Closest temperate world orbiting quiet star discovered

November 15, 2017, ESO
This artist's impression shows the temperate planet Ross 128 b, with its red dwarf parent star in the background. This planet, which lies only 11 light-years from Earth, was found by a team using ESO's unique planet-hunting HARPS instrument. The new world is now the second-closest temperate planet to be detected after Proxima b. It is also the closest planet to be discovered orbiting an inactive red dwarf star, which may increase the likelihood that this planet could potentially sustain life. Ross 128 b will be a prime target for ESO's Extremely Large Telescope, which will be able to search for biomarkers in the planet's atmosphere. Credit: ESO/M. Kornmesser

A team working with ESO's High Accuracy Radial velocity Planet Searcher (HARPS) at the La Silla Observatory in Chile has found that the red dwarf star Ross 128 is orbited by a low-mass exoplanet every 9.9 days. This Earth-sized world is expected to be temperate, with a surface temperature that may also be close to that of the Earth. Ross 128 is the "quietest" nearby star to host such a temperate exoplanet.

"This discovery is based on more than a decade of HARPS intensive monitoring together with state-of-the-art data reduction and analysis techniques. Only HARPS has demonstrated such a precision and it remains the best planet hunter of its kind, 15 years after it began operations," explains Nicola Astudillo-Defru (Geneva Observatory - University of Geneva, Switzerland), who co-authored the discovery paper.

Red dwarfs are some of the coolest, faintest—and most common— in the Universe. This makes them very good targets in the search for exoplanets and so they are increasingly being studied. In fact, lead author Xavier Bonfils (Institut de Planétologie et d'Astrophysique de Grenoble - Université Grenoble-Alpes/CNRS, Grenoble, France), named their HARPS programme The shortcut to happiness, as it is easier to detect small cool siblings of Earth around these stars, than around stars more similar to the Sun.

Many , including Proxima Centauri, are subject to flares that occasionally bathe their orbiting in deadly ultraviolet and X-ray radiation. However, it seems that Ross 128 is a much quieter star, and so its planets may be the closest known comfortable abode for possible life.

Although it is currently 11 light-years from Earth, Ross 128 is moving towards us and is expected to become our nearest stellar neighbour in just 79 000 years—a blink of the eye in cosmic terms. Ross 128 b will by then take the crown from Proxima b and become the closest exoplanet to Earth!

With the data from HARPS, the team found that Ross 128 b orbits 20 times closer than the Earth orbits the Sun. Despite this proximity, Ross 128 b receives only 1.38 times more irradiation than the Earth. As a result, Ross 128 b's equilibrium temperature is estimated to lie between -60 and 20°C, thanks to the cool and faint nature of its small red dwarf host star, which has just over half the surface temperature of the Sun. While the scientists involved in this discovery consider Ross 128b to be a temperate planet, uncertainty remains as to whether the planet lies inside, outside, or on the cusp of the habitable zone, where liquid water may exist on a planet's surface.

Astronomers are now detecting more and more temperate exoplanets, and the next stage will be to study their atmospheres, composition and chemistry in more detail. Vitally, the detection of biomarkers such as oxygen in the very closest exoplanet atmospheres will be a huge next step, which ESO's Extremely Large Telescope (ELT) is in prime position to take.

"New facilities at ESO will first play a critical role in building the census of Earth-mass planets amenable to characterisation. In particular, NIRPS, the infrared arm of HARPS, will boost our efficiency in observing , which emit most of their radiation in the infrared. And then, the ELT will provide the opportunity to observe and characterise a large fraction of these planets," concludes Xavier Bonfils.

This research was presented in a paper entitled "A temperate exo-Earth around a quiet M dwarf at 3.4 parsecs", by X. Bonfils et al., to appear in the journal Astronomy & Astrophysics.

Explore further: Newly discovered exoplanet may be best candidate in search for signs of life

More information: Paper: www.eso.org/public/archives/re … eso1736/eso1736a.pdf

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rini32
3.5 / 5 (4) Nov 15, 2017
Where do i sign up for a ride to this planet ? i mean only 11 ly, its spoonfed to us !
rrwillsj
1 / 5 (3) Nov 15, 2017
Huh, n3? You might want to wipe that gluttonous drool off your chin.

If there is a native biosphere to Ross 128 b? I'm guessing it's been around for a few billion more years than Earth's biosphere. Slower but more thorough evolutionary path.

