Spain wilts in driest winter for 70 years

Mar 04, 2012 by Gabriel Rubio
Photo taken on March 1 shows the Portodemouros reservoir's low level of water due a prolonged drought. February is barely past but already Spanish farmers are on drought alert as reservoirs shrink, crops wilt and brush fires crackle after the country's driest winter in 70 years.

February is barely past but already Spanish farmers are on drought alert as reservoirs shrink, crops wilt and brush fires crackle after the country's driest winter in 70 years.

Spain is used to fires in the summer, but this year they have come early, ravaging woodland, while the general dryness stunts crops and leaves without grass for grazing.

Brush fires have already swept across 400 hectares in the wooded northwestern region of Galicia.

Near the Galician village of Brocos, the Portodemouros reservoir has visibly shrunk and egg-shell cracks have appeared in the mud.

"We have a very hard drought, spectacularly intense in some territories," said agriculture minister Miguel Aras Canete.

"The are not at alarming levels, but we are beginning to have a lot of ."

Spaniards emerged from their usual choking summer last year gasping for rain, but over the past three winter months Spain has had average precipitation of just 55 litres per square metre, far below the average of 200 litres.

"We have experienced three winter months with minimal levels of rain in all of Spain -- December, January and February have been the driest since at least the 1940s," state spokesman Angel Rivera told AFP.

A farmer and his cow at the Portodemouros reservoir on March 1. Spain is used to fires in the summer, but this year they have come early, ravaging woodland, while the general dryness stunts crops and leaves farm animals without grass for grazing.

"Previously the driest winter had been in 1980-81," Rivera said. "Then it rained 30 litres more per square metre than it is now."

The latest official drought report on February 22 said Spain's reservoirs were only two-thirds full, meaning less water for the fields where crops grow and animals graze.

"Leafy plants, vegetables and cereals are suffering the most," said Gregorio Juarez, a spokesman for the young farmer's association ASAJA, warning that olives, vines and almonds may be next.

"There is a large part of southern Andalucia and Aragon where there is land that has already been lost, where there is now no solution whether it rains or not," he added.

"The fields in Granada could lose 35 percent of olive production and are counting on the loss of 50 percent of plant crops."

Photo taken on March 1 shows the low level of water at the Portodemouros reservoir. Over the past three winter months Spain has had average precipitation of just 55 litres per square metre, far below the average of 200 litres.

In the southern province of Malaga are calculating their losses at 14 million euros, he added.

The little water that has fallen "has not soaked through to the earth," said Alejandro Garcia of the farmers' association COAG.

"In the coming month this lack of moisture is going to make plants sprout less strongly and affect the fruit they bear," he added.

He and other officials warn the drought is also threatening livestock, which cannot graze and must eat expensive feed instead.

In Galicia and other northern regions such as Asturias and Castilla y Leon "livestock farmers are seeing production costs rise by at least 20 percent", the Union of Small Farmers and Stockbreeders warned.

"There is the hope that if it rains soon, in the next week or two, things could get a bit better," said Garcia.

Rivera the weatherman forecast four days of rain from Sunday, followed by another high pressure system, likely to bring with it more dry weather.

"We need water, not just because of the fire risk but for grazing," said Galicia's regional rural affairs councillor Rosa Quintana.

"We'll see if the weather helps us."

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Lurker2358
3.4 / 5 (14) Mar 04, 2012
Aaaaand we're off.

This is the real danger of Global Warming: Insane droughts that are nearly twice as bad as previous record drought.

Sea level rise takes decades to make a difference.

One drought can send an entire nation reeling.

Get Google Earth and Look at N. Africa, the Sahara. Imagine if your neighborhood looked like that. That could be your reality in a few decades in parts of the U.S. and Europe, even in places that had historically been very fertile land and with moist climates.
kaasinees
2.8 / 5 (12) Mar 04, 2012

This is the real danger of Global Warming: Insane droughts that are nearly twice as bad as previous record drought.

and insane storms/rain/floods.

The extremes become extreme.
ryggesogn2
2.2 / 5 (20) Mar 04, 2012
"driest winter in 70 years."
But by AGWite standards, there is more CO2 now than 70 years ago.
If CO2 is the cause now, what was the cause then?
Lurker2358
3.3 / 5 (11) Mar 04, 2012
"driest winter in 70 years."
But by AGWite standards, there is more CO2 now than 70 years ago.
If CO2 is the cause now, what was the cause then?


Did you look at the figures?

It said since "at least the 1940s".

"...December, January and February have been the driest since at least the 1940s..."

Implying that they might just not have accurate data from before the 1940s.

They got an average of 3cm less rainfall than the drought in the 80's, if you do the math. That's 1.4 inches less.

75% below average vs 55% below average.

So no, this doesn't reasonably compare to previous events in the modern era.

But stick your head in the sand, Rygg.

I guess you think it's "normal" to break old records by a factor of what must be several standard deviations...
ryggesogn2
2 / 5 (16) Mar 04, 2012
Implying that they might just not have accurate data from before the 1940s.

That's your excuse?

Is it coincidental that in 1936, the USA experienced severe drought and high temperatures.?
And the CO2 levels were lower then. What caused those peak temps and conditions?
Duude
2.6 / 5 (10) Mar 04, 2012
Interesting enough, the rest of Europe is experiencing a typical cold cold winter.
Lurker2358
3.3 / 5 (11) Mar 04, 2012
Implying that they might just not have accurate data from before the 1940s.

That's your excuse?

Is it coincidental that in 1936, the USA experienced severe drought and high temperatures.?
And the CO2 levels were lower then. What caused those peak temps and conditions?


The Dust Bowl was caused by bad farming practices....which means it was man made as well.

Maybe you should read some history.
ryggesogn2
2.1 / 5 (14) Mar 04, 2012
"The decade started with dry years in 1930 and 1931 especially in the East. Then, 1934 recorded extremely dry conditions over almost 80 percent of the United States. Extreme drought conditions returned in 1936, 1939 and 1940. Walter Schmitt calls this the "double whammy" of drought and depression. "
http://www.living..._01.html
RitchieGuy
1.3 / 5 (13) Mar 04, 2012
LOL. . .in spite of all the AGW alarmists going on and on that the world is ending because of people existing, Mother Nature will still give her bounty and take it away as she sees fit. Whether or not we stop using fossil fuels, Nature will still cause droughts, forest fires, earthquakes, tsunamies, desertification, asteroid bombs, sinkholes, solar flares, landslides, mountain upheavals, crop failures, infestations, all sorts of gaseous emissions from the Earth itself, and many more.
That is the nature and the results of being a lifeform on this planet. We have to deal with these quirks as best we can and learn to appreciate what we have and stop POLLUTING everything just because we can and/or feel like it. Statistics are fine, but they will not stop the people in a small village in Africa from chopping down trees for firewood and poaching endangered animals. AGWites complain endlessly but STILL haven't stopped the usage of fossil fuels. So, it's all loud talk and no action.
RitchieGuy
1.4 / 5 (13) Mar 04, 2012
Look, it all starts with one person. . .stop using fossil fuels for whatever reason. And if enough people in the world also stop the usage, the fossil fuel industry will have to rely on renewable energy as well as growing biomass in unpopulated semi-arid deserts to make biofuels like sweet orghum and sugar cane, which are great and non-polluting alternatives to oil, gas and coal usage. But AGWites only talk and talk about the carnage that man-caused CO2 produces. . . .and are not willing to give up their comfort and conveniences. Just the airplane trips to those AGW conferences alone put enormous CO2 and other noxious gases into the atmosphere. And those conferences were supposed to talk the world into preventing such things.
LOL. . .it's like a big joke. It's the same ol' same ol'. YOU do it but don't tell me that I also have to do it. The NIMBY syndrome is popular with the AGWites.
Caliban
4.2 / 5 (5) Mar 04, 2012
"driest winter in 70 years."

