France 'corrects' White House video on climate pact facts

June 3, 2017
French President Emmanuel Macron has invited American scientists, businesspeople and citizens who are frustrated by the White House's stance on climate change to "come and work here with us" on finding a solution to the crisis

In an unusual move, France's foreign ministry on Friday issued a pointed fact-check of Donald Trump's claims about the UN's Paris climate agreement.

The ministry issued a tweet with an embedded link to a that amounted to a wry but very public rebuttal of Trump's assertions.

On Thursday, the White House had tweeted, "The Paris Accord is a bad deal for Americans," and linked to a video which said the agreement "undermines" US competitiveness and jobs, was "badly negotiated" by former president Barack Obama and "accomplishes little."

In its response, the foreign ministry tweeted, "We've seen the @WhiteHouse video about the #ParisAccord. We disagree—so we've changed it."

Its own video uses the same format—background, font, images and music—as the White House version but adds facts to debunk the White House claims.

It refers, for example, to major companies such as Exxonmobil and Microsoft which "disagree" that the accord will "undermine" US jobs, and quotes the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) on the urgent need to fight carbon emissions.


The tweet includes a now-popular hashtag "make our planet great again"—a cheeky adaptation of the nationalist slogan used by Trump on his election campaign trail.

The video is also notable for being in English. France is famous for championing the use of the French language, and its leaders are always under pressure to speak only in French, even if they are fluent in English, when they are in the public arena.

But newly-elected president Emmanuel Macron, a 39-year-old former banker, has made a point of speaking in English, apparently seeking to make direct contact with a wider audience.

On Thursday, he released a video in English as well as French in which he criticised Trump for pulling out of the Paris accord and coined the "Make our planet great again" slogan.

He also invited American scientists, businesspeople and citizens who are frustrated by the White House's stance to "come and work here with us" on finding a solution to the climate crisis.

"They will find in France a second homeland," Macron said.

His remarks were retweeted more than 140,000 times and "liked" by more than a quarter of a million users, according to Twitter figures as of Friday afternoon.

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rderkis
2.3 / 5 (6) Jun 03, 2017
It seems President Trump has done more for climate change than anyone else in history. He has united the world and big business in a way no one else has. Gosh, he is caggy and knew just how to do it. Reminds me of Cassius Clay, by making everyone hate him he brought boxing into a new golden age. :-)
I guess in this case the end did justify the means.
antialias_physorg
4.6 / 5 (10) Jun 03, 2017
Macron has some balls (and a sense of humor).
Also: countering rethoric with fact checks? What a novel idea. Hope it catches on.
rderkis
1.6 / 5 (7) Jun 03, 2017
And it will be just like Cassius Clay we all hated him in the beginning but all loved him in the end!
antialias_physorg
4.1 / 5 (9) Jun 03, 2017
And it will be just like Cassius Clay

Guess what - we all hated Charles Manson in the beginning and we still hate him now. People tend to stay the way they are a lot more than change (especially old guys...when is the last time you saw a 70 year old turn his life around? I'm mean: you already lauded Trump for being a (bad) liar - how low can you go?)

Lemme also clue you in to something: You're on a science site. Science isn't about 'we will' but about 'we do'.
Coming in with a "we will" rethoric, here of all places, is beyond ridiculous.
rderkis
1.6 / 5 (7) Jun 03, 2017
antialias_physorg, I am sorry if I misunderstand your intent. But for someone that keeps telling us how smart they are, why do you keep replying to my comments, antialias_physorg? I have told you a dozen times you are on my ignore/block list because you are a troll, antialias_physorg, I have no idea what you're writing and could care less. Please try to be smart enough to understand the words "Ignore, Block, troll".
antialias_physorg
3.6 / 5 (9) Jun 03, 2017
why do you keep replying to my comments, antialias_physorg?

Because occasionally I like kicking the intellectually defenseless - especially when they have a high opionon of themselves. It's fun and it's so easy because they keep handingme the setups on a silver platter. How can you *not* knock their inane compents back at 'em?

I have told you a dozen times you are on my ignore/block list

Good for you. So are you on mine. But occasionally I'm bored and you're just such an easy target.

Though, in all seriousness: How does it feel to have given your vote to a russian spy for president? That must take some real mind-bending level of reality denial to square that with yourself.
EmceeSquared
4.2 / 5 (10) Jun 03, 2017
rderkis:
It seems


Er, the name is "Muhammad Ali". He made everybody love him by being the best boxer in history, along with one of the most engaging personalities of his time.

He did make some people hate him when he refused to fight in Vietnam, saying "I got no quarrel with them Vietcong." Of course, those people were totally wrong, and Ali was totally right, in rejecting that civil war. It cost him his champion standing. Which made a lot of people who admire integrity love him.

