China aims to be first to land probe on moon's far side

September 9, 2015
This is a composite image of the lunar nearside taken by the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter in June 2009, note the presence of dark areas of maria on this side of the moon. Credit: NASA

China's increasingly ambitious space program plans to attempt the first-ever landing of a lunar probe on the moon's far side, a leading engineer said.

The Chang'e 4 mission is planned for sometime before 2020, Zou Yongliao from the Chinese Academy of Sciences' moon exploration department told state broadcaster CCTV in an interview broadcast on Wednesday.

Zou said the mission's objective would be to study geological conditions on the moon's far side, also known as the dark side.

That could eventually lead to the placement of a radio telescope for use by astronomers, something that would help "fill a void" in man's knowledge of the universe, Zou said.

Radio transmissions from Earth are unable to reach the moon's far side, making it an excellent location for sensitive instruments.

China's next is scheduled for 2017, when it will attempt to land an unmanned spaceship on the moon before returning to Earth with samples. If successful, that would make China only the third country after the United States and Russia to have carried out such a maneuver.

China's lunar exploration program, named Chang'e after a mythical goddess, has already launched a pair of orbiting lunar probes, and in 2013 landed a craft on the moon with a rover onboard.

China has also hinted at a possible crewed mission to the moon.

China sent its first astronaut into space in 2003 and has powered ahead with a series of methodically timed steps, including the deploying of an experimental space station.

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KBK
not rated yet Sep 09, 2015
The biggest mystery that an individual can investigate in the 21st century is to look at and ask, why are humans not on the moon?

Such comments get poo-pooed here in this venue..but.... the answers to that mystery, are going to be in the alternative press and in alternative writing.

There is no sense, economically, scientifically, technologically, by a rate of many many factors, to step off the earth via space stations, or via going to mars.

All of that is, in all ways, incredibly mind numbing bull of the worst kind. The only viable starting point, a person will find, if they investigate with open mind and open reason (outside of mainstream publications), is that the moon is ~the~ singular correct off planet base for humans to begin with. Bases on the moon would have easily been self-sustained by now - long ago, in fact.

We can photograph tissue paper on the earth, from space, yet you've never seen the extant similar imagery from the plethora of moon mappings.........??
gkam
1.4 / 5 (9) Sep 09, 2015
They will need an orbiter.
antigoracle
2.3 / 5 (3) Sep 09, 2015
Hmmm...China probes the backside of the moon. Does that excite you gskam?
docile
Sep 09, 2015
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TheGhostofOtto1923
3.7 / 5 (9) Sep 09, 2015
They will need an orbiter.
They have orbiters.

"The first spacecraft of the program, the Chang'e 1 lunar orbiter, was launched from Xichang Satellite Launch Center on 24 October 2007,[3] having been delayed from the initial planned date of 17–19 April 2007.[4] A second orbiter, Chang'e 2, was launched on 1 October 2010.[5][6] Chang'e 3, which includes a lander and rover, was launched on 1 December 2013 and successfully soft-landed on the Moon on 14 December 2013. It will be followed by a sample return mission, Chang'e 5 scheduled for 2017."

-You would have known this if you had bothered to look it up.
holoman
5 / 5 (1) Sep 09, 2015
Press release wish list don't get the job done.

China needs to boast when they actually land on the moon.
gkam
1.4 / 5 (9) Sep 09, 2015
China has been pretty good about achieving its goals in space so far. That's a good place to be, too, for a military.

It's time for a Treaty For a Nuclear-Free Moon.
Uncle Ira
3.5 / 5 (8) Sep 09, 2015
China has been pretty good about achieving its goals in space so far. That's a good place to be, too, for a military.

It's time for a Treaty For a Nuclear-Free Moon.


