Inquiry begins into leaked climate emails in Britain

Feb 11, 2010

An independent investigation began Thursday into leaked emails from a British climate research centre which appeared to show scientists trying to manipulate the data, and sparked a major global row.

More than 1,000 emails and 3,000 other documents were stolen from the server of the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia, leaked online and seized upon by sceptics who said they supported their cause.

In one private email, CRU director Professor Phil Jones referred to a "trick" being employed to massage temperature statistics to "hide the decline", but he insisted the emails had been taken out of context.

The investigation launched Thursday will not look into the actual scientific work of the CRU, but it will examine email exchanges and data "to determine whether there is any evidence of the manipulation or suppression of data".

The affair, dubbed 'climategate' in the British media, caused global waves just weeks before the UN talks on climate change in Copenhagen in December because the CRU is one of the world's leading climate research centres.

Jones has admitted the pressure from the scandal caused him to consider suicide.

He stood aside as director pending the investigation, and although he stands by its research, he revealed in a newspaper interview last week that he had considered killing himself "several times".

He told The Sunday Times he was also receiving death threats, saying: "I was shocked. People said I should go and kill myself. They said that they knew where I lived. They were coming from all over the world."

The University of East Anglia appointed Muir Russell, a senior top civil servant, to head the investigation and will be funding the probe -- although Russell insisted it would be independent.

"They're not influencing the way we're doing this," Russell said at the launch Thursday of the investigation, which is due to last several weeks.

It will look at whether there was evidence of poor scientific practice which could call the research into question, and whether the unit should have better procedures for managing its research and keeping data safe.

Separately, police are investigating the hacking of the university's data.

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GrayMouser
2.6 / 5 (5) Feb 12, 2010
And they already had one member resign over conflict of interest:
http://www.channe.../3536642

It's interesting to see that the panel has, like Penn State, a very narrow remit. This makes it unlikely to reach finding adverse to UEA or the CRU.
jaydee
1.8 / 5 (5) Feb 12, 2010
Every time a panel is convened, the parameters are constructed in such away as to put outside, that which is most worth knowing, In this case they will not look into the actual scientific work of the CRU, IPCC (and perpetual UN scams in general). Phil suffered from allowing his religion to influence his work. I forgive you Phil, and Al Gore too?
mary_hinge
3.7 / 5 (6) Feb 12, 2010
OT but relevant in an ironic sort of way for the snowmaggedon crowd.
Ironic for those convinced of 'Global Cooling' that the winter olympics at Vancouver had to bring in extra snow due to the record breaking warmth there http://www.washin...825.html
lewando
2.4 / 5 (8) Feb 12, 2010
Phil Jones has some issues. Why consider suicide if not guilty of anything? Why worry about death threats if already considering suicide?
mary_hinge
3.2 / 5 (9) Feb 12, 2010
Phil Jones has some issues. Why consider suicide if not guilty of anything? Why worry about death threats if already considering suicide?

If you actually look at what you have written I hope you are full of shame. To trivialise a large number of death threats from extremists says a lot of your state of mind.
This may be a game to you in your fantasy world but for the rest of us in the real world receiving a death threat would be a very distressing.
Skeptic_Heretic
2 / 5 (7) Feb 12, 2010
If you actually look at what you have written I hope you are full of shame. To trivialise a large number of death threats from extremists says a lot of your state of mind.
This may be a game to you in your fantasy world but for the rest of us in the real world receiving a death threat would be a very distressing.

Salman Rushdie never wished his own death.

The innocent never choose to extinguish their own lives over "a miscalculation". Nor do they usually resign from their positions of prestige. There's something going on here, I don't know what it is, but there's something that isn't being said.

