New extremely distant solar system object found during hunt for Planet X

October 2, 2018, Carnegie Institution for Science
The orbits of the new extreme dwarf planet 2015 TG387 and its fellow Inner Oort Cloud objects 2012 VP113 and Sedna as compared with the rest of the Solar System. 2015 TG387 was nicknamed 'The Goblin' by the discoverers, as its provisional designation contains TG and the object was first seen near Halloween. 2015 TG387 has a larger semi-major axis than either 2012 VP113 or Sedna, which means it travels much further from the Sun at its most distant point in its orbit, which is around 2300 AU. Credit: Roberto Molar Candanosa and Scott Sheppard, courtesy of Carnegie Institution for Science.

Carnegie's Scott Sheppard and his colleagues—Northern Arizona University's Chad Trujillo, and the University of Hawaii's David Tholen—are once again redefining our Solar System's edge. They discovered a new extremely distant object far beyond Pluto with an orbit that supports the presence of an even-farther-out, Super-Earth or larger Planet X.

The newly found object, called 2015 TG387, will be announced Tuesday by the International Astronomical Union's Minor Planet Center. A paper with the full details of the discovery has also been submitted to the Astronomical Journal.

2015 TG387 was discovered about 80 astronomical units (AU) from the Sun, a measurement defined as the distance between the Earth and Sun. For context, Pluto is around 34 AU, so 2015 TG387 is about two and a half times further away from the Sun than Pluto is right now.

The new object is on a very elongated and never comes closer to the Sun, a point called perihelion, than about 65 AU. Only 2012 VP113 and Sedna at 80 and 76 AU respectively have more-distant perihelia than 2015 TG387. Though 2015 TG387 has the third-most-distant perihelion, its orbital semi-major axis is larger than 2012 VP113 and Sedna's, meaning it travels much farther from the Sun than they do. At its furthest point, it reaches all the way out to about 2,300 AU. 2015 TG387 is one of the few known objects that never comes close enough to the Solar System's giant , like Neptune and Jupiter, to have significant gravitational interactions with them.

A comparison of 2015 TG387 at 65 AU with the Solar System's known planets. Saturn can be seen at 10 AU and Earth is, of course, at 1 AU, as the measurement is defined as the distance between the Sun and our home planet. Credit: Roberto Molar Candanosa and Scott Sheppard, courtesy of Carnegie Institution for Science.
"These so-called Inner Oort Cloud objects like 2015 TG387, 2012 VP113, and Sedna are isolated from most of the Solar System's known mass, which makes them immensely interesting," Sheppard explained. "They can be used as probes to understand what is happening at the edge of our Solar System."

The object with the most-distant orbit at perihelion, 2012 VP113, was also discovered by Sheppard and Trujillo, who announced that find in 2014. The discovery of 2012 VP113 led Sheppard and Trujillo to notice similarities of the orbits of several extremely distant Solar System objects, and they proposed the presence of an unknown planet several times larger than Earth—sometimes called Planet X or Planet 9—orbiting the Sun well beyond Pluto at hundreds of AUs.

"We think there could be thousands of small bodies like 2015 TG387 out on the Solar System's fringes, but their distance makes finding them very difficult," Tholen said. "Currently we would only detect 2015 TG387 when it is near its closest approach to the Sun. For some 99 percent of its 40,000-year orbit, it would be too faint to see."

The was discovered as part of the team's ongoing hunt for unknown dwarf planets and Planet X. It is the largest and deepest survey ever conducted for distant Solar System objects.

An artist's conception of a distant Solar System Planet X, which could be shaping the orbits of smaller extremely distant outer Solar System objects like 2015 TG387 discovered by a team of Carnegie's Scott Sheppard, Northern Arizona University's Chad Trujillo, and the University of Hawaii's David Tholen. Credit: Roberto Molar Candanosa and Scott Sheppard, courtesy of Carnegie Institution for Science.
"These distant objects are like breadcrumbs leading us to Planet X. The more of them we can find, the better we can understand the outer Solar System and the possible planet that we think is shaping their orbits—a discovery that would redefine our knowledge of the Solar System's evolution," Sheppard added.

It took the team a few years of observations to obtain a good orbit for 2015 TG387 because it moves so slowly and has such a long orbital period. They first observed 2015 TG387 in October of 2015 at the Japanese Subaru 8-meter telescope located atop Mauna Kea in Hawaii. Follow-up observations at the Magellan telescope at Carnegie's Las Campanas Observatory in Chile and the Discovery Channel Telescope in Arizona were obtained in 2015, 2016, 2017 and 2018 to determine 2015 TG387's orbit.

2015 TG387 is likely on the small end of being a dwarf planet since it has a diameter near 300 kilometers. The location in the sky where 2015 TG387 reaches perihelion is similar to 2012 VP113, Sedna, and most other known extremely distant trans-Neptunian objects, suggesting that something is pushing them into similar types of orbits.