Spoonfed? Yep. The indigenous might just find you a tasty treat.

Here, I'm such a nice guy. You can have my ticket!

No, no, please don't feel you owe me for it. I'll just stand over there with your women waving buh-bye. Consoling the poor dears. On your behalf of course. Cause, did I mention what a great guy I am?

Years ago there was a photo-cartoon. A picture of an elderly grouchy Amerindian on horseback, glaring at the ground. Walking behind him was an Amerindian woman looking up and waving at the sky. Where rocketships were blasting off for the stars. The caption read her yelling "Good Bye! Good Luck!"

And him muttering "Good Riddance!"
TrollBane
5 / 5 (2) Nov 15, 2017
"No, no, please don't feel you owe me for it. I'll just stand over there with your women waving buh-bye. Consoling the poor dears. On your behalf of course. Cause, did I mention what a great guy I am? " rrulllsj, Don't feel too smug. You haven't seen his women.
r2vettes
2.3 / 5 (3) Nov 15, 2017
Don't want to bring rain to the party, but for a planet to be in a red dwarfs habitable zone it must be very close. Certainly the planet would be tidal bound to the dwarf, regardless how well behaved the little star is. There's a host of other roadblocks, but I don't have time to mention.
Dr. Donald Hudson
holmes4
2 / 5 (2) Nov 16, 2017
Hmm, I thought Ross 128 sounded familiar.
6 months ago this same star was the subject of some excitement, when some very peculiar radio signals were received at Arecibo.

Google: Strange Signals from the Nearby Red Dwarf Star Ross 128

There were reports of both confirmation of this signal, and also failure to confirm by other radio telescopes, with some suggesting it might just be an intercept from a terrestrial comsat.
However, with the notion that an Earth-sized world with a surface temperature that may be close to that of the Earth, orbits Ross 128, and that it is the "quietest"* nearby star to host such a temperate exoplanet, well, it is an interesting coincidence, that it is also the source of "peculiar" radio signals.
*Quiet in this sense meaning a less threatening environment for a potentially habitable planet.
rrwillsj
1 / 5 (2) Nov 16, 2017
Well TB, to be honest, n2's women haven't seen me, either!

h4, if the 'coincidence' should arise, that you could serve on a jury at my trial? Please turn down the opportunity! Cause obviously you are unable to separate the concept of evidence from the concept of speculation.

holmes4
1 / 5 (1) Nov 16, 2017
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"Please Do Not Feed The Trolls"
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holmes4
1 / 5 (1) Nov 16, 2017
Lively debate, and informed discussion, should never be stifled. But if a poster repeatedly resorts to abusive, ad hominem nonsense, this site offers an excellent remedy.

Hover over the text of the post in question, and in the lower right corner "Ignore user" appears.

Disagree, most certainly yes...but respond with a respectful, coherent point.
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leetennant
4.3 / 5 (6) Nov 16, 2017
I shouldn't ask @chris_reeve but...what?
Captain Stumpy
4.3 / 5 (6) Nov 16, 2017
I shouldn't ask @chris_reeve but...what?
@leetennant
you're right... you shouldn't ask

now we'll get more gish-gallop and nonsensical eu based dogma slathered in fanatical religious propaganda

just report the posts and move on
jonesdave
3.5 / 5 (8) Nov 16, 2017
I shouldn't ask @chris_reeve but...what?


Yep. That way lies lunacy. This is the madman Thornhill's take on science. Nobody takes it seriously. I'm not even sure that he does. It'll probably turn out that he's been on a decades long pisstake of epic proportions.
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leetennant
4.5 / 5 (8) Nov 16, 2017
All the words are English. And yet...

I am sorry I asked. I won't do it again.
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jonesdave
3.7 / 5 (9) Nov 16, 2017
.....believing that planets can move around inside of the illuminated envelopes of stars.


Right, so given the surface temperature of a red giant can be around 5000K, how do you propose that life might arise? In fact, how do you propose that rock might survive? And only the very coolest of brown dwarves (Y-type) may have temperatures at which life might arise, and not all of them will be cool enough. And if the planet is circling within the gas atmosphere of the brown dwarf, where do you propose that the sunlight presumably needed for intelligent life might come from? Do you think an atmosphere primarily composed of H and He would be conducive to life arising? What would the pressures be? You don't have to penetrate Jupiter's atmosphere too deeply before that becomes a problem.
No, I really don't think we need to spend any more time on Thornhill's inane ramblings.
jonesdave
3.7 / 5 (9) Nov 16, 2017
How about T-class brown dwarves?