But by AGWite standards, there is more CO2 now than 70 years ago.
If CO2 is the cause now, what was the cause then?


riggsuggin',

The cause then was probably Nature itself recoiling in horror at the thought of your imminent birth.

That's a response at least as valid as your utterly superfluous question -and quite possibly correct, as well...

ryggesogn2
1.9 / 5 (13) Mar 04, 2012
AGWites complain endlessly but STILL haven't stopped the usage of fossil fuels. So, it's all loud talk and no action.

They have not personally acted but like good socialists, they attempt to force everyone to do what they won't personally do.
Sort of like Warren Buffet demanding the govt force him to pay more taxes while he refuses to voluntarily pay more.
Vendicar_Decarian
3.5 / 5 (8) Mar 04, 2012
Small minds like the one Libertarian RyggTard possesses just can't comprehend statistical probability. To him rolling 12 6's in a row is nothing special since he rolled a single 6 seventy years ago.

It is growing ever more obvious that the warming globe is causing a climatological shift into a regime with greater levels of extreme weather.

This is exactly what the models tell us, and exactly what one would expect from a semi-chaotic system like the earth's climate.

The greater levels of variability mean that the system is not just orbiting a single chaotic attractor, but is now being perturbed to a greater extent as the path in it's orbit brings it closer to nearby attractors.

At some point the system will lose it's cohesive attraction to the current attractor and find itself randomly shuffling between the current attractor and one or more additional ones. Or finding itself simply making a state change to a new attractor entirely.

Cont.
Vendicar_Decarian
3.7 / 5 (9) Mar 04, 2012
Such a state change means either years of highly chaotic weather which will greatly depress available food crops and result in mass starvation, or will produce a shift to an entirely new temperature regime in which existing climatological niches will shift geographically by thousands of miles, resulting in a greatly depressed production of food crops, producing mass starvation.

How should RyggTard and the other enemies of mankind be rewarded?

ryggesogn2
1.9 / 5 (14) Mar 04, 2012
But we do have corporate interests, like Enron, T. Boone Pickens, GE, BP who all have lobbied for special tax breaks and subsidies to be 'green'.
If their technology was profitable an ready for prime time, why the subsidy?
Vendicar_Decarian
3.7 / 5 (9) Mar 04, 2012
"They have not personally acted but like good socialists" - RyggTard

My total yearly consumption of gasoline comes to 46 gallons.

What is yours Tard Boy?
Vendicar_Decarian
3.7 / 5 (9) Mar 04, 2012
It is good to see companies profiting from acting in the interests of the public for a change.

"But we do have corporate interests, like Enron, T. Boone Pickens, GE, BP who all have lobbied for special tax breaks and subsidies to be 'green'. " - RyggTard

But one wonders why a Libertarian Low Life like yourself would even care since your ideology holds that Corporations should operate tax fee. So you support the tax breaks.

You just are just anti-science and anti-environment.

You and your Libertarian brothers in crime are the enemy of nature and mankind.
Vendicar_Decarian
3.7 / 5 (9) Mar 04, 2012
Because there are all manner of barriers to market penetration. Not least of which are startup costs, the costs inherent in low startup production volumes, delays in consumer adoption, etc.

Given that the U.S. interior is rapidly reverting to desert, do you think that you have time to live with those delays?

There is no need to answer. As we have all seen, the only thing that comes out of a Libertarian's mouth are lies and bullshit.

"If their technology was profitable an ready for prime time, why the subsidy?" - RyggTard

Vendicar_Decarian
3.7 / 5 (9) Mar 04, 2012
The common refrain of all rapists. "She was willing."

"Mother Nature will still give her bounty and take it away as she sees fit." - RichieTard
Vendicar_Decarian
3.5 / 5 (8) Mar 04, 2012
Very true.

And if you Conservatives don't get out of the way we are going to have to start putting bullets in your brains in order to compel you to act reasonably.

There are no rules when it comes down to your opposition to survival, and support for mass death.

"Statistics are fine, but they will not stop the people in a small village in Africa from chopping down trees for firewood and poaching endangered animals. " - RichieTard
RitchieGuy
1.3 / 5 (14) Mar 04, 2012
"They have not personally acted but like good socialists" - RyggTard

My total yearly consumption of gasoline comes to 46 gallons.

What is yours Tard Boy?


LOL. . .it appears that VendiTard doesn't drive and he probably has everything delivered to his mental institution where he lives. . .unless he is now living in his mom's basement and she has to do everything for him. . .including his dirty laundry and drive him around to see his psychiatrist in HER car
I see that VendiTard, just like FrankHerbert et al, has a reading comprehension deficit. For some strange reason, VendiTardo thinks that lowering taxes on corporations means no taxes at all. That is outrageously far from the truth.
Corporations do NOT operate tax free; there is no such thing in the U.S., otherwise every corporation in the world would be fighting to get into the U.S. to enjoy tax free status.
So you don't know what you're talking about, as usual, VendiTardo. Read some books on American economics 101.
Vendicar_Decarian
3.5 / 5 (8) Mar 04, 2012
I drive 8 miles to work and back virtually every day Tard Boy.

"LOL. . .it appears that VendiTard doesn't drive' - RichieTard

My total yearly consumption of gasoline comes to 46 gallons.
What is yours?

"Read some books on American economics 101." - RichieTard

You mean American Economic Failure 101.

Now answer the question. Scum.
Howhot
3.3 / 5 (7) Mar 04, 2012
It is amazing the fantasy world you live in R2; when science has shown and explained just how much of the extreme weather events is connected to climate change from man made global warming. Vendi is right-on noting your anti-science, anti-environment positions.

Of course the drought in Spain is just one of a long list of events that all point to the complex interplay of Co2 on temperature, the increased humidity from global warming effects and the change in weather patterns from warmer oceans and continents. You can't deny the observations of all of the hundreds of events and not see the correlation(s) to man-kinds destructive will placed on the environment. People have broken the world and it will never be what it was.

Its because there are deniers like yourself that the world needs to punish people that are polluting. Polluters should be controlled and a costly fine extracted from them for breaking the laws.

