Iceland commemorates first glacier lost to climate change

Iceland loses about 11 billion tonnes of ice per year, and scientists fear all of the island's 400-plus glaciers will be gone by
Iceland loses about 11 billion tonnes of ice per year, and scientists fear all of the island's 400-plus glaciers will be gone by 2200

Iceland on Sunday honoured the passing of Okjokull, its first glacier lost to climate change, as scientists warn that some 400 others on the subarctic island risk the same fate.

As the world recently marked the warmest July ever on record, a bronze plaque was mounted on a bare rock in a ceremony on the former glacier in western Iceland, attended by local researchers and their peers at Rice University in the United States who initiated the project.

Iceland's Prime Minister Katrin Jakobsdottir and former United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights Mary Robinson also attended the event, as well as hundreds of scientists, journalists and members of the public who trekked to the site.

"I hope this ceremony will be an inspiration not only to us here in Iceland but also for the rest of the world, because what we are seeing here is just one face of the climate crisis," Jakobsdottir told AFP.

The plaque bears the inscription "A letter to the future", and is intended to raise awareness about the decline of glaciers and the effects of climate change.

"In the next 200 years all our glaciers are expected to follow the same path. This monument is to acknowledge that we know what is happening and what needs to be done. Only you know if we did it," the plaque reads.

The Okjokull glacier in Iceland has melted away due to climate change
The Okjokull glacier in Iceland has melted away due to climate change

It is also labelled "415 ppm CO2", referring to the record level of carbon dioxide measured in the atmosphere last May.

The plaque is "the first monument to a glacier lost to climate change anywhere in the world", Cymene Howe, associate professor of anthropology at Rice University, said in July.

"Memorials everywhere stand for either human accomplishments, like the deeds of historic figures, or the losses and deaths we recognise as important," she said.

"By memorialising a fallen glacier, we want to emphasise what is being lost—or dying—the world over, and also draw attention to the fact that this is something that humans have 'accomplished', although it is not something we should be proud of."

Howe noted that the conversation about climate change can be abstract, with many dire statistics and sophisticated scientific models that can feel incomprehensible.

"Perhaps a monument to a lost glacier is a better way to fully grasp what we now face," she said, highlighting "the power of symbols and ceremony to provoke feelings".

A monument was unveiled at the site of Okjokull, Iceland's first glacier lost to climate change
A monument was unveiled at the site of Okjokull, Iceland's first glacier lost to climate change

'Pretty visual'

Julien Weiss, an aerodynamics professor at the University of Berlin who attended Sunday's ceremony with his wife and seven-year-old daughter, was one of those moved by seeing the ex-glacier Sunday.

"Seeing a glacier disappear is something you can feel, you can understand it and it's pretty visual," he told AFP.

"You don't feel climate change daily, it's something that happens very slowly on a human scale, but very quickly on a geological scale."

Iceland loses about 11 billion tonnes of ice per year, and scientists fear all of the island's 400-plus glaciers will be gone by 2200, according to Howe.

Glaciers cover about 11 percent of the country's surface.

This NASA handout image shows the Okjökull glacier in 1986
This NASA handout image shows the Okjökull glacier in 1986

"A big part of our renewable energy is produced in the glacial rivers.... The disappearance of the glaciers will affect our energy system," Prime Minister Jakobsdottir said.

Stripped in 2014

Glaciologists stripped Okjokull of its glacier status in 2014, a first for Iceland.

In 1890, the glacier ice covered 16 square kilometres (6.2 square miles) but by 2012, it measured just 0.7 square kilometres, according to a report from the University of Iceland from 2017.

In 2014, "we made the decision that this was no longer a living glacier, it was only dead ice, it was not moving," Oddur Sigurdsson, a glaciologist with the Icelandic Meteorological Office, told AFP.

To have the status of a glacier, the mass of ice and snow must be thick enough to move by its own weight. For that to happen the mass must be approximately 40 to 50 metres (130 to 165 feet) thick, he said.

