EU to set out negotiating stand for Paris climate summit

A demonstrator carries a placard reading, "Je suis Planet Earth" ("I am Planet Earth") during The People's C
A demonstrator carries a placard reading, "Je suis Planet Earth" ("I am Planet Earth") during The People's Climate march in central London on March 7, 2015

The European Union is due Friday to formally set out its negotiating stand for the UN climate summit in Paris, including committing to 40 percent greenhouse gas emission cuts over 1990 levels.

The environment from the 28-nation EU will meet in Brussels to set out their "vision for the architecture" of a global deal in the French capital where heads of state and government are to meet from November 30, an EU source said Thursday.

In October last year, EU leaders agreed to cut greenhouse gas emissions by at least 40 percent by 2030 over a benchmark of 1990, and push for 27 percent targets for renewable energy supply and efficiency gains.

The source who asked not to be named told AFP the ministers would stick to their central pledge, hailed as one of the world's most ambitious targets.

But he said it was not yet clear what position the ministers would take on longer term targets.

In a speech in Brussels last month, EU Climate and Energy Commissioner Miguel Arias Canete called for "a long-term target to collectively reduce global emissions by at least 60 percent by 2050 compared to 2010 and be near zero or below by 2100."

The source said the ministers would push for a regular post-summit review to strengthen efforts to fight climate change, but could not confirm they would back previous calls for such a review every five years.

In line with UN goals, the source said, the ministers will reaffirm the need to limit global warming to no more than two degrees Celsius (3.6 degrees Fahrenheit) over pre-industrial levels, which scientists see as key to avoiding catastrophic drought, floods and sea level rises.

The source expected the EU ministers will push for measures to make sure governments match words with deeds.

"Nationally determined targets must be backed by multilaterally agreed rules on transparency and accountability," Canete said last month.

The ministers are also expected to support a "legally-binding" agreement.

The EU, the source said, will continue supporting calls from poor and developing nations, among the most threatened by , which are insisting rich counterparts show how they intend to meet a promise made in 2009 of $100 billion (90 billion euros) in climate finance annually from 2020.

The UN Paris conference will seek to crown a six-year effort by 195 nations with a post-2020 pact on curbing greenhouse gases.


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Sep 17, 2015
Remaining climate change believers be warned and news editors be warned!

Is THIS how you want your kids remembering you;
CO2 science couldn't ever say "PROVEN" for a CO2 Armageddon after 34 years of climate action failure so be happy not disappointed the greenhouse gas ovens were not real for billions of innocent children.

Sep 18, 2015
Do we still have Deniers?

Really?

Sep 18, 2015
Do we still have Deniers?

Really?

Do we still have psychopaths?

Really?

"The World has only one problem, Psychopaths. There are two basic types of Psychopaths, Social and Anti-Social. The essential feature of Psychopaths is a Pervasive, Obssesive- Compulsive desire to force their delusions on others. Psychopaths completely disregard and violate the Rights of others..."

-Everyone must do their part to expose the Enemy Within.

Sep 18, 2015
I think the paranoids are after otto.

Meanwhile, we on Earth have to find ways to undo some of the damage we have inflicted on Ma Nature.

Sep 18, 2015
gkam - There is no Ma Nature, or Mother Earth. There is only the "Earth", or "our planet".
Don't be a new age twit. Next you're gonna be calling the animals "little furry folk".

Sep 18, 2015
Do you have some comment on the issue?

Oh, . . . .

Sep 18, 2015
A comment - ok dumbass, why not call something what it really is, dumbass?
The article is about a global climate change summit, dumbass. Which concerns the planet, dumbass, not some mythical Mother Jones fairyland which exists only in your head, dumbass. So dumbass, in the interest of correctness and scientific fact, dumbass, call the planet by its real name.

I like how you try to call people on rules that you break yourself at least 10 times a day.

While I agree with the goals of the summit, like you do, at least TRY not to sound like an ancient hippie.

Sep 18, 2015
I guess you are incapable of an educated opinion on the issue, relying on more silly name-calling.

And as a Vietnam Vet, I can tell you the hippies were right.

Sep 18, 2015
I stated that I agreed with the goals of the summit. Was that uneducated?
Not much of a Vet., to quit in the middle of a war. You said you were in Thailand, now it's Vietnam? The story changes every day.

Sep 18, 2015
And as a Vietnam Vet, I can tell you the hippies were right.
And we hippies cried for you man. What a mess that was,

Sep 19, 2015
Estavan, are you through?

Can you rise above your petty little ego to discuss the topic? Or, unable to debate, you attack the messenger?