And Vancouver didn't bring extra snow in due to warmth, don't be ridiculous. Vancouver is in a maritime climate, a whole 100 miles from Seattle, and currently in the grips of an El Nino.
mary_hinge
5 / 5 (4) Feb 12, 2010
HS- To give me a one star to say it is wrong to trivialise death threats says a lot about your warped state of mind. To deny that the winter Olympic organisers are bringing in extra snow is plain ridiculous. You obviously don't read links other people post, if you did you would see this " They're not plowing snow, they're delivering it, at Cypress mountain outside Vancouver, the venue for freestyle" We also see that you supply links that you say mean one thing when they actually confirm something else.http://www.physor...735.html
I think you have confirmed with your idiotic statements that you are indeed just a pathetic little troll.
mary_hinge
5 / 5 (4) Feb 12, 2010
If you still think they are not bring in snow lets look at the evidence:
http://seattletim...y12.html
http://www.guardi...cks-snow
http://www.realcl...now.html
Also interesting how you jump on El Nino (which incidentally is a much milder event than 1998) yet seem to disregard La Nina when gushing on about global cooling and decadal trends ...hhhmmm
lewando
2.8 / 5 (4) Feb 12, 2010
Sorry, Mary--intent was not to trivialize anything, but to point out that Mr. Jones is acting a little psychotic. Maybe it is organic and he needs treatment. Maybe it is other cause.
Skeptic_Heretic
1.8 / 5 (5) Feb 12, 2010
MH,

At what point in time did I say they were not bringing in snow?

I stated your claim was ridiculous because Vancouver would have had to bring in snow regardless.

And as for death threats, only those who feel guilty or are actually in harms way ever fear death threats. I've endured multiple death threats for my public speaking careers. I've never considered suicide.

It a sign of a weak mind to accept everything that is spoonfed via the dubious mainstream media.
MikeyK
Feb 12, 2010
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jaydee
1.9 / 5 (9) Feb 12, 2010
Stupid is as stupid does...it's OK to to think whatever you want (right?), but when forcing ideology on others, through deception and half truths, THAT'S Unethical, and when money is involved (like this case) a CRIME. ...It's about power, It's about control of people, it's about obtaining a permanent tax stream at the UN to ram more ideological pet beliefs through, it's about manipulation of peoples natural and noble desire to save mother earth, it's about the religion of enviroMENTALism, and the support of scientists who minimize the truth, to obscure, to gloss over, to put on a show for the public instead of doing what used to be common sense. Science has lost it's way, it's for sale and a political, ideological weapon used for profit and control. I applaud those who spoke up in the face of withering criticism and institutional censure. Redeem yourself s oh high priests of knowledge, you have lost your way when you can't cal a spade a spade, the emperor has no clothes (again)
Tortan
4.4 / 5 (7) Feb 12, 2010
I see climate change deniers are still at this website in full force...

*sigh*

Carry on, then.
deatopmg
1.8 / 5 (5) Feb 12, 2010
An independent investigation began Thursday into leaked emails from a British climate research centre which appeared to show scientists trying to manipulate the data, and sparked a major global row."

"...appeared to show..." ???? They still show manipulation and that is what this inquiry is supposed to be about, we are being told by this release.

And where is Jones' et al raw and the altered data? Oh, it got thrown away. Very convenient!

@jaydee - you hit the nail squarely on the head what this AGW scam (not global climate change)is about.
Feldagast
1 / 5 (4) Feb 14, 2010
Last I heard all the planets were warming, I dont deny that earth is warming what I deny is that it is man made or can be man controlled. Destroying all the raw data only implies guilt to me.
mary_hinge
5 / 5 (2) Feb 14, 2010
Last I heard all the planets were warming.....

Intersting claim:
Martian temperature is primarily driven by albedo (dust storms etc.)http://adsabs.har...1D..05R;
Jupiter's heat is internally driven http://adsabs.har...38.3903M
and Uranus is cooling http://www.boulde...anus.pdf
Could you supply references for your claim that the other planets are cooling?
Thankyou.

freethinking
1 / 5 (2) Feb 15, 2010
No global warming for the last 15 years
http://www.dailye...w/158214

THERE has been no global warming for 15 years, a key scientist admitted yesterday in a major U-turn.