According to a study published by the International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN)in April, nearly half of the world's heritage sites could lose their glaciers by 2100 if greenhouse gas emissions continue at the current rate.


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Aug 18, 2019
Natural and minor post-glaciation heating, approximately 1 deg per century.

Aug 18, 2019
More alarmist BS from phys .org

Aug 18, 2019
Natural and minor post-glaciation heating
A quick look at the facts - show that Thorium knows nothing. https://kottke.or...00-years

The current warming is anything but natural, or minor.

Old C once again has nothing to add to science - so accuses a site that aggregates science information of being alarmist. Hey old C - just stop reading physorg if you disapprove of their selection of information.

Aug 18, 2019
it isn't as if warm is bad. Historically, the Warm Periods were always kinder to humans and other living things. It's the cold periods that have been hard.

But leftist pukes have to be leftist pukes, I suppose.

Aug 18, 2019
Liar deniers hate glaciers.

Aug 18, 2019
Did they falsify data?

Aug 18, 2019
shootist
the Warm Periods were always kinder to humans...
Interesting hypothesis from shootist - right? But - humans have only been on the planet for around 200,000 years. The last time temperatures were as warm as they are today, was about 120,000 years ago. https://en.wikipe...plot.svg

So what was the population 120,000 years ago? How does shootist know that conditions were kinder to humans then?

interesting the willingness to roll the dice with our children's Earth. What if Shootist is wrong? But then we get the real motivation from Shootist - right?
But leftist pukes have to be leftist pukes, I suppose

Meaning that caring about the future of our world - makes you a 'leftist puke.'

Aug 18, 2019
szore88 - Did they falsify data?

answer - yes
the collective cult of looneyticks
thorazine boi - old coot - shootsownfoot - hacksdaft & all the other denier trolls
are paid to falsify data, use obsolete data out of context, denounce the scientific method of empirical experimentation corrected with peer review

the denier vermin agitate shamelessly against every honest evaluation of how serious is the accumulating crisis

it's their career in propaganda for which they expect to collect the 24 pieces of silver their masters promised them
plus, refuge in their masters bunkers when the deliberately caused catastrophe hits

the best case scenario?
the cretin-denier's masters are criminals who want to be morlochs
& the only way the deniers get into the bunkers?
is hanging from meathooks in the cold-lockers
as their begrimed souls get the express elevator to the lowest level of eternal hell for betraying Humanity

Aug 18, 2019
Thorium thumper, old fart c and shooty the potty (all antigoracle's own dumb sockpuppets) are creating a racquet amongst himself to see which one of his own socks can proudly claim to post the dumbest comment, and winner is .... "drum roll" you guessed it....All three ! ! !
....Stay tuned more bananas will be awarded soon :D

Aug 18, 2019
So many displays of concern about "climate change". The fact is, though, those who claim to care, in general, really don't care at all!
People who care about a subject have common characteristics. They don't settle for being told what to believe about the subject. They want to be deeply, personally involved. And that includes looking as facets of the subject. They are willing to listen to alternate theories, even those that contradict the "official story", even if just to assure themselves that the alternate theories are invalid! And they certainly don't rely on specious dodges to "disprove" what could be the real answer to a situation!
Chemtrails caused the number of tornadoes during a year to go from 180 to eight or nine times that number. They caused new cloud species to develop. They are unnatural non dissipating vapor lanes in the sky. But those who claim to care about the environment won't even say the word! They don't care about "climate change"!

Aug 18, 2019
The fact is, though, those who claim to care, in general, really don't care at all!
Yes they do - and as usual - saying something is so - does not make it so. So let me give you an example. Recently I developed a bad case of thrush. I went to the doc - and was given nystatin. All gone thrush.
I did care about my thrush - it was bloody painful. I did accept the 'official story' - cuz I don't know how to cure thrush. And I am glad I did.

