US appeals court allows wolf hunts

Mar 15, 2012 By MATTHEW BROWN , Associated Press
File-This August 2005 file photo provided by the Montana Department of Fish, Wildlife & Parks shows a gray wolf pup from the Calder Mountain pack along the Montana and Idaho borders west of Troy, Mont. A federal appeals court has turned down a lawsuit from conservation groups seeking to block wolf hunting and trapping that have killed more than 500 of the predators across the Northern Rockies in recent months. (AP Photo/Montana Department of Fish, Wildlife & Parks, Kent Lauden, File)

A federal appeals court on Wednesday rejected a lawsuit from conservation groups that want to block wolf hunting and trapping that have killed more than 500 of the predators across the Northern Rockies in recent months.

The ruling from a three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said Congress had the right to intervene when it stripped protections from last spring.

Lawmakers stepped in after court rulings kept wolves on the endangered list for years after they reached recovery goals. Wildlife advocates claimed in their lawsuit that Congress violated the Constitution's separation of powers by interfering with the courts.

But in an opinion authored by Judge Mary Schroeder, the court said Congress was within its rights. Schroder wrote that lawmakers changed the to deal with Northern Rockies wolves, and did not directly interfere with the court's prerogative to decide when the law is being followed.

The amendment marked the first time Congress has forcibly removed a species' endangered status. It was tacked onto a federal budget bill by Idaho Republican Rep. Mike Simpson and Montana Democratic Sen. Jon Tester.

"This case has made it clear that those who persist in trying to manage wildlife through the courts, in spite of all scientific evidence that this species has recovered, no longer have a defensible position," Simpson said Wednesday.

Michael Robinson with the , one of the groups that sued to restore protections, said a Supreme Court appeal was possible but no decision had been made.

"We're very disappointed and very saddened," Robinson said. "Hundreds of wolves have been hunted and trapped and snared, and they are essential to their ecosystem."

He called the congressional budget bill rider that lifted protections "undemocratic" and said that it set a precedent for future political meddling with imperiled wildlife.

Wolves once thrived across North America but were exterminated across most of the continental U.S. by the 1930s, through government sponsored poisoning and bounty programs.

They were put on the endangered list in 1974. Over the last two decades, state and federal agencies have spent more than $100 million on wolf restoration programs across the country.

The Northern Rockies is now home to more than 1,700 wolves in Montana, Idaho and Wyoming and expanding populations in portions of eastern Oregon and Washington. That figure is up slightly from 2010, although Wyoming and Idaho saw slight declines.

In the Northern Rockies wolf hunting is allowed in Montana and Idaho and could resume in Wyoming this fall.

Minnesota, Michigan and Wisconsin also are considering wolf seasons after protections for wolves were lifted in the upper Great Lakes in December.

Wisconsin's legislature on Wednesday approved a measure to establish a hunting and trapping season that would run from mid-October through the end of February. It still has to be approved by the governor.

There more than 4,400 of the animals in the Great Lakes and a struggling population of several dozen wolves in the Desert Southwest. Alaska, where the animals never went on the endangered list, has an estimated 10,000 wolves.

In parts of Montana, ranchers and local officials frustrated with continuing attacks on livestock have proposed bounties for hunters that kill wolves. Montana wildlife officials said they will consider ways to expand hunting after 166 wolves were killed this season, short of the state's 220-wolf quota.

Idaho allows trapping. Its 10-month wolf season runs until June and has claimed 353 wolves so far.

Prior lawsuits resulted first in the animals' reintroduction to the Northern Rockies and then later kept them on the for a decade after the species reached recovery goal of 300 wolves in three states.

The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service is monitoring the hunts. But agency officials have said they have no plans to intervene because the states have pledged to manage wolves responsibly.

Federal officials have pledged to step in to restore endangered species protections if wolf numbers drop to less than 100 animals in either Montana or Idaho.

