Room temperature superconductivity: One step closer to the Holy Grail of physics

Jul 09, 2008

Scientists at the University of Cambridge have for the first time identified a key component to unravelling the mystery of room temperature superconductivity, according to a paper published in today's edition of the scientific journal Nature.

The quest for room temperature superconductivity has gripped physics researchers since they saw the possibility more than two decades ago. Materials that could potentially transport electricity with zero loss (resistance) at room temperature hold vast potential; some of the possible applications include a magnetically levitated superfast train, efficient magnetic resonance imaging (MRI), lossless power generators, transformers, and transmission lines, powerful supercomputers, etc.

Unfortunately, scientists have been unable to decipher how copper oxide materials superconduct at extremely cold temperatures (such as that of liquid nitrogen), much less design materials that can superconduct at higher temperatures.

Materials that are known to superconduct at the highest temperatures are, unexpectedly, ceramic insulators that behave as magnets before 'doping' (the method of introducing impurities to a semiconductor to modify its electrical properties). Upon doping charge carriers (holes or electrons) into these parent magnetic insulators, they mysteriously begin to superconduct, i.e. the doped carriers form pairs that carry electricity without loss.

The essential conundrum facing researchers in this area has been: how does a magnet that cannot transport electricity transform into a superconductor that is a perfect conductor of electricity? The Cambridge team have made a significant advance in answering this question.

The researchers have discovered where the charge 'hole' carriers that play a significant role in the superconductivity originate within the electronic structure of copper-oxide superconductors. These findings are particularly important for the next step of deciphering the glue that binds the holes together and determining what enables them to superconduct.

Dr Suchitra E. Sebastian, lead author of the study, commented, "An experimental difficulty in the past has been accessing the underlying microscopics of the system once it begins to superconduct. Superconductivity throws a manner of 'veil' over the system, hiding its inner workings from experimental probes. A major advance has been our use of high magnetic fields, which punch holes through the superconducting shroud, known as vortices - regions where superconductivity is destroyed, through which the underlying electronic structure can be probed.

"We have successfully unearthed for the first time in a high temperature superconductor the location in the electronic structure where 'pockets' of doped hole carriers aggregate. Our experiments have thus made an important advance toward understanding how superconducting pairs form out of these hole pockets."

By determining exactly where the doped holes aggregate in the electronic structure of these superconductors, the researchers have been able to advance understanding in two vital areas:

(1) A direct probe revealing the location and size of pockets of holes is an essential step to determining how these particles stick together to superconduct.

(2) Their experiments have successfully accessed the region betwixt magnetism and superconductivity: when the superconducting veil is partially lifted, their experiments suggest the existence of underlying magnetism which shapes the hole pockets. Interplay between magnetism and superconductivity is therefore indicated - leading to the next question to be addressed.

Do these forms of order compete, with magnetism appearing in the vortex regions where superconductivity is killed, as they suggest? Or do they complement each other by some more intricate mechanism? One possibility they suggest for the coexistence of two very different physical phenomena is that the non-superconducting vortex cores may behave in concert, exhibiting collective magnetism while the rest of the material superconducts.

Source: University of Cambridge

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nano999
3.8 / 5 (13) Jul 09, 2008
I hope superconductivity is mastered in time to solve some of our energy problems. Researchers seem to be rapidly closing in on the secrests of superconductivity. I've read a lot of news stories during the last 1-2 years that detailed some pretty impressive discoveries.

The Singularity cometh...Praise Science!
googleplex
4.1 / 5 (12) Jul 09, 2008
I second your opinion.
Good article too. I hadn't grasped that by its very nature super conducting cannot be probed at the nano level without destroying or altering it. It's intuitively obvious now I think about it.
Here's another approach; if we had a good micro simulation computer model of the material down to the electon cloud level then surely the process could be observed and analysed 'in silica'. That would be one cool PhD project. Of course it would require vast computational power.
Mombo_Dogface
3.5 / 5 (10) Jul 09, 2008
I see that we could have 100% of electricity conducted with superconductors, but what percentage are we at now with today's technology? What percentage is lost now?
earls
1.7 / 5 (13) Jul 09, 2008
serially
Arikin
4.1 / 5 (8) Jul 10, 2008
Mombo,
According to wikipedia loss was about 7.2% in the USA back in 1995. But it really depends on much and how far in addition to real world conditions.

http://en.wikiped...n#Losses
lowbatteries
4.5 / 5 (6) Jul 10, 2008
Thanks Arikin, it was a good question and I had no clue where to find the answer.