In 2014, astronomers were able to map features in the atmosphere of T-class brown dwarf Luhman-16B. The "clouds" are believed to be droplets of molten iron and minerals, floating in an atmosphere of hydrogen at 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit (1,100 degrees Celsius).


https://www.space...hic.html

Not my idea of fun!
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Captain Stumpy
4.2 / 5 (6) Nov 16, 2017
@chris/hannes the pseudoscience eu idiot cult member
It's a riot that somebody can go online and explain a completely workable hypothesis for the origin of life in the universe and a solution to the Fermi Paradox, to boot -- and yet, the person will still be downvoted.
you've been repeatedly presenting a known pseudoscience and continuing to lie while spamming the site with either thunderdolts bullsh*te or your own personal blog of eu dogma wrapped in dunning-kruger based delusion

that isn't a solution to anything other than a new religion, which is anti science, which is why you're downrated
Just don't forget that these comments are a form of public record
which is why you're typically ridiculed as the public record has repeatedly vindicated science and proven the eu is nothing but a scam of pseudoscience idiocy

if it were science it would adhere to the scientific method and have predictability, etc etc etc
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jonesdave
3.7 / 5 (9) Nov 16, 2017
You surely realize that some red and brown stars are going to be too dim for us to even have noticed them yet, no?


No red giant atmosphere is going to be at a temperature conducive to life! End of story. And like I say, only the coolest Y dwarves will be cool enough. Where would they get light for photosynthesis? In a H & He atmosphere? And what glowing plasma? Sorry, but this is fruitloop territory. I cannot think of a more unlikely place for life to arise. Which is why Thornhill is the only person to think of it. And then only on a woo site.

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Captain Stumpy
3.4 / 5 (5) Nov 16, 2017
@chris/hannes the pseudoscience eu idiot cult member
There are consequences for these behaviors. You guys only take it all for granted as normal because you weren't taught the story of Goddard in a manner which taught the lesson of his ridicule
here is another story:
Newton said
The six primary Planets are revolv'd about the Sun, in circles concentric with the Sun, and with motions directed towards the same parts, and almost in the same plane. . . . But it is not to be conceived that mere mechanical causes could give birth to so many regular motions. . . . This most beautiful System of the Sun,

Planets, and Comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent and powerful Being
and yet we have proven this false (repeatedly)

perhaps it is you who should learn from history?
because apparently you never learned that science isn't about belief - which is all that the eu have ever presented

2Bcont'd
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jonesdave
3.9 / 5 (7) Nov 16, 2017
Re: "I cannot think of a more unlikely place for life to arise."

Well, that's because you didn't see it in a textbook.


No, it's because I am not fooled by utter crap from woo merchants, and have access to the data I need to see that it is utter crap.
Captain Stumpy
4.4 / 5 (7) Nov 16, 2017
@chris/hannes the pseudoscience eu idiot cult member
That's a really dumb grade school bully response, Stumpy
is it?

i've tried rational discourse with you and it lead to you continually making unsubstantiated claims based upon your belief (religion)

you have yet to be able to provide a factual evidence based response from reputable sources (pseudoscience)

you can't find any scientific means to refute the debunked eu cult dogma (delusion and faith)

you argue "history" when you should argue from the point of evidence (strawman and delusion)

you continually spam with known false claims while refusing to accept proven validated science (delusion, dunning-kruger and religious fanaticism)

what other response should there be when you refuse to deal with anything on any rational or objective level during discourse?

there is left the only method to deal with a troll ...

PS - forbes is not a science journal, and the eu is NOT SCIENCE
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Captain Stumpy
4.3 / 5 (6) Nov 17, 2017
@chris/hannes the pseudoscience eu idiot cult member
(Stumpy left his computer and flipped the bot back on.)

so... what you're saying is that you're essentially apathetic to fact based science and you'll choose to spread your religion and denigrate facts and scientists who work hard to present objective results regardless?

thanks for validating my points above

and you wonder why you're ridiculed?

really?
jonesdave
3.3 / 5 (7) Nov 17, 2017
.....which is right about the limit of coldest survivable conditions for extremophiles on Earth."


