Trump's budget would cut NASA asteroid mission, earth science

March 16, 2017
President Donald Trump's proposed budget plans to keep building the Orion deep space capsule, pictured launching from Cape Canaveral, Florida in 2014

Under US President Donald Trump's proposed budget, NASA's funding would stay largely intact but the space agency would abandon plans to lasso an asteroid, along with four Earth and climate missions.

The 2018 —which must be approved by Congress—asks for $19.1 billion for NASA, a 0.8 percent decrease from 2017, allowing the the space agency to emerge unscathed compared to the deep cuts laid out for other federal science and environmental agencies.

The proposal "focuses the nation's efforts on rather than Earth-centric research," it said.

Plans to keep building the Orion deep space capsule and what will be the world's most powerful rocket, known as the Space Launch System (SLS), remain intact, and are designated to receive $3.7 billion.

On the chopping block are four Earth science missions, saving around $102 million.

These include shutting off the cameras on a climate observatory called DSCOVR that launched in 2015—and was initially a project of former vice president Al Gore—and three other satellites to track global warming and ocean health, and have not yet launched.

The proposed budget also axes a multi-billion plan championed by former president Barack Obama to lasso an asteroid and move it into orbit around the Moon for study in the 2020s.

NASA's $115 million Office of Education is "duplicative" and would be eliminated, "resulting in a more focused education effort through NASA's Science Mission Directorate," said the .

The US space agency would get $1.9 billion for planetary science, including a mission to fly by Jupiter's icy ocean moon Europa and a Mars rover that would launch in 2020.

"This is a positive budget overall for NASA," said acting administrator of the US , Robert Lightfoot.

"As with any budget, we have greater aspirations than we have means, but this blueprint provides us with considerable resources to carry out our mission, and I know we will make this nation proud."

Experts said the budget proposal released Thursday acts as a starting point. A more comprehensive budget plan is still in the works and should be ready in the coming months.

The figures must be debated in the House and Senate and sent back to the president for approval.

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rderkis
2 / 5 (4) Mar 16, 2017
Like my son told me. President Trump is following logical priorities.
First get the country and our budget back on track.
Then make our science programs the best in the world.
But one step at a time.
BubbaNicholson
1.8 / 5 (5) Mar 17, 2017
Politicians shouldn't plan space missions anyway. In their hands, NASA has dithered for a generation. People with vision should plan space missions and the same people should finance those missions.
Playing around with asteroids will give us interstellar travel because we will gather the mostly mapping knowledge to allow us to mine the kinetic energy of the asteroid belt to that purpose.
rderkis
1 / 5 (3) Mar 17, 2017
Personally, I think we are crazy to invest any money in space right now. We should put that money in to 3 prime areas that will change the world, within 10 years..
1. Genetic Research (Stem cells, Crispr/Cas9)
2.Quantum Computers (For Simulations)
3.Fusion
In 10 years time, using those 3 technologies, we will be so much more advanced, true interstellar travel will be achievable.
Zzzzzzzz
3.5 / 5 (8) Mar 17, 2017
Why do we continue with the charade that Trump is sane? It is patently obvious to even the most casual observer that Trump is psychotic. Not to mention an unrepentant confessed felony sexual predator. This is not a Monarchy. We don't have to tolerate psychos in our White House. Arrest, try, convict, and execute the traitor. Shouldn't take more than 1/2 hour.
rderkis
2.1 / 5 (7) Mar 17, 2017
Why do we continue with the charade that Trump is sane? It is patently obvious to even the most casual observer that Trump is psychotic. Not to mention an unrepentant confessed felony sexual predator. This is not a Monarchy. We don't have to tolerate psychos in our White House. Arrest, try, convict, and execute the traitor. Shouldn't take more than 1/2 hour.


