ISPs, movie, music, TV groups in copyright deal

July 7, 2011 by Chris Lefkow
Major US Internet Service Providers (ISPs) and music, movie and television industry associations unveiled a long-awaited agreement on Thursday aimed at curbing online copyright infringement.

Major US Internet Service Providers (ISPs) and music, movie and television industry associations unveiled a long-awaited agreement on Thursday aimed at curbing online copyright infringement.

The Copyright Alert System calls for ISPs to send a series of email notices to Internet subscribers whose accounts have been identified by content owners as illegally downloading music, movies or television shows.

After five notices, subscribers could be subject to "mitigation measures" by an ISP, including temporarily reducing their Internet speed or redirecting their account to a landing page with information about copyright infringement.

The voluntary agreement does not oblige the ISPs to take punitive action, however, which they have been reluctant to do in the absence of a court order.

ISPs will not provide customers' names to rights owners and subscribers can seek an "independent review," at a cost of $35, to determine the validity of an infringement claim.

The Center for Copyright Information, a new group founded by the ISPs and entertainment associations, stressed that the alert system "does not, in any circumstance, require the ISP to terminate an Internet subscriber's account."

But digital rights groups Public Knowledge and The Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) warned that it "lists Internet account suspension among the possible remedies" to copyright infringement.

"Today's agreement has the potential to be an important educational vehicle that will help reduce online copyright infringement," Public Knowledge and the CDT said in a joint statement.

"A voluntary, notification-centric approach can sidestep many of the serious concerns that would be raised by government mandates, the adoption of new snooping or filtering technologies, or a draconian 'three strikes' approach centered on disconnecting Internet users," they said.

"But whether the agreement will meet its educational promise or instead will undermine the rights of Internet users will depend on how it is implemented," they said.

"We believe it would be wrong for any ISP to cut off subscribers, even temporarily, based on allegations that have not been tested in court."

Participating ISPs will begin sending out copyright alerts later this year and next year.

AT&T, Cablevision, Comcast, Time Warner Cable and Verizon signed on to the agreement along with the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA), Independent Film & Television Alliance (IFTA) and the American Association of Independent Music (A2IM).

US ISPs already forward copyright violation notifications from content owners to subscribers but the new agreement standardizes the practice.

The Center for Copyright Information and supporters said the escalating notification system will help reduce online copyright violations.

"We are confident that, once informed that content theft is taking place on their accounts, the great majority of broadband subscribers will take steps to stop it," said James Assey, executive vice president of the National Cable & Telecommunications Association (NCTA).

RIAA president Cary Sherman said the "groundbreaking" agreement ushers in a "fresh approach to addressing the digital theft of copyrighted works.

Verizon general counsel Randal Milch described the agreement as "a sensible approach to the problem of online-content theft and, importantly, one that respects the privacy and rights of our subscribers."

The Obama administration welcomed the agreement.

"The administration is committed to reducing infringement of American intellectual property as part of our ongoing commitment to support jobs, increase exports and maintain our global competitiveness," said Victoria Espinel, the US Intellectual Property Enforcement Coordinator.

"The joining of Internet service providers and entertainment companies in a cooperative effort to combat online infringement can further this goal and we commend them for reaching this agreement," Espinel said. "We believe it will have a significant impact on reducing online piracy."

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5 / 5 (4) Jul 07, 2011
Mak'n sure the rich get richer.
4.4 / 5 (5) Jul 07, 2011
People don't want to pay $20 a person to see a movie, surrounded by strangers, watching on a grainy state of the art screen, wearing used glasses that has who knows whats germs all over it. Paying 500% mark up for a bag of popcorn or m&m's isn't fun in this economy. So we americans get to wait even longer to see american movies made by americans. Of course, if you do have $20 to blow on a movie in some lame theater instead of using it for gas, food, or to keep your house, you still won't be the first to see the movie, cause they're always released overseas first! Perhaps, if they released the movies in the country that SUPPORTS them, there would be a little less issues on the piracy problem? While you're at it, slash those stink'n ticket costs too. Theaters aren't the ones in control of those prices, the sharks mentioned above are.

But no. These turds like the attention. The power. The money. Don't do something smart, just do something greedy, right?
5 / 5 (4) Jul 07, 2011
This as a function, right from the far as I can tell.... is wholly illegal to be doing. This is remote viewing without a warrant, and guilty before prosecution/indictment.

This needs to be attacked and knocked down before it approaches any court or law making system.

The problem is that there are already laws against what they are trying to do. Like the crap coming out of western governments as of recent, they are simply ignoring the laws of the land.

And then... people are dumb enough to 'let it go', People sure got stupid and weak when it comes to protecting themselves against big corporatized governments -this...over the past 30 years or so.

Long story, but it is well known to have been sourced back to the corporate response to the US people's response to the Vietnam war. The faces behind the corporations mounted a war on human freedom (at that time, approx year 1970) that has not slowed-since.

They have perfected their methods and ways, while you were sleeping.
5 / 5 (6) Jul 07, 2011
So if im downloading some copyrighted shit that i already own, like movies and music which have been lost/destroyed over the years I guess my isp will send me notices ASSUMING that i dont already own the shit im trying to fucking download.

