Great Pyramid has two secret chambers: French architect

Anyway it is probably only the Cheops pyramid that is from some pre-Egyptian era.

Anyway it is probably only the Cheops pyramid that is from some pre-Egyptian era.

The step pyramid of djoser predates the great pyramid and demonstrates a more primitive architectural form, which is itself predated by the mud brick mastabas at Saqqara. The Egyptians were the first megabuilders- no need to invoke Eric von Daniken and his ilk.

In March 2007, Houdin advanced the theory that the Great Pyramid had been built inside-out using an internal spiral ramp, as opposed to an external ramp as had long been suggested.

I bet those egyptians were smarter than you PS3

So you're saying that since present day they can't maintain the structure that they never could? What a stupid statement. Its like saying arabs never invented arithmetic since today they're all just bombing everything in the middle east...

The Great Pyramid has only been dated anecdotally. Since there was no mortar used in its construction, there is no organic material avilable in situ to accurately date the time of its construction.

I am ASTOUNDED at how "ignorant" most commentors are about the Pyramids of Egypt.

The Great Pyramid has only been dated anecdotally. Since there was no mortar used in its construction, there is no organic material avilable in situ to accurately date the time of its construction.

Plenty of organics- the buried wooden boats beside the pyramid discovered in the '50s also attributed to Khufu, the workers' village and graveyard...etc.
All confirm the established age of the pyramid.

The great pyramid was constructed at the very beginning of the Egyptian civilization, we are told our first civilization. I have a hard time believing mankind went from hunting with small stones to suddenly positioning 70 ton stones high up in the great pyramid.

I saw the show on this and his theory seems reasonable. You can see a spiral on the outside of the pyramid in the right light.

the radius worked out equals the exact hieght of the pyramid. Calculations such as these are beyond coincidence.

The great pyramid was constructed at the very beginning of the Egyptian civilization, we are told our first civilization.

have a hard time believing mankind went from hunting with small stones to suddenly positioning 70 ton stones high up in the great pyramid.

I saw the show on this and his theory seems reasonable. You can see a spiral on the outside of the pyramid in the right light.

HIS theory seems to be the one with an INTERNAL spiral which is silly. It would be a bottleneck of the worst kind. It is a STUPID idea UNLESS he can show a great tunnel in the side and a canal going in and then out and show they used hydraulics and on and on and on with engineering there is no indication they had. ..Ethelred

I myself believe I have read enough to know there will be no burial furniture anywhere in the pyramids as they have yet to have any evidence of being used in tombs in the first place.

any and all "evidence" placing the construction of the Great Pyramid c. 4500 BP is strictly anecdotal or proximal, at the very best.

How does this consideration differ from the considerations for other dates of construction?

I myself believe I have read enough to know there will be no burial furniture anywhere in the pyramids as they have yet to have any evidence of being used in tombs in the first place.

Do a google image search for "sarcophagus of khufu" and you will see plenty of evidence. There is a massive red granite tomb in the king's chamber. It was placed there during construction, as it is too big to have been moved through the hallways leading there.

Again, a presumption.

A box with a lid on it, entirely devoid of any slightest presence of funerary remains.

Perforce, anything bigger than the dimensions of the passageways had to be implaced at the same time.

When blocks were cut at the various quarries they were organized and cataloged in order to prepare them for transportation to the site and final placement during assembly. The blocks were marked in red ink to fulfill this purpose and these markings would include the placements information and often also the name of the work-gang that would be directly working with the blocks. When the blocks were placed the markings were rubbed off of any surface that would be showing. Fortunately, they often did NOT remove these markings on surfaces which were not intended to be exposed. This has left us with some examples of these markings which can be seen on many sites. We will see many examples of these types of markings.

Hopefully, research will go forward until its whole purpose and construction, both above and below ground, and the identities of its builders are known and understood.

I prefer demystifying explanations to mystifying presentiments. Maybe that's an effect of not growing up as a non-believer.

"Sarcophagus" has no lid, corner missing. Why would a sarcophagus be without lid or mummy?

Although the fact remains that its construction method is unknown. I don't dispute that it was built by human hands.

As to similarity between GP and the step pyramid and mastabas- there is none beyond the general shape,

and there is no hard evidence to support that the minor, or proto pyramids were built PRIOR to the Great Pyramid, and it's associated complex.

but I have to admit that it appears obvious to me, at least, that such a link is very likely to exist.

Simply impossible.

The lack of decoration of any kind in the GP is not just striking, it is an essential fact.

Virtually every other monument or building in the sacred or pharaonic traditions of Egypt is lavishly decorated,

most of it explicitly stating the who, what, when, and why of the installation.

Again, I'll state that all the evidence used to support the claim of construction c. 3200 is circumstantial.

Furthermore, there is evidence of tampering in at least one critical instance -that of the name "khufu" supposedly left by the "builders" in the top of the relieving chamber.

To date, I am not aware of any direct, written, incontrovertible,match

Search for "the Upuat Project" to get up to date, if you aren't already, and then ask yourself why Hawass has refused to let Gantenbrink send another robot to further explore these shafts

That the Giza complex served some complicated metafunction comprising elements of religion,

statecraft, and astronomy seems certain.

"Sarcophagus" has no lid, corner missing. Why would a sarcophagus be without lid or mummy?

And I do solumnly testify that if this story is made up, it was not made up by me.

And I do solumnly testify that if this story is made up, it was not made up by me.

Damn good story. Would be most ironic if the Muslims have been revering the sarcophagus of an idolatrous self proclaimed god for the last 1200 yrs!

I think it would be along the same lines as those authentic egyptian obelisks in front of major cathedrals in Rome and elsewhere

There was a Moslem expedition some centuries ago to dismantle one of the pyramids... They gave up after 9 mos.

@ frajo,
Of course you're right. I was thinking of the more recent past, and specifically of the Muslim ban on art, music, statuary, etc. The thought of them revering a Pharaonic burial stone struck me as particularly ironic.

By the time the cathedrals were built, probably all memory of Egypt was gone in the West. In any case, Christianity has never had the same fierce hatred of idolatry as the Muslims.