If those statements aren't criminal slander in it's worse form what is? Zzzz should be put in prison, not for his opinions but for slander. I am now putting him on my ignore list because he contributed nothing to this conversation.
PS And I do ignore his posts and don't peek at them.
gkam
2 / 5 (8) Mar 17, 2017
Trump is not insane, he is an incomplete person. No empathy, no knowledge of how things work, he seems to be one whose entire life has been bought from those who know how the think, operate, and do the nasty stuff for him.

He has the substance and depth and qualities of aluminized mylar.

Libel?

Slander?

Let me at him!
Captain Stumpy
4.2 / 5 (5) Mar 17, 2017
If those statements aren't criminal slander in it's worse form what is?
@rderkis
1- there is a difference between libel and slander - please learn what it is

2- it's not libel if there can be justification for the argument

2a- see also: defamation laws (and read the applicable jurisdiction)

3- you don't know if Zzz is even american

but that leads to this important point:
4- first amendment guarantee's free speech and the right to one's opinion

why would you care so much? if anyone needs to care it should be trump - and i don't see his tritter feed here on PO because he isn't concerned with what everyone says about him
(if he was, he would anhero)

last thing: it is telling when someone will ignore reality and facts simply because their political differences and ideologies
geokstr
1 / 5 (3) Mar 17, 2017
Why do we continue with the charade that Trump is sane? It is patently obvious to even the most casual observer that Trump is psychotic. Not to mention an unrepentant confessed felony sexual predator. This is not a Monarchy. We don't have to tolerate psychos in our White House. Arrest, try, convict, and execute the traitor. Shouldn't take more than 1/2 hour.


You're lucky the media picked Trump by giving him a billion dollars in free PR on the theory that the most corrupt Democrat ever nominated would make easy work of him. You should be facing Pres Cruz right now, who's a brilliant Constitutional expert, has no skeletons in his closet, and doesn't make clownish mistakes like Trump. Cruz would have hit the ground running with a well-thought out plan of attack against the monstrosity the government has become, before you and all your Marxist comrades, fellow travelers and useful idiots in the media knew what hit you.
geokstr
1 / 5 (6) Mar 17, 2017
3- you don't know if Zzz is even american.
ZZZZZZ..."WE don't have to tolerate psychos in OUR White House."


Read for comprehension much?

He's either another typical leftling American who just hates America, like Obama, or he's one of those loony "citizens of the world" who thinks OUR White House somehow belongs to all of Gaia.

And by the way, Stumps, what's a "tritter" and an "anhero".
Captain Stumpy
4.3 / 5 (6) Mar 18, 2017
Read for comprehension much?
@geokstr
I didn't even bother to read Zzz's post because there wasn't a real need to

why?

american's still have the right to free speech, last time i checked

then there is the fact that there are no federal criminal defamation or insult laws in the US

now enter into the jurisdiction issue - NY and DC are the jurisdiction as the recipient (trump), however there is also the argument of internet, forum location, person making the claims, etc... so which jurisdiction applies?

and considering the law - he can only prove that the claim was made
https://www.law.c...famation

no false claim was made, as it's clearly opinion and based upon interpretations of evidence in the news (and supporting claims in the news)

no negligence (fault)

no damage either (and lots of people are saying similar things, or worse)

so there is no case regardless of location, citizenship or anything else
Captain Stumpy
4.2 / 5 (5) Mar 18, 2017
@geokstr cont'd
And by the way, Stumps, what's a "tritter" and an "anhero".
tritter is a typo due to my large fingers and because i didn't proofread it

anhero is an internet term that you can look up - it's popular at places like reddit, 4-chan and can be found in urban dictionaries, though if you think about it, it's clear
He's either another typical leftling American who just hates America, like Obama, or he's one of those loony "citizens of the world" who thinks OUR White House somehow belongs to all of Gaia
what about the middle ground who simply hates all politics?

i mean, there are plenty of people who like common sense, hate politics, love science and consider trump and idiot, so where do they lie in your labeling system?

are they bad simply because they want something more than ignorance and stupidity?
or because they follow science?

gkam
1 / 5 (5) Mar 18, 2017
It is becoming clear we probably have to do something about Trump to save American science and probably the Earth.