If you want to research every alternate theory out there on every subject - knock yourself out. But don't tell us that we don't 'care' - because we are good with letting the experts in science - hash the subject out. And no - it is not my responsibility to research every stupid alternate theory you want to throw at me.

Aug 18, 2019
speaking of sockpuppets & wahhabi whores...
here is julipetard
straight off the yech! dark web site
to to preach the godsell of primitive sanguine stuporstitions

without properly accrediting the priests of moloch for his insane babbling
but as a typical witchdoctor?
no one is expecting anything but falsehoods & gibbering from his serpent's tongue

Aug 18, 2019
I find it the height of arrogance to claim that the climate is the exclusive reason why glaciers recede or grow; that there are no other reasons; no unknown unknowns; that we know everything, like omnipotent all-knowing beings.

I smh at the lack of objectivity on display.

Aug 18, 2019
@Kordane - the only reason that you believe that scientists claim that climate is the exclusive reason glaciers recede or grow is that you are utterly ignorant on the subject. Try picking up a textbook or study the issue.

Aug 18, 2019
so if you take an ice cube and leave it at 32.1 degrees F for a century what happens to it ?

glaciers came out of the freezer mid 1800's or so.

Aug 18, 2019
@Parsec, this one's over on another thread touting a "paper" by a couple of Finns that's never been published. It's only been posted on arXiv. And it never will be; there are significant flaws, including supposed cloud coverage data that are not sourced in the paper.

It's another climate liar denier. No question. I've blocked it; I suggest you do the same. Unless, of course, you want to torment it a little while by showing how jejune it is.

Aug 18, 2019
But leftist pukes have to be leftist pukes, I suppose.
I know I do, because science, intelligence, and therefore altruism; no supposing about it. Don't be a fascist with our planet.

Aug 19, 2019
Why are there no trees in Iceland?

https://adventure...iceland/

Aug 19, 2019
So many displays of concern about "climate change". The fact is, though, those who claim to care, in general, really don't care at all!...BlablablablaBIGGESTLOADOFHOGWASH....

The FACT is Those who claim to care DO CARE, Your comments speak of YOUR kind and YOUR Utter stupidity and foolishness, this has been established for decades idiot.

Aug 19, 2019
I see that someone gave me a -1 vote. Was that SpookyOtto or someone who hates travelogues about Iceland?

Aug 19, 2019
I find it the height of arrogance to claim that the climate is the exclusive reason why glaciers recede or grow; that there are no other reasons; no unknown unknowns; that we know everything, like omnipotent all-knowing beings.

I smh at the lack of objectivity on display.

This is actually an opinion ? lol...The deniers so far beyond desperate to not look foolish everytime they type some thumbsucked horse manure, just to consistently prove the point again that all they can do is consistently prove their idiocy... comedy gold this is :D

Aug 19, 2019
Comedy gold? That's what Schneib used to say a lot. Schneib is that you?

Aug 19, 2019
Nope he doesn't ;) that's what i always say, and likely you'll be part of it... soon

Aug 19, 2019
As I have mentioned already in another phorum, the Circle of Life (aka the Cycle of Life) requires CO2 that humans and animals exhale, to be absorbed and utilised as food by plant life, and in turn the plant life emit Oxygen into the air which is breathed by humans and animals. Take away much of the atmospheric CO2 and you starve plant life of their food. When you starve plant life, they cannot process the CO2 and emit Oxygen for humans and animals to breathe. That's a double whammy on 2 Life Forms which are humans/animals and plant life. When you eliminate much of the atmospheric CO2, you will be killing off plant life as well as killing yourselves.
I suggest that you all think more seriously about what you intend to do, instead of being so reactionary.

Aug 19, 2019
Pulling up an OLD debunked myth i see.Those who benefit from the status quo of burning copious amounts of fossil fuels love to argue that more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere will benefit plant life. It's a favorite claim of climate contrarians like Matt Ridley and Rupert Murdoch.