I can see how this would open up whole new possibilities in everything from transportation to microchips.
Alexa
4.2 / 5 (11) Jul 10, 2008
Good article too.
Unfortunatelly it seems, the only new information is the sentence:

"The researchers have discovered where the charge 'hole' carriers that play a significant role in the superconductivity originate within the electronic structure of copper-oxide superconductors".

Such sentence doesn't say very much about progress in understanding.
johanfprins
1.7 / 5 (11) Jul 10, 2008
A superconductor is a conducting dielectric material. Even in the low temperature metals superconduction iniates when a metal-insulator transition occurs by the mechanism that had been proposed by Wigner in 1938: i.e. a Wigner-crystal forms. This stationary array of states superconducts when its electronic-orbitals act as pseudo-particles which can cyclically change positions when allowed to do so by Heisenberg's uncertainty relationship for energy and time. Since during their movement from one position to the next, the kinetic energy is on loan, there is no energy which requires heat-dissipation. Therefore the resistance is zero. These charge-carriers could be bosons but need not be bosons. Cooper-pairs most probably do not exist. Cooper derived them by assuming a metal with a spherical Fermi-surface. These are exactly the metals which do NOT superconduct. Furthermore Cooper-pairs gain kinetic energy which require heat dissipation. In addition a Cooper-pair (with its associated positive phonon charges) moves throufg the metal as a neutral entity. Such an entity cannot be resposnible for charge-transfer. Superconduction within the CuO ceramics occurs between the layers where the required stationary orbitals form from electrons donated by donors within the crystallographic layers. The holes are the positive charges which remain behind within the layers. It is easy to prove that the CuO ceramics have reached their ceiling. To generate superconduction at room temperature an extra aspect needs to be addressed. I hold a patent on this: AND IT WORKS!.
seanpu
4.4 / 5 (8) Jul 10, 2008
ok cool so whats the patent number so we can have a look
googleplex
2.8 / 5 (5) Jul 10, 2008
It should be noted that superconducting breaks down when you increase the current (above mA magnitude I recall). So even if they overcome the temperature issue we might still be limitated with the current.
IMHO the 7.2% power distribution loss on wikipedia is suprisingly low. That means what we use today is 92.8% superconducting. The small gain in efficiency would not justify the cost of upgrade even if high temperature high current superconductors become available.
Mombo_Dogface
3.3 / 5 (4) Jul 11, 2008
Arikin, thank you for the help!

googleplex, I believe you have something there.
I don't know anything about this but there must be a ton of money being spent on this research just to get back that extra few percent (if that is the correct percentage) that we lose. It doesn't make sense to me either. There must be some other benefits related to achieving superconductivity at room temperature that I just don't know about.
holmstar
4 / 5 (4) Jul 11, 2008
johanfprins said:
I hold a patent on this: AND IT WORKS!.


Sure, yeah.... me too. Why is this place so full of nut-cases?
thales
3 / 5 (3) Jul 11, 2008
Yeah, no joke! I would be interested if anyone knows of a good website that keeps an index of pseudoscience and crackpot theories and debunks them. www.junkscience.com does not qualify.
Sparkygravity
3.3 / 5 (3) Jul 12, 2008
actually the power loss is significant. We currently have situations of power loss so great we switch from AC to DC... We transport the electricity in DC which has a lower loss for specific transport cases (large voltage-long transmission line), and then convert it back in to AC and introduce it to local power grids.
superhuman
5 / 5 (4) Jul 12, 2008
It should be noted that superconducting breaks down when you increase the current (above mA magnitude I recall). So even if they overcome the temperature issue we might still be limitated with the current.
IMHO the 7.2% power distribution loss on wikipedia is suprisingly low. That means what we use today is 92.8% superconducting.


