ISS to be sunk after 2020: Russian space agency
Russia and its partners plan to plunge the International Space Station (ISS) into the ocean at the end of its life cycle after 2020 so as not to leave space junk, its space agency said Wednesday.
"After it completes its existence, we will be forced to sink the ISS. It cannot be left in orbit, it's too complex, too heavy an object, it can leave behind lots of rubbish," said deputy head of Roskosmos space agency Vitaly Davydov.
"Right now we've agreed with our partners that the station will be used until approximately 2020," he said in comments released on Wednesday.
Space junk is becoming an increasingly serious headache.
A piece of space debris narrowly missed the space station last month in a rare incident that forced the six-member crew to scramble to their rescue craft.
The ISS, which orbits 350 kilometres (220 miles) above Earth, is a sophisticated platform for scientific experiments bringing together space agencies from Russia, the United States, Europe, Japan, and Canada.
Launched in 1998, the ISS was initially expected to remain in space for 15 years until an agreement was reached to keep it operating through 2020.
By going into a watery grave, the ISS will repeat the fate of its predecessor space station Mir, which Russia sank in the Pacific Ocean in 2001 after 15 years of service.
Moscow this month proclaimed the beginning of "the era of the Soyuz" after the US shuttle's last flight left the Russian system as the sole means for delivering astronauts to the ISS.
Russia is currently developing a new space ship to replace the Soyuz capsule which is single-use, except for the section in which spacemen return to Earth, said Davydov.
Tests of the ship will begin after 2015 and it will have "elements of multi-use whose level will be much higher than they are today," he said, adding that Russia will compete with the United States in building the new-generation ship.
"We'll race each other."
Davydov said it remains unclear what will come after the ISS and whether mankind will see the need for a replacement orbiting close to Earth.
"Lots of our tasks are still linked to circumterrestrial space," he said, while adding that a new space station could be used as a base for building complexes that will explore deeper into space.
"I cannot rule out that it will be used to put together, create the complexes that in the future will fly to the Moon and Mars," he said, stressing that "a serious exploration" could not be done without manned flights.
(c) 2011 AFP
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It's like your eyes cross the word "Russia" and your brain completely shuts down.
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or, did i miss something? i saw the pics from hubble and heard about discoveries thta it was used to make.
how many/what came out of this THING?!?
...oh, no, not another one!
can't we PLLEEESSSEEE build a base on the moon? will aliens chase us off of it?
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Ya, but you didn't build them to last. And your nation will have disintegrated into several countries by 2020.
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I have the same problem when I see the name "Ludia Palinova"
http://claritaslu...ssia.jpg
Jul 27, 2011
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"Sink the ISS"--what an ignominious waste!
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Whoa!!! Do you realize how much fuel that would take? The idea of going to the moon is travel lightly, and, for a base, use the materials at hand. Also, it isn't really optimized to be helpful for a moon mission.
Second, a space station is like a car, as it gets older, it needs more and more maintenance. Putting it around the moon would not solve the problem - it would create a deathtrap by putting spare parts farther away.
I do wish that they would start thinking about reusability, like with the bigelow modules. They should make 'em easy to retrofit and replace - each module has valuable real estate.
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@frank - The space station needs boosts primarily because of atmospheric drag of the upper atmosphere (The thermosphere). The moon has no appreciable atmosphere.
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A huge amount of valuable scientific research actually. See here:
http://www.nasa.g...ory.html
The ISS is a scientific gem and it will incredibly sad to see it come to the end of its remit.
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And by 2020, there should be private Bigelow stations already in orbit. Just like the shuttle is being replaced by private rockets, the same eventualy awaits the ISS. It was not build to last indefinitely.
Jul 28, 2011
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From the article...
"Right now we've agreed with our partners that the station will be used until approximately 2020,"
That would suggest that it has been a joint discussion with all parties involved and not a unilateral decision by Russia.
I do agree that it should be reused as much as possible as long as it's more economical to refit than to replace.
