; in fact they're worse, otherwise they wouldn't seek the power of police, and this is proven in the news every day. Jurors should never admit this at selection time, and should always keep it in mind when it comes time to judge them.

Jun 09, 2017
The bar for police should be higher than for citizens, not lower, and the fact they are held to a lower standard than others is a national disgrace for the US and just as bad if not worse for other countries.

When you see a police on the witness stand, you should start by assuming they are lying and that it is up to them to prove they're not. It is in their interest to lie and they do so under color of authority, which is worse than doing it as a citizen and with no more hesitation than anyone else. They don't care if they've actually caught the right person, they just want a conviction, and they'll do anything to get it whether the accused is guilty or not.

It was the intent of the Founders of the US that you should believe this and enforce it. If you do not you are betraying your country.

Jun 10, 2017
An unwillingness to police themselves is the problem.
Sometime over the last 40/50 years, police have become the "gang" they were hired to protect us from... Because they shun any oversight.
And it's all about money...


Jun 10, 2017
DS and WG since the police are the first line of enforcement of the rules and regulation any dishonesty is magnified 10x in comparison to you or I. In the vast majority of cases their testimony is 100% correct. The big exception to this rule is when they are testifying to the illegal actions of another officer. Thankfully this is a rather rare occurrence and most jurisdictions have an internal affairs division to investigate the most gregarious cases. Also there is a big difference between policing in the inner cities and the rest of the nation. When you are dealing with street gangs and violent citizens I can understand how one could become more hardened and disrespectful of peoples rights. That is not justification of improper actions but I see how it can happen.

Jun 10, 2017
Today in the US the biggest abuse of governmental power are the civil forfeiture laws. Police are empowered to seize cash and property on the smallest of suspicions. It is then up to you to prove that it was not involved in illicit activities. This is the exact opposite of innocent until proven guilty. But this is a problem with crooked government not the police.

Jun 10, 2017
geokstr:
you or Comey have any problem with no special prosecutor being named by Holder for: Fast & Furious [...] Benghazi [...] IRS stopped the Tea Party


Comey did have a problem with all those, subjected them to investigations. None of those presented any evidence that required a special prosecutor. None caused enough damage to worry about. Especially Benghazi where the partisan witch hunt came up with nothing, and the IRS which stopped the rightwingers' fraudulent business model the left didn't employ.

None of them presented evidence that the president, his Cabinet members, leaders of his transition team and other partisan officials treasonously colluded with the Russian government to damage the democracy and hugely reward the Russians, enabling Russia's enemy actions on the US.

You are worked up about investigations into relatively small problems to use them to ignore an existential threat to the US. You will not acknowledge any of that. Because you are a troll.

Jun 10, 2017
"gregarious" Oops that was supposed to read egregious.

Jun 10, 2017
DS and WG since the police are the first line of enforcement of the rules and regulation any dishonesty is magnified 10x in comparison to you or I.

The hot spotlight on inner city transgressions makes room for more devious actions by a small cadre of "opportunistic" cops elsewhere. Court time is easy money when it's not you under the microsope.
In the vast majority of cases their testimony is 100% correct.

I would remove the adjective of vast.
When you are dealing with street gangs and violent citizens I can understand how one could become more hardened and disrespectful of peoples rights. That is not justification of improper actions but I see how it can happen.

The "mantle of authority" (backed by financial gain) plays a subtle part in ALL police/civilian interactions. It's a slippery slope.
This is due to the attitude of - "We have to play dirty like the "bad guys" in order to win.
And if an innocent gets caught up in the action? Collateral damage...


Jun 12, 2017
I think PO should institute a rule that you can only vote on a comment if you have made comment in that thread...
Now, to expand on my previous comment;
The practices I have witnessed are only employed by a few officers with a cynical POV of the ideal system.

Jun 12, 2017
When they react more suddenly and harder against their own bad actors call me. Such bad actors are in a position to do far more harm than any civilian can. And they commonly do.

Police your own, and let it be seen. That's the kind of police I respect, and I don't see many.

Jun 12, 2017
Whydening Gyre:
I think PO should institute a rule that you can only vote on a comment if you have made comment in that thread...


That is an excellent requirement. I would even make the Submit button quiz the poster whether a given word was used in the comment, or some other way to test whether they read the comment they vote on.

And of course some kind of "metamoderation" that requires members to rate the voting of other commenters, chosen at random. Either to post their own vote or comment, or sporadically just to retain those privileges. And lose the privileges when rated in say the bottom 20%. That kind of system really cleaned up Slashdot's comments well over a decade ago.

Jun 13, 2017
Emcee,
Just wanna keep it simple... But still fun n friendly (more or less)...
BTW...
Anyone else notice that the "Police" in the above pic is definitely dressed for way more than a traffic stop?
To me that speaks volumes...

Jun 13, 2017
At the very least, I'd like to see comment so I understand the vote determination...

Jun 13, 2017
Whydening Gyre: [q
Anyone else notice that the "Police" in the above pic is definitely dressed for way more than a traffic stop?
To me that speaks volumes...

Or that the cop is practicing shooting at *black* targets, which is typical of cop training targets.

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