With his increasing irrationality he is making himself eligible for a 25th Amendment Solution. But then, we will be in the hands of real politicians with the same hateful agenda.

The same will happen in impeachment.

The only way to save ourselves is to follow the lead of Austria, and when a suspicious election gives strange indications, they had a Do-Over.

Yeah, a few months ago. I guess you missed it, because it was not covered very well. But we can do it here to save America.

The Great National Re-Vote!

Get your pitchfolk, grab your torch, go get your neighbors, and organize to save ourselves.

- (Buchanan ref.)
Captain Stumpy
4 / 5 (4) Mar 18, 2017
@STOLEN VALOR LIAR-kam
But we can do it here to save America.

The Great National Re-Vote!
1- the 25th amendment would place the VP into POTUS and allows for the nomination of a VP (by the former VP now POTUS) with confirmation by congress
... not an election for the POTUS, or even the VP

2- this only assumes that section 4 in invoked or that impeachment removes trump from office - and as everyone who remembers billy will remember, impeachment doesn't mean removal from office

3- the people can call for a special election but the probability of that happening when we have a clearly spelled out constitution that covers the issue is nill

you really could have looked that one up before you posted, since it's obvious you don't know what it says and you're clearly inexperienced

gkam
1 / 5 (5) Mar 18, 2017
Perhaps you should actually read what I posted before you take aim and shoot yourself in the foot. It is especially funny because much of the time the foot is in your mouth.

We can all play your little game of hate and attack, but this is a science site, not Twitter for Malcontents.

Ever do any work for or with NASA? Interesting group.
Captain Stumpy
3.7 / 5 (3) Mar 18, 2017
@STOLEN VALOR LIAR-kam
Perhaps you should actually read what I posted
i did, and it doesn't make sense becuase you make an idiotic reference to AUS assuming, like the moron trolling sniper you are, that we will somehow follow in their footsteps... hell, i even quoted you, or did you miss that part?
Oh right - you're illiterate. or burnt. whatever
Ever do any work for or with NASA? Interesting group
you know that i have because you've see where i worked as a subcontractor at DDMS
you've even seen that here on PO more than once

but i don't expect you to actually remember reality because you can't even comprehend basic engineering or environmental stuff and you claim experience and expertise in that area

again, per your own request....

feel free to continue this - i have more important stuff to do, so i'll just abide by your own request for each post you make

thanks
gkam
1 / 5 (5) Mar 18, 2017
Well gosh, my studies and reports for NASA are included in the catalog I sent you.

Where are your references?

And having worked in the Aerospace field, I am concerned with the ignorance of science and casual treatment we get from the Trumpistas. Most of them are in the Bible Belt with you.
Captain Stumpy
3.7 / 5 (3) Mar 18, 2017
@STOLEN VALOR LIAR-kam
Where are your references?
are you blind or just stupid?
http://s1027.phot...p;page=1

PW+VALIDATE
And having worked in the Aerospace field,
you were a radio repairman
and that is in your DD214

who cares what you are concerned with in the aerospace field because you're inept with the aerospace field!

hell, you can't even tell me the MIL-SPEC for aircraft parts, let alone for radio anything, as Ira already proved

so why bring that up?
why distract with an irrelevant NASA paper that i already proved doesn't say what even YOU think it says? ( https://medicalxp...ain.html )

STOP SPREADING LIES

per your own request...
gkam
1 / 5 (5) Mar 18, 2017
Well, gosh, I think working with/for Test Pilot School, Special Projects, and NASA at the Air Force Flight Test Center on experimental aircraft and prototypes qualifies me as working in Aerospace. The real name of Test Pilot School was Aerospace Pilot School at the time.