Dang Skippy, even with otto-Skippy advising you,,,,,,, twice in the same article,,,,,

http://www.un.org...FZ.shtml

http://disarmamen...er_space
someone11235813
5 / 5 (2) Sep 09, 2015
China aims to be first to land probe on moon's far side


Not on purpose.
Solon
not rated yet Sep 09, 2015
I wonder if they will have a camera on the lander that can do a little astrophotography, give us a first visible light view of the stars and planets from the surface. The camera on Chang'e 3 doesn't seem to be up to the task.
TheGhostofOtto1923
3.5 / 5 (8) Sep 10, 2015
Dang Skippy, even with otto-Skippy advising you,,,,,,, twice in the same article
Ahaahaaaaa what a moron.
Tuxford
1 / 5 (7) Sep 11, 2015
The biggest mystery that an individual can investigate in the 21st century is to look at and ask, why are humans not on the moon?

Because the moon is occupied. That is why Apollo was cut short, and why we were not allowed real-time feeds on TV from the Apollo 17 EVA's. I was sitting in the NASA auditorium during that second long EVA. I watched the feed during that rainy Houston evening. I know NASA is hiding what they know about the moon.
PhotonX
5 / 5 (5) Sep 13, 2015
I wonder if they will have a camera on the lander that can do a little astrophotography, give us a first visible light view of the stars and planets from the surface. The camera on Chang'e 3 doesn't seem to be up to the task.
No offense, but that's pointless. Why go to great expense to land a telescope on the Moon when far better images of stars and planets can be taken just as well from Earth or from space?
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mytwocts
4.6 / 5 (10) Sep 13, 2015

Because the moon is occupied. That is why Apollo was cut short, and why we were not allowed real-time feeds on TV from the Apollo 17 EVA's. I was sitting in the NASA auditorium during that second long EVA. I watched the feed during that rainy Houston evening. I know NASA is hiding what they know about the moon.

So you watched "Iron Sky". Now take your pills.
https://www.youtu...4yATniS4
victoryengineer
3.5 / 5 (8) Sep 16, 2015
The biggest mystery that an individual can investigate in the 21st century is to look at and ask, why are humans not on the moon?

Because the moon is occupied. That is why Apollo was cut short, and why we were not allowed real-time feeds on TV from the Apollo 17 EVA's. I was sitting in the NASA auditorium during that second long EVA. I watched the feed during that rainy Houston evening. I know NASA is hiding what they know about the moon.


Please tell me you're joking.
Vietvet
5 / 5 (7) Sep 16, 2015


Please tell me you're joking.


He's not.
victoryengineer
3.5 / 5 (8) Sep 16, 2015
There must be a serious flaw in my mind. I'm still taken aback by the likes of JVK, Viko, and by others espousing their own brands of ridiculous beliefs on a science site.

Does this site not have moderators?
Captain Stumpy
5 / 5 (4) Sep 17, 2015
Does this site not have moderators?
@victoryengineer
not really... maybe 4 times a year they come in and delete some of Zephir's accounts... the site admin take care of the bots
that's about it: that is also why the pseudoscience, crackpots and others flourish here
the site is unmoderated and accessible to the anonymizers or bots (I also suggest using a host file and a lot of protection, from AV to anti-malicious software and a firewall)
There must be a serious flaw in my mind. I'm still taken aback by the likes of JVK, Viko, and by others espousing their own brands of ridiculous beliefs on a science site
nothing wrong with you
if you consider the typical crackpot a religious acolyte, then read up on things like this:
http://www.ploson...tion=PDF

they literally cannot see the problem, nor the lack of logic
it is their problem, not yours
(also being studied as well)
gkam
1.7 / 5 (6) Sep 17, 2015
victoryengineer, wait until you upset one of the lurkers here, one who actually BRAGGED about being here under pseudonyms to play his "games" with us. Once you cross otto, he will camp on you, screaming dirty words in ALL CAPS, then go mono-maniac.

With his continual personal attacks and his taunting of me not getting any more work now as a consultant because of his attacks, it is obvious he has crossed the legal threshold of internet libel.

