Largest US offshore wind farm gets green light

Tthe Block Island Wind Farm off the shores of Rhode Island
Tthe Block Island Wind Farm off the shores of Rhode Island

Local authorities approved the largest offshore wind farm in the United States on Wednesday, to be located near Long Island and capable of powering some 50,000 households.

Construction on the site, which could begin by 2019, is set to install an initial 15 turbines with a capacity of 90 megawatts.

The South Fork Wind Farm will be located some 30 miles (50 kilometers) southeast of the tip of Long Island off Queens and Brooklyn.

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, who announced the initiative alongside the Long Island Power Authority, said the turbines would not be visible off the island's coast.

Project operator Deepwater Wind told AFP it aims to have the farm up and running by 2022, saying it had not yet decided on a manufacturer for the turbines.

South Fork will be only the second in the United States. The first, located off Rhode Island's Block Island in the northeastern United States, has been operational since December.

Its five turbines—manufactured in France by GE Renewable Energy—provide energy to 17,000 homes on the island and across New England.

"There is a huge clean energy resource blowing off of our coastline just over the horizon, and it is time to tap into this unlimited resource to power our communities," Deepwater Wind CEO Jeffrey Grybowski said in a statement.

The area where South Fork is located has the potential to host up to 1,000 megawatts of wind power, Cuomo said.

The New York governor has already committed to a target of generating 2.4 gigawatts of offshore energy—enough to power 1.25 million households—by 2030.

According to the agreement between the Long Island Energy Authority and Deepwater Wind, the government will pay for the generated but none of the costs for the site's construction and management.


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Jan 26, 2017
It's a bad news for Nature, ruination of natural seascapes, disruption of marine wildlife habitats and annihilation of millions of seabirds.
But it is a good news for the natural gas/fracking industry, more fossil fuels to keep lights on when wind is not blowing.
And all that with taxpayers' money with promise it will stop Climate Change.
"the wind plants and the solar plants, are gas plants"
https://www.youtu...1gmPL50s
https://pbs.twimg...ZJF8.jpg

Jan 26, 2017
It's a bad news for Nature, ruination of natural seascapes,

Read the article. It's over tthe horizon. There is no one to see it (anyways - how can you 'ruin a seascape...exactly?)

disruption of marine wildlife habitats

Now ypu've just gone off the rail. How exactly do you imagine that this interrupts marine wildlife? Haed on collisions with the pylons?

annihilation of millions of seabirds.

The equivalent power manufactured by coal powerplants kills more birds. So this is a hypocritical argument. Replacing coal with windfarms SAVES birds. You should be all over that. Or don't you care about the birds and just want to spout some inanity?

Thought so.

Jan 26, 2017

disruption of marine wildlife habitats

Now you've just gone off the rail. How exactly do you imagine that this interrupts marine wildlife? Head on collisions with the pylons?


I think the most likely outcome is the foundations acting as artificial reef walls. Just look at the multitude of life that you find around oil rigs and shipwrecks. Ask any diver or angler, you want to see aquatic life you go to a feature - reef, wall, stack, shipwreck, oil rig etc, open water is relatively devoid of life in comparison. Give it ten years and there will be a thriving ecosystem around them that doesn't currently exist.

Jan 26, 2017
It's a bad news for Nature, ruination of natural seascapes, disruption of marine wildlife habitats and annihilation of millions of seabirds.

WillieWard

The fossil fuel use the wind power replaces does all those harmful things to a vastly greater extent than wind power therefore wind power is GOOD news for nature, moron.

But it is a good news for the natural gas/fracking industry, more fossil fuels to keep lights on when wind is not blowing.

Nope, it isn't "more" fossil fuels to keep lights on when wind is not blowing; wind power will not cause demand for electricity to go up when the wind isn't blowing, moron. Why would it? What has whether we have wind power got to do with energy demand when the wind is NOT blowing?
You make no sense.