A Co2 tax is the only way possible to force change on your kind.
ryggesogn2
1.9 / 5 (13) Mar 04, 2012
long list of events that all point to the complex interplay of Co2 on temperature,

What is the equation? Or is it too complex?
RitchieGuy
1.3 / 5 (12) Mar 04, 2012
howhot says:
""Its because there are deniers like yourself that the world needs to punish people that are polluting. Polluters should be controlled and a costly fine extracted from them for breaking the laws.

A Co2 tax is the only way possible to force change on you kind.""

LMAO. . .(cough cough)
I knew it was just a matter of time until howhot or one of her AGWite religionists mentions the extortion of money and punishments for the evil-doer non-compliers. Spoken like a true Socialist/Communist slavemaster, howhot.
I have said in other threads that in the belief in the religion of AGW, I am an agnostic. Whether AGW is happening or it isn't, demanding money from individuals, corporations and nations is still EXTORTION, and extortion is still a crime and highly unethical no matter for what reason.
I don't believe in your CO2 tax or Cap and Trade, or however you want to call it. You people are no better than the MAFIA.
RitchieGuy
1.3 / 5 (12) Mar 04, 2012
You will probably break the legs and arms of those who don't live by your rules. Bring a cudgel down on a few heads and the rest of them will bend to your will, eh?
Oh that's right. . .you AGWites will bring the full force of the law and it's military might on people who drive cars full of gasoline, right? Oh, and you and your army will destroy all the gas pumps in the nation and then sell bicycles to everyone who knows how to ride one.
But you don't want to make the effort of encouraging the growing of biomass in unpopulated areas of the nation because you would rather just talk and talk instead of walk the walk and create a system of theft through illicit taxation. It figures.
Howhot
3.4 / 5 (5) Mar 04, 2012
you AGWites will bring the full force of the law and it's military might on people who drive cars full of gasoline, right?


Oh by no means would WE AGWites do that. We wouldn't tax ourselves. We would just TAX the heck out of people that bought HUMMERS! It only seem fair since they are Luxury items that consume fuel the heck of it. A Co2 tax on hummers seems like a good idea using taxes to modify a destructive human behavior.

A Co2 tax would be a lot lower on a bicycle. That is for sure.
The point is, the people of Spain are suffering this winter drought because of human beings lack of self control in their use of fossil fuel based energy.

An itchyguy, so far nothing you said will HELP the HUMAN condition, so why even POST? If man was meant to consume fossil fuels (and create droughts as a result) he would have been born with a motor attached to his forehead. --- I have seen the FUN -
and You deniers ruined it.

RitchieGuy
1.4 / 5 (11) Mar 04, 2012
VendiTardo says:

And if you Conservatives don't get out of the way we are going to have to start putting bullets in your brains in order to compel you to act reasonably.

There are no rules when it comes down to your opposition to survival, and support for mass death.

"Statistics are fine, but they will not stop the people in a small village in Africa from chopping down trees for firewood and poaching endangered animals. " - RichieTard


Opposition to survival and mass death? After all the talk from you and your Asswipes aka AGWites about human overpopulation being bad for the planet and abortion being good? You should be happy when the world's population is diminished because of natural disasters, diseases and wars. The less people breathing and using fossil fuels, the less CO2 being emitted, isn't that right?
It was already apparent that AGWites are mainly interested in the extortion of money from the rich and middle-class people of the world. The Kyoto conferences has
RitchieGuy
1.7 / 5 (12) Mar 04, 2012
proved that it's all about money and always has been about the money.

howhot says:
"An itchyguy, so far nothing you said will HELP the HUMAN condition, so why even POST?"
But it's the same with YOU and your cohorts, howhot. . .none of you have said anything to help the human condition either. So far, it's a load of fearmongering and encouraging the frightening of schoolchildren that you approve of.
TheGhostofOtto1923
2.5 / 5 (11) Mar 04, 2012
Look, it all starts with one person. . .stop using fossil fuels for whatever reason. And if enough people in the world also stop the usage, the fossil fuel industry will have to rely on renewable energy
But alas unlike you we don't have 40 acres to grow sweet sorghum and a big still to turn it into ethanol to power our MF combines with. Tell us more about how youre going to turn all that sorghum into fuel you bullshit artist. LMAO

Funny how you post a few times and then muck up the rest of the thread countering all the insults you get from posting nonsense to begin with. Why bother?
Vendicar_Decarian
3 / 5 (4) Mar 04, 2012

"What is the equation?" - RyggTard

What is the equation that describes an egg? Tard Boy.

Only the most trivial physical systems can be characterized with a single equation.

Having said that, all natural macroscopic systems lend themselves to continuous solutions, and on some scale of resolution such solutions can be approximated by a unique linear function.

In the case of global warming, the simplified linear equation is dt = 3.5*(CO2)/270 Where CO2 is the atmospheric concentration of CO2 over the range of 270 to 540 ppmv.

RitchieGuy
1.4 / 5 (10) Mar 04, 2012
NONE of you have said anything cogent enough to expain a viable solution to the problem of alleged global warming except to punish the rich for being rich and owning hummers. Are you also planning to punish Senator John Kerry in Mass. for owning gas guzzling yachts and fancy cars also? Maybe you'd like to take a big group of AGWites to AlGore's mansions and big houses in Tennessee and set them on fire since he certainly uses a lot of electricity. You also may need to go to the homes of Hollywood's Liberal/Socialist movie stars and vent your rage at them for consuming large amounts of gasoline and electricity also.
Oh, I forgot. . .anyone who is a Liberal/Socialist is off limits for venting. I keep forgetting that it's the political affiliation that counts and not how much you consume.
TheGhostofOtto1923
2.1 / 5 (11) Mar 04, 2012
A Co2 tax on hummers seems like a good idea using taxes to modify a destructive human behavior.
Uh they don't make hummers any more you dimwit.
RitchieGuy
1.3 / 5 (12) Mar 04, 2012
Ghostof$hitheadOtto says:
Look, it all starts with one person. . .stop using fossil fuels for whatever reason. And if enough people in the world also stop the usage, the fossil fuel industry will have to rely on renewable energy
But alas unlike you we don't have 40 acres to grow sweet sorghum and a big still to turn it into ethanol to power our MF combines with. Tell us more about how youre going to turn all that sorghum into fuel you bullshit artist. LMAO

Funny how you post a few times and then muck up the rest of the thread countering all the insults you get from posting nonsense to begin with. Why bother?


LMAO at the GirlyMan who just came into the thread talking gibberish as usual. Strange that GirlyMan thinks I own a still. I've never even seen one but apparently GhostofGirlyMan has. Do tell us all about your knowledge of stills, Girlyman. It should make interesting reading.
TheGhostofOtto1923
2.1 / 5 (11) Mar 04, 2012
So Uh ritchie... How are you going to turn your 40 acres of sweet sorghum into ethanol? You said this in a previous thread but never explained how you were going to do it. I think we deserve an explanation.
RitchieGuy
1.4 / 5 (11) Mar 04, 2012
TheGhostofGirlyMan says:
A Co2 tax on hummers seems like a good idea using taxes to modify a destructive human behavior.
Uh they don't make hummers any more you dimwit.