And what have extremophiles got to do with the Fermi paradox? Hell, those things might be around on Mars. Who knows, even in the atmospheres of other planets, at a pinch. No way are you getting a technological civilization evolving in those circumstances!
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Captain Stumpy
4 / 5 (4) Nov 17, 2017
@chris/hannes the pedo pseudoscience eu idiot cult member
The story of Adam and Eve carries forward a number of Pagan references ... who Adam and Eve were really supposed to be.
and there you have it!
when all else fails: baffle them with bullsh*t

today, reeve/hannes shows us how to completely derail any logical scientific discourse with a gish-gallop tactic using religion as a foundation to extrapolate delusional belief!

1- choose a random irrelevant religious belief that has been proven to be fabricated and plagiarized other religions

2- use the word "archetypes"

3- randomly copy/paste your personal religious beliefs while tangentially keeping a tenuous thread about survival

4- insert random personal complaints about how mainstream science is failing while not comprehending how it works

you must use so much random stupidity with occasional links that no one will read it unless they're bored or a true fanatic like chris/hannes

maybe we should mimic it?
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jonesdave
3 / 5 (6) Nov 17, 2017
....but it will also vindicate claims made 18 years ago by Wal Thornhill.


Errr, no. His electric sun woo is still woo, with zero evidence to back it up (nor even a working model). Secondly, he is talking about planets orbiting within the atmosphere of a star!!! NASA, nor anybody else,are even looking there (how would they). And nobody in their right minds would believe that intelligent life could arise in such circumstances. The 'mainstream' are doing what they've been doing for a few decades - looking for exoplanets orbiting other stars. As opposed to being fried by them within their atmospheres.
So, no. Thornhill will still be ignored long after he's gone, and none of his woo will be any more accepted then than it is now. It's just silly Velikovskian woo. Nobody takes it seriously. Nor ever has.
Captain Stumpy
4 / 5 (4) Nov 17, 2017
@chris/hannes the pedo pseudoscience eu idiot cult member
Even his insults -- "pedo" -- are faddish
using the exact same tactic you are using

i've provided a point of fact
if you can refute it, then you should provide the evidence
Perhaps he understands that the entire world was once steeped in these Pagan traditions, but he refuses to ask why?
1- no religion is relevant to science or the scientific method

2- i know a whole lot more about "pagan" religions than you ever will

3- some religions are part of cultural identity and were established as a means to subjugate others in order to feed the growing power base

most importantly:
absolutely none of it is relevant to factual objective science using the scientific method

because it's subjective and irrelevant

as for your claims about the origin of life: i follow the evidence
i don't care what archetype is presented in religion because it is irrelevant to the science

PS - wal has proven false WRT eu woo
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rrwillsj
3 / 5 (6) Nov 17, 2017
The reason to ridicule those believers of the written mythology propagated the last five thousand years?

For the same reason you ridicule your teenagers with stories about when they were babies playing with the shit from their diapers.

It's just plain fun!
jonesdave
3 / 5 (6) Nov 17, 2017
Just because something is glowing does not mean it is hot. .....


Dear God, the ignorance of that remark! Hint: blackbody spectrum. It's not a frigging lightbulb!
https://spacemath...ge55.pdf

No doubt, according to Reeve, Planck will be wrong. Purely because it is yet more evidence that the evidence-free woo he believes in is wrong. Just like gravity must be wrong, because Velikovsky said Venus could do handbrake turns around the solar system. And comets don't have the density of rock, etc. Every piece of well arrested science that shows the EU nutty ideas to be wrong, must therefore be wrong itself, because EU nutty ideas MUST be right! Because the genius Thornhill said so! Great logic, that. Occam's razor? EU nutty ideas are wrong.
jonesdave
3 / 5 (6) Nov 17, 2017
And here's another way of measuring temperature for a brown dwarf:

BENCHMARK TRANSITING BROWN DWARF LHS 6343 C: SPITZER SECONDARY ECLIPSE
OBSERVATIONS YIELD BRIGHTNESS TEMPERATURE AND MID-T SPECTRAL CLASS
Montet, B. T. et al.
http://iopscience...1/L6/pdf

Yep, about 1100K. Toasty!
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jonesdave
3 / 5 (6) Nov 17, 2017
Black body physics is an entire controversy in its own right


No, it isn't. And you know when you have to post youtube links (which are broken) that you have lost the argument.
And I invented nothing. I posted links to well established science. Which you need to dismiss because it proves your woo wrong. You are the only one looking desperate, believing a civilization could develop on a planet within the atmosphere of a brown dwarf! Nobody in their right mind believes that. All you've got is an unqualified woo merchant on a crank site spouting this idiocy. No science. Zilch. It is pure woo. Which would be why nobody takes it seriously.
rrwillsj
3 / 5 (6) Nov 18, 2017
Well, C_R keeps shoveling the manure of EU superstition! In the desperate hope there is a unicorn hiding in there, somewhere.

