Precise Radio-Telescope Measurements Advance Frontier Gravitational Physics

September 1, 2009
Sun's Path in Sky in Front of Quasars, 2005

( -- Scientists using a continent-wide array of radio telescopes have made an extremely precise measurement of the curvature of space caused by the Sun's gravity, and their technique promises a major contribution to a frontier area of basic physics.

"Measuring the curvature of space caused by gravity is one of the most sensitive ways to learn how Einstein's theory of relates to quantum physics. Uniting gravity theory with quantum theory is a major goal of 21st-Century physics, and these astronomical measurements are a key to understanding the relationship between the two," said Sergei Kopeikin of the University of Missouri.

Kopeikin and his colleagues used the National Science Foundation's Very Long Baseline Array (VLBA) radio-telescope system to measure the bending of light caused by the Sun's gravity to within one part in 30,000. With further observations, the scientists say their precision technique can make the most accurate measure ever of this phenomenon.

Bending of starlight by gravity was predicted by Albert Einstein when he published his theory of General Relativity in 1916. According to relativity theory, the strong gravity of a massive object such as the Sun produces curvature in the nearby space, which alters the path of light or radio waves passing near the object. The phenomenon was first observed during a in 1919.

Though numerous measurements of the effect have been made over the intervening 90 years, the problem of merging General Relativity and quantum theory has required ever more accurate observations. Physicists describe the space curvature and gravitational light-bending as a parameter called "gamma." Einstein's theory holds that gamma should equal exactly 1.0.

"Even a value that differs by one part in a million from 1.0 would have major ramifications for the goal of uniting gravity theory and , and thus in predicting the phenomena in high-gravity regions near black holes," Kopeikin said.

To make extremely precise measurements, the scientists turned to the VLBA, a continent-wide system of ranging from Hawaii to the Virgin Islands. The VLBA offers the power to make the most accurate position measurements in the sky and the most detailed images of any astronomical instrument available.

The researchers made their observations as the Sun passed nearly in front of four distant quasars -- faraway galaxies with supermassive black holes at their cores -- in October of 2005. The Sun's gravity caused slight changes in the apparent positions of the quasars because it deflected the coming from the more-distant objects.

The result was a measured value of gamma of 0.9998 +/- 0.0003, in excellent agreement with Einstein's prediction of 1.0.

"With more observations like ours, in addition to complementary measurements such as those made with NASA's Cassini spacecraft, we can improve the accuracy of this measurement by at least a factor of four, to provide the best measurement ever of gamma," said Edward Fomalont of the National Radio Astronomy Observatory (NRAO). "Since gamma is a fundamental parameter of gravitational theories, its measurement using different observational methods is crucial to obtain a value that is supported by the physics community," Fomalont added.

Source: National Radio Astronomy Observatory (news : web)

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3.9 / 5 (63) Sep 02, 2009
Very neat.

" According to relativity theory, the strong gravity of a massive object such as the Sun produces curvature in the nearby space"

Wrong. GR states that there IS no gravity. The space-time curvature is due to the objects mass.
not rated yet Sep 02, 2009
unrelated question.

If,satellite shades were stationed in orbit to block light from reaching only the uninhabited zoned of the north and south poles during their sun lit seasons, say about hundred miles radius would that decrease melting and change weather patterns? And how large would they have to be and how high in orbit would they have to be stationed?
3.9 / 5 (60) Sep 02, 2009
The balance of conditions for life on this planet is precarious, it's not something that 'scientists' who have done a 180 from global cooling to global warming within a span of 30 years,... should be screwing with!

I don't trust mans knowledge of nature to be doing things like that. I would have more confidence if man could prevent cancer, or starvation, or wars,... these things would show that man is master of reality, rather than just arrogant, stupid, and niave.

Global warming doesn't scar me nearly as much as a bunch of politically motivated knuckleheads seeking to 'fix' it.
not rated yet Sep 03, 2009
This theme appears to underlie almost all AGW denial, at the base. It's a basic mistrust in government, most strident in the USA. Why that may be is immaterial, but it's unfortunate that a scientific issue which IS of real concern worldwide has to get bound up in that sort of politics.

I would ask Noumenon and others. If in fact, that single issue could be gotten past or remediated, eg if implementing the solutions could be taken out of the hands of a "bunch of politically motivated knuckleheads seeking to 'fix' it", would your opinion regarding AGW than become more agnostic?
3.8 / 5 (62) Sep 03, 2009
Your question is pointless, because the AGW theory is intimately tied to politics. The current AGW movement is politically motivated by the left, it is designed to change economies fundamentally,.. it is a foot-in-the-door for social engineering, which is the entire mind set of the left. This should be clear when the UN for example makes politically motivated and unscientific statements like "We have just four months. Four months to secure the future of our planet.", .. or when they add 5mph to hurricanes as due to GW. ...
3.8 / 5 (62) Sep 03, 2009
To answer your question, no I would not be an agnostic about it, in fact, I would be all for it, as i'm all for energy efficiency, i.e. nuclear power, which the left has been against in the USA.

The only way of implementing solutions without ad-hoc social engineering, the only way your question could make sense,... is to do so naturally, that is, within the mechanism of existing free-market capitalism.

How? It is already a known fact that oil will become increasingly expensive to extract, thus the price will rise naturally as a function of supply and demand, thus alternative energy markets will open up motivating investment and so, will be able to compete naturally in a free market context. Ultimately the 'problem' will solve itself.

The left are button-pushers with regard to society and economies. Their solutions are ad-hoc, forced, unnatural, and are motivated by socialistic agenda's, like redistribution of wealth.
not rated yet Sep 11, 2009
So does QM explain the bending of light with gravitons as GR does with the bending of spacetime?

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