Aug 19, 2019
Deniers often ignore the most important aspect, climate change itself. Its negative consequences such as drought and heat stress would overwhelm any direct benefits that rising CO2 might offer plant life. It's not appropriate to look at the CO2 fertilization effect in isolation that will skew your result which is what your intention is.

Aug 19, 2019
LOL I am not intending anything. I am merely reminding you people of where Oxygen comes from and what it takes to get plants to RELEASE that Oxygen into the air after they've processed CO2. It isn't rocket science, as they say. But it IS science. Drought and 'heat stress' isn't new. You talk as though it's never happened before in the distant past.
THIS IS EARTH. IT'S A PLANET. IT UNDERGOES CHANGES. Maybe YOU don't like those changes, but they WILL HAPPEN in spite of you.

Aug 19, 2019
It's obscene for what idiots the AGW Cult takes their flock.

https://electrove...minimum/

But then, who can blame them when the Chicken Littles eagerly swallow the Cult's bullshit.

Aug 19, 2019
Clean up EARTH now !

Aug 19, 2019
LOL I am not intending anything.

No you are in fact INTENDING exactly what you said, which is trying to downplay Human Caused Climate Change as insignificant, because that is precisely what YOU and your sockpuppets do everyday.

Fooling yourself everyday into thinking the trend you and your puppets leave everyday will gone by unnoticed, while that is actually the fuel for the comedy you create mentioned above... ;)

And what a moron to say the planet undergoes changes, of COURSE it does, typical denier mentality, no one disputes that it's the HUMAN factor which is accelerating those changes unnaturally that will lead us to catastrophic events within our time frame.

Aug 19, 2019
It's obscene for what idiots the AGW Cult takes their flock.

https://electrove...minimum/

But then, who can blame them when the Chicken Littles eagerly swallow the Cult's bullshit.
aaahh Monkeyyyyy so glad you back in the flesh... and even more glad you posted your propaganda link, does the same person pay you the peanuts to post it here... ? lol... Peer-reviewed research, physics, and math all tell us that a grand solar minimum would have no more than a 0.3°C cooling effect, barely enough to put a dent in human-caused global warming, so ther you have it, now go ask for some more peanuts and post us some more propaganda to poke fun at.

Aug 19, 2019
Did they falsify data?
szore88

You mean did they lie about that glacier melting and disappearing?
Are you saying that glacier is still there or are you saying it never existed?
Don't be absurd.

Aug 19, 2019
LMAO.
Look at all those ignorant sheep in that picture.
It's summer and they are covered from head to toe in their winter's best. Yet, they believe gloBULL warming evaporated a glacier.

Aug 19, 2019
"Geothermal Heat Exposes Glacial Cliffs"
https://www.icela...-cliffs/

The fact is okjokull is exactly where there is intensive geothermal activity.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/07/23/08/16377038-7273789-image-a-10_1563865493258.jpg
https://www.geoth...0891.pdf

Gobble up, Chicken Littles

Aug 19, 2019

If you want to research every alternate theory out there on every subject - knock yourself out. But don't tell us that we don't 'care' - because we are good with letting the experts in science - hash the subject out. And no - it is not my responsibility to research every stupid alternate theory you want to throw at me.


So, why don't you and your buddies just create a private comment group and you can all pat yourselves on the back, say nice supportive things to each other and then you will not have to entertain any thoughts that interfere with your beliefs. You can just kick out anyone who does not follow the party agenda. That way you could leave this site for those of us who would like to actually have a discussion instead of bullying others.