Our NF-104s were used to train the Apollo astronauts, and we had other pilots with astronaut wings from X-15 flights of sufficient altitude. Working the flightline there was like living in a movie, with everything but background music.

You saw the front page of the newspaper of the Air force Flight Test Center with my picture on it. Show me your proof.
Captain Stumpy
5 / 5 (3) Mar 18, 2017
@STOLEN VALOR LIAR-kam
Well, gosh, I think working with/for blah blah blah qualifies me as working in Aerospace
watching planes land or take off and working on their radio's qualifies you?

well, i not only have far, far more experience in that area, but i also worked on actual aircraft parts and assemblies for Lockheed, Boeing and every other aircraft manufacturer (except chinese and russians)... so that means i have the experience far in excess of you then, right?

Plus, i also worked the lake bed in CA at Edwards, so your "experience" doesn't impress me at all, especially considering i was actually on a space shuttle (Columbia)

so your "experience" is trumped by actual real life experience and knowledge

now get back to the topic because absolutely none of your braggadocio bullsh*t is relevant to your claims about the 25th amendment anyway, because no amendment is concerned about your Edwards experience

so quit posting OT bullsh*t
gkam
1 / 5 (5) Mar 18, 2017
Yeah, and you got more votes than Hillary, and you invented the Shuttle, and all the other stuff for which you have NO PROOF.

If you were so valuable, where is your proof?

WHERE?

You saw the Avionics Officer label me as the "perfect airman"and the insistence of the Commander that I should be promoted ASAP. Were you the Best Hose Handler?

You are going to keep on losing as long as you continue to hide from us. If you come out, we can get you some help.
Captain Stumpy
3.7 / 5 (3) Mar 18, 2017
@STOLEN VALOR THE ILLITERATE LIAR-kam
If you were so valuable, where is your proof?
see above links

just because YOU can't read doesn't mean no one else can read... and what does your delusional argument have to do with the 25th amendment?
ah.. isn't that off topic distraction from the facts?

No one cares about your experience on Edwards... mostly because there are people like me who have far, far, far more experience than you, and proved it already

if you can't use facts, references or actually be on topic, then it's sniping off topic trolling

that means, by definition, that you're the one "losing" any conversation because you can't prove anything about the topic, let alone most of anything else you say

so... per your own request to clean up the site...
gkam
1 / 5 (5) Mar 18, 2017
" far, far, far more experience than you, and proved it already"
----------------------------------
Yes, . . and you know more about ISIS than the generals.

Positively Trumpian.

Prove it, do not just say you did.

But this issue is about what your buddy Trump is doing to America. You folk in the "heartland" inflicted him on us.
Captain Stumpy
3.7 / 5 (3) Mar 18, 2017
@STOLEN VALOR LIAR-kam
Yes, . . and you know more about ISIS than the generals
ISIS isn't the topic, so that is trolling, baiting and stupidity

how is that related to your epic failure to look up the 25th amendment?
oh right... only you are allowed to go off topic and digress into ad hominem attacks without basis in fact
Prove it
just because you're inept and illiterate doesn't mean everyone else is f*cking stupid like you
But this issue is about what your buddy Trump is doing to America
i didn't vote for the idiot
and just FYI - my state is typically demoncrat, so if they voted for the idiot trump that says a lot about the idiot demoncrat candidate, doesn't it?

but logic isn't your strong suit, so i don't expect you to actually be aware of niggling little factoids like that one

so you can't actually prove anything and resort to attacks and narcissistic promotion... wait. that sounds familiar... so, you really are trump?

per your request...
gkam
1 / 5 (5) Mar 18, 2017
Yup, you live in a Red State now. Trumpistan.

When he bans schools other than military academies you will be ecstatic, but the Decent Folk will understand what it means for American civilization.

We need to support R&D, and not go the way of the American Taliban, the Republicans.
rderkis
5 / 5 (1) Mar 19, 2017
You should be facing Pres Cruz right now,


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