Uhhhh. . . .you should tell that to howhot since she wants to punish the rich for owning hummers. Oh, that's right. . .you skipped right over HER comment about hummers just to let me know what you know that she don't know but that you think I don't know. LMAO again

RitchieGuy
1.3 / 5 (12) Mar 04, 2012
So Uh ritchie... How are you going to turn your 40 acres of sweet sorghum into ethanol? You said this in a previous thread but never explained how you were going to do it. I think we deserve an explanation.


That's for me to know, GirlyMan. . .and why would you think that I owe you, a mere a$$wipe, an explanation, eh?
RitchieGuy
1.4 / 5 (11) Mar 04, 2012
GhostofGirlyman. . . .why don't you google the words desert grow sweet sorghum and find out for yourself, eh? That is, if you, like your buttbuddy FrankHerbert aka bewertow have learned some reading comprehension skills from courses online.

:P
Howhot
4.2 / 5 (5) Mar 04, 2012
Itchieguy says:
Are you also planning to punish Senator John Kerry in Mass. for owning gas guzzling yachts and fancy cars also?


Yeah that is what a fair taxing system does. And it should be progressive too. there are reasons behind that. You know some middle class people make their living on the road. Ahh but you obviously don't care about the middle class or the needs of society. You would have everyone just pollute the air until we all die? Is that the point point your trying to make.

Anyway, the Liberal/Socialist gag is baiting. In reality a Co2 tax would be helpful for everyone rich and poor alike if it effects change in the absolute insane amounts of Co2 we are dumping into the atmosphere.

As for Al-Gore; Our former Vice-President who I have the deepest respect for, also won a Nobel Peace prize for his efforts in to bring the debate on AGW to notice of the world. I'm sorry but his credibility is light years beyond anything you deniers have.


TheGhostofOtto1923
2.5 / 5 (11) Mar 04, 2012
So Uh ritchie... How are you going to turn your 40 acres of sweet sorghum into ethanol? You said this in a previous thread but never explained how you were going to do it. I think we deserve an explanation.


That's for me to know, GirlyMan. . .and why would you think that I owe you, a mere a$$wipe, an explanation, eh?
If you recall you said
I am growing sweet sorghum this Spring on 40 of my acres and hope to get 2 crops out of it. Most of it will become ethanol for my tractor, etc.
I don't believe you should think you can say things like this without people calling you on them, yes? Didn't you even consider for a moment that someone might want to know HOW you were going to do this?

You think you're talking to your mom on your cellphone here? I am sure she knows you're full of shit as well, but she loves her baby doesn't she?
Vendicar_Decarian
3.7 / 5 (6) Mar 04, 2012
Wealth is irrelevant RichieTard. CO2 production is not.

Your desire to create a straw man equating opposition to warming with an attack on the wealthy just illustrates the depth of your mental illness.

"NONE of you have said anything cogent enough to expain a viable solution to the problem of alleged global warming except to punish the rich for being rich and owning hummers." - RichieTard
Vendicar_Decarian
3.9 / 5 (7) Mar 04, 2012
Your Conservative plan is to foster the death of what will probably be millions of people, and the wholesale destruction of the natural ecosystem.

My plan calls for the summary trial and execution of far fewer Conservatives who intend to carry out your plan.

"After all the talk from you and your Asswipes aka AGWites about human overpopulation being bad for the planet and abortion being good?" - RichieTard

kochevnik
3.3 / 5 (7) Mar 04, 2012
human overpopulation being bad for the planet and abortion being good? You should be happy when the world's population is diminished because of natural disasters, diseases and wars.
Really if religious nutjobs wish to keep breeding like rabbits they can rocket their loins to the moon or Mars. Just not here.
Vendicar_Decarian
3 / 5 (4) Mar 04, 2012
Read about the new Libertarian/Republican plan to remake America here.

http://www.washin...ory.html
kochevnik
2.3 / 5 (6) Mar 04, 2012
Let the invisible hand of the "free market" decide LOL
RitchieGuy
1.4 / 5 (13) Mar 05, 2012
howhot says:
A Co2 tax on hummers seems like a good idea using taxes to modify a destructive human behavior.

then GhostofGirlyman says:
Uh they don't make hummers any more you dimwit.


It's apparent that GhostofGirlyman is calling howhot a dimwit for wanting to tax owners of hummers who drive those hummers. The fact that hummers are no longer manufactured is important to GhostofGirlyman. But the fact that many of those hummers are still owned and operated is NOT important to GhostofGirlyman, thus his/her description of howhot as a dimwit.

Tch tch. . .such carryings on by GhostofG proves that he/she is not in full possession of his/her brain cells and many have fallen out as a result of failing reading comprehension skills. A funeral service will be performed in memory of the brain cells that he/she once had. . .that is, if they can be found which is nearly impossible now.
Vendicar_Decarian
3.7 / 5 (6) Mar 05, 2012
Heartland Institute (Libertarian) Employee Commits Perjury in New Zealand

http://hot-topic....roversy/

I have never encountered a Libertarian/Conservative who wasn't a scumbag liar.
RitchieGuy
1.4 / 5 (11) Mar 05, 2012
kkk says:
human overpopulation being bad for the planet and abortion being good? You should be happy when the world's population is diminished because of natural disasters, diseases and wars.
Really if religious nutjobs wish to keep breeding like rabbits they can rocket their loins to the moon or Mars. Just not here.


@kkk. . .not all Xtians and Jews are breeding like bunnies. . .your Muslims are probably one of, if not THE biggest threat as far as overpopulation, mainly because they are not enlightened like China as to its perils of popping out too many litters. Africa is another region where there are always buns in the oven and not enough resources. However, you can be rest assured that it is the White or Caucasian populations that will diminish in size, and quite soon too, since White emancipated Feminist type women don't want the drudgery of babies and nappies. They want to work and break that glass ceiling and compete with men for the best high paying jobs.
RitchieGuy
1.4 / 5 (10) Mar 05, 2012
With White men and women out of the way, it will be up to you AGWites to talk to your Muslim counterparts and tell them what they must do. They will then have to go to their own AGW climatologists and explain to them that the Muslims are overpopulating and it must be stopped.
Think of the joyous tidings that will bring to the followers of Muhammad when they hear that they are no longer allowed to have a child or more children. What a cause for celebration.
Howhot
3.4 / 5 (5) Mar 05, 2012
Well, lets get this debate a little more civilized. Your are really baiting this open forum Itchiegay. What you are arguing has nothing to do with the article or the science.

You know, some of my best friends are Muslim.
RitchieGuy
1.4 / 5 (11) Mar 05, 2012
is that a fact, howhot? Well, in that case, you may want to tell them to their faces not to have any more children. I don't know anyone from the middle east and they are the original Muslims. Are your friends from Indonesia where Obamalama's Muslim stepfather came from?
Howhot
2 / 5 (4) Mar 05, 2012
Humm... itchie your still baiting. Your such a looser dude.

