Black hole movies coming soon, says leading astronomer

Astronomers deliver first photo of black hole
Credit: NSF

By the time an international group of scientists stunned the world with the first ever image of a black hole, they were already planning a sequel: a movie showing how massive clouds of gas are forever sucked into the void.

The Event Horizon Telescope Collaboration has already recorded the necessary observations and is processing the mountains of data to produce the first video, which will likely be a little jerky, in 2020.

"What I predict is that by the end of the next decade we will be making high quality real-time movies of black holes that reveal not just how they look, but how they act on the cosmic stage," Shep Doeleman, the project's director, told AFP in an interview.

The entire team, comprising 347 scientists from around the world, were honored Thursday with the Breakthrough Prize in Fundamental Physics, winning $3 million for the so-called "Oscar of science" for the image they released on April 10.

"I've been working on this for 20 years. So my wife was finally convinced that what I was doing was worth it a little bit," joked the 52-year-old father of two, who is an astronomer at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics.

Astronomers could previously detect the light that is being swallowed by black holes, but "we just didn't have the sharpness in our images to see what shape the light had."

That obstacle was ultimately overcome when the team linked multiple together, thus simulating an Earth-sized capable of observing at an unprecedented resolution objects that appear microscopic in the night sky.

Galactic explorers

Toward the end of the 2000s, the hard work began to pay off. The team obtained approval to use three telescopes to establish a proof of concept, and in 2008 published the first measurements of a black hole.

By April 2017, they had assembled eight radio telescopes in Chile, Spain, Mexico, the US, and the South Pole.

The giant instruments observe high frequency radio waves, allowing astronomers to see through the gas and dust of the galaxy, all the way through to the boundaries of .

In addition to its observations of the black hole in the Messier 87 (M87) galaxy, the team also looked at the one at the center of our own Milky Way: Sagittarius-A*.

They took readings in 2018, and plan to repeat them next year.

Our own black hole is far more turbulent and therefore difficult to observe.

"Orbits of matter around M87 take about a month to circulate. Whereas orbits around Sagittarius-A* can take only half an hour, during one night of observing Sagittarius-A* can change before your eyes," explained Doeleman.

"It could be that maybe we will make the first crude movie" by 2020, he added. Ideally, scientists would need more telescopes, both on Earth and in orbit, to improve the resolution yet further.

But the manner in which the first image of M87 has captured people's imagination has left Doeleman optimistic about the prospect of future funding, both from governments and possibly private donors.

"The EHT has delivered more value than any other scientific project that I can think of in history," he said.

"We do see ourselves as explorers, we've taken a journey in our minds. And we are instruments at the edge of a black hole. And now we're coming back to report what we found."


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Sep 06, 2019
Science fiction movies about black holes have been around for decades, where is the news?

Sep 06, 2019
@Cantdrive85
Is that all you've got?

Show us your research.

Sep 06, 2019
@Cantdrive85
Is that all you've got?

Show us your research.


EU research = "It's plasmoid woo!"

Sep 07, 2019
"Astronomers could previously detect the light that is being swallowed by black holes,"

Really? If it's being swallowed then it's gone. A little more thought put into the text of such descriptions would be appreciated.

Sep 07, 2019
@Cantdrive85
Is that all you've got?

Show us your research.


EU research = "It's plasmoid woo!"

The Safire Project update, Electric Sun model validated;
https://youtu.be/DTaXfbvGf8E

Sep 07, 2019
@Cantdrive85
Is that all you've got?

Show us your research.


EU research = "It's plasmoid woo!"

The Safire Project update, Electric Sun model validated;
https://youtu.be/DTaXfbvGf8E


Lol. There is not a single electric sun (lol) model that is even scientifically possible, let alone verified! Pure woo. Are you telling us that they have found the incoming, invisible current to power the Sun? That they have figured out why it is invisible? That they have discovered new science that shows how it could sneak past the outflowing solar wind and interplanetary magnetic field?
Errrrr, nah. They have stuck a squillion volts through a metallic sphere, and not even bothered to write up the results. Which are of no interest to anybody. Except metallic sphere enthusiasts.