Aug 19, 2019
So, how many Chicken Shites bothered to check that this is a volcano?
Of course, should it erupt again, the Chicken Shites will blame gloBULL warming.
LMAO

Aug 19, 2019
@Thorium Boy.
Natural and minor post-glaciation heating, approximately 1 deg per century.
No. The warming spurt since Industrialisation and the wholesale burning of forests/coal etc for fuel exacerbated by the world wars and since then the rampant overpopulation and exploitation of oil and gas reserves has caused an accelerated increase in global average temp since the pre-industrial settled equilibrium temp average. That's the problem, the equilibrium dynamics which kept the Earth habitable for humans, and the available/suitable lands to which humans may migrate/relocate during natural variations, is now unsettled/exhausted. There's no place to run to anymore. We're all in this together; and denial/delay in countering the real and present danger getting worse by the year is ignored at your peril and that of your family/descendants who will pay the cost of denials and obfuscation by vested interests using 'weaponised stupids' and 'bots' to gull the ignorants. Wake up. :)

Aug 19, 2019
@Old_C_Code.
More alarmist BS from phys .org
Your neighbour has just telephoned you to inform you that your house is burning, you are half-asleep in bed and looking forward to peaceful slumber, so you ignore him and call him names because you are of the half-asleep opinion that he is being "alarmist". Wake up, neighbour! :)

Aug 19, 2019
Shootist.
it isn't as if warm is bad. Historically, the Warm Periods were always kinder to humans and other living things. It's the cold periods that have been hard.

But leftist pukes have to be leftist pukes, I suppose.
There is a 'tolerable equilibrium' in the seasons for humans and crops and farmed animals to thrive. It's temp extremes that kill; and insect pests/diseases become rampant/widespread when humans/crops/animals are stressed BOTH by extreme heat/cold. Also, water is more scarce when extreme heat changes weather patterns and dries up surface water before it has a chance to seep into water table depths; that's the main danger to warming beyond previously settled pre-industrial tolerable equilibrium temp/weather patterns/averages. Tolerable seasons range kills off insects/diseases and sets agricultural crops up for cool-setting of fruiting/reproduction and maturing etc cycles/stages in plants/animals we depend on. Unseasonal worse extremes destroy. Complex. :)

Aug 19, 2019
@julianpenrod.
...People who care about a subject have common characteristics. They don't settle for being told what to believe about the subject. They want to be deeply, personally involved. And that includes looking as facets of the subject. They are willing to listen to alternate theories, even those that contradict the "official story", even if just to assure themselves that the alternate theories are invalid! And they certainly don't rely on specious dodges to "disprove" what could be the real answer to a situation!
I cared enough to have already pointed out for you all the factors at play. Remember? :)

Chemtrails caused the number of tornadoes during a year to go from 180 to eight or nine times that number.
I already explained to you all the factors involved; in another thread, some weeks ago, mate. Which showed I care. Yes? :)

Aug 19, 2019
@Kordane.
I find it the height of arrogance to claim that the climate is the exclusive reason why glaciers recede or grow; that there are no other reasons; no unknown unknowns; that we know everything, like omnipotent all-knowing beings.

I smh at the lack of objectivity on display.
The scientific models all take into account many factors, mate. So your assertion of arrogance, exclusion etc is unfounded in fact. For your information, all the factors included then show up as either 'constants' or 'variables' according to the changes/ratios over time/place etc which apply during longtime observations/comparisons/analysis to arrive at the net-net result/conclusion based on consideration of all the facts available to the models. Its complex and exhaustive; not so simple as your assertions incorrectly imply. Read deeper into the subject of complex modelling of climate/glaciers etc to avoid making further faux-pas assertions like that you made above. Good luck. :)

Aug 19, 2019
@antigoracle.
"Geothermal Heat Exposes Glacial Cliffs"
https://www.icela...-cliffs/

Gobble up, Chicken Littles
That's the problem with AGW, mate; the reduction of weight/cold which previously pressured/stiffened the 'cap' on the volcanic system below is removed and the volcanic heat/pressure escapes more easily. The pre-industrial climate/temps were in a tolerable equilibrium which made many lands habitable because of the glacial 'caps' and also the seasonal melting of parts of those glaciers which provided all-year-round water source. But the disappearance/thinning of glaciers over volcanic systems, and also in the Himalayas, Bolivia etc etc is creating havoc by reducing crucial water supply and increasing volcanic excursions due to lessened 'cap' pressure/cold. It's complex. Learn more about the complex subject to avoid posting crap like a 'weaponised stupid' or 'bot' employed by a Russian/GOP troll-factory, mate. :)

Aug 19, 2019
Old C once again has nothing to add to science


You embarrass modern science clinging to this alarmist BS climate crap.
It's so political, you're a fool to be swayed so severely.