Sorry C_R but the unicorns were too late trying to board the paperhat ark. You're going to have to settle for a pet rhinoceros. Cuddly, I'm sure!
torbjorn_b_g_larsson
not rated yet Nov 18, 2017
Don't want to bring rain to the party, but for a planet to be in a red dwarfs habitable zone it must be very close. Certainly the planet would be tidal bound to the dwarf, regardless how well behaved the little star is. There's a host of other roadblocks, but I don't have time to mention.
Dr. Donald Hudson


In what sense would tidal lock be a "roadblock"? Some planets will be inhabitable for it, others will have substantially less net primary productivity than they could have. But climate models have shown that it seldom makes a planet in the habitable zone inhabitable. (E.g. with global ice or desert cover.)
torbjorn_b_g_larsson
3.7 / 5 (3) Nov 18, 2017
Re the claim by the pseudoscientist here, of course astrobiologists have considered life potentials of other systems than cellular (hydrocarbon based) ones, But it is both problematic - what would be the template for life - and less likely . we know that life can emerge out of geology.

Those problems have nothing to do with "mainstream" research topics as such, any more than the here displayed Galileo defense has. (E.g. the pseudoscientist erroneous logic of 'they criticized Galileo, he was correct; they criticize me, therefore I must be correct'.)
TheGhostofOtto1923
3 / 5 (2) Nov 18, 2017
The example of Robert Goddard comes to mind
"I knew Robert Goddard and you sir are no Robert Goddard."

I paraphrase.
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jonesdave
3.4 / 5 (5) Nov 19, 2017
It's great to get people to go on record with their ridicule. When I run into important instances like this, I generally try to screen capture it.

Friendly reminder once again that this is a PUBLIC forum and your comments here will be picked apart by people from the future, who will have the benefit of hindsight. The people here should be more concerned about ridiculing things which they don't fully understand, for there is also a risk that you could become famous for all of the "wrong" reasons.


Sorry, what has Thornhill's idiocy of planets giving birth to intelligent lifeforms, within the atmospheres of red giants and brown dwarfs, have to do with this story anyway? As you say, he wrote that tripe 18 years ago, and the people of the future are looking at it, and calling it impossible crap.
Captain Stumpy
5 / 5 (2) Nov 19, 2017
@chris/hannes the pedo pseudoscience eu idiot cult member
...will be picked apart by people from the future, who will have the benefit of hindsight
that threat runs both ways

and considering you're entire argument surrounds supporting a known pseudoscience that has been repeatedly debunked with evidence, it should tell you a lot about where your problem lies and how you will be viewed by "people from the future"

but then again, your comments are already being noticed by people now
- mostly it's psychiatrists and psychologists studying irrational delusional beliefs though
jonesdave
3 / 5 (4) Nov 20, 2017
As quoted by Capt. S.;
but then again, your comments are already being noticed by people now
- mostly it's psychiatrists and psychologists studying irrational delusional beliefs though


Lol. Made me laugh!
rrwillsj
1 / 5 (1) Dec 06, 2017
Ten years or so ago, I was taking a Prep Course for a degree in Clinical Psychology.

About that time, I was involved (on another site) with a string of rather nasty debates and fulminating commentaries.

I collected those postings and used them for my thesis project.

Our instructor was impressed enough with my analysis. He awarded me the second A he had given in his course in four years.

Of course now days, if I or anyone else was collecting such data? We would be required to post our intent. Even the mentally challenged and ideologically/theocratic driven and cult "True Believers" need to give whatever consent they are capable of.

And, bye the way. Over the years, one of the consistent delusions I have grappled with trying to understand. Is the cultists belief of vast conspiracies denying them their glorious ascension to the mastery of the scientific community.

Yet here you are, perpetrating infantile tantrums against empirical evidence all over the internet.

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