If you want to think of our networks as 92.8% superconducting then remaining 7.2% is not conducting at all...


The small gain in efficiency would not justify the cost of upgrade even if high temperature high current superconductors become available.


The biggest promise is not in large scale power transmission but in new technologies it would allow and huge costs savings in areas where we have to use liquid helium and nitrogen now to achieve superconductivity (like MRI, NMR, particle accelerators, etc).
NeilFarbstein
4 / 5 (1) Jul 13, 2008
Superhuman is saying that the current power networks would gain 7.2% in efficiency if superconducting power lines were discovered and we really don't want superconducting lines. Those lines would make it possible to make more use of hydro-power and renewable resources and already existing power plants could supply electricity to distant places that are currently outside the range of current power plants since the transmission efficiency drops to much lower efficiencies. Currently power plants have to be built within 200 miles of their customer's. Nonpolluting sources of electricity could supply more elecricity if superconducting wire becomes available.
WolfX5
5 / 5 (1) Jul 13, 2008
Well, it turns out that our Mr. Johan F Prins may not be a "nut-case" after all. Here is an abstract from 2006 that I found online where he discusses his diamond-based ion-injection method for superconductivity. I leave it for those more qualified than I to judge it on its own merits...

full abstract:
arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0607227
Soylent
3 / 5 (1) Jul 14, 2008
Currently power plants have to be built within 200 miles of their customer's. Nonpolluting sources of electricity could supply more elecricity if superconducting wire becomes available.


This is just not true. HVDC lines have losses of about 3% per 1000 km. That's a ~10% loss over 2 000 miles.

It's not that you have to situate plants within 200 miles, it's just that utillities make sane choices. Efficiency isn't the problem, it's cost, security and utillity.

I don't see the cost going down with super-conductors, especially not with fragile ceramic materials.

Being dependent on a huge central transmission line from across the continent is a huge security issue; it can throw half the continent into rolling black-outs for days or weeks due to bad weather or any old fool sabotaging the lines in the middle of nowhere. This is not unfixable; build many independent transmission lines across the continent or build local back-up generation that just sits idle for years at a time until it's needed; both are enormously costly propositions.

It's also quite futile; it doesn't help wind and solar power all that much as the weather is highly correlated across areas that can be a significant portion of an entire continent. You're still going to need obscene quantities of storage and back-up generation(your old friends coal and gas). I don't see how you're ever going to be competitive on cost, safety or CO2 emissions with nuclear power.
CaptSpaulding
not rated yet Jul 14, 2008
Our patent guy REALLY needs to post his own sources if he's going to be making grandiose claims about commonly held beliefs (like the non-existance of cooper pairs). While much of the BCS and related theories don't accuratly predict much of anything in Type II SCs, they are incredibly accurate (at least for relatively simple models) in describing Type I SCs. Cooper pairs (which are paired in reciprocal space, not in "typical" space) are one of the few things that haven't been disproven to exist in Type IIs and more exotic superconductors.

If people are curious about current SC cable projects, see here:http://www.amsc.c...les.html and http://www.superp...php?p=19 (these are the two leading manufacturers of superconducting cable in the world). There are still relatively tiny losses (~1%) associated with these systems as they still need to be cooled.

Soylent, no one is suggesting replacing ALL power lines with one big one. Seriously, where did you get that one from. Redundancy will always be a hallmark of large scale infrastructure. Superconducting lines will be able to help alleviate alot of brownout events because they will allow for other generation facilities in the country to help provide power. Current power generation is only limited to 200-400 miles in the United States (based off of a conversation I've had with DOE officials) due to losses from copper. There is no large scale AC to DC to AC conversion in the US that I have ever heard of. If you could provide information on this (beyond Edison loosing big time on the whole concept), I'd be interested.