Even without hunting, wolves are shot regularly in the region in response to livestock attacks. Since their reintroduction, more than 1,600 wolves have been shot by government wildlife agents or ranchers.

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Sinister1811
2.3 / 5 (18) Mar 15, 2012
Any idiot should realize that through extensive hunting; these wolves are eventually going to become extinct. They're already an endangered species. So much for a nation trying to protect its native fauna.. It's an absolute fail.
Sinister1811
2.4 / 5 (14) Mar 15, 2012
Fair enough, troll.

I knew I'd get downvoted by someone who hates animals.
antialias_physorg
3 / 5 (6) Mar 15, 2012
Any idiot should realize that through extensive hunting; these wolves are eventually going to become extinct.

And when the number of wolves reaches the endangered level again then the law will be changed again. Where's the problem?
Sinister1811
2.5 / 5 (13) Mar 15, 2012
That's not the point. Because the law hasn't been changed. They've reached the endangered level, and they're still being hunted. Personally, I think that's pretty stupid. Why hunt a species down to an endangered status?
Sinister1811
2.3 / 5 (12) Mar 15, 2012
Anyways, sorry antialias. Wasn't trying to start an argument. I get what you're saying, and it's perfectly legitimate. I just find the whole "sport" of hunting to be barbaric. Just a personal thing.
antialias_physorg
4.3 / 5 (6) Mar 15, 2012
I'm not sure about the 'hunting is barbaric' thing. Though I personally don't like it, I can see that there is a need if wildlife clashes with economy.

A friend of mine is a forest official and he basically says that all woodland areas need to be regulated because at some point predators or prey will have an overpopulation problem and then you'll get wolves and/or deer prowling the suburbs.

As I see it the article isn't about whether hunting an endangered species is allowed (the article states that the prohibition on hunting was stripped after it was noticed that the species was kept on the endangered list artificially) - but more on who has the legal authority to legislate what.
PJS
3 / 5 (6) Mar 15, 2012
hey, i tracked and killed a beautiful animal using technology far beyond anything the animal has any chance to defend against. i'm badass! IMO, if you can hunt and kill a wolf with nothing but your bare hands, you've earned it. otherwise, you're basically a cheater
Modernmystic
1.4 / 5 (9) Mar 15, 2012
Any idiot should realize that through extensive hunting; these wolves are eventually going to become extinct. They're already an endangered species. So much for a nation trying to protect its native fauna.. It's an absolute fail.


These animals are listed as LEAST CONCERN...what planet are YOU on? Is it the third one from its sun, mostly blue, called Earth???
Sinister1811
2.2 / 5 (13) Mar 15, 2012
Any idiot should realize that through extensive hunting; these wolves are eventually going to become extinct. They're already an endangered species. So much for a nation trying to protect its native fauna.. It's an absolute fail.


These animals are listed as LEAST CONCERN...what planet are YOU on? Is it the third one from its sun, mostly blue, called Earth???


Then why does the article say that they're endangered?
Modernmystic
1.9 / 5 (8) Mar 15, 2012
Any idiot should realize that through extensive hunting; these wolves are eventually going to become extinct. They're already an endangered species. So much for a nation trying to protect its native fauna.. It's an absolute fail.


These animals are listed as LEAST CONCERN...what planet are YOU on? Is it the third one from its sun, mostly blue, called Earth???


Then why does the article say that they're endangered?


I have no clue...

http://en.wikiped...#Hunting
BuddyinHSV
4 / 5 (4) Mar 15, 2012
Fair is fair. Arm the animals. Where is Anton Chigurh where he's needed most. The good 'ol boy Texas hunter did not stand much of a chance with him.
Modernmystic
2 / 5 (6) Mar 15, 2012
Fair is fair. Arm the animals. Where is Anton Chigurh where he's needed most. The good 'ol boy Texas hunter did not stand much of a chance with him.