Sep 07, 2019
"Astronomers could previously detect the light that is being swallowed by black holes,"

Really? If it's being swallowed then it's gone. A little more thought put into the text of such descriptions would be appreciated.
says marcush

LOL Perhaps that is why the scientists cannot find Dark Matter. It has all been swallowed up by the alleged Black Holes. And that may also be the reason why NORMAL MATTER seems to be in such short supply (~5%) so the thinking goes. After all, a lot can happen in 13.8 BILLION YEARS.
If Black Holes are so plentiful in the Universe, then it should be obvious that they are on their way to swallowing ALL Matter/Energy. So what does that leave us with (and all other Life Forms in other galaxies)? Not a whole lot of much, I'm afraid.
Actually, I'm not afraid, since I am not made of Matter/Energy. But it should be of some great worry-worry to humans when their beloved AGW is overshadowed by an even greater extinction event.
Just sayin'

Sep 07, 2019
Blackhole at the Movies

Screening on a cinema near you
SELFIE in the Lime light
The Blackhole from The Pit
Blackhole the Zombie
to be followed
In Time and Space by Oscar wining sequels

p.s. but seriously, these swirling, spiralling, ravenous, blackholes in these artists oil on canvas
are worlds apart from this dull, lifeless, orange, indistinct, fuzzy blob, for surely we are not to be presented with an animated, dull, lifeless, orange, indistinct, fuzzy blob

Sep 07, 2019
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Sep 07, 2019
Really? If it's being swallowed then it's gone. A little more thought put into the text of such descriptions would be appreciated.


Wrong. 'Being swallowed' suggests it has not yet been swallowed. They are detecting light as it crosses the EH.

Sep 07, 2019
A RESEARCH GRANT

This dull, lifeless, orange, indistinct, fuzzy blob
By its sheer presence
Has captured peoples conscience
Fore as we hear these words

But the manner in which the first image of M87 has captured people's imagination has left Doeleman optimistic about the prospect of future funding, both from governments and possibly private donors

A rule of thumb
If you want to capture peoples imagination
You want to capture their hearts
You want to capture their wallets
Personally, I would opt for an artist's simulation

A RESEARCH GRANT

Sep 07, 2019
I wonder if in any of these movies there will be any discussion of the Inverse Square Law of Gravity? Or if there'll be any discussion of the Mass Dependency of Gravity?

Naw, why let some real science get in the way of a good fantasy from the coloring book of some babe at Caltec.

Sep 07, 2019
Surely Benni, you don't mean, you can't mean

Benni> I wonder if in any of these movies there will be any discussion of the Inverse Square Law of Gravity? Or if there'll be any discussion of the Mass Dependency of Gravity?

Naw, why let some real science get in the way of a good fantasy from the coloring book of some babe at Caltec.

You do mean
The inimitable
The one and only
Sir Isaac Newton and his laws of gravitation: Gravitations Inverse Square Law

p.s. until today, it wasn't obvious, that this selfie, was a means to an end, a research grant

Sep 07, 2019
Surely Benni, you don't mean, you can't mean

Benni> I wonder if in any of these movies there will be any discussion of the Inverse Square Law of Gravity? Or if there'll be any discussion of the Mass Dependency of Gravity?

Naw, why let some real science get in the way of a good fantasy from the coloring book of some babe at Caltec.

You do mean
The inimitable
The one and only
Sir Isaac Newton and his laws of gravitation: Gravitations Inverse Square Law

p.s. this selfie, was a means to an end, a research grant
........to cover the cost of more crayons for the movies for which she will be a special consultant.

Have you seen the costs of crayons lately? They are 4-5 times the cost from when I was little, I wonder how much more since Egg was little?
Actually, I'm not afraid, since I am not made of Matter/Energy.
? Or the Caltec babe?

You just watch, after the first BH movie fantasy, orange & black crayons will suddenly be in short supply.

Sep 07, 2019
Sagittarius*A and the Caltec babe in the stalls

Fortunately Sagittarius*A is to young and agile
As it is dancing the light fantastic
To stand still
Long enough
For a selfie or a movie!