Trujillo and University of Oklahoma's Nathan Kaib ran computer simulations for how different hypothetical Planet X orbits would affect the orbit of 2015 TG387. The simulations included a Super-Earth-mass planet at several hundred AU on an elongated orbit as proposed by Caltech's Konstantin Batygin and Michael Brown in 2016. Most of the simulations showed that not only was 2015 TG387's orbit stable for the age of the Solar System, but it was actually shepherded by Planet X's gravity, which keeps the smaller 2015 TG387 away from the . This gravitational shepherding could explain why the most-distant objects in our Solar System have similar orbits. These orbits keep them from ever approaching the proposed planet too closely, which is similar to how Pluto never gets too close to Neptune even though their orbits cross.

"What makes this result really interesting is that Planet X seems to affect 2015 TG387 the same way as all the other extremely distant Solar System objects. These simulations do not prove that there's another massive planet in our Solar System, but they are further evidence that something big could be out there" Trujillo concludes.

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rrwillsj
2 / 5 (7) Oct 02, 2018
Myself? I am not convinced that Planet X actually exists as we think of a small gas giants.

Two wild speculations just now. What if the Planet X phenomena is a failed Neptune type. Kicked out of the early Solar System, possibly by Saturn or Uranus? Instead of Jupiter kicking it completely out of the system? Saturn could have shoved it out to the very edge but not forcibly enough to eject from our system?

The even crazier imagining? That instead of what we would recognize as a planet? A body too small to see with our present technology. Yet very massive consisting of heavier metals (i.e. iron and higher elements) maybe even exotic elements. A remnant from an ancient hyper-nova for instance.

That passed close enough to our System to collide with Neptune. Tough enough to survive the wreck but giving up enough cthomic momentum to result in a wobbly orbit past Pluto?
SkyLight
2.1 / 5 (9) Oct 02, 2018
Uh-huh. Or maybe it's a super-massive Space Gibbon. Having a super-long chthonic wobbly moment. In thpathe. Where nobody can hear you thqueam.
Surveillance_Egg_Unit
2 / 5 (8) Oct 02, 2018
The "Goblin"? What an ignoble appellation to give this distant body. There may be an institution where titles, names, appellations are decided upon - depending on who draws the shorter stick.
Surveillance_Egg_Unit
1.9 / 5 (8) Oct 02, 2018
Uh-huh. Or maybe it's a super-massive Space Gibbon. Having a super-long chthonic wobbly moment. In thpathe. Where nobody can hear you thqueam.
says SpookyOtto's puppy

Why don't you and rrwiliiejoe get together for some beers and fried chicken at the bus station of your choice. Just let me know so that I can be there with my movie camera, while disguised as Justin Trudeau.
zeevk
2.8 / 5 (6) Oct 02, 2018
300kilometers across and a 1% chance of seeing this thing on an orbit that brings it , coincidentally, to a visible place where it is about as close to earth (the sun) as it's going to get on its orbit.

there are thus likely many countless objects smaller than this even closer, and probably counttless objects far bigger than 300k across that are far more distant.

i don't know about a giant gas planet, but it could turn out there's far far far more reasonably sized planetismalls under 1000k across than anyone could every have thought. possibly tens of millions of them.
yaridanjo
1.4 / 5 (9) Oct 03, 2018
Note that the orbital period of 2015 TG387 is in an 8:1 orbital resonance with Vulcan:

40000/4969 = 8.05 [closer to am integer value. -Barry W.]

That suggests it may be in a 8:1 orbital resonance with Vulcan.

If so, future refinements of its orbit may approach 39792 years.

http://barry.warm...led.html
VULCAN REVEALED
http://barry.warm...led.html#5
VULCAN'S ORBITAL PARAMETERS (VIA BLAVATSKY'S THEOSOPHY & ASTRONOMER FORBES)

yaridanjo
1 / 5 (3) Oct 03, 2018
Astronomer Forbes' 5000 year value (1880) is 'right on' an interger, a 8:1 orbital resonance:
40,000/5,000 = 8.000
torbjorn_b_g_larsson
3.7 / 5 (3) Oct 04, 2018
Note that the orbital period of 2015 TG387 is in an 8:1 orbital resonance with Vulcan:


There is a reason why astronomers prefer "Planet Nine" over historically suggested names. For instance Vulcan, which was a later rejected planet orbiting inside Mercury. (And which gravitationally influence would not be influential at the distance of the Kuiper Belt even.)

https://en.wikipe..._planet)
rrwillsj
1 / 5 (3) Oct 04, 2018
oh, segue! You know the bus companies all have restraining orders against you , with or without a camera. Anywhere near their restrooms.

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