Maya demand an end to doomsday myth

Guatemala's Mayan people accused the government and tour groups on Wednesday of perpetuating the myth that their calendar foresees the imminent end of the world for monetary gain.

"We are speaking out against deceit, lies and twisting of the truth, and turning us into folklore-for-profit. They are not telling the truth about time cycles," charged Felipe Gomez, leader of the Maya alliance Oxlaljuj Ajpop.

Several films and documentaries have promoted the idea that the ancient Mayan calendar predicts that doomsday is less than two months away, on December 21, 2012.

The Culture Ministry is hosting a massive event in Guatemala City—which as many as 90,000 people are expected to attend—just in case the world actually does end, while tour groups are promoting doomsday-themed getaways.

Maya leader Gomez urged the Tourism Institute to rethink the doomsday celebration, which he criticized as a "show" that was disrespectful to .

Experts say that for the Maya, all that ends in 2012 is one of their cycles, not the world.

Gomez's group issued a statement saying that the new Maya time cycle simply "means there will be big changes on the personal, family and community level, so that there is harmony and balance between mankind and nature."

Oxlajuj Ajpop is holding events it considers sacred in five cities to mark the event and Gomez said the Culture Ministry would be wise to throw its support behind their real celebrations.

More than half of Guatemala's population of nearly 15 million are from indigenous groups of Mayan descent.

The has 18 months of 20 days each plus a sacred month, "Wayeb," of five days. "B'aktun" is the larget unit in the time cycle system, and is about 400 years. The broader era spans 13 B'aktun, or about 5,200 years.

The Mayan culture enjoyed a golden age between 250 AD and 900 AD.

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Oct 25, 2012
I thought after the 2000 'world end' we would be safe from that for at least 100 years.
Anyway, any poll going what then next world end year is going to be?
What about the year 2020 :)

Oct 25, 2012
Doesn't the Unix clock run out around 2030?

Will the grey aliens and transmorphic beings even allow that?

Oct 25, 2012
I've just thought of a great population control tactic.

All who believe the end of the world is happening on (insert arbitrary date here) can sign up to a form of painless euthanasia on the day before it happens, so they can avoid having to suffer the "real" end of the world. This act will be made an incentive by making all inheritances tax free if you take part.

1) population control
2) stupidity control
3) if the end of the world does happen, that person has not have died in vain.

It's a win-win situation.

Oct 25, 2012
I see that our calendar actually ends on Dec. 31, 2012!

Unix 32-bit OS clock wraps around on Jan. 19 2038. Surely there is something we can come up with earlier than that. How about that asteroid Apophis? I think that's due in 2029.

Oct 25, 2012
I'm having a New Year's party on the 21st. B'aktun 13

Oct 25, 2012
I thought after the 2000 'world end' we would be safe from that for at least 100 years.
Anyway, any poll going what then next world end year is going to be?
What about the year 2020 :)

Based on Isaac Newton's calculation, it will probably be the year 2065, which will likely be the next "major" year picked up on by Christians, both "cults" and "mainstream" denominations are likely to fall for this figure, particularly since there is some apparent mathematical merit to the calculation, given the framework and assumptions of the various texts used to derive that number. Since Christians view the Bible as both Inspired and Infallible, it's easy to see how they could convince themselves of the "truth" of this interpretation.

Newton was not actually saying that was the end, but rather that based on his view and understanding of eschatology, it could not be before that date.

The number is derived below:

Oct 25, 2012
Take the 490 years of Israel's Biblical exile "seventy weeks of years" and subract that from the number of days in seven years (the book or revelation,) with each "day" in a "year" among the "seven years" itself represent a year.

Therefore 2555 - 490 = 2065.

However, the 490 years are actually interpreted as distributed among a period of time greater than 490 years, and it's likely the 2065 would be too.

So therefore Newton concluded that mathematically it could NOT end before 2065. He was not saying that it WOULD end, however, I am sure any number of cultists and even so-called mainstream christians will find a way to twist this into another doomsday prophecy (in spite of the fact nothing in Revelation has come to pass in any way during the past 2555 years, so if the seven years are "years of years" then the end might not even be possible for another 2600 years, and that assumes the book was inspired at all.

So there you have it, 2065 is the next big "scare," maybe 2036 first.

Oct 25, 2012
Mayans should also be offended that the doomsday myths are a syncretism of Aztecan doomsday descriptions with Mayan calendars.

@ Kedas: The software clock problem had factual basis, it was generally successfully mitigated beforehand according to later tests, and there were some observable problems where it wasn't.

This on the other hand is bollocks.

@ Lurker: Newton was a religious heretic, so I don't see why his ideas on that topic would be embraced by mainstream religions. Instead mainstream religious cult spin offs are regularly "doomsdaying", many times since 2000 for example.

One of the really bad mainstream superstitions (christians) are doomsday based in a bad way, as is it fellow cults. Bollocks, of course.

Oct 28, 2012
Anything for a buck.

Dec 08, 2012
I have no doubt that the world and/or our civilization have an end date, but the latter will most likely occur as consequences, naturally, and I don't think it's likely that we can ever predict it accurately. For every action there is a consequence. It all depends on actions then.

Now if a big asteroid or planet x are on the way, we can probably predict that by way of looking, and well... That would be "Seeing it coming". My biggest concern for dec. 21, 2012 is this: how people are going to act.

Thanks to media, Internet/ television, etc., in particular, I may be staring down the barrel of a gun held by some panic-stricken fool in a Mad Max tizzy, hellbent on stealing my dried oatmeal and antibiotic ointment. Hope not.

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