Sep 07, 2019
@Benni

Why are you still here?
Tell us about solar sails.

Sep 07, 2019
@Cantdrive85
Is that all you've got?

Show us your research.


EU research = "It's plasmoid woo!"

The Safire Project update, Electric Sun model validated;
https://youtu.be/DTaXfbvGf8E


Lol. There is not a single electric sun (lol) model that is even scientifically possible, let alone verified! Pure woo. Are you telling us that they have found the incoming, invisible current to power the Sun? That they have figured out why it is invisible? That they have discovered new science that shows how it could sneak past the outflowing solar wind and interplanetary magnetic field?
Errrrr, nah. They have stuck a squillion volts through a metallic sphere, and not even bothered to write up the results. Which are of no interest to anybody. Except metallic sphere enthusiasts.


Trance Gemini, I tell you what.

Sep 07, 2019
It's getting worse for the liar deniers. Now there's gonna be movies. This is delicious.

Sep 07, 2019
Sagittarius*A and the Caltec babe in the stalls

Fortunately Sagittarius*A is to young and agile
As it is dancing the light fantastic
To stand still
Long enough
For a selfie or a movie!
......yeah granDy, you'd think with her proficiency in the use of black & orange crayons that she could have come up with something? I mean, what with SagA being a mere 26k lys away, but nothing?

Maybe she ran out of orange & black crayons because she was making too many obvious mistakes & had to start over many times. Now she continues looking for a new supplier due to an orange & black shortage the worldover because so many kiddie kindergartners the worldover are copying her art? Of course it could also be that we're creeping up on Halloween season, Trick or Treat says the BH PumpkinHead on your doorstep.


Sep 08, 2019
@Benni
SEU was never little. He was created as he is now - full size. Has never experienced baby or childhood. Did I miss anything? I doubt it. Being human, in my opinion, is much too complicated.

Hallowe'en brings Brexit - we hope.

Sep 08, 2019
I know there are some seriously frustrated types on here, but how Benni manages to launch into a misogynist rant over black holes is beyond me. He should really consult a doctor.

Sep 08, 2019
Sagittarius*A
and the Caltec babe
in the stalls

come this Halloween night
on this witching hour
when these witchlets with their little pumpkins

these little witchlets
with all these magical coloured lights of led's
their little orange pumpkins glowing silhouetted against their Sefie interiors

for on these Shires lanes
these Shire dimly lit estates and pavements
these little witchlets hand in parentally hand these witches gleefully walk this nightly Halloween

as these orange glowing Halloween pumpkins
all a glow is their splendid attire mirror this infamous Selfie
fade out of sight hand in hand in the hand of these Halloween gleeful little witchlets

Selfie, this giant elliptical galaxy called Messier 87
fades this lime light in to its obscurity
its inimitable infamous Selfie

Sep 08, 2019
A Misogynist Rant: by ThomasQuinn

I know
there are some
seriously frustrated types

on here
but how Benni manages
to launch

into a misogynist rant
over black holes
is beyond me

He should
really consult
a doctor

specially arranged in Haiku
this traditional form
of Japanese poetry

in honour of
A Misogynist Rant
by ThomasQuinn

Sep 08, 2019
I know there are some seriously frustrated types on here, but how Benni manages to launch into a misogynist rant over black holes is beyond me. He should really consult a doctor.
.......you mean speaking one's thought's about outlandish claims as opposed to all the unending foul mouthed name calling rants by the likes of the schneibos & castros? Why don't you call them out for mental health consultation?

I know, you have priorities you imagine to be of a higher standing than calling out the most filthy mouthed human debris among the chatroom participants, right? And your fantasy Pop-Cosmology priorities supercedes ANYTHING related to the Immutable Laws of Physics like using orange & black crayons to draw false images patterned EXACTLY after an Einstein ring as for example as at the bottom of the page at:

https://www.quora...ein-ring


Sep 08, 2019
In almost all presentations of physics today we are told that gravity is caused by "curvature of space-time". This was not Einstein's view, nor ihe view of QFT. Einstein believed that gravity is a force field not unlike the electro­magnetic field.