RitchieGuy
1.4 / 5 (11) Mar 05, 2012
right. . .well, anyway. . .the rain in Spain stays mainly on the plain. . .and Spain does have some desert areas, as you already know, howhot. I'm sure you know how close Spain is to north Africa, and it's just across the water, in fact not far from Libya, if I recall. Libya also has desert areas. So it's not too surprising that Spain gets some dry spells. Climate is always changing. . .dry then wet then dry then wet. But CO2 is a bit different from dry then wet. . .and you will have to question what types of industries there are in that region of Europe. It may be that the underground aquifers are all depleted of water due to overpopulation. You know them Catholics breed like bunnies.
Howhot
3.9 / 5 (7) Mar 05, 2012
ight. . .well, anyway. . .the rain in Spain stays mainly on the plain. . .and Spain does have some desert areas, as you already know, howhot. I'm sure you know how close Spain is to north Africa, and it's just across the water, in fact not far from Libya, if I recall. Libya also has desert areas. So it's not too surprising that Spain gets some dry spells. Climate is always changing. . .dry then wet then dry then wet. But CO2 is a bit different from dry then wet. . .and you will have to question what types of industries there are in that region of Europe. It may be that the underground aquifers are all depleted of water due to overpopulation. You know them Catholics breed like bunnies.


And that means what itchieguy? What non-sense are you typing? What is your point other than to waste time and plaster your point of view like graffiti on a train?


rubberman
3 / 5 (7) Mar 05, 2012
So Uh ritchie... How are you going to turn your 40 acres of sweet sorghum into ethanol? You said this in a previous thread but never explained how you were going to do it. I think we deserve an explanation.


That's for me to know, GirlyMan. . .and why would you think that I owe you, a mere a$$wipe, an explanation, eh?


Not a bad back and forth but at this point I feel Ghost should have used the I'm rubber and you're glue rebuttal...my personal favorite.....

TheGhostofOtto1923
1.5 / 5 (8) Mar 05, 2012
I'm sure you know how close Spain is to north Africa, and it's just across the water, in fact not far from Libya, if I recall. Libya also has desert areas. So it's not too surprising that Spain gets some dry spells. Climate is always changing. . .dry then wet then dry then wet. But CO2 is a bit different from dry then wet. . .and you will have to question what types of industries there are in that region of Europe. It may be that the underground aquifers are all depleted of water
More unbelievable stupidity from absolutely the dumbest poster to ever show up here. You think you know meteorology. You think you know geography. You think you know politics. Bitchieboy says he is here to learn but it seems he already knows everything. 'I think therefore I know. I should post and inform the world.'

You consistently post absolute nonsense. The only reason I can think of for this is you enjoy being laughed at. Is this true?
ryggesogn2
2.1 / 5 (9) Mar 05, 2012
Anyone notice the standard deviation of the rain in Spain?
I know the SD of annual rainfall in southern AZ is quite large.
That's what happens in that part of the world.
RitchieGuy
1.8 / 5 (10) Mar 05, 2012
I really wish that TheGhostofGirlyman would stop sending me smutty PMs asking to meet me offline to give me head, (he wants to $suckmypeni$) and that he's only doing the name calling on me so that nobody will know how he really feels about me. I keep replying to him that I"m not into homosexual sex but he just won't give up and continues to PM me about us getting together. I'm really sick of his bull$hit and am thinking of complaining to Physorg admin. to ban him from posting.
TheGhostofOtto1923
1.6 / 5 (7) Mar 05, 2012
Ritchie dear
Well perhaps youd like to repost one so everybody can see it?
In the meantime maybe youd like to explain how spain and libya should have the same climate but italy does not? Or france for that matter? The are as close arent they?
Toodles
RitchieGuy
1.5 / 5 (8) Mar 05, 2012
I know some meteorology, I know geography, and I definitely know politics. GhostofGirlyman is pissed off because I am a landowner and he isn't, and instead of doing a google search to see how sweet sorghum is harvested and made into ethanol on his own, he wants me to TELL him/her how I do it. If I told him about my life and my land, etc., that would only encourage him more to pursue me for his queer sex. I want nothing to do with that creep, so I will no longer answer his stupid questions in any thread.
RitchieGuy
1.4 / 5 (9) Mar 05, 2012
@howhot. . .Spain, being near the equator, does experience drought occasionally. Im sure that they will get their rain at some point nevertheless. I doubt that this is a permanent thing.
RitchieGuy
1.4 / 5 (9) Mar 05, 2012
This article is from 2008 NYT about southeast Spain. The climate always changes, that's why the Sahara formed in Africa.
http://www.nytime...nted=all

I believe that it's mainly due to overpopulation and depletion of aquifers that is causing the problem.
rubberman
3.2 / 5 (6) Mar 05, 2012
@howhot. . .Spain, being near the equator, does experience drought occasionally. Im sure that they will get their rain at some point nevertheless. I doubt that this is a permanent thing.


BLAHAHAHA.....Madrid and Denver are on the same line of latitude....Denver isn't near the equator. And you even said you knew geography! Also, being near the equator doesn't necessarily produce drought...google the congo, or a country called Ecuador...pretty lush year around. Have you been smokin' the sweet sorgum?
RitchieGuy
1.4 / 5 (9) Mar 05, 2012
rubber. . .I was referring to southeast Spain. . .I should have said that southern Spain is directly opposite Morocco, but Tunisia and Libya are also on the Mediterranean, as is southern Spain. France is not close to north Africa, but Italy is.
I'm aware that not every country has desert areas, but Spain does and so does Libya Tunisia and Morocco.
Smoking sweet sorghum? Nope, I just grow it. If you try smoking it, let me know what it's like. LMAO
TheGhostofOtto1923
1.6 / 5 (7) Mar 05, 2012
BLAHAHAHA.....Madrid and Denver are on the same line of latitude....Denver isn't near the equator. And you even said you knew geography! Also, being near the equator doesn't necessarily produce drought...google the congo, or a country called Ecuador...pretty lush year around. Have you been smokin' the sweet sorgum?
teehehehe
GhostofGirlyman is pissed off because I am a landowner and he isn't
Naw Im jealous because ignorance is bliss so you must be very happy indeed.
I believe that it's mainly due to overpopulation and depletion of aquifers that is causing the problem.
YOU believe. You believe that metal boomerangs can be cast in wax molds. You believe:
The climate always changes, that's why the Sahara formed in Africa.
-that anything you pull out of your ass must be what is. Which reminds me... Wheres that PM I sent you? Dont you want to repost it and make otto look deviated?? Or are you just a liar as everyone already knows?
Howhot
2.3 / 5 (3) Mar 05, 2012
Ithchy guy, if you are so concerned about Spain (or not in you case) then you should know that the creep of the Saharah Desert northward would be of concern, if weather patterns shifted from Anthropogenic Global Warming.

However, I just think you are having an having an EMOTIONAL OUTBURST!! But, uh, WHY is there a WAFFLE in your PAJAMA POCKET??
Vendicar_Decarian
3 / 5 (4) Mar 06, 2012
The center of Spain is 40' North of the equator - almost half way to the north pole.

Your understanding of how the world works is equivalent to that of an average 11 year old.

