(PhysOrg.com) -- Sometimes you just dont know whether to laugh, cry or be alarmed when hearing about what the boys in secretive back rooms are doing in the name of antiterrorism, or homeland security, or whatever else they wish to call it. This time it seems, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), the semi-secret agency charged with coming up with new and cool ways to protect the citizens of the United States from foreign bad guys, wants to hire someone to figure out how vulnerable some people are to narratives (oral stories, speeches, propaganda, books, etc. that cause people to think) and then, supplant such messages with better messages to head off the path that for such people might lead them to becoming a terrorist.
Called the Narrative Networks project, DARPA has released a solicitation for research proposals by those that have both the know-how and the technology to implement such a program, which is divided into two parts. The first part would involve analyzing what happens to people when they hear or see a message. Its thought that certain messages or images actually cause a change in the brain to accommodate the new ideas.
The second part of the study, quite naturally, would involve developing a means for taking advantage of what is learned in the first part. Or, in other words, to come up with a way to find out who is vulnerable to messaging, and then to blast them with a message that would overwrite any undesirable brain changes that occurred as the result of that person being subjected to bad messages, so that they would behave themselves.
At first blush, such a program would appear to be scary as all get out; after all, if our government gets its hands on technology that could reprogram people who have come to feel things the government doesnt like, it seems like a really good way to control them, including its own population. On second thought though, as reality starts to kick in, it appears that while some research in this area might bear some fruit, its highly doubtful that any such program would meet with much success. After all, governments (and other entities) have been trying to figure out how to brainwash people for thousands of years with very little to show for their efforts.
On the other hand, the folks at DARPA seem to think that new advances in technology might have changed the game a little bit. New types of brain scans can, for example, can actually show a brain being changed due to a received message. And new highly sophisticated electronic sensing devices are able to pick up even the slightest nuances in facial expressions. If the two technologies could be brought together, the thinking goes, perhaps people could be scanned without their knowledge and found to be either vulnerable to messaging or already changed in some way by messaging from a suspect source. In such case, they could be targeted for specialized messaging that has been shown through research to be effective in overriding what has occurred in their unknowing noggins.
Each phase is supposed to go for 18 months though there doesnt appear to be any component of the project that calls for publicly publishing results found or describing product deliveries after completion.
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gopher65
1 / 5 (3) Oct 20, 2011All that said, a neat form of brainwashing *is still brainwashing*. I find it hard to believe that the people working on this are dumb enough to think that it would be misused almost immediately upon creation.
knikiy
3 / 5 (2) Oct 20, 2011OldBlackCrow
4.4 / 5 (7) Oct 20, 2011When I was 20 years old and read the book, I honestly didn't think stuff like that would happen in my lifetime ... now, I'm 45 years old and much of it already has. And they even have the audacity to advertise it.
Nerdyguy
1 / 5 (2) Oct 20, 2011Gammakozy
2 / 5 (8) Oct 20, 2011WRONG - It got a totally unqualified community organizer elected as president of the (at the time) most powerful country in the world.
Jeddy_Mctedder
1 / 5 (4) Oct 20, 2011someone is gonna get fired for this project.
everytime darpa gets away from hard engineering or sometimes even pure science, they waste money and get in trouble.
LVT
2.7 / 5 (7) Oct 20, 2011SR71BlackBird
5 / 5 (6) Oct 20, 2011eachus
4.5 / 5 (8) Oct 20, 2011Where is this going? Economics, physics, chemistry, and statistics, all require this math as a base. The other hard and soft sciences have all reached the point where they can't be understood absent the other sciences.
Without math the individual is left to choose whichever narrative they will believe. Often this choice is made based on a pretty irrational basis. In a sane world, who would care about the economic beliefs of movie stars or fashion models? The math is there. Anyone who wants to can work through the math and verify most of modern economics. If you can't, then what you are taught in church, or temple, or mosque must be true, right?
kaasinees
1.2 / 5 (5) Oct 20, 2011YawningDog
5 / 5 (2) Oct 20, 2011I think this statement qualifies as propaganda itself. The first goal is to try to convince people they are not being propagandized.
Propaganda achieved its goal in WWI & WWII in convincing the American public that all Germans were evil and deserved death. And now it convinces the public that Israel is not evil despite using the same methods against their neighbors that Germany did.