"[There is] a field of force, namely the gravitational field, which possesses the remarkable property of imparting the same acceleration to all bodies." – A. Einstein (E1923, p. 114)

Space-time curvature, like the four-dimensional concept, had its origin in mathematics, when searching for a mathematical method that could embody his Principle of Equivalence.


Sep 08, 2019
Free Albert Einstein from the shackles of the Spirit World

Benni> In presentations of physics today we are told that gravity is caused by curvature of space-time

A Time Lords work is never done
Einstein's Gravitational Field

There exists some confusion
As evidenced in the literature
Regarding
The nature the gravitational field
In Einstein's General Theory of Relativity
It is argued here
That this confusion
Is a result of a change in interpretation
Of the gravitational field
Einstein identified the existence of gravity
With the inertial motion
Of
Accelerating bodies
In free-fall
Whereas contemporary physicists identify
The existence of gravity with space-time curvature
The interpretation of gravity
As a curvature in space-time
Is an interpretation
Einstein did not agree with

https://www.googl...2o4IQNwg

Sep 08, 2019
In almost all presentations of physics today we are told that gravity is caused by "curvature of space-time". This was not Einstein's view, nor ihe view of QFT. Einstein believed that gravity is a force field not unlike the electro­magnetic field.

"[There is] a field of force, namely the gravitational field, which possesses the remarkable property of imparting the same acceleration to all bodies." – A. Einstein (E1923, p. 114)

Space-time curvature, like the four-dimensional concept, had its origin in mathematics, when searching for a mathematical method that could embody his Principle of Equivalence.



Total lies from a clown who doesn't understand the first thing about the relevant science. Or any other science, for that matter. When you have to blatantly lie to make a point, you know that your Dunning-Kruger has become terminal. Do the decent thing and look for a euthanasia clinic.

Sep 08, 2019
I know there are some seriously frustrated types on here, but how Benni manages to launch into a misogynist rant over black holes is beyond me. He should really consult a doctor.
.......you mean speaking one's thought's about outlandish claims as opposed to all the unending foul mouthed name calling rants by the likes of the schneibos & castros? Why don't you call them out for mental health consultation?

I know, you have priorities you imagine to be of a higher standing than calling out the most filthy mouthed human debris among the chatroom participants, right? And your fantasy Pop-Cosmology priorities supercedes ANYTHING related to the Immutable Laws of Physics like using orange & black crayons to draw false images patterned EXACTLY after an Einstein ring as for example as at the bottom of the page at:

https://www.quora...ein-ring



Go away you uneducated cretin. You are clueless.

Sep 08, 2019
I wonder if in any of these movies there will be any discussion of the Inverse Square Law of Gravity? Or if there'll be any discussion of the Mass Dependency of Gravity?

Naw, why let some real science get in the way of a good fantasy from the coloring book of some babe at Caltec.


Why would they discuss irrelevant things? Moron. And it's Caltech, you ignorant imbecile.

Sep 08, 2019
A Misogynist Rant: by ThomasQuinn

ThomasQuinn
are we going to see any meat on the bones
or are we simply
going to have
grin and bare your Misogynist Rant
fore as you bore the sharp brunt of your rant
ThomasQuinn, A Misogynist Rant is a double edged sword

Sep 08, 2019
Our Quiescent Sagittarius*A

Orbits around Sagittarius-A* can take only half an hour
at 44 million km diameter
With
Stars
Plasma
Magnetic fields
Gamma-rays
Orbiting
In half an hour
Is 1/4 percent light speed
For
A so active blackhole
With an accretion disc
This immense activity
25,000Lys hence
And not a bite to eat
But
At 50million Lys
If this blackhole
Even changes its mind in mid bite
It causes ripples in this space time continuum
It distorts the very fabric of space
It cause gravitational warping
In this gravitation well
That our earthly earth resides
But
To our own
Super massive blackhole
To our Sagittarius*A
You would know it's there
For its resides in our Galactic centre
Devouring our Galaxy from the inside out
For Sagittarius*A
Is like Macavity
The Mysteries Cat
When you think he's there
He's really not there at all

Macavity or Sagittarius*A
You think he's there
But then, its though, he's never really there at all

Sep 08, 2019
I know there are some seriously frustrated types on here, but how Benni manages to launch into a misogynist rant over black holes is beyond me. He should really consult a doctor.
says ThomasQuinn

A misogynist rant over Black Holes? Kindly copy & paste any comment of Benni's where he has said anything of a misogynist nature. I have never read any such thing. Perhaps you need some strong reading glasses, ThomasQuinn.