Aug 19, 2019
Sam B
So, why don't you and your buddies just create a private comment group
So who's the bully here Sam? I object to being told that I 'don't care' - about the subject I actually care a great deal about. And your response is to tell me i should get off the board. Maybe you should get of the board - cuz telling people to get off the board is not exactly open minded - or democratic - is it?

Again - on the subject of the 'official story.' Science is a collaborative process. Thousands of highly trained specialists - working hard together - to try to help us understand our universe. I am happy for you to have your discussions - about what ever you want. But expect folks like me - who happen to think that the science community is the best bet in terms of getting it right - will want to support our position. Sorry you don't like my position - I don't care about what you like or don't like.

Aug 19, 2019
ohh, puh-leeze!
don't discourage the anti-science loons...
their russian & saudi masters will whip their delicate fleshy buns for their whores failing to earn their kopeck for the day!

admitted;y i enjoy bullying the vermin & it makes me laugh to hear their teeth grinding in frustration for failing to match my incomparable humoresque satire

however my greatest motivation?
is the disgust i feel about these freaks agitpropping against honest scientists
who are not permitted to respond to the lunatics of bedlam

the cretin's clown-car of outrageous attempts to sabotage public discourse with denunciations against researchers
who refuse to seriously acknowledge the anti-human's
hormonal mass-hysteria of idiotic delusions
since everybody with any intelligence refuses to read their crappy nonsense

their extortionate actions to hijack the peer-review system

these altright-fairytails who demand politically correct, ideologically pure. obedience to their death-cult of ignorant lysenkoism

Aug 19, 2019
That's the problem with AGW, mate; the reduction of weight/cold which previously pressured/stiffened the 'cap' on the volcanic system below is removed and the volcanic heat/pressure escapes more easily.

Wow. You have been practicing, since no one could be born that stupid.
Listen up jackass. Volcanoes are the result of magma forcing its way through many kilometres of rock and soil and then elevating the land several kilometres. Yet you, jackass, believe ice can stop it.

Aug 19, 2019
ice cubes 32.1 F , 100 yrs ,,,

Aug 20, 2019
LOL I am not intending anything.

No you are in fact INTENDING exactly what you said, which is trying to downplay Human Caused Climate Change as insignificant, because that is precisely what YOU and your sockpuppets do everyday.

Fooling yourself everyday into thinking the trend you and your puppets leave everyday will gone by unnoticed, while that is actually the fuel for the comedy you create mentioned above... ;)

And what a moron to say the planet undergoes changes, of COURSE it does, typical denier mentality, no one disputes that it's the HUMAN factor which is accelerating those changes unnaturally that will lead us to catastrophic events within our time frame.


What puppets? I don't have any puppets.
You're calling me a 'moron' for saying the planet undergoes changes, then you agree with me that the planet undergoes changes.
So it's the HUMAN FACTOR, eh? And exactly WHAT do you people intend to DO with those humans?

Aug 20, 2019
"Geothermal Heat Exposes Glacial Cliffs"
https://www.icela...-cliffs/
says antigoracle

I am impressed with the text from your link from Icelandreview.com
Iceland is an island, and that island is a geothermal wonder with a lot of volcanic activity - which is the real reason for the melting of its glaciers. These are facts that can't be denied. It's Mother Nature that's doing all the warming there.

Aug 20, 2019
-contd-
"Fifty-metre [164 ft] high cliffs have emerged to the west of Grímsvötn volcano in southeast Iceland after having been covered by the Vatnajökull glacier for fifty years, RÚV reports. Geophysicist Magnús Tumi Guðmundsson says that increased volcanic activity and geothermal heat, not climate change, are responsible for the glacial melt that has recently uncovered the towering rock walls. The Icelandic Glaciological Society discovered the cliffs on a spring outing in the area.