The wolf IS armed, "he" just isn't as well armed. Mother nature has "spoken"...
harryhill
5 / 5 (4) Mar 15, 2012
Lewis and Clark mentioned in their travels that 'the area was teeming with game'. So, if there was not limiting population growth of: Grizzles-Wolves and Cougars it might be theorized that the population of elk etc would be way down. It was 'teeming'. Maybe the 'invasive species'..'us' to you-is causing the problem.
RitchieGuy
3 / 5 (8) Mar 16, 2012
I like wolves and I don't like them being killed for sport or for any other reason unless they are attacking a human. They are beautiful animals and they do serve a purpose of keeping small and medium size game populations down. . .like jackrabbits. I'm a conservationist but not a rabid Green Peace nutjob. A rancher has the right to kill a wolf who is taking down too many of his herd or flock, but it's not right for him to deliberately go out seeking to kill them. When people encroach on wolf territory, they need to be prepared to pay a penalty. Wolves make their home in certain areas of the country and those areas should be left alone. No hiking, no camping, just get out. Animals have rights too.
Sinister1811
1.7 / 5 (11) Mar 16, 2012
Wipe 'em out!

YEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAH!


Because, in spite of the 2 billion Human beings, wolves are the animals in need of population control. Other than that, I totally agree - Let's kill them all. /endofsarcasm
TheGhostofOtto1923
1 / 5 (7) Mar 16, 2012
Fair enough, troll.

I knew I'd get downvoted by someone who hates animals.
Naw you are downvoted by people who hate idiots. Wolves have been reintroduced into these areas and now must be managed. This is the only way to do it. Everybody (except idiots) knows this.
I like wolves and I don't like them being killed for sport or for any other reason unless they are attacking a human. They are beautiful animals and they do serve a purpose of keeping small and medium size game populations down. . .like jackrabbits. I'm a conservationist but not a rabid Green Peace nutjob.
What IS that sucking sound? Must be Ritchie looking for friends. Looks like you found some.
TheGhostofOtto1923
1 / 5 (6) Mar 16, 2012
Any idiot should realize that through extensive hunting; these wolves are eventually going to become extinct. They're already an endangered species. So much for a nation trying to protect its native fauna.. It's an absolute fail.


These animals are listed as LEAST CONCERN...what planet are YOU on? Is it the third one from its sun, mostly blue, called Earth???


Then why does the article say that they're endangered?
Naw that is only where you stopped reading and began to weep. The article says:

"Lawmakers stepped in after court rulings kept wolves on the endangered list for years after they reached recovery goals."

Listen now - this means they are NOT ENDANGERED. Not endangered. They have been returned to the status of potential menace. Ever read little red riding hood? Wolves can be BAD.
Sinister1811
1.8 / 5 (10) Mar 16, 2012
"Lawmakers stepped in after court rulings kept wolves on the endangered list for years after they reached recovery goals."

Listen now - this means they are NOT ENDANGERED. Not endangered. They have been returned to the status of potential menace. Ever read little red riding hood? Wolves can be BAD.


No, that is where you began being an asshole. The article DOES INDEED state that they are endangered, or didn't you read that part? What ModernMystic found on Wikipedia refers to Wolves as a whole, not just the wolves at Yellowstone. And, are you serious? Little Red Hiding Hood? You do realize that is a children's story.. Now I realize why you're afraid of the big, bad wolf. My, what big teeth he has!
Sinister1811
1.8 / 5 (10) Mar 16, 2012
Fair enough, troll.

I knew I'd get downvoted by someone who hates animals.
Naw you are downvoted by people who hate idiots. Wolves have been reintroduced into these areas and now must be managed. This is the only way to do it. Everybody (except idiots) knows this.


No need to call me an idiot. How rude. So, you're telling me that a few hundred wolves in the small space of Yellow Stone park is a big fucking deal? Man, you really are stupid and/or paranoid.
TheGhostofOtto1923
1 / 5 (5) Mar 16, 2012
Fair enough, troll.

