Putin says climate change not caused by emissions

March 30, 2017
Russian President Vladimir Putin and Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu visit an ice cavern in the remote Arctic archipelago of Franz Josef Land

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday said climate change was unstoppable and not caused by human activity and urged countries to adapt to global warming.

One day after he visited the Franz Josef Land in the Arctic, Putin claimed that icebergs had been melting for decades and suggested that global was not mankind's fault.

"The warming, it had already started by the 1930s," Putin said in comments broadcast from an Arctic forum held in the northern Russian city of Arkhangelsk.

"That's when there were no such anthropological factors, such emissions, and the warming had already started."

The Kremlin strongman added: "The issue is not stopping it... because that's impossible, since it could be tied to some global cycles on Earth or even of planetary significance. The issue is to somehow adapt to it."

Putin supported his argument by saying that an Austrian explorer who had a "photographic memory" visited the Franz Josef Land archipelago "in the 1930s."

Twenty years later the explorer was shown photographs from another expedition there "by the future king of Italy" and concluded that "there were fewer icebergs there," Putin said.

It wasn't immediately clear which explorers Putin was referring to and Italy did not have a king in the 1950s.

Austrian explorer Julius von Payer discovered and mapped the archipelago during a 1872-1874 expedition.

The only Italian expedition to the area was organised in 1899 by Prince Luigi Amedeo, who was also an explorer.

The archipelago was declared Soviet territory in 1926.

Putin had previously hailed for exposing natural resources and transport routes which had long been too expensive to exploit.

He had also once speculated that warming by "two or three degrees" could be a good thing for Russians who would no longer need fur coats.

On Thursday, while his Finnish counterpart Sauli Niinisto called a "serious threat" for the Arctic, Putin said that it brings "more propitious conditions for using this region for economic ends."

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Yohaku
3.7 / 5 (6) Mar 30, 2017
Remember where these people live. Global warming is probably seen as a good thing.
gkam
3 / 5 (8) Mar 30, 2017
Well, . . I trust Pootie to say and do what is best for us Americans, . . . don't you?
Zzzzzzzz
5 / 5 (9) Mar 30, 2017
Putin - a real scientific genius - perhaps only eclipsed by his puppet, Donald Trump

Yohaku - think about the inuit. Living in colder climates doesn't automatically translate into stupidity
Benni
1 / 5 (3) Mar 30, 2017
We must not for the sake of the planet distrust anything Communists say.
barakn
5 / 5 (9) Mar 30, 2017
Russia isn't communist, but you should certainly mistrust everything they say.
Osiris1
5 / 5 (6) Mar 30, 2017
IMHO..... Global warming may make equatorial areas unlivable even as the poles warm. See this: http://www.telegr...ble.html
Osiris1
not rated yet Mar 30, 2017
Putin is a lot smarter than Trumpf. Has to be to stay ahead of other Russians. Remember this is the place that hosted the first true space rocket scientist, Sergei Koreliv, who was able even under Stalin to develope what was really a space launch vehicle even it it was used as an ICBM. In fact the Proton engine is the main petroleum based space launch engine to this day.
aksdad
1 / 5 (6) Mar 30, 2017
It's strange when Dr. Evil starts saying scientifically accurate things. Warming started almost 12,000 years ago after a 100,000 year glacial period (ice age) and it was entirely natural.

Then it warmed and cooled numerous times by a few degrees C over the last several thousand years, also natural. It has both warmed and cooled over the last 150 years. Climate scientists attribute pre-1950 warming to mostly natural causes.

Here are 3 pictures taken in August in 1941, 1950 and 2004 of the glacier in Muir Inlet. Notice how much it retreated in just 9 years from 1941 to 1950, compared to the retreat over the next 54 years.

http://www.thisis...SGS1.jpg

Until they can explain why the glacier retreated so much prior to 1950, climate scientists are premature in attributing most warming in the last 30 years to human emissions. Putin and Trump are making statements that are scientifically accurate.
guptm
1 / 5 (6) Mar 30, 2017
Agreed with Putin. Intelligent life has no capacity to change the Earth's climate to a level that it becomes disastrous. Humans will never be able to understand fully how nature works. Nature is mysterious, humans are incomplete.
howhot3
5 / 5 (6) Mar 30, 2017
Basically, people that don't believe global warming is caused by mankind's usage of fossil fuels in the process of combustion are ill informed people or simply liberal bashers. I would have thought Putin to be smarter.
RealityCheck
3 / 5 (4) Mar 31, 2017
Hi askdad. :)

Re your 1941-1950-2004 era, please read my post to you in thread:

https://phys.org/...ate.html

RE your Putin being "scientifically accurate": I point out he is as 'accurate' as Trump-----ie, NOT at all. Consider: both have political/croney oligarchs/crooks who would profit personally/politically from such sabotage to alternatives to coal/oil/nuclear mining/use (Russia has vast reserves of coal, oil and gas; and nuclear reactors for nuclear fuel breeding for weapons). So "Dr Evil" (ie, Putin) would say whatever is best for him not wider humanity (just see what he did in Crimea/Syria).

Re geologic/natural climate change: there's no argument. The problem arises when change is TOO QUICK and/or IN ADDITION TO natural events-caused climate change. Also, variability in warming/cooling periods can occur due to super-volcanism (and/or drastic developments in life/industry, including humans-----we even affected Ozone Layer!).

Rethink. :)
SteveS
5 / 5 (2) Apr 01, 2017
Here are 3 pictures taken in August in 1941, 1950 and 2004 of the glacier in Muir Inlet. Notice how much it retreated in just 9 years from 1941 to 1950, compared to the retreat over the next 54 years.

Until they can explain why the glacier retreated so much prior to 1950, climate scientists are premature in attributing most warming in the last 30 years to human emissions.


In the 2004 picture the Riggs glacier has retreated to the point where its grounding line is above water level where the retreat slows as ice mass is lost through thinning rather than calving. The Muir glacier is not visible but has also retreated to the point where its grounding line is above water level a further 7 km up river.
https://www.googl...!3m1!1e3

Well now that's explained you have to agree that climate scientists are not being premature in attributing most warming in the last 30 years to human emissions.

antialias_physorg
5 / 5 (3) Apr 01, 2017
Hmm..a country whose only source of income is oil and gas and whose people are already rioting because the economy is in the dumps denies climate change?

Nah...totally legit.
Da Schneib
5 / 5 (1) Apr 01, 2017
Pooty lies a lot, and got caught lying about "the King of Italy" right after he pulled this boner.

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