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Except for the energy it would take to do that.
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With the same amount of money that would take you could clean up a significant percentage of the world oceans garbage patches and recycle that plastic
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The greatest benefit from building this thing is learning how to build it. This is a great accomplishment and something which had to be done.
It also gave us flexibility to do unanticipated things; if we needed to construct something in orbit - say an emergency mission to divert an asteroid. This could be assembled at the station with large construction crews, and might still be.
It is a bridgehead - an outpost. A colony.
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As said before, they're putting VASIMIR on the ISS by 2013.
Making it into a museum piece in space is actually quite interesting.
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Mars in 39 days?
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I agree with your sentiment. The main roadblock is not the power of the ion or plasma engines we have available at the time the ISS is decommissioned - It's the ISS itself - The ISS is a space station, not a space ship, and can only tolerate a small amount a continuous torque. You don't want pieces breaking off it (Or the thing breaking in half) while you push it along.
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That would be with a LIGHTWEIGHT nuclear power plant that doesn't exist nor is being planned.
If you want to go to Mars quickly, restart NERVA or pay Pratt & Whitney to move forward with their TRITON design.
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You're talking about trading one kind of pollution for another. Energy isn't free.
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A VASIMR prototype will be tested in a couple of years on the ISS.
I suppose that with all the solar panels on the ISS and a slow, long thrust of a VASIMR so as not to over stress it, that in several years, you could nudge up it up out of the way for possible salvage later. I don't know how much fuel it would need to do that nor if it would be worth the effort.
My two cents is to splash it now, save the money, and focus on exploring beyond LEO.
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But yeah, we won't really know until someone gets off their a$$es and does some serious work on this idea.
From an organizational outlook, I'd say Bigelow industries would be the one to watch on doing this kind of thing. NASA itself is too burned on the cost innefficiencies of the space shuttle to consider the idea right now...although they did do an excellent job servicing hubble and retrofitting certain parts of it.
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Why couldnt they just raise it to a more stable orbit? Maybe thats what the vasimr is for. Could soyuz reach it in a higher orbit? Maybe multiple vasimr engines placed in the right locations would make it more motile.
But yeah we're all just quessing here.This could get interesting.
"US moves station remotely to prevent russian docking - russians rearming soyuz after US robot spaceplanes plant mines - ESA refueling vessel destroyed on approach..." etc
Competition among adversaries is what got us into space to begin with. Russians are redoing the favor perhaps? Humans are inescapably crisis-driven.
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http://www.youtub...ure=fvsr
-BASTARDS!!! And we want to trust them with sole access to OUR station??!?
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Stacy wants to park the ISS on the moon. It would probably go something like this:
http://www.youtub...ure=fvsr
-Only a WHOLE lot worse. Maybe a little like this:
http://www.youtub...GizBjDXo
-Or even... THIS!
http://www.youtub...e=relmfu
-BASTARDS!!! And we want to trust them with sole access to OUR station??!?
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I was only suggesting an alternative to just dumping the ISS into the Ocean. yes there would be waste with fuel but better that than to keep using the Oceans as a dumping area.. and so far you have only criticized .. please let us know your suggestion.
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VASIMR needs to have its propulsion capabilities tested in space sooner or later anyways. Why not use it to push a big piece of metal in space that we can already dock with and work on that we need to get rid of anyways?
Or just send it to the ocean. The oceans are big. It would sink to the bottom and would become part of the ocean floor like a sunken ship.
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The international space reef memorial haha
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So while the worlds finances are up shit creek, take time out from burning money in space, and design HIGHER tech engines and systems. Better power plants etc. We've messed around in space and know it's a dangerous and expensive place to play. We need to stop building temporary, disposable systems, and get on with stuff that will LAST!!!
I do like the idea of putting it into moon orbit. Even it gets hit, you can enter the station wearing a space suit!!!!!
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aparently the old joke slipped passed you.