Helium rains inside Jovian planets

Jan 26, 2009
As Jupiter and Saturn cool, the interior of the planets will approach temperatures where hydrogen and helium no longer mix. This process, which is likely to have already occurred in Saturn, could lead to the formation of helium droplets that would "rain down" towards the center of the planet and provide an additional source of heat. Illustration by Jonathan DuBois

(PhysOrg.com) -- Models of how Saturn and Jupiter formed may soon take on a different look.

By determining the properties of hydrogen-helium mixtures at the millions of atmospheres of pressure present in the interior of Saturn and Jupiter, physicists at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign have determined the temperature at a given pressure when helium becomes insoluble in dense metallic hydrogen. The results are directly relevant to models of the interior structure and evolution of Jovian planets.

Hydrogen and helium are the two lightest and most common elements in the universe. Because of their ubiquitous nature, they are critical in cosmological nucleosynthesis and are essential elements of stars and giant planets. Hydrogen by itself in the observable universe provides clues to the origin and large-scale structures of galaxies.

However, scientists have struggled to determine what conditions are needed for the two elements to mix.

Using first-principle molecular dynamics simulations, Miguel Morales, a DOE Stewardship Science graduate fellow from David Ceperley’s group at the University of Illinois worked with LLNL’s Eric Schwegler, Sebastien Hamel, Kyle Caspersen and Carlo Pierleoni from the University of L’Aquila in Italy to determine the equation of state of the hydrogen-helium system at extremely high temperatures (4,000-10,000 degrees Kelvin), similar to what would be found in the interior of Saturn and Jupiter.

The team used LLNL’s extensive high-performance computing facilities to conduct simulations over a wide range of density, temperature and composition to locate the equation of state of the two elements.

“Our simulation results are consistent with the idea that a large portion of the interior of Saturn has conditions such that hydrogen and helium phase separate,” Morales said. “This can account for the apparent discrepancy between the current evolutionary models for Saturn and observational data.”

In addition to being made mostly of hydrogen and helium, a characteristic of Jovian planets is that they radiate more energy than they take in from the sun. Various models of their evolution and structure have been developed to describe a relation between the age, volume and mass of the planet and its luminosity.

While this model works for Jupiter by modeling the energy radiation left over from its formation 4.55 billion years ago, it doesn’t exactly work for Saturn. Instead, the model seriously underestimates the current luminosity of Saturn.

So the researchers decided to try something different. They determined where helium and hydrogen mix as well as at what temperature they don’t mix.

It turned out the temperature where the two elements don’t mix is high enough that helium is “partially mixable over a significant fraction of the interior of the Jovian planets with the corresponding region of Saturn being larger than in Jupiter,” Schwegler said. “This, in fact, could change the current interior models of Saturn and Jupiter.”

The new findings appear in the Jan. 26 online edition of the journal, Proceedings of the National Academy of Science.

Provided by Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

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LuckyBrandon
1 / 5 (1) Jan 26, 2009
ah who cares...were just gonna tap them out of both in the future anyways
brant
not rated yet Jan 26, 2009
Cuckcoo, cuckcooo....... What next, Jovian cooks with their flames too high?
Mercury_01
not rated yet Jan 27, 2009
Bet that's refreshing, but i think ll still take an umbrella.
theophys
not rated yet Jan 27, 2009
Neato. I thought we only had bomb awesome rains on Titan and Venus, but now it looks like I'll have to plan a summer trip to the Jovians.
Now, do they mean all the Jovians? Because they only mentioned Jupiter and Saturn.
Honor
not rated yet Jan 27, 2009
the monolith is gona turn it into a star anyways.
LuckyBrandon
1 / 5 (1) Jan 29, 2009
honor-
one hell of an idea...and too much stargate...all at one time :D its my favorite show of all time by far, so I aint knockin ya :)
all in all to do so though, it would turn out easier to make a plasma based artificial sun within earth orbit. you figure you would have to increase the pressure in a jovian planet to meet or exceed the pressure within a star at birth to force the hydrogen to fuse. this would be a bi**h to say the least. I'd say 100-200 years and we can do it though. But even then, the additional gravitational pull of a second star in the solar system would completely rearrange the orbits of all celestial objects, most likely resulting in life ending catastrophic results on all colonized planets at the time. So, we'd need to mess up a different solar system, then terra-form, then move there.
theophys
not rated yet Jan 30, 2009
I don't think you could make a viable star out of a jovian planet without adding a bunch of hydrogen to it. You could try compressinga Jupiter-like planet until hydrogen fuses, but do you realise how dense that would have to be? The result would be more like a fireball than a star. It would go up in a flame the size of teaxas(maybe smaller) and would only last long enough to say "ooh, aah" before it ran out of fuel and exploded.
Props for the stargate fans, though.
searcher
not rated yet Feb 11, 2009
An interesting example of mixture separation. Unfortunately, it occures at such high values of pressure and temperature. And so far away to be of practical value...

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