All of the bombing of North Vietnam came from outside the country. All those Hanoi Hilton prisoners were airmen were from Yankee Station or Takhli, Korat, Ubon, Udorn, Nakkon Phanom, Sattahip, or other US base. Laugh all you want about us being non-combatant electronic technicians, we lost 22 of us while I was in the outfit, and 33 just before I got in, orbiting the battlefields in unarmed and slow aircraft, 24/7/365 for years.

Where were you hiding?

Sep 19, 2015
Well, gkam , since I hadn't posted in 18 hours, I suppose I was done.

Attack the messenger? Who made you a messenger? Delusions of adequacy much?
Calling someones' ego petty and and small only shows the contrast with yours, which is huge and unjustified.

Unable to debate? What was debated, Georgie? You asked if I had a comment, so I made one.
You called it uneducated, I pointed out that it agrees with the article and asked if it still uneducated. DO YOU READ WHAT IS POSTED BEFORE YOU POST?

As far as being off topic "And as a Vietnam Vet, I can tell you the hippies were right." is as far out as anything.

I don't give a flying fuck about your so called service. You lie about everything else why should I believe that?
You are a stupid ass to suggest I would laugh about someone being a noncombat tech.
Just like my father was. In the same damned war.


Sep 19, 2015
I was "hiding" in the third grade, asshole. Then, during my fathers' second tour I "hid" in the fifth grade.
His second tour was during the time where you quit and came home.

Where were you hiding?


Sep 19, 2015
No quitting in a war. If your dad had served, you would know that. If he was a tech, have him look us up. We can talk technical stuff.

But I was sick of being part of it. Maybe you think it was "glorious", or something. I did not.

We were killing people in their own country so we could install our choice of crook in the Presidential Palace.

Sep 19, 2015
"No quitting in a war." " But I was sick of being part of it." - gkam

Then you have a lot of nerve asking people where they were hiding, asshole.

If you don't think it was glorious, then why do you consider not enlisting as hiding? Asshole.

And why would I consider a war that separated my family as a kid glorious? Asshole.

And why mention it in this comment section? No-one asked you, and it has absolutely nothing to do with the article.

As my dad would say: "That gkam fella sure is a dipshit".

Sep 19, 2015
All of the bombing of North Vietnam came from outside the country
-Yet another example of something you felt free to make up because of your 'experience'.

"Cam Ranh Air Base served as a United States Air Force tactical fighter base, the first in South Vietnam to base the F-4C Phantom II tactical fighter-bomber... The 12th TFW was the first permanently assigned F-4C Phantom II wing assigned to Southeast Asia. In time, the F-4C took over the bulk of the heavy tactical bombing over both North and South Vietnam."

-Plenty of bombers in vietnam. And I assume some of their pilots ended up in the hanoi hilton.

Sep 19, 2015

All of the bombing of North Vietnam came from outside the country.

No gham, bombing missions over North Vietnam also flew out of Da Nang.

Sep 19, 2015
viet Vet, you are correct. I forgot about my friend who worked the F-4's at Da Nang. We did include a few bases in the South.

Sep 21, 2015
viet Vet, you are correct. I forgot about my friend who worked the F-4's at Da Nang. We did include a few bases in the South.
No you forgot that you cant come here and lie and fabricate and pretend youre something you are not, without being exposed.

And you cant pretend you knew something you didnt know, and just forgot.

Who the fuck do you think you are?

"Let us assume that in a dispute, one side is innocent, honest, and tells the truth. It is obvious that lying does an innocent person no good; what lie can he tell? If he is innocent, the only lie he can tell is to falsely confess "I did it." But lying is nothing but good for the liar. He can declare that "I didn't do it," and accuse another of doing it, all the while the innocent person he has accused is saying "I didn't do it," and is actually telling the truth.

Sep 21, 2015
"The basic assumption that the truth lies between the testimony of the two sides always shifts the advantage to the lying side and away from the side telling the truth. Under most circumstances, this shift put together with the fact that the truth is going to also be twisted in such a way as to bring detriment to the innocent person, results in the advantage always resting in the hands of liars - psychopaths."

-We know EXACTLY what you are.

Sep 21, 2015
When one hears of a goal to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, one thinks that they must mean C02, and use of fossil fuels.

Let's hope that they're considering the impact that this will have for the prosperity of humanity, and nature. This paper lines out how use of fossil fuel has been good for humanity and nature alike.

http://object.cat...a715.pdf

We all want a clean Earth. How we get there is no light question to ponder.

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