Also, googleplex, the superconducting transition is based off of current density. Actually, all materials will eventually break down if you pass too much current through them (though it's usually becuase you heat them up due to internal resistance, which increases with temperature i.e. it will cascade at higher currents. This is contrasted with SCs killing themselves by generating their own internal magnetic field to expel the generated magnetic field from electron movement and therby breaking the cooper pairs, which will coincidentally result in a VERY rapid temperature change afterwards when the SC "quenches" and will often BOIL itself when it goes resistive). I've personally seen (by running the experiment) a 1 um by 100 um cross-section of superconducting film carry 10 Amps of current. To put this in perspective, this correlates to 200 Amps if the 1 um film is 1 cm in width (aka Amps/cm-width). This level is where American Supercondutor was producing 2-3 years ago on the small scale. Now they are producing better than this on larger scales of ~270 A/cm-width at 70 meters of continous length(see http://www.amsc.c...Progress in HTS Coated Conductors and Their Applications Oct 2007.pdf) They are also getting about 380 A/cm-width with 6 m runs.

Honestly, if there was a room temperature superconductor and it wasn't cost prohibitive or an environmental nightmare, they would use it regardless of how "good" of a superconductor it was.
dbren
1 / 5 (1) Jul 14, 2008
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5 / 5 (1) Jul 14, 2008
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johanfprins
1 / 5 (1) Jul 26, 2008
I am sorry I am only responding now: But I have been away for a while. I agree that you must find my claims incredible; but they are correct. My patent is not yet in the public domain. Recent results published in Science vol. 319 (2008) 1509-1512, prove that Cooper-pairs cannot model superconduction. My model explains these results in detail. I am writing up a manuscript at the moment. The incontrovertible fact is that any charge-carrier which can be accelerated cannot convey a super-current. This is so since the increase in kinetic energy must then be heat-dissipated. Cooper-pairs are modelled to be able to break-up when they are accelerated. Therefore they cannot be responsible for superconduction QED. Superconduction requires energy to drive a current but this energy must not be heat-dissiapted. This can only happen when the energy is borrowed under the rule of Heisenberg's uncertainty relationship for energy and time.


Alizee
not rated yet Aug 23, 2008
From AWT perspective, the highly compressed repulsing particles (i.e. the electrons) are exhibiting tendency to form a flat density fluctutation, similar to flat membranes, which are forming inside of condensing supercritical fluid. The electrons are moving in ordered transversal waves along surfaces of these density fluctuations, i.e. like bosons without friction and dispersion.
http://superstrun...part.gif
The formation of such zones is promoted by decreasing of temperature at the places, where the electrons are packed more closely, i.e. at the places of holes, where positivelly charged atoms are collecting the electrons from their neighourhood.

Briefly speaking, the holes are promoting a formation of isolated droplets of layered electron liquid with superfluous properties at low temperatures. The spin of these isolated droplets remains entangled (i.e. unique for most of electrons in the droplet) and as such it can be switched by using of weak external magnetic field as a whole, which enables the potential usage in spinotronic circuits.

The whole trick in HT superconductor preparation is to achieve the less or more continuous phase of highly compressed electrons throughout the whole lattice. You can think, we are trying to prepare a foamy phase of highly compressed electron fluid arranged into mesh of "pipes", which penetrates the whole crystal like neural net.