And that my little Tard boy, is why you are a Tard boy.

"Spain, being near the equator, does experience drought occasionally" - RichieTard
Vendicar_Decarian
3 / 5 (2) Mar 06, 2012
A team at the Polytechnic University of Cartagena has designed a new method for calculating drought trends. Initial results suggest that by the year 2050 there could be a 15% increase compared to the droughts seen in 1990 in the Segura river basin.

http://www.eureka...2612.php

"This article is from 2008 NYT about southeast Spain." - RichieTard
RitchieGuy
1.8 / 5 (5) Mar 06, 2012
the article explains: "In the southern province of Malaga farmers are calculating their losses at 14 million euros, he added.
The little water that has fallen "has not soaked through to the earth," said Alejandro Garcia of the farmers' association COAG."

Malaga is on the coast of southern Spain and is directly across Morocco via the Strait of Gibraltar. As I've said, there are deserts in Spain and the countries of north Africa, which are across from Spain. I don't believe that the drought in southern Spain is caused by CO2. It's not a "climate change" in that instance. It's only weather. It's happened before and it will happen again. Lack of rain has nothing to do with CO2.
Howhot
3 / 5 (2) Mar 07, 2012
Itchieguy finally says what is on his mind;
I don't believe that the drought in southern Spain is caused by CO2.


Ok. So why are you all over everyones case then? You could have said that 20 posts ago. In stead your all "I'm a nuclear submarine under that polar ice cap and I need a kleenex" denier.

Your right, rain has nothing to do with CO2. Weather has nothing to do with CO2. Nothing has nothing to do with CO2! So what is CO2 good for anyway? It just happens that Co2 (carbon dioxide; one carbon atom, 2 oxygen atoms) in the upper atmosphere acts just like a two-way mirror; some light is reflected some is not. The more Co2 ppm the more reflective of infra-red (as in heat).

The added heat alters weather patterns by moving clouds higher, and moving more water into the clouds. The results of that global warming is more dry areas (as in Spain), and more rain (as in the Pakistan flood). And it's global, it effects everybody.

Vendicar_Decarian
3 / 5 (2) Mar 07, 2012
"The little water that has fallen "has not soaked through to the earth," said Alejandro Garcia of the farmers' association COAG" - RichieTard

Ya, you nailed it. They never should have installed those flush toilets in a country like Spain that is almost on the equator.

Vendicar_Decarian
3 / 5 (2) Mar 07, 2012
Denialist Richard Lindzen caught lying yet again.

Paid by the Libertarian CATO Institute and Caught read handed committing scientific Fraud.

http://www.realcl...lindzen/

Lindzen receives funding from the Libertarian propaganda organization calling itself the CATO Institute. CATO operates in an analogous manner to the Heritage Foundation and has many of the same despicable corporate funders.

I have never encountered a Libertarian who wasn't a congenital and perpetual liar. Lindzen is no exception to that rule.
RitchieGuy
1 / 5 (6) Mar 07, 2012
VendiTardo says:
"The little water that has fallen "has not soaked through to the earth," said Alejandro Garcia of the farmers' association COAG" - RichieTard

Ya, you nailed it. They never should have installed those flush toilets in a country like Spain that is almost on the equator.



You AGWites are famous for misinterpreting what people say. For one, I have never said anything about flush toilets, but that's apparently where VendiTardo's mind dwells.
And yes, SOUTHERN Spain is close to the equator just as north Africa is. I never said that it's ON the equator, just close to it. The tip os Italy is more or less on the same latitude as southern Spain, but Italy is not experiencing a drought. Sooooo. . .that means it's simply a matter of W-E-A-T-H-E-R, and NOT a uniform climate change.
The term "Climate Change" in place of Global Warming makes no sense, since climate in Hawai'i, e.g., is way different from climate in Alaska and Canada. Both have summers, but Hawai'i doesn't
RitchieGuy
1 / 5 (5) Mar 07, 2012
get snow and ice, so its climate changes very little. The term was changed from Global Warming because that term means that everywhere on Earth it's warming, so a new term HAD TO BE created since there is no OVERALL warming.
I never said that Spain is "almost on the equator", as VendiTard is making up. NEAR is not the same as almost ON.
VendiTard needs to learn proper English and reading comprehension 101 so that he can understand the meaning in any paragraph instead of quoting incorrectly. :)
RitchieGuy
1.7 / 5 (6) Mar 07, 2012
Just heard that Andrew Breitbart passed away. I'm very sad about that and our sympathy is with his wife. Andrew set the standard very high for reporting the truth on his webpages and he will be missed for being an honest man who had integrity and was highly principled in both his life and his career. His webpages contained no "yellow journalism" whatsoever as there is in the mainstream media. He was only 43, too young to leave this life.

Sorry to be off topic but the world has lost a good man and a good husband, father and journalist. He may or may not have been assassinated for his delving into Obama's Socialist and Communist associations, et al, but the coroner will determine cause of death. Breitbart also reported on AGW, btw, and encouraged healthy skepticism.

http://www.infowa...g-obama/
Vendicar_Decarian
1 / 5 (3) Mar 07, 2012
The world is a better place for it.

"Just heard that Andrew Breitbart passed away" - RichieTard

The more dead Republicans the better.
Callippo
3 / 5 (4) Mar 07, 2012
The more dead Republicans the better.
The silly fanatics wishing the death for others should die first, no matter which political stance do they occupy right now.
TheGhostofOtto1923
1 / 5 (5) Mar 07, 2012
Just heard that Davy jones passed away. I'm very sad about that and our sympathy is with his -horse? Davy set the standard very high for reporting the truth on his tv show and he will be missed for being an honest man who had integrity and was highly principled in both his life and his career. His albums contained no "disco" whatsoever as there is in the mainstream media. He was only 63, too young to leave this life.
And yes, SOUTHERN Spain is close to the equator just as north Africa is. I never said that it's ON the equator, just close to it.
And here's Ritchie trying to excuse the fact that he doesn't know what he's talking about. It's not working Ritchie.

Ritchie posts a self-serving message. 'Look how informed I am' he says. Who cares? You're OT.
RitchieGuy
1.7 / 5 (6) Mar 07, 2012
Thank you, Callippo. Breitbart had 4 children and a happy marriage. It's sad that he's gone. Good people like him die and the monsters like VendiTard live on. I'd like to say that Andrew's in a better place, but his place was beside his wife, not in the ground.
But that could also be said for all good men who deserved to live. Very sad.
Vendicar_Decarian
1 / 5 (2) Mar 07, 2012
In less than 30 years Republicans through treason, massive levels of fiscal, moral and intellectual corruption, have taken a viable and economically powerful nation and reduced it to ruin.

Execution is far too good for them.