Jan 26, 2017
..coal powerplants kills more birds ... Replacing coal with windfarms SAVES birds.
Intermittent renewables are unable to replace fossil fuels(coal and/or natural gas/fracking). A lesson that already should be learned from Germany Energiewende experiment. Renewables are not helping to curb meaningfully greenhouse gas emissions.
Intermittent renewables are neither ecologically friendly nor carbon-free. It's just a way to lure taxpayers to waste their money and to make the fossil fuel barons ever wealthier.
"German emissions increased in 2016 for a second year in a row as a result of the country closing one of its nuclear plants and replacing it with coal and natural gas"
"Less sunshine and wind meant less more power from solar/wind — a dramatic illustration of the limits of weather-dependent energy sources."
http://www.enviro...-closure


Jan 26, 2017
...Replacing coal with windfarms...
If wind/solar has capacity factor around 30% it should be obvious that the remaining 70% comes mainly from fossil fuels, because hydro and geothermal are not always available due to geographical limitations, aside hydro dams emit huge quantities of methane, a greenhouse gas.
Capacity Factor:
nuclear 90.9%, Geothermal 67.2%, Biomass 67.1%, Coal-Fired 58.9%, Natural Gas 50.3%, Hydro 40.5%, Wind 32.3%, Solar 24.4%
https://pbs.twimg...BvqJ.jpg
http://www.ansnuc...phic.jpg
https://cdn-image...j9A.jpeg

Jan 26, 2017
Willie, a good example of progress is at Fukushima, where the nasty and grossly-polluting melted-down nuke plants fester, awaiting 40 years of "clean up" and are being replaced by beautiful, stately wind turbines, grandly turning out clean power.

Jan 26, 2017
Willie, the sun powers my house and car - no radioactivity, no nasty waste, no electricity or gasoline bill.

Why would anyone want a sizzling, potentially lethal nuke plant which takes too many specialists and high tech equipment to operate? Then, what do you do with the terrible waste, which we have no way to handle safely?

I love the no-maintenance solar system, and the almost maintenance-free EV (we had to replace the windshield washer fluid).

Jan 26, 2017
Intermittent renewables are unable to replace fossil fuels(coal and/or natural gas/fracking). A lesson that already should be learned from Germany Energiewende experiment.

Then you haven't checked any of the numbers. The only reason that coal is at the same level as before in germany is because renewables replaced all the nuclear powerplants that were turned off first. It could as well have been coal. You even quoted that YOURSELF in your post. Are you mental?

It's just a way to lure taxpayers to waste their money and to make the fossil fuel barons ever wealthier.

Since the cost for renewables (all types) is already below that of coal or nuclear - especially if you look at all the hidden subsidies fossil/nuclear are getting - what are you blathering about? The stuff SAVES money.

I know you like to pay taxes through the nose, but damn, man - think of other people's wallets

Jan 26, 2017
...a good example of progress is at Fukushima...
Thanks to sociopath fearmongers, thousands of Japanese people are dying from air pollution from fossil fuels (fossil fuels=best friends of intermittent renewables), meanwhile no one has been killed by radiation exposure.
"Which country was the world's biggest coal importer in 2015?"
"If you're tempted to believe it's dirty old China, think again. Japan -- home of the Toyota Prius and the world's largest floating solar-power farm -- shipped more coal than its neighbor across the East China Sea in 14 out of the past 24 months."
"Japan has been a bigger coal importer than China in 14 out of the past 24 months"
https://www.bloom...y-secret
"The immediate cost of air pollution: millions of lives lost"
"More than 5 million people died from air pollution in 2013"
http://www.humano...es-lost/

Jan 26, 2017

"Which country was the world's biggest coal importer in 2015?"
"If you're tempted to believe it's dirty old China, think again. Japan -- home of the Toyota Prius and the world's largest floating solar-power farm -- shipped more coal than its neighbor across the East China Sea in 14 out of the past 24 months."
"Japan has been a bigger coal importer than China in 14 out of the past 24 months"
https://www.bloom...y-secret


Scratches head....

