How to build a very large star (Update)

March 27, 2013, University of Toronto

( —Stars ten times as massive as the Sun, or more, should not exist: as they grow, they tend to push away the gas they feed on, starving their own growth. Scientists have been struggling to figure out how some stars overcome this hurdle.

Now, a group of researchers led by two astronomers at the University of Toronto suggests that baby stars may grow to great mass if they happen to be born within a corral of older stars—with these surrounding stars favorably arranged to confine and thus feed gas to the younger ones in their midst. The astronomers have seen hints of this collective feeding, or technically "convergent constructive feedback," in a giant cloud of gas and dust called Westerhout 3 (W3), located 6,500 light-years from us. Their results are published in April in The Astrophysical Journal.

"This observation may lift the veil on the formation of the most massive stars which remains, so far, poorly understood," says Alana Rivera-Ingraham, who led the study while she was a graduate student in the Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics at the University of Toronto, Canada, and is currently a postdoctoral researcher at the Institut de Recherche en Astrophysique et Planétologie in Toulouse, France.

To study the formation of high-mass stars, Rivera-Ingraham and collaborators used high-quality and high-resolution far-infrared images from a space telescope launched by the European Space Agency in 2009—the Herschel Space Observatory. This telescope's two cameras recorded light that is not visible to the naked eye, spanning a range from infrared radiation partway to the microwave region. Exploiting these cameras, scientists including Peter Martin, Professor in the Canadian Institute for Theoretical Astrophysics at the University of Toronto, created the HOBYS Key Program to study the birth of very massive stars in nearby giant clouds of gas and dust in our own galaxy, including W3. Research on HOBYS at the University of Toronto is supported in part by the Canadian Space Agency and the Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of Canada.

Scientists track the regions of the gas cloud where stars are about to form by mapping the density of dust and its temperature, looking for the most dense regions where the dust is shielded and cold. "We can now see where stars are about to be born before it even happens, because we can detect the cold dust condensations," says Martin. "Until Herschel, we could only dream of doing that."

Stars are born in the denser parts of gas clouds, where the gas gets compressed enough by gravity to trigger nuclear fusion. The more massive the newborn star, the more visible and ultraviolet light it emits, heating up its surroundings—including the dust studied by Herschel.

"The radiation during the birth of high-mass stars is so intense that it tends to destroy and push away the material from which they need to feed for further growth," says Rivera-Ingraham. Scientists have modeled this process and found that stars about eight times the mass of our Sun would stop growing because they run out of gas.

But astronomers do see stars that are more massive than this theoretical limit. And by looking at W3, Rivera-Ingraham and her collaborators have found clues to how this might be possible.

The researchers noticed that the densest region of the cloud, in the upper left of the image, was surrounded by a congregation of old high-mass stars. It is as if previous generations of large stars enabled the next ones to grow also massive, and close to each other. The scientists suggest that this is no coincidence: each generation of stars might have created the right conditions for another generation to grow comparably or even more massive in its midst, ultimately leading to the formation of a rare, massive cluster of high-mass stars

Like young high-mass stars, older stars also radiate and push gas away. If such older stars happen to be arranged favorably around a major reservoir of gas, they can compress it enough to ignite new stars. The process is similar to the way a group of street cleaners armed with leaf blowers can stack leaves in a pile—by pushing from all sides at the same time. This corralling of dense gas can give birth to new, high-mass stars.

A large newborn star will push its food source away, but if it is surrounded by enough large stars, these can keep nudging gas back at it. With such collective feeding at play, the young star could grow very massive indeed.

Next on the to-do list of the astronomers is to test their idea by simulating the situation with computer modeling, by measuring gas motions, and by comparing their results with data from other giant clouds studied by HOBYS. Only then will they be able to discern the mechanism—collective feeding or not—that gives rise to high-mass stars in these giant clouds.

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1 / 5 (5) Mar 28, 2013
Or rather than invent a special condition for condensation, maybe the large star blowing wind is simply growing largely from within, from a natural process producing new matter seemingly from nothing. This concept is abhorrent to the conventional mind, and thus will inspire substantial rejection from conventional wisdom brains. Afterall, it goes against a lifetime of experience. Still, it fits the observation better than the explanation offer here.

That such gas blowers are often grouped together is also part of LaViolette's SQK model, as stars in proximity to other matter have accelerated nucleation rates. The trick of the mind is too understand that in this model, nuclear particles are not objects; they are self-sustaining ongoing transmutation reactions of underlying components too small to detect by the far larger 'objects' of our universe. And these underlying components are constantly diffusing, providing the source of fuel for the ongoing reactions.
5 / 5 (4) Mar 28, 2013
That such gas blowers are often grouped together is also part of LaViolette's SQK model, ..

Are you talking about his Tired Light model from the mid 1980s that is trivially disproven by supernovae observations or has he come up with something new?
1 / 5 (3) Mar 28, 2013
Are you referring to the earlier study later discredited by this one?

Resting the intellect on earlier conclusions which remain unexamined lead to dead ends in science, like the Huge Bang Fantasy.
5 / 5 (3) Mar 28, 2013
Are you referring to the earlier study later discredited by this one?

No, as I said I was talking about supernovae, not quasars. The relevant paper is this one though it was just the first, all supernovae show this effect:

Hawkins' work on quasars would work but he needs data over a longer timespan. His claims that quasars don't show time dilation was refuted last year:

Resting the intellect on earlier conclusions which remain unexamined lead to dead ends in science, like the Huge Bang Fantasy.

You are the one pushing a thirty year old paper from a crank website that hasn't addressed any of the recent data which blatantly refutes it.

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