It's evident, the simple injection of large amount of randomly distributed holes isn't sufficient for such purpose, the structure matrix of HT superconductor must be specially adopted to such solution. The layered structure of YBaCuO cuprates enables to achieve this trick: you can think, it's penetrated by ordered lines of holes (formed by replacing an La3 atoms by Sr2 atoms), where the electrons are highly packed into the form of continuous superconductive "pipes", through which they can propagate in transversal waves. The strong repulsive forces between electrons must be compensated by strongly attractive forces between highly oxidized atoms in neighboring layers, so that just a tiny volume fraction of superconductive phase can be formed in such matrix. This limits the critical current density of HT superconductors.
magnatricity
1 / 5 (1) Dec 23, 2008
You guys are all on the wrong track, You will never have a room temp.S. C. until You realize We are using half electricity. We only are using the pos. side of elec. When We figure out how to run pos. and neg. through a wire together at the same time, then You will truly have a no resistance form of power. I believe the key is to use a coil, to create a magnetic field around a wire, which will allow them to flow through a single wire without any loss of power. This will be like the north and south poles of magnets that flow out of the center of the earth,(the only time they flow in the same direction without attracting or repeling each other). I have some ideas on how this can be done. It is so simple that no one has ever thought of doing it this way. once discovered it will lead to all the devices that a room temp. S. C. promices. In fact, once established, with the use of sound waves and light waves We would be able to develop all the futuristic devices like force fields levitating skateboards hand held lazer guns and many more. We could no longer have an energy shortage-perpetual energy. We need unconventional thinkers.
Ricochet
not rated yet Apr 30, 2009
There's one problem to simultaneous transmission of positive and negative energy. They cancel each other out. So, instead of lossless energy, you'd have no energy. Oops...
googleplex
5 / 5 (1) May 06, 2009
You guys are all on the wrong track, You will never have a room temp.S. C. until You realize We are using half electricity. We only are using the pos. side of elec. When We figure out how to run pos. and neg. through a wire together at the same time, then You will truly have a no resistance form of power. I believe the key is to use a coil, to create a magnetic field around a wire, which will allow them to flow through a single wire without any loss of power. This will be like the north and south poles of magnets that flow out of the center of the earth,(the only time they flow in the same direction without attracting or repeling each other). I have some ideas on how this can be done. It is so simple that no one has ever thought of doing it this way. once discovered it will lead to all the devices that a room temp. S. C. promices. In fact, once established, with the use of sound waves and light waves We would be able to develop all the futuristic devices like force fields levitating skateboards hand held lazer guns and many more. We could no longer have an energy shortage-perpetual energy. We need unconventional thinkers.

AC is effectively as close as you can get what you are talking about. You can't carry electrons and positrons in the same space because they anihilate each other. AC works by first pushing electrons then pulling them back. The magnitude and intensity of the oscilating pulse is the AC Voltage and AC Current.
Sometimes 3 wires are used to carry current at the same frequency but out of phase i.e. (3 phase). This increases the power of the transmission.
googleplex
5 / 5 (1) May 06, 2009
Magnatricity...
one way to apply your concept would be to use photons. They do not interfere so you can carry as many as you like through free space. The problem is find a transport medium. Ideally a vacuum would be used. If you use fiber optics then there is significant increase in photonic resistance (i.e. permittivity descreases).
You can convert electricity into a mega death ray laser. The only problem here is that we only have photoelectric effect (PV cells) to revert the photons back to electrical energy. PVs are still very inefficient.
CFI
5 / 5 (1) Jul 17, 2009
I love seeing this article and all of the reviews that follow it, the fact that so many people are interested in this simply thrills me! Now to get down to the nity gridy! I beleive that the room tempurture superconductor is a speedily approaching reality, it's only a matter of time before we create one and put it to work for all of its endless applications. I myself have already begun to theorize about said applications. I beleive that superconducting genoraters could aid the planet in vast energy stores, energy stores that would be distributed over a great network of wireless energy conductors and receivers! Such a combination would be incredibly revolutionary and would surely lead to wirelessly powered vehicles, electronic devices, houses, and eventually- androids (hypatheticaly). If anyone would care to elaborate or tell me wrong, please contact me at- codyfurbish@comcast.net. I would greatly appreciate your helping hand and knowledge. Thank You, and also, a bravo for "googleplex" and their grand reviews, I much enjoy your intelect.
Ricochet
not rated yet Jul 20, 2009
Yep, and as we move around town, our molecules will be continuously repolarized, and maybe eventually we'd just fall apart... I don't see where wireless energy transmission, unless we can find a way to transmit it that would not create EM fields, would be healthy for us humans and our frail bodies.

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