TheGhostofOtto1923
1 / 5 (5) Mar 07, 2012
Thank you, Callippo. Breitbart had 4 children and a happy marriage. It's sad that he's gone. Good people like him die and the monsters like VendiTard live on. I'd like to say that Andrew's in a better place, but his place was beside his wife, not in the ground.
But that could also be said for all good men who deserved to live. Very sad.
Oh hey the guy who wrote 'it's a small small world' for Disney also died. That's pretty sad as well isn't it? STFU
RitchieGuy
1 / 5 (4) Mar 07, 2012
Otto1822
Otto1923
TheGhostofOtto1923 says:
Just heard that Davy jones passed away. I'm very sad about that and our sympathy is with his -horse? Davy set the standard very high for reporting the truth on his tv show and he will be missed for being an honest man who had integrity and was highly principled in both his life and his career. His albums contained no "disco" whatsoever as there is in the mainstream media. He was only 63, too young to leave this life.
And yes, SOUTHERN Spain is close to the equator just as north Africa is. I never said that it's ON the equator, just close to it.
And here's Ritchie trying to excuse the fact that he doesn't know what he's talking about. It's not working Ritchie.

Ritchie posts a self-serving message. 'Look how informed I am' he says. Who cares? You're OT.


It doesn't matter how many times you try to engage me for what you want from me, Ghost, you're not my type. . .so get lost. Maybe VendiTard will let you do him.
Howhot
3.7 / 5 (3) Mar 07, 2012
Republicans are the Treason party. Just about everything W did from the time the treasonous supreme court selected W as president over Gore, was just treason. And now someone dares call them out on it.

So ROCK ON Vendi! Tell it like it is!
RitchieGuy
1.6 / 5 (7) Mar 08, 2012
howhot. . .where do you get your insanity? Oh, that's right. . .you got it from VendiTardo, GhostofAshhole and the lurking FrankHerbertard under an assumed sockpuppet.
W isn't president anymore in case your memory fails or you haven't heard, howsnot. . .he's gone. . .left the White House 3 whole years ago. And you're still obsessed with him?
Five years from now you'll still be dreaming of GWBush in the oval office like it was yesterday, yes?
wow. . .when you obsess, you really obsess. . .LOL
Vendicar_Decarian
3 / 5 (2) Mar 08, 2012
But Bush's legacy of spectacular incompetence lives on, most visibly in the form of America's ongoing fiscal collapse.

The memories of those innocent people he murdered committing his war crimes also lives on. And Americans will be paying a price for that for a long... long... time.

"W isn't president anymore in case your memory fails or you haven't heard, howsnot. . .he's gone." - RitchieTard

TheGhostofOtto1923
1 / 5 (5) Mar 08, 2012
It doesn't matter how many times you try to engage me for what you want from me, Ghost, you're not my type. . .so get lost. Maybe VendiTard will let you do him.
I want to stop seeing your stupid ideas about Spain on the equator and 1/4 mile wide fish tubes and sorghum which grows in the desert and turns itself into fuel you dumbass. I want to see you gone like Ethelred and most everybody else here has expressed.

And I will keep demonstrating how stupid yor are. It's easy. You even think callipo was responding to you? You like to pretend you are part of a conversation? How sad is that?
Howhot
2 / 5 (4) Mar 09, 2012
Bush was an illegal presidency. That was from the rightwing SCOTUS overthrow the Gore Presidency, and it will go down in history for 1000s of years as an example of cronyism over law. IMHO.

Bush's legacy of spectacular incompetence


Itchieguy had that right, 8 years of crooked incompetence. 2 wars and a trashed economy and trashed environment. Contrast that with this;

http://video.goog...59519656

RitchieGuy
1 / 5 (5) Mar 09, 2012
Hahaha. . .nope. . .that wasn't me. I never said that Bush was an illegal president. He won fair and square and AlGore was bitter about it because he had his heart set on living in the White House, succeeding Clinton, who had no real use for Gore in the first place. GWBush was not the WORST president, that title goes to Jimmy Carter and Carter's name lives in infamy still. The SCOTUS never was right wing, btw. It was divided about even with left wing appointees.
RitchieGuy
1 / 5 (4) Mar 09, 2012
Bush economy vs. Clinton economy
http://money.usne...-verdict
GWBush inherited an economy from Clinton in which the technology bubble was bursting already because the tech was unsustainable in certain areas and jobs were being lost. After 9/11 happened, Bush had to make sure that the military was well supplied, etc., thus the deficit was raised. The unemployment rate under Clinton was 4.5% overall. As of April 2007, the unemployment rate under GWBush was 4.4%

also:

http://www.politi...n-presi/
RitchieGuy
1.2 / 5 (5) Mar 09, 2012
Bush economy vs. Obama economy

http://www.washin...hic.html

5 trillion spent by Bush over 8 years: 1 trillion spent by Obama over 3 years. Can't wait to see how many trillions more Obama will spend over the next 5 years if he is reelected. The 1 trillion includes his mishandling of the taxpayer money wasted on failed "green" companies. Where is the money? Someone should go to jail for this theft.
Liberals/Socialists are so willing to let it go and give Obama a free pass on the theft of our taxpayer money. Did that money go to the Democratic National Committee for Obama's reelection campaign? Most likely the money-launering has happened already. I think the "greenie" CEOs took that money, kept some, and the rest went to the DNC to reelect Obama, and that was in exchange for the CEOs not being prosecuted by the Dep't of Justice for the disappearance of millions of dollars.
Thieves in the White Hous
Howhot
not rated yet Mar 09, 2012
Itchieguy, What do I care what you say. You are obviously in a class of your own making; in your mind. I bet you also put aspirin between your knees too.

And by the way, W was the worst president in USA history. So not only are you wrong about the environment, but you have screwy politics as well.
Vendicar_Decarian
not rated yet Mar 09, 2012
"He won fair and square.." - RichieTard

If you believe that being appointed by Republicans on the supreme court was (winning).

"GWBush was not the WORST president" - RichieTard

A plurality of Americans disagree with you. And not just the families of those who died needlessly in Bushies little war crimes.


Vendicar_Decarian
not rated yet Mar 09, 2012
"5 trillion spent by Bush over 8 years: 1 trillion spent by Obama over 3 years." - RichieTard

Add another 3 trillion to Bushie's total to cover the cost of his war crimes in Iraq and Afhanistan. And subtract 300 billion from Obama's total for the same reason.

Poor RichieTard. He always seems to have this problem with honesty and reality.
Vendicar_Decarian
not rated yet Mar 09, 2012
"Liberals/Socialists are so willing to let it go and give Obama a free pass on the theft of our taxpayer money." - RichieTard

"The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises" - U.S. Constitution

Poor RichieTard. He can't even manage to figure out that Obama doesn't set tax policy. The Republican congress does.

And if they decide to tax his lazy fat ass, then it isn't theft, under the rules of his own nation's constitution.

Poor Richie Tard. He is living in the Tard land of make believe.
RitchieGuy
1 / 5 (3) Mar 10, 2012
howhot says:
Itchieguy, What do I care what you say. You are obviously in a class of your own making; in your mind. I bet you also put aspirin between your knees too.