Sep 08, 2019
In almost all presentations of physics today we are told that gravity is caused by "curvature of space-time". This was not Einstein's view, nor ihe view of QFT. Einstein believed that gravity is a force field not unlike the electro­magnetic field.

"[There is] a field of force, namely the gravitational field, which possesses the remarkable property of imparting the same acceleration to all bodies." – A. Einstein (E1923, p. 114)

Space-time curvature, like the four-dimensional concept, had its origin in mathematics, when searching for a mathematical method that could embody his Principle of Equivalence.



Total lies from a clown who doesn't understand the first thing about the relevant science. Or any other science, for that matter. When you have to blatantly lie to make a point, you know that your Dunning-Kruger has become terminal. Do the decent thing and look for a euthanasia clinic.
says Castrovagina

No, they aren't lies, jonesy. Do some research.

Sep 08, 2019
Total lies from a clown who doesn't understand the first thing about the relevant science. Or any other science, for that matter. When you have to blatantly lie to make a point, you know that your Dunning-Kruger has become terminal. Do the decent thing and look for a euthanasia clinic.

says Castrovagina

No, they aren't lies, jonesy. Do some research.
.......that would involve doing some serious reading in the physical sciences, he only knows how to engage in name calling rants.

I wonder if he's been practicing his coloring book skills in orange & black? He has yet to comprehend that if a powerful enough optical telescope were to focus on that galaxy that it would see NOTHING like what the Caltec babe drew with her crayons. But let nothing stand in the way of a good fantasy, right jonesy?

Sep 08, 2019
@Benni, it has been apparent for a long time that jonesy has an aversion to anything new. He never seems to understand that scientists are most often reversing their understanding of their theories when it is found to be wrong, while prefacing their explanation for their backtracking as, "what had been previously thought" and other ways to profess their intention to retract what they had already submitted, and that the public had read.
jonesy doesn't like it when someone who is a commentator in physorg comes up with a brilliant idea and talks about it. This is because jonesy believe that it is ONLY SCIENTISTS who are able to come up with brilliant ideas, nobody else. So jonesy becomes all discombobulated and has a cow, all the while cussing and calling out ad hominem to scare people away from physorg. Otto and Strumpy do the same thing, except that neither of them do maths or science. They are just here, that's all.

Sep 08, 2019
So all we got was a picture of M87 that resembles an orangey donut or a bagel and barely anything from Sgr*A which is so much closer to our SS. But they want to make a movie of...of what? And, it will be a little jerky, at that, so they say.

Sep 09, 2019
Watching the black hole deniers freak out, melt down, and start making up conspiracy theories about the black hole images is juicy.

Sep 09, 2019
This Selfie that is M87

Is a computational generated graphic
Fore with these advances in movies such as of Avatar
It is a simple task
To make a computational movie of Selfie
Compared to the complexity of Avatar
So to see this complexity of Avatar

Avatar: The Official Trailer - 20th Century FOX -
https://www.youtu...NL1qE6VY

Sep 09, 2019
jonesy doesn't like it when someone who is a commentator in physorg comes up with a brilliant idea and talks about it.


Hahahahaha! When did this happen? Guess I missed that!

Sep 09, 2019
No, they aren't lies, jonesy. Do some research.


Yes they are. Fact. Go away, lizard boy.

Sep 09, 2019
So all we got was a picture of M87 that resembles an orangey donut or a bagel and barely anything from Sgr*A which is so much closer to our SS. But they want to make a movie of...of what? And, it will be a little jerky, at that, so they say.
........oh but Egg, this is the peculiar usefulness of the Caltec babe. She will lend her newfound status within the fantasies of Pop-Cosmology culture to make a lot of money as a consultant to the movie makers.