Meanwhile, your treasonous president could bring the world together even more by resigning. Wouldn't you be proud of him for that?
aksdad
1.7 / 5 (6) Jun 04, 2017
Yes, thank you France's foreign ministry. We'll, uh, ponder that. We didn't realize you were the real experts on economics. That explains why your unemployment rate is 9.6% and ours is only 4.5%. I guess a bunch of us are invited to come over and work with you now but at what jobs? Huh, maybe President Trump is right to keep us out of deals that force us to pay a bunch of money for fairy tale problems and shackle our energy production to make us less efficient and less competitive so we won't get to enjoy the benefits of European-style economies, like the unemployment.

https://www.stati...untries/
Bart_A
1 / 5 (6) Jun 04, 2017
I see that Macron has quoted MIT, the same place where Gruber works and infamously stated that Obamacare passed only because of the "stupidity of the American voter", and lauded obfuscation by saying "Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage."

Doesn't sound like good science to me.

Also, the tag #MakeThePlanetGreatAgain implies that, after centuries of progress and scientific development, the Planet is not good? Can anyone tell me how? What do they want to bring it back to? The Middle Ages?

rderkis
1 / 5 (5) Jun 04, 2017


What do they want to bring it back to? The Middle Ages?


I am 70 and would like to take the plant back to mid 50s. There was lots of pheasants and other game to hunt. Lake Erie was vary clear with a lot more fish.
When I drove on the roads in the evening and night, I knew the earth was healthy because you had to clean the bugs off the windshield every hour or so.

Don't get me wrong I love our technology and would never give it up.
Plus I know in a few more years with fusion the Earth will return to what it was.
EmceeSquared
4.1 / 5 (9) Jun 04, 2017
aksdad:
Yes, thank


That 4.5% unemployment is due to Obama's administration. The Bush Jr adminstration (that you voted for twice) brought us to over 10% unemployment. Reagan/Bush (who you probably voted for 3x) brought it even higher.

Trump is on track to exceed all of those depths of unemployment.
bschott
1 / 5 (2) Jun 05, 2017

Trump is on track to exceed all of those depths of unemployment.

The unemployment rate has dropped every month he has been president, he's actually on track to make it to 0% by the end of a four year term if the trend holds....but why let the actual numbers get in the way of your opinion?

https://data.bls....14000000
rderkis
2.3 / 5 (3) Jun 05, 2017
why let the actual numbers get in the way of your opinion?


Because they consider themselves scientists. At least blind scientists that are blinded by hate and of the opinion they can't be wrong.
TheGhostofOtto1923
5 / 5 (2) Jun 05, 2017
Because occasionally I like kicking the intellectually defenseless - especially when they have a high opionon of themselves. It's fun and it's so easy
snicker
because they keep handingme the setups on a silver platter. How can you *not* knock their inane compents back at 'em?
Ahaahaaa
Though, in all seriousness: How does it feel to have given your vote to a russian spy for president?
Ahheeheeeee kaf kaf fart
That must take some real mind-bending level of reality denial to square that with yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKTlVIKd6hw&t=27s

oh stop
EmceeSquared
3.7 / 5 (3) Jun 05, 2017
bschott:
The unemployment rate


The unemployment rate has dropped since Obama actually did quite a lot immediately in January 2009. The 2017 monthly drops are on the same trend line with Obama's, because Obama's policies are still in effect. Lazy/blowhard Trump hasn't actually done anything (even with a Republican Congress), but his his leadership vacuum is filled with rhetoric that's bad for business. Already the May 2017 job growth was only 3/4 of projected. Prioritizing imaginary coal jobs at the expense of real jobs in sustainable energy will kill us.

Look, you voted for Republicans who have killed the US economy every time: Reagan/Bush, Bush/Quayle, Bush/Cheney. It's time you realized you don't know anything about economics, other than hijacking growth Democrats manage to lead the country through.
bschott
1 / 5 (2) Jun 06, 2017
Look, you voted for Republicans who have killed the US economy every time: Reagan/Bush, Bush/Quayle, Bush/Cheney. It's time you realized you don't know anything about economics, other than hijacking growth Democrats manage to lead the country through

I'm Canadian, and therefore didn't have to flip a coin.
The unemployment rate has dropped since Obama actually did quite a lot immediately in January 2009.

What happened in 2008 on his watch again? Of course the unemployment rate has dropped since then.
May 2017 job growth was only 3/4 of projected

That would still indicate a trend of less unemployment.
Trump is on track to exceed all of those depths of unemployment.

None of your handwavy backpedalling deals with this completely absurd remark based on the observed trends.

How about, "oops, I may have mispoke about that" instead of trying to justify a blatantly flawed analysis?
rderkis
1 / 5 (1) Jun 06, 2017
I'm Canadian, and therefore didn't have to flip a coin.