PhysOrg is an accessory, since I have repeatedly asked for a moderator. I hope they see I flagged my own post.
Uncle Ira
3.3 / 5 (7) Sep 17, 2015
me not getting any more work now as a consultant because of his attacks, it is obvious he has crossed the legal threshold of internet libel.


glam-Skippy. How you are Cher? Still can not think of anything smart to say, eh? That was a good one to mark up so we can find him again quick. So let me see if I understand what you are telling there.

You come to the physorg and post up your real name.

Then you make a bunch of Commander McBragg postums that no normal person could do.

Then you make hundreds of postums trying to prove your lies and it's so lame that the peoples make the fun with you and laugh a bunch.

And all your potential customers (that were not exactly lining up for your services anyway) happened to stop by phyorg on their way over to your office to hire you and got put off and went back home.

Cher you got the serious mental conditions.

PhysOrg is an accessory,


Yeah, that is what I said Cher. The serious mental conditions.
Estevan57
4 / 5 (4) Sep 17, 2015
Commander McBragg! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha .

Let's see one more time... You don't like it here, but you crave the attention. Many here don't like you, but can't get you to leave.

gkam, there is an obvious solution to your problem - Viagra
Go take some and get the attention you crave from your wife (whose name everyone can find, thanks) and leave us the F*** alone.

We may not all like each other here, but it is certain that you are ass enough to make us all agree that you stink.

Why would someone get power advice from someone so biased?
gkam
1 / 5 (5) Sep 17, 2015
"you are ass enough to make us all agree that you stink."
--------------------------------

I'm sorry, but your response tells us more about you than it does about me.

Do you have a response to the plans of China to land on the far side of the Moon? Or are you here for "games"?
Estevan57
4 / 5 (4) Sep 18, 2015
I call them like I see them gspam.
I'll have a massive "Go China" party to to celebrate what our celestial comrades have shown the world.
You wouldn't know a game if it hit you, old one. And it's a free forum, everyone has their reasons to be here. What are yours? Not enough business to keep you busy?
gkam
1 / 5 (5) Sep 18, 2015
" And it's a free forum, everyone has their reasons to be here. What are yours? Not enough business to keep you busy?"
-------------------------------

I've been retired for years. Are you expelled from school?

And once again, the far side of the Moon is a great place for a radio telescope.
TheGhostofOtto1923
4 / 5 (4) Sep 18, 2015

Because the moon is occupied. That is why Apollo was cut short, and why we were not allowed real-time feeds on TV from the Apollo 17 EVA's. I was sitting in the NASA auditorium during that second long EVA. I watched the feed during that rainy Houston evening. I know NASA is hiding what they know about the moon.

So you watched "Iron Sky". Now take your pills.
https://www.youtu...4yATniS4
Naw come on its the transformers.
https://www.youtu...Eb7S0mhg

-I wouldnt want to go back there either.
TheGhostofOtto1923
3 / 5 (6) Sep 18, 2015
George Kamburoff whines
With his continual personal attacks and his taunting of me not getting any more work now as a consultant because of his attacks, it is obvious he has crossed the legal threshold of internet libel
-but then he says
I've been retired for years
-So I suppose you would need to provide evidence that you were actually working during retirement and not exceeding your max income re social security.

But if it makes you feel better I havent had any work since you called me a monomaniac. Of course I wasnt working beforehand but you ruined my potential which really hurts. I feel Im due compensatory damages.
PhysOrg is an accessory, since I have repeatedly asked for a moderator. I hope they see I flagged my own post
Like I say if they had any interest at all you would have been gone long ago. Youve consistently violated every one of their guidelines.

Like ira says, this is what happens when you LIE under your real name. You get exposed.
TheGhostofOtto1923
2.3 / 5 (3) Sep 18, 2015
And its not going to stop.
geokstr
1 / 5 (1) Sep 24, 2015
I hear China has already set up a state of the art sound stage in Arizona where they'll film the landing.

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