After the first movie is created, suckers like Cvag & schneibo, etc, will spend 20-40 dollars & pounds to seat in a seat thinking they are about to learn some new science without even realizing those donuts she is creating will drive Cvag, Schneibo, etc, into hunger pains. They will emerge from the movie & immediately head for the nearest donut shop to satisfy the cravings their already bulbous guts demand be quenched, but voila, they go to bed that night & wake up the next morning five pounds heavier than the day before.

Sep 09, 2019
Thanks for melting down some more, @Benni. Eventually you're going to have to take the drugs the psychiatrist gives you, if you want to get better.

Sep 09, 2019

........oh but Egg, this is the peculiar usefulness of the Caltec babe. She will lend her newfound status within the fantasies of Pop-Cosmology culture to make a lot of money as a consultant to the movie makers.


Caltech, you illiterate moron. Learn to read. And spell.


Sep 09, 2019
Watching the black hole deniers freak out, melt down, and start making up conspiracy theories about the black hole images is juicy.
........hey schneibo, you really believe that's a real picture of a black hole at the top of this page don't you? You are clueless as to why it isn't, or if you do think it is a real picture explain to us why it is impossible for us to view such an image in an optical telescope.

Think Inverse Square Law schneibo, and let that rattle around in your head while sitting in that $40 high-tech seat at the nearest such movie theater as you contribute to the income of that Caltec babe who thanks you for being such a sucker for watching her orange & black crayons in action.

Sep 09, 2019
Thanks for melting down some more, @Benni. Eventually you're going to have to take the drugs the psychiatrist gives you, if you want to get better.


........so schneibo, you really do believe that's a real picture of a black hole at the top of this page don't you? You are clueless as to why it isn't, or if you do think it is a real picture explain to us why it is impossible for us to view such an image in an optical telescope, can't do it can you?

Sep 09, 2019
........so schneibo, you really do believe that's a real picture of a black hole at the top of this page don't you? You are clueless as to why it isn't, or if you do think it is a real picture explain to us why it is impossible for us to view such an image in an optical telescope, can't do it can you?


Yes he can, and already has. As have others. The fact that you are too moronic to understand the explanation is not our fault. Get an education, you poser.

Sep 09, 2019
........so schneibo, you really do believe that's a real picture of a black hole at the top of this page don't you?


No, you idiot, it is an image of the event horizon. We cannot image a black hole. There is a clue in its name as to why that cannot be done.

Sep 09, 2019
@Benni Says;
In almost all presentations of physics today we are told that gravity is caused by "curvature of space-time". This was not Einstein's view, nor ihe view of QFT. Einstein believed that gravity is a force field not unlike the electro­magnetic field.

Wikipedia says;

Gravity is most accurately described by the general theory of relativity (proposed by Albert Einstein in 1915) which describes gravity not as a force, but as a consequence of the curvature of spacetime caused by the uneven distribution of mass.

Wrong again, Benni

Sep 09, 2019
Wrong again, Benni. As usual.


Edited for accuracy.

Sep 09, 2019
Oh, youse guys are nasty. Asking @Benni what curvature tensors are is just out of bounds considering he can't do algebra like

2 + 2 / 2 = ?

Sep 09, 2019
After the Movie is Over, how about a Scrumptious Jam Selfie

Benni>
After the first movie is created
Suckers like Cvag & schneibo, etc
Will spend 20-40 dollars & pounds to seat in a seat
They will emerge from the movie
& immediately head for the nearest donut shop
To satisfy the cravings their already bulbous guts demand be quenched
But voila
They go to bed that night
& wake up the next morning five pounds heavier than the day before

Jonesy will say "STUFF THIS " biting on another Selfie (a pseudonym for a doughnut)
For jonesy
Will become a supper massive Selfie

Which is more than can be said for Sagittarius*A
Macavity or Sagittarius*A
When you think he's there
But then, it's though, he's never really there at all