Grímsvötn is located on the west side of Vatnajökull glacier and is the most active volcano in Iceland. Over the last few decades, its activity has increased, and the resultant heat has melted part of the glacier.

"If we'd talked about this twenty years ago," Magnús Tumi continued, "I'd have said it meant that Grímsvötn would see [an increased accumulation of water]. What's happened over the same time period, however, is that the geothermal heat has shifted such that water does not accumulate in..."

Aug 20, 2019
Sam B
So, why don't you and your buddies just create a private comment group
So who's the bully here Sam? I object to being told that I 'don't care' - about the subject I actually care a great deal about. And your response is to tell me i should get off the board. Maybe you should get of the board - cuz telling people to get off the board is not exactly open minded - or democratic - is it?

Again - on the subject of the 'official story.' Science is a collaborative process. Thousands of highly trained specialists - working hard together - .
says greeno

Apparently he was referring to the Australian bullyboys who wind up in these AGW phorums to verbally punish those who are not with them on the AGW scare. They vote enmasse as a mob. Who knows? Some or all of them could be Mafia immigrants who moved to Australia and have a need to show their stuff on the interweb.
I agree that they should have their own site and phorums to agree with each other on everything.

Aug 20, 2019
Apparently he was referring to the Australian bullyboys who wind up in these AGW phorums to verbally punish those who are not with them on the AGW scare
No - he was referring to me - which is very clear in the language of his post. So thanks for trying to splain what someone else meant.
I agree that they should have their own site and phorums to agree with each other on everything
Well knock yourself out - go ahead and set that up for 'them.' Mean time - I am happy to stick around - and advocate for what I am passionate about. The fact that you get voted down a lot - may be due to the fact that a lot of people disagree with your posts. Thought about that one?

Aug 20, 2019
SEU says
volcanic activity - which is the real reason for the melting of its glaciers. These are facts that can't be denied.


Or not.
Typically, radiation provides two-thirds of the melt energy, turbulent fluxes one-third. Volcanic eruptions and continuous geothermal activity at the glacier bed also melts ice, but in the current climate settings this melt has small effect on total mass balance
Once again - we see a situation that can have more than one influence. But SEU declares that this "cannot be denied." SEU wants any one who may have a differing opinion - to go away - so that only SEU may pronounce the truth. SEU does not even understand the basics of science.

https://earthice...._iceland

Aug 21, 2019
STRIKE WHILE THE IRON IS HOT
SEU> Grímsvötn the most active volcano in Iceland has melted part of the glacier

For while Iceland's volcanoes
In their molten furnaces rage
Where there molten larva
Melts this icy Icelandic tundra
Melts these icy streams
Melts these icy fingers of these glaciers
For without these icy Icelandic glaciers
The increased warmth
Of this distant sun upon the sky
Will warm this frozen Icelandic regolith
While this molten lava warms beneath this frozen regolith
For this will provide this breath of summer warmth
To sprout these native birchly saplings
But only Icelandic warriors
Only if you strike while the iron is hot

Aug 21, 2019
It is easy to give short shrift to the volcano question, as it is far easier to blame most everything on the activities of humans and their daily lives. But far underground, there are natural forces that are building up strength and almost ready.
Quite often, those natural forces are mediated by small quakes to lessen the friction and pressure on the upper mantle. The regolith moves and humans panic. Rocks fall from tall mountains; rivers backflow; flowing rivers dry up when glaciers have melted from volcanic heat. But through it all, it is the fault of humans and the petrol in their cars and trucks.
So, as Atlas shrugs, the Earth steadies and the heavy weight compacts the lower mantle, which also bears down on the upper core, which forces much more magma up to the surface via volcanos.
It is a very impressive cycle, as most Terran cycles are. And the humans run like cockroaches to escape the perceived wrath of Nature, while Mother Nature laughs to see such sport.

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