China's the World's biggest producer of Coal and has 114 Billion tonnes in reserve.
Japan has approx 1 million tonnes of coal remaining.

Ergo Japan imports more coal than China.


Jan 26, 2017
Yup, relying on nukes turned out to be a BIG disaster. Their failure means they are stuck with coal, the second-worst fuel, after uranium and plutonium.

But how can they re-engineer their grid system with modern systems if they have to pay $190,000,000,000 to "clean up" the last disaster and keep their best engineers locked up with those disasters for 40 years?

Jan 26, 2017
Intermittent renewables are unable to replace fossil fuels

WillieWard

That is obviously false. Renewables can replace fossil fuels with of a supergrid (+ some off-the-grid energy if required, which it actually might not be) problem solved.
Thus rendering renewables being fickle irrelevant.

Intermittent renewables are neither ecologically friendly nor carbon-free.

They are vastly more ecologically friendly than fossil fuels and leave less carbon-footprint than the fossil fuels they replace and can be made to have completely carbon-footprint with sufficient time for technological improvements.


Jan 26, 2017
...renewables replaced all the nuclear powerplants...
Of course with help of coal and/or natural gas/fracking, or do you believe intermittent renewables alone can be able to replace a reliable(around the clock) source of carbon-free energy? Maybe in your dreams!
...subsidies...
"solar received 281 times more in subsidies per unit of electricity than nuclear, while wind received 17 times more, according to the Energy Information Administration."
https://uploads.d...fcc7.jpg
http://www.thecal...5929222/
https://www.eia.g...subsidy/

Jan 26, 2017
and can be made to have completely carbon-footprint with sufficient time for technological improvements.


misedit;
that should have been;
"...and can be made to have completely zero carbon-footprint with sufficient time for technological improvements.

Jan 26, 2017
That is obviously false. It can replace fossil fuels with of a supergrid...
Wow! Supergrid that superman will bring from krypton or tooth fairies from land of unicorns. Bring it fast! Super Elon Musk is already preparing supper batteries.
Supergrid, just remember "it's not a lie if you believe it".
http://s3.postimg...9099.jpg

Jan 26, 2017
Nukes require subsidies which will last forever in Human terms. Who is going to guard with deadly weapons the repositories of this nasty radioactive waste as long as Humans are alive? And when are we even going to find a way to do it?

What kind of person does this to his society?

BTW, Willie, I replaced my need for the Diablo Canyon nukes with my PV system right here at home.

Jan 26, 2017
I replaced my need for the Diablo Canyon nukes with my PV system right here at home.
...and still connected to the grid powered by fossil fuels.
"it's not a lie if you believe it".
http://s3.postimg...9099.jpg


Jan 26, 2017
Yes, I find that being connected lets me generate peak power and put it into the grid to replace the peaking systems. I take it out at night. It works for me and society at large.

California leads the way to the future, Willie. Soon, all of our nukes will be gone.

Jan 26, 2017
What kind of person does this to his society?

BTW, Willie, I replaced my need for the Diablo Canyon nukes with my PV system right here at home.

LOL.
Keep repeating that LIE, someday, like the rest of us, you might realize that it is.
What kind of "person" does this to his society?

The Pathological LIAR of course.
Now, tell us how much power goes into running your EV?

Jan 26, 2017
Gosh, anti, do you really want to get information from someone you smear as a liar?

I guess you are like Trump, using his negotiating "skills". See how well they are working?

Jan 26, 2017
Gosh, anti, do you really want to get information from someone you smear as a liar?

I guess you are like Trump, using his negotiating "skills". See how well they are working?

LMAO. It's so amusing that you would invoke frump.
A definite trait of the Pathological LIAR, as you clearly demonstrate, is that you refuse to acknowledge what you are. So, why would you not recognize that you and frump are kindred spirits.

Now, lie some more and tell us how much power goes into running your EV.

Jan 26, 2017
That is obviously false. It can replace fossil fuels with of a supergrid...
Wow! Supergrid that superman will bring from krypton or tooth fairies from land of unicorns.