For all those who love Jam Selfies
https://www.bbc.c...ts_89027

Sep 09, 2019
So all we got was a picture of M87 that resembles an orangey donut or a bagel and barely anything from Sgr*A which is so much closer to our SS. But they want to make a movie of...of what? And, it will be a little jerky, at that, so they say.
........oh but Egg, this is the peculiar usefulness of the Caltec babe. She will lend her newfound status within the fantasies of Pop-Cosmology culture to make a lot of money as a consultant to the movie makers.
says Benni

Well, they DO need a consultant to explain what that round black thing is in the middle of the orange-colored donut at M87. Castrovagina has already said that the round black thing is NOT the Black Hole. But it IS in the middle of the orange donut, so I don't understand WHY it couldn't possibly BE the Black Hole itself. It's right there in the middle. What ELSE could it be?

Hopefully, the babe from Caltec won't be one of those #MeToo, else the movie producers? could be accused of something nefarious. LOL

Sep 09, 2019
@Benni Says;
In almost all presentations of physics today we are told that gravity is caused by "curvature of space-time". This was not Einstein's view, nor ihe view of QFT. Einstein believed that gravity is a force field not unlike the electro­magnetic field.

Wikipedia says;

Gravity is most accurately described by the general theory of relativity (proposed by Albert Einstein in 1915) which describes gravity not as a force, but as a consequence of the curvature of spacetime caused by the uneven distribution of mass.

Wrong again, Benni
says hat1208

Wikipedia is still giving out the wrong impression that there is such a thing as the 'curvature of spacetime'. All of these traditional information sources such as Wiki are not up-to-date regarding the fact that 'spacetime' was merely a MATH construct and has no actuality except as the brainchild of Einstein's prof, Hermann Minkowski. Read my past comments on the subject to better educate yourself.

Sep 09, 2019
Hopefully, the babe from Caltec won't be one of those #MeToo, else the movie producers? could be accused of something nefarious. LOL


Another misogynist tosspot who can't spell!

Sep 09, 2019
Wikipedia is still giving out the wrong impression that there is such a thing as the 'curvature of spacetime'. All of these traditional information sources such as Wiki are not up-to-date regarding the fact that 'spacetime' was merely a MATH construct and has no actuality except as the brainchild of Einstein's prof, Hermann Minkowski. Read my past comments on the subject to better educate yourself.


Trivially false. And why the hell would anybody read the comments of a scientifically illiterate fruitloop, who thinks he is an alien lizard?

Sep 09, 2019
Wikipedia is still giving out the wrong impression that there is such a thing as the 'curvature of spacetime'. All of these traditional information sources such as Wiki are not up-to-date regarding the fact that 'spacetime' was merely a MATH construct and has no actuality except as the brainchild of Einstein's prof, Hermann Minkowski. Read my past comments on the subject to better educate yourself.


Trivially false. And why the hell would anybody read the comments of a scientifically illiterate fruitloop,
.........but YOU never miss a single one of his Comments. Why is it you don't follow your own advice?

Sep 09, 2019
Hopefully, the babe from Caltec won't be one of those #MeToo, else the movie producers? could be accused of something nefarious. LOL


Another misogynist tosspot who can't spell!
.....gets your attention doesn't it. Why do you fall so easily for the deliberate & obvious?

Sep 09, 2019
Hopefully, the babe from Caltec won't be one of those #MeToo, else the movie producers? could be accused of something nefarious. LOL


Another misogynist tosspot who can't spell!
.....gets your attention doesn't it. Why do you fall so easily for the deliberate & obvious?


Why would you want to get my attention, when I keep showing you up for the imbecile that you are?

Sep 09, 2019
Hopefully, the babe from Caltec won't be one of those #MeToo, else the movie producers? could be accused of something nefarious. LOL


Another misogynist tosspot who can't spell!
.....gets your attention doesn't it. Why do you fall so easily for the deliberate & obvious?
.
Why would you want to get my attention, when I keep showing you up for the imbecile that you are?
....then why do you keep giving it if you think this?

Sep 09, 2019
....then why do you keep giving it if you think this?


I enjoy showing you up to be a posing, scientifically illiterate clown. And it isn't difficult.

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