I knew I'd get downvoted by someone who hates animals.
Naw you are downvoted by people who hate idiots. Wolves have been reintroduced into these areas and now must be managed. This is the only way to do it. Everybody (except idiots) knows this.


No need to call me an idiot. How rude. So, you're telling me that a few hundred wolves in the small space of Yellow Stone park is a big fucking deal? Man, you really are stupid and/or paranoid.
Im sorry but only an idiot would say this. Just like people, wolf populations will grow faster than their food supply and will begin stealing food from unauthorized sources. Like chicken coops, herds, dog houses, and perhaps playgrounds.

This is the existential problem and the only viable solution is to shoot them with stainless steel h-bar .223 scoped rifles from camouflaged blinds or helicopters.

This is obvious to everyone but people-hating idiots like yourself.
Sinister1811
2.2 / 5 (10) Mar 16, 2012
Im sorry but only an idiot would say this. Just like people, wolf populations will grow faster than their food supply and will begin stealing food from unauthorized sources. Like chicken coops, herds, dog houses, and perhaps playgrounds.

This is the existential problem and the only viable solution is to shoot them with stainless steel h-bar .223 scoped rifles from camouflaged blinds or helicopters.

This is obvious to everyone but people-hating idiots like yourself.


I thought the article was talking about people hunting these animals for "fun", not just to cull their numbers. By the sounds of it, the wolf populations are in heavy decline and will probably never get a chance to recover anyway. Even when there's only a few of them left, I doubt the laws will change to prevent them from being completely wiped out. For whatever reason (and one that's certainly not clear to me), that's just the way things are over there.
Sinister1811
2.2 / 5 (10) Mar 17, 2012
This is obvious to everyone but people-hating idiots like yourself.


I happen to like wolves, so that makes me a people-hating idiot. Great observation. Moron.
TheGhostofOtto1923
1 / 5 (6) Mar 17, 2012
I happen to like wolves, so that makes me a people-hating idiot. Great observation. Moron.
True you did not say 'I hate humans' in so many words. But we can infer this in your many derogatory statements:
Any idiot should realize that through extensive hunting; these wolves are eventually going to become extinct.
Wolves are being reintroduced BY humans. Why would you think they would allow wolves to become extinct unless you are a posturing human-hater?
They're already an endangered species.
An obviously false statement and prejudicial anti-human judgment as I demonstrated.
So much for a nation trying to protect its native fauna.
A nation of human beings which has reintroduced the wolf to the point where it has become a menace again.
It's an absolute fail.
No its not. Only an idiot human hater would conclude this.
TheGhostofOtto1923
1 / 5 (5) Mar 17, 2012
I happen to like wolves, so that makes me a people-hating idiot. Great observation. Moron.
But - your prejudicial hating has caused you to totally misconstrue the info in the article. To wit - wolves have recovered to the extent that their numbers now need to be controlled by hunting them. Humans will decide the scope of this hunting so that these reintroduced populations will not shrink below self-sustainability. So go cry on your pillow hater.
The wolf IS armed, "he" just isn't as well armed. Mother nature has "spoken"...
The wolf is armed well enough to the point where it can kill significant numbers of livestock, deplete game animals, and menace humans. Its reproductive capacity is what causes the problem.
MorituriMax
4 / 5 (4) Mar 17, 2012
Way to go Matthew Brown, bias the whole article by referring to the wolves as "predators" instead of "animals" right in the opening paragraph.! Bravo!
MorituriMax
4 / 5 (4) Mar 17, 2012
hey, i tracked and killed a beautiful animal using technology far beyond anything the animal has any chance to defend against. i'm badass! IMO, if you can hunt and kill a wolf with nothing but your bare hands, you've earned it. otherwise, you're basically a cheater
PJS, why don't you go bear hunting and oh, you only get to take a knife, and even that is cheating since it isn't the equipment you were born with.

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