And by the way, W was the worst president in USA history. So not only are you wrong about the environment, but you have screwy politics as well.


howhot. . .thanks for caring if I care what you say. Actually, I don't. Aspirin between knees?
Aspirin between the KNEES? WOW. . .you ARE strange. . .LOL
Regarding Jimmy Carter and GWBush. . .the record still stands. . .Carter wins hands down as the most worst president in the history of the U.S.A. And while Bush has the decency to keep out of the news and stay on his ranch. . .Carter the octegenarian gadfly can't keep his mitts off of world leaders, and after going to visit Kim Jong Il twice before he died, now he wants to get with the son.

http://www.americ...mmy.html
RitchieGuy
1 / 5 (3) Mar 10, 2012
"5 trillion spent by Bush over 8 years: 1 trillion spent by Obama over 3 years." - RichieTard

Add another 3 trillion to Bushie's total to cover the cost of his war crimes in Iraq and Afhanistan. And subtract 300 billion from Obama's total for the same reason.

Poor RichieTard. He always seems to have this problem with honesty and reality.


History books are already written, Tardboy . .and how about the John F, Kennedy and Lyndon Baines Johnson war crimes. JFK sent American troops to VietNam as advisors and LBJ widened the ensuing war and was responsible for the death of 58,000 American soldiers who died needlessly since the Democrats had no intention of winning that war. It took another criminal, Richard Nixon to END that war, but too late for the 58,000 plus young guys drafted and died for nothing. The Democrats have blood on their hands, so it's not surprising that Obama hasn't brought the rest of the troops home yet.
RitchieGuy
1 / 5 (3) Mar 10, 2012
Bush may have been a lousy president, but at least he was motivated to invade Iraq on account of 9/11. JFK and LBJ had no such motivation. JFK arbitrarily sent those soldiers to their deaths, even though he was assassinated and LBJ took over in the carnage for him. These young men had never fought in a jungle war and the Democrat scum in Washington, especially McNamara couldn't decide what to do. They're all murderers. We had no business fighting in VietNam and the cream of American youth are gone in that war. What do we have left? Occupy assholes back home. They will inherit everything thanks to the Dems
RitchieGuy
1 / 5 (3) Mar 10, 2012
Obama is keeping them in Afghanistan to finish the rest of them off. It's HIS war now
RitchieGuy
1 / 5 (3) Mar 10, 2012
Venditardo says: ""The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises" - U.S. Constitution

Poor RichieTard. He can't even manage to figure out that Obama doesn't set tax policy. The Republican congress does."

http://www.washin...ory.html

http://www.politi...r-money/
Yeah right. . .Obama does whatever the hell he wants to do and is ignoring the U.S. Constitution with your blessing
Howhot
not rated yet Mar 11, 2012
Itchieguy faces stupidity and realizes there is a mirror across the room. "Obama does whatever the hell he wants ... ignoring the U.S. Constitution" Actually that sounds more like the right-wing SCOTUS elected president GW Bush and his crony crop of right-wingers.

So what are you Itchieguy, one of the deniers of AGW?
kochevnik
1 / 5 (4) Mar 11, 2012
Bush economy vs. Clinton economy
LOL your stock market crashed immediately upon baby Bush's inauguration. Moreover your Supreme Court illegal ruled for his presidency, which was a direct breech of constitutional powers. The smart money pulled out like Magic Johnson learning his ho has AIDS. Just more proof USA is ruled by barbaric hucksters.
Obama is keeping them in Afghanistan to finish the rest of them off. It's HIS war now
LOL we know firsthand Afghanistan is where empires go to die.
ryggesogn2
1 / 5 (3) Mar 12, 2012
In the fall of 98, the DJIA fell from 9338 to 7539.
In Jan 01, the DJIA was ~10500.
In 2000, the NASDAQ fell from ~5000 in MAR to 2470 in DEC.
Clinton was president at this time.
RitchieGuy
1 / 5 (3) Mar 12, 2012
howhot says:
Itchieguy faces stupidity and realizes there is a mirror across the room. "Obama does whatever the hell he wants ... ignoring the U.S. Constitution" Actually that sounds more like the right-wing SCOTUS elected president GW Bush and his crony crop of right-wingers.

So what are you Itchieguy, one of the deniers of AGW?


Mirror? What mirror, howhot? Girl, you need to stop smoking that crack pipe. Now you're imagining mirrors and that this thread is a room? Wow. . . .that's like your "aspirin between the knees" figment. You are definitely strange!!

OK. . .I will repeat this again what I've said before and which you chose to ignore. When it comes to AGW, I am an AGNOSTIC!! I am not a skeptic. . .only an agnostic in the religion of AGW. Do try to retain that in your memory if possible. I have been researching alternatives to your AGW and one of those alternatives is CO2 and methane bubbles from hydrothermal vents, which you choose to ignore because you wish to
RitchieGuy
1 / 5 (3) Mar 12, 2012
cont'd
place all the blame ONLY on the human species as the cause of atmospheric CO2. But REAL scientists are refuting and disemboweling the phony arguments you AGWites propose as the "truth".
You people also choose to ignore the science that proves that intermittent global warming and global cooling are a natural function of the Earth's cycles. You concentrate on things like ocean acidification, but you completely IGNORE the volcanic activities and their resultant CO2 and methane emissions from hydrothermal vents, even though proof of it was posted on another thread. You and Venditardo didn't even know about liquid CO2 until Rygg2 posted the evidence link. I suggest you and Venditard do some research that is contrary to what you are pushing. You will find that you are not being entirely truthful about man-caused GW. . . .but that won't stop you in your obsession.
RitchieGuy
1 / 5 (3) Mar 12, 2012
KomradeKochevnik says:
Bush economy vs. Clinton economy
LOL your stock market crashed immediately upon baby Bush's inauguration. Moreover your Supreme Court illegal ruled for his presidency, which was a direct breech of constitutional powers. The smart money pulled out like Magic Johnson learning his ho has AIDS. Just more proof USA is ruled by barbaric hucksters.
Obama is keeping them in Afghanistan to finish the rest of them off. It's HIS war now
LOL we know firsthand Afghanistan is where empires go to die.

The stock market was going to crash in any event even if Gore had won. It was the tech stocks that became unsustainable under Clinton's administration.
I believe that Bush won in y2k because he sued to have the military ballots included in the count. The military ballots were late in arriving before the deadline and that fact was highly suspect that there may have been collusion to exclude them because Bush '43 was popular with military personnel.
RitchieGuy
1 / 5 (3) Mar 12, 2012
Jews in Florida were heavily Democrat voters. But many of them didn't have the brains to fill out a ballot properly and they confused the voting with hanging chads, pregnant chads, etc. They probably voted for Gore en masse as a secular and religious Jewish voting bloc. They traditionally vote Democrat. Funny thing is, it's possible this year that the Jews won't be so fired up about voting for Democrat Obama because he doesn't seem to be as friendly with Netanyahu as American Jews would prefer. BUT, the die hard Democrat Zionists in America might prevail and reelect Obama.
Koch Brothers? George Soros? All Democrat supporters.
RitchieGuy
1 / 5 (4) Mar 12, 2012
ooops. . .I meant to say the Koch Brothers are Koch Brothers supporters.
I will be monitoring the drought in Malaga, Spain to find out when the drought ends.