Eat shit and die copyright nazis!
5 / 5 (7) Jul 07, 2011
ISPs realize that without piracy - that the majority of people paying $90 a month for highspeed would no longer have a reason to do so. You don't need, or use FIOS just to send text emails.

Theater prices are astronomical and entirely unjustified given the overall lack of quality.

not rated yet Jul 08, 2011
I watched a new release movie in a theater in Aruba while on vacation. It cost $7 USD for two people to watch it($3.50 each). The had large screens, and better digital projectors.

I don't know where the mark ups happen in Canada, but obviously theater pricing is pure gouging($12-15 per person).
2.3 / 5 (3) Jul 08, 2011
I looked into owning a theater once and found out why the high markups on snacks. They actually make virtually nothing on the movies themselves due to overhead and fees they have to pay to the film companies. The concessions are where they make a profit. It IS too expensive, I agree. I'm just passing on the info.

By the way, it used to be that if you couldn't afford something, you went without. Now days, it appears that people fully endorse stealing. Somehow because it's digital, it's okay. Would you walk into a music or video store and physically take the product? Hopefully you wouldn't for more reasons that you don't want to get caught. Downloading illegally is the same thing, but with no one watching, you justify your actions by calling them greedy b*stards and think it's your right to just take it. It's stealing and it's wrong.
2.6 / 5 (5) Jul 08, 2011
online-content theft

You cannot steal digital content. It's physically impossible unless you yourself drive down to their server hall and yank the hard drive out of the machine.

A copy is not a theft.
5 / 5 (1) Jul 08, 2011
Remember there use to be a time one could record music off the radio and listen to it. A time when someone could record a tv movie/show and save it. These days, you can get in trouble for doing that.... if it's copyrighted?
5 / 5 (1) Jul 08, 2011
Good luck you greedy bast***s! Start sniffing our ISP packets like that and torrents will get encrypted :-P
5 / 5 (1) Jul 08, 2011
"We are confident that, once informed that content theft is taking place on their accounts, the great majority of broadband subscribers will take steps to stop it,"

...or they'll feel violated and your whole plan will backfire. Changing ISPs isn't rocket science.
1.3 / 5 (4) Jul 08, 2011
People don't want to pay $20 a person to see a movie,

Its $15 for outstanding visual projection full digital high quality sound in broad clean seats with plenty of leg room a nearby bar and a fun candy bar. Even with $10 of Popcorn and a choc top thats just $25 of petty cash.

Think of it as fun and consider the price an investment in a business that provides you with entertainment.

No to $25 - scrooge would be proud of ya all.

5 / 5 (1) Jul 08, 2011

No to $25 - scrooge would be proud of ya all.

I'm sorry, but for $25 I can feed myself for half a week. It seems extremely frivolous to spend that amount of money for two hours of entertainment and a candy bar.

1 / 5 (3) Jul 08, 2011
I am sadly sorry for you too. $25 bucks gets me through a good breakfast with coffee ($12) and morning tea ($6) with a fresh fruit smoothie($7) before a late fresh salad lunch. Then of course I put petrol in my car because I enjoy my car. I do understand that if youre living on mashed potatoes or rice bowls then you have no choice but to download whatever you can for free, perhaps lurking in a McDonalds carpark to get free wireless internet on an old laptop that fell off the back of a truck. $25 is frivolous petty cash for many especially for good quality fun.
5 / 5 (1) Jul 08, 2011
$25 is frivolous petty cash for many especially for good quality fun.

You obviously are one of the few that were not affected by the "recent" economic downturn.

For a large majority of the population 25$ is in fact a lot of money.

Does anyone remember when CD's came out and they were touted as being cheaper for the Recording industry, and that it would result in lower prices for recorded music?

I used to be able to get a tape for 8 bucks. 12-24$ for a cd is a little nuts.

As soon as the TV companies offer all their TV shows for download so i can view at my own leisure, and make them available when they're aired on TV .. THEN i will stop my downloads.

Then again i'm not really worried about this new move. All my ISP can see is that i download a lot of encrypted information.

2.8 / 5 (4) Jul 08, 2011
The media industry has lived a fat life and they have been used to it. The greed is driving them to insanity. You go to a movie theater and you watch 20 minutes of advertising, I did not pay for that. You buy a dvd and you watch 20 minutes of advertising, I did not pay for that. You buy a song online and its the same price as the CD but without any media and DRM on top of that. Don't they realize we are living in a technology era and people will find ways around their silly policies. Last time they went after Kazaa, torrents spawned and delivered a massive blow to content piracy. I am eagerly awaiting the release of the next version of peer to peer protocol to counteract this silliness. Or, even better, I am hoping for another nation to put a satellite in orbit on top of the US and provide real broadband internet speeds like the rest of the world. 250GB per month translates to 96KB/S. This is what happens when you have retards as politicians and CEO's. FAIL
4 / 5 (1) Jul 11, 2011
I would certainly go to the cinema a lot more if it was cheaper. In south England it's £8-10 per person, without the extra £5 per person for food & drink(although I usually sneak my own in). For a couple that's £30 to see 1 movie, which is insane.
Gladly I now have Orange Wednesdays (2 for 1), so may get to go a little more often.

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