While I have nothing but respect for Canada and their people. Plus I like your ideas.
GET YOUR NOSE OUT OF OUR ELECTION PROCESS!
What's the difference between you trying to influence our election and Russia trying to influence it?
EmceeSquared
1 / 5 (1) Jun 06, 2017
bschott:
I'm Canadian


Oh, Canadian. Proving that positive stereotypes are mistaken generalizations too.

But thanks for proving that you don't know anything about government either. None of those elections were "coin flips" between equivalent candidates.

Defining you more is your question about 2008 Obama. 2001-2008 was Bush/Cheney's watch. They destroyed the global and US economies. 2009-2016 was Obama's watch, during which he led the US out of the Great Recession that Conservatives caused.

Since you can't even get that right, just shut up already. You're showing your ass every time you post.

I meant it when I said Trump is on track to blast unemployment back up, as I explained. Of course you can't process that, because you're a troll. You aren't interested in anything but your own preconceptions and conflict over them.

Just shut up already.
bschott
1 / 5 (1) Jun 06, 2017
blah blah blah....Just shut up already.

Exactly how someone who says something stupid and can't justify it must respond to a detractor after providing a blatantly biased and factually unfounded remark that has no statistical support whatsoever. Temper temper....
You're showing your ass every time you post.

You're showing you are an ass every time you post.
GET YOUR NOSE OUT OF OUR ELECTION PROCESS!

If your corporate media didn't constantly bombard everyone with your farce of a political system, here say and innuendo ...and above all, the pointless drama about shit like Melania not holding Donalds hand I could ignore comments about it...but for the record I have never been involved in your election process...and I doubt Russia has either.

But if they have....thank them for your continued decrease in unemployment.
EmceeSquared
3 / 5 (2) Jun 06, 2017
bschott:
Exactly how


No, I'm showing that *you're* an ass. Your inability to understand facts I post, like May's big drop in job growth, that defy your committed ignorance is *your* ass showing.

My advice to you to just shut up is actually a favor to you. But since you're a committed troll, you'll keep posting ignorance, stupidity and your own discredits.
bschott
not rated yet Jun 06, 2017
Your inability to understand facts I post,

You didn't post a single fact dipshit, you posted your opinion...not supported by facts.
, like May's big drop in job growth,

You don't seem to fathom that 75% (3/4) GROWTH still happened. That a projection of GROWTH is off by 25% in no way shows decline.
you'll keep posting ignorance, stupidity and your own discredits.

Pot-Kettle, you haven't said one accurate thing in this thread....you just got called out for saying what you believe the future holds and the only thing you can cling to is GROWTH that was 25% less than projected to support your crystal ball take on the future....when GROWTH doesn't support your take.
Welcome to reality idiot, give it a taste and a swallow...your diet is obviously lacking.
Lastly...
You're showing you are an ass every time you post.

Is correct, and grammatically as well...what did you think you were correcting with *your* little asterisk bracket?
EmceeSquared
3 / 5 (2) Jun 06, 2017
bschott:
You didn't

You're not just a fool, you're a damn fool. Here you are referring to the *fact* I posted at you that May 2017 growth was only 3/4 of expected, while claiming I didn't post a single fact. Goddamn that's stupid.

Job growth needs to exceed population growth to be actual growth, among other demands on the labor force. Missing unambitious projections by 1/4 is a significant decline. In the 12 previous months the average monthly gain was 181,000, so the projections were reasonable. Your treasonous president missed them by a big chunk. While he was your treasonous candidate he attacked Obama's growth numbers that beat his by quite a lot now that he's actually accountable for them.

But you'll ignore that fact, like the others. Because you're nothing but a troll.

Goodbye.
bschott
1 / 5 (1) Jun 06, 2017
Emceehammer:

Growth is the opposite of decline. Less growth is still growth and therefore not an indication of decline. You said:
Trump is on track to exceed all of those depths of unemployment.

Without anything indicating this is actually a possibility , and now you are calling me a fool for pointing out you stated your opinion as fact. You stated less growth was than projected was an indication of decline...you are delusional.

Goodbye
howhot3
1 / 5 (1) Jun 06, 2017
President Trump has done more for climate change than anyone else in history

LOL I have to repeat LOL... Funny someone else said the exact same thing on another thread. So do trolls post go from a script? Your kind of odd @rderkis.. So how many aliases do you go by? Does you mother tuck you in for bed? So what's the weather in Moscow these days?

howhot3
1 / 5 (1) Jun 06, 2017
President Trump has done more for climate change than anyone else in history

You know, you KGOP goons are wrong on this. No one cares about Trump because he's an idiot. The whole world is just moving along without him, and they just ignore his tweets. So @rderkis.. Loser.

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