Propaganda rules.
hard2grep
1.8 / 5 (5) Oct 20, 2011Grizzled
2 / 5 (4) Oct 21, 2011Absolutely. I don't know where you are from but, in my country we had a tax reform early this year. It never ceases to amaze me how people can't do the simple arithmetics. What the government did was to transfer part of tax burden from the earning part of it (income tax) to spending (VAT/GST or whatever name is used in your country).
They were VERY careful to make sure the change is not only [almost] neutral but, in fact, slightly in favor of the tax payer. Not by much but some.
This can be proven with a calculator and some basic maths. Yet, both myself and the few people who can count are fighting a losing rear-guard action against those who can't balance their own cheque books and think they were ripped off.
jaydee
5 / 5 (2) Oct 22, 2011Otto1882
3.5 / 5 (4) Oct 22, 2011This is one of the most egregiously ignorant and dangerous statements I have ever read on an otherwise respectable site.
I am curious, how can the author, Bob Yirka, make such a profoundly false statement? One with even the most elementary knowledge of history and knows the opposite to be true.
If governments (and other entities) weren't successful at brainwashing how do wars get started? How can populations of different regimes have such radically different perspectives? Hell, how would lay people have such strong opinions regarding AGW?
This author, Bob Yirka, is either incredibly ignorant or is himself an active part of the very propaganda he writes of.
Callippo
1 / 5 (5) Oct 22, 2011Cynical1
1 / 5 (3) Oct 22, 2011Jotaf
4 / 5 (1) Oct 23, 2011Of course, you're supposed to think that... *evil laugh*
Objectivist
5 / 5 (2) Oct 23, 2011Isaacsname
3.7 / 5 (3) Oct 23, 2011--------
People, people, people. When I became re-interested in learning science, physics and math a few years ago, which admitedly I have large, but rapidly filling gaps in my understandings, I started to notice that in almost all cases in public forums, whenever anything approaching science comes up for discussion, you can learn proper science by reading the laypeople statements ( which are sometimes not even wrong ), looking up the correct information, which in most cases is the opposite of what is usually bantied around. Incredible ! I've learned a great deal by this method. I honestly am in awe at some of the things people believe. This is frighteneing how easily sophisms and syllogistic fallacies are used to deceive people.
Wait a minute...my lower chakras are starting to tingle....the rupture...it's happening....my frequency is being raised....
..oh no, sorry..my ass fell asleep from sitting too long.
Cynical1
1 / 5 (2) Oct 23, 2011So, if Vonnegut wrote a book about it 50 years ago, who's to say it isn't already happening on some level, right now?
Turritopsis
1 / 5 (4) Oct 23, 2011Here is the kicker. The only way to permanently alter thought is by continual manipulation, or/, by destroying the neurons permanently which leaves all thoughts impossible other than those allowed (programmed).
If the continual signal is lost, regular logical deduction ensues. The brain resets to normal.
This study is worthless unless their plan is to create permanently disabled brains.
It is easy to temporarily affect thinking but given time a person is able to reason back to reality.
What I'm saying is this: this study is either a waste of taxpayers money, or, it is the most evil plan for population control ever conceived. This is straight out of a madscientists handbook
Jotaf
not rated yet Oct 23, 2011Just ranting here, but damn, you can't just say it's "a simple matter of changing energy paths".
Turritopsis
1 / 5 (3) Oct 23, 2011Any human being that takes an anti-socialistic political stance is a mentally sick individual.
Turritopsis
1 / 5 (3) Oct 23, 2011It is easy to affect a persons thoughts. Admittedly, it is difficult to generate a preconceived thought within that individual. Nothing a few nights of study can't discover though.
joedonbaker
5 / 5 (1) Oct 24, 2011In short, being good at math is useless without a critical evaluation of the context of the mathematical outcome.
powerup1
1 / 5 (3) Oct 24, 2011@Gammakozy, would you like some sugar with your tea? :-)
Nerdyguy
1 / 5 (1) Oct 24, 2011Just take a couple billion people living in awful conditions, poor, uneducated and unlikely to ever be anything more. Next, begin spreading the rumor that all of your problems are really the fault of the Great Satan. Let's say the USA for short. And explain that Allah is certain to expect you to kill as many of these people as possible in order to make it all better.
Works like a charm.
Jotaf
5 / 5 (1) Oct 24, 2011Works like a charm."
-Fixed.