Spain will get giant telescope if Hawaii doesn't, group says

An agreement has been reached for a giant telescope to be built in Spain's Canary Islands if it cannot be put atop a Hawaii mountain.

Telescope builder TMT International Observatory says Hawaii's Mauna Kea remains the preferred location for the $1.4 billion Thirty Meter Telescope.

But some Native Hawaiians are fighting to keep the telescope off a mountain they consider sacred.

Hawaii's Supreme Court invalidated the project's construction permit, forcing long-running hearings for a new one. It's unclear when a decision will be made.

The nonprofit TMT on Wednesday said the Canary Islands agreement was a milestone for the embattled project.

It wants to start construction next year.

The Spanish agency overseeing Canary Islands observatories says the telescope would be good for Spain and the world's astronomy community.


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Mar 30, 2017
The Hawaiians are crazy. We are talking big money, no pollution, plus hi tech for the school children nearby.
There is no downside..

Mar 30, 2017
I wish President Trump would step in and say "We are building it here!"

Mar 31, 2017
One of the reasons why they want it in Hawaii is so the astronomers get to take regular paid vacations to Hawaii to use the telescopes in their research. Another is it's a great way for foreign astronomers to get work permits in the USA using University connections.

The Canary Islands is as good as Hawaii as a location. It too features a high mountain far from the mainland, and is also a premier location for many telescopes. Unfortunately, Europe's much tighter immigration laws make it far less useful to many who wanted Hawaii to be the location.

Mar 31, 2017
astronomers get to take regular paid vacations to Hawaii


You are obviously not a real scientist. Real scientists working on important science don't want to take a vacation. Their work is their vacation. They have trouble making time for even their families, they get so involved.

Mar 31, 2017
Europe's much tighter immigration laws

Erm...whut? If you're a scientist you will have absolutely no problem working in the EU (or immigrating) - no matter where you're from.

Mar 31, 2017
The Spanish must be hoping that the Hawaiian superstition and folly will prevail.

Mar 31, 2017
superstition and folly

Superstition and folly? Pretty strong judgement of other peoples beliefs considering we know less than 2% of the universe.

Mar 31, 2017
superstition and folly

Superstition and folly? Pretty strong judgement of other peoples beliefs considering we know less that 2% of the universe.

Mar 31, 2017
superstition and folly

Superstition and folly? Pretty strong judgement of other peoples beliefs considering we know less that 2% of the universe.

I think this quote will be useful against the Church of Global Warming!.. Thanks!

Mar 31, 2017
I think this quote will be useful against the Church of Global Warming!!


Once again sorry to disappoint you, but there is no Church of Global Warming!
Are you making this stuff up in your head as you go along?
BTW-- I would bet you a million dollars you were one of the people making fun of Al Gore when he presented his film on global warming. I can just hear your cruel jokes about him back then, even now.

Mar 31, 2017
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Apr 01, 2017
"No! Don't give us the money! We want everyone to be poor because of our non-rational religious beliefs!"

Idiots. And stubborn ones too, just like the anti-nuke and climate denier and EU idiots we see all over this site.

Apr 01, 2017
And stubborn ones too, just like the anti-nuke and climate denier and EU idiots we see all over this site.


How do keep such an open and objective mind in this day of closed minded people who are absolutely sure ,with rigorous fever, they are absolutely right about everything?

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