# Speed matters for ice-shelf breaking

##### Nov 27, 2008

It won't help the Titanic, but a newly derived, simple law may help scientists improve their climate models and glaciologists predict where icebergs will calve off from their parent ice sheets, according to a team of Penn State researchers.

"To predict the future of the ice sheet and to understand the past, we have to put the information into a computer," says Richard B. Alley, the Evan Pugh professor of geosciences. "The models we have do not currently have any way to figure out where the big ice sheets end and where the ice calves off to form icebergs."

Ice sheets, such as those in Antarctica and Greenland, spread under their own weight and flow off land over the oceans. The Ross Ice Shelf in Antarctica floats for as much as 500 miles over the ocean before the edges begin to break and create icebergs. Other ice shelves only edge over the water for a mile or two.

"The problem of when things break is a really hard problem because there is so much variability," says Alley. "Anyone who has dropped a coffee cup knows this. Sometimes the coffee cup breaks and sometimes it bounces."

The coffee cup's breaking depends on what it hits and where it hits, but the most important variable is the distance the cup falls or is thrown. Below a certain distance, the cup will always remain intact, while above a certain distance, it will always break; for in-between distances, the results are variable.

For iceberg calving, the important variable – the one that accounts for the largest portion of when the iceberg breaks -- is the rate at which ice shelves spread, the team reports in today's (Nov. 28) issue of Science. When ice shelves spread, they crack because of the stresses of spreading. If they spread slowly, those cracks do not propagate through the entire shelf and the shelf remains intact. If the shelf spreads rapidly, the cracks propagate through the shelf and pieces break off.

"Spreading explains most of what is observed on the ice sheet," says Alley. "However, the equations come out a little better if we include a few other things."

These factors are the width of the ice shelf and the thickness. With a narrow shelf between two ridges, for example, the sides hold back the ice movement, slowing the overall movement and making it harder to break the ice. Thicker ice shelves spread more quickly so this affects the location of ice calving as well.

The basic equation for ice calving is the rate of spreading times the width of the shelf times the thickness times a constant. The researchers realize that this does not capture the totality of variation in the ice calving process but does account for a large percentage of the variability.

Source: Penn State

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##### Noein
2.9 / 5 (7) Nov 28, 2008
What?? An article that mentions "climate model" hasn't been bombarded yet by global warming denialism propagandists?? I'm SHOCKED.
##### Velanarris
2.8 / 5 (6) Nov 28, 2008
What?? An article that mentions "climate model" hasn't been bombarded yet by global warming denialism propagandists?? I'm SHOCKED.
We figured we'd let you make an ass of yourself first. Now that thats out of the way.

No one cares about ice shelves which no one prior to 2002 can substantiate as being a permanent structure in the glaciated regions. Some of the prior "fallen" ice shelfs are currently regrowing, as well as their parent ice sheets thickening.

Perhaps the decadal ocean temperature ocillation is responsible.
##### GrayMouser
2.5 / 5 (6) Nov 28, 2008
As with any computer model, Garbage-In=Gospel-Out.
##### mikiwud
3 / 5 (2) Dec 01, 2008
Why no mention of tidal forces on ice shelves?
On high tides the extra "floating effect" would cause an upward pressure compared to low tide. This would stress any weak points, especially at times of higher tidal range.
Also, during storms these stresses could be increased.
If speed of growth is relevant then tidal forces may create the breaking point.
I may be wrong, but if this has not been factored in, Why! It seems to be a major consideration.

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