WillieWard

Your delusional total ignorance is only matched by your total stupidity. I didn't just make that up, moron;

https://en.wikipe...per_grid

read what a supergrid is; learn something new; then come back to us.

Jan 26, 2017
delusional total ignorance
Oh yeah! Germany is using Super Mega Grid too.
"Energiewende poses a huge problem for the electrical grid, since solar and wind power are intermittent sources and can trigger blackouts. Furthermore, Germany's green subsidies are distorting the power market, making electricity more expensive"
"Germany's green energy policies will likely lead to disaster, according a major environmentalist in the country"
"...it will spend over $1.1 trillion on its "Energiewende" plan to boost green energy production and fight global warming. But the plan hasn't achieved the government's goal of significantly reducing carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions."
"Coal now provides 44 percent of Germany's power, despite the fact that coal ash is actually more radioactive than nuclear waste."
"Germany will get rid of 6,000 megawatts of wind power capacity by 2019"
http://dailycalle...-making/

Jan 26, 2017
Offshore wind is a great idea, and will help assure we have a clean and emissions-free way to produce the fuel of today - electricity, for housepower, for horsepower, for industry.

We will have two Westinghouse nuke plants for sale soon, Willie. And I'll bet you can get some old ones in the Midwest for free - just assume the cost of operating or getting rid of them.


Jan 26, 2017
is a great idea

Lying is a great idea, only to the Pathological LIAR.
Now tell us, how many miles have you driven in your EV?

Jan 26, 2017
Offshore wind is a great idea...
"Germany will get rid of 6,000 megawatts of wind power capacity by 2019"
http://dailycalle...-making/
Eco-nuts have cognitive dissonance or are sociopath liars, maybe both mental diseases.

Jan 26, 2017
The Daily Caller?

Not exactly Science magazine, is it? It is a right-wing political rag, not a science publication.

"Eco-nuts have cognitive dissonance or are sociopath liars, maybe both mental diseases"

Really, Willie? But we do not have the guilt and $190,000,000,000 cost of damage control from our power sources, do we?

Jan 26, 2017
Willie and the nuke industry will fulfill the promise of employment with the thousands of engineers and radiation sponges they will need at Fukushima for the next 40 years, . . . if everything goes perfectly right.

Jan 26, 2017
Not exactly Science magazine, is it?

Not exactly an engineer, are you?
Keep deflecting from the truth.
Now, tell us how many miles you have driven in your EV?

Jan 26, 2017
Not exactly Science magazine, is it?

Not exactly an engineer, are you?
Keep deflecting from the truth.
Now, tell us how many miles you have driven in your EV?
I think he's already shared this with us. He should have no problems repeating it.

Jan 26, 2017
Not exactly Science magazine, is it?
The Global Warming Policy Foundation:
"Germany's Energiewende: A Disaster In The Making"
http://www.thegwp...-making/
http://www.thegwp...ende.pdf

Jan 26, 2017
Read the article. It's over tthe horizon. There is no one to see it
Pleasure boating and recreational fishing are a multibillion $$ industry.
(anyways - how can you 'ruin a seascape...exactly?)
Well you could stick an oil platform in it. I bet even you would find that unattractive.

Jan 26, 2017
Not exactly Science magazine, is it?

Not exactly an engineer, are you?
Keep deflecting from the truth.
Now, tell us how many miles you have driven in your EV?
I think he's already shared this with us. He should have no problems repeating it.

Actually, he does have a problem repeating it, because he knows he lied and now can't remember. I can just picture him trying to find that post and of course being the fake engineer and computer illiterate he is clueless as to how to use the search.

What astonishes me, is even for a fake engineer, he does not realize that simple arithmetic reveals his deceit.

Jan 26, 2017
Please stop screaming across the playground.

Thank you.

Jan 26, 2017
Please stop screaming across the playground.

Thank you.

Poor Georgie, are we taking you back to childhood, when everyone realized what a Pathological LIAR you are.

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