California land officials sign off on closing nuclear plant

June 29, 2016 by Alison Noon
John Geesman, an attorney for the Alliance for Nuclear Responsibility, calls on members of the California Lands Commission to reject a proposal to waive an environmental review of the Diablo Canyon Nuclear Power plant before renewing the plant's license, Tuesday, June 28, 2016, in Sacramento, Calif. The commissioners were considering waiving an environmental impact report before renewing a contract with the plant's owners, PG&E, after an agreement was reached with environmental groups to close the nuclear power facility by 2025, nine years earlier than previously planned. (AP Photo/Rich Pedroncelli)

California land officials dropped their longstanding environmental objections to the state's last nuclear power plant and signed off Tuesday on a deal to close the Central Coast facility many years earlier than its operators had previously sought.

The State Lands Commission approved a lease allowing Pacific Gas and Electric Co. to continue operating the Diablo Canyon twin-reactor plant through August 2025, a date the company and environmental groups agreed to last week. Members turned down a proposed , which can take years, in part to meet the earlier termination date.

PG&E President Tony Earley told reporters last week the utility will save more money closing Diablo Canyon than running it through 2044 as planned.

Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom said keeping the plant open for nine years allows PG&E to avoid the mistakes of Edison International, which terminated its San Onofre nuclear generator in 2013 after hundreds of abrupt layoffs. The company largely replaced the nuclear power with climate-changing natural gas plants.

"Let's not fail the plant," Newsom said. "Let's have the conversation now about what that means to the workforce, what that means to the community, what that means to our efforts to provide alternative energy sources at a competitive price."

Peter Galbraith displays his opposition to a proposal to waive an environmental review of the Diablo Canyon Nuclear Power plant before renewing the plant's license, Tuesday, June 28, 2016, in Sacramento, Calif. The California Lands Commission listened to supporters and opponents of a plan to waive an environmental impact report before renewing a contract with the plant's owners, PG&E, after an agreement was reached with environmental groups to close the nuclear power facility by 2025, nine years earlier than previously planned. (AP Photo/Rich Pedroncelli)

Tom Dalzell, business manager of a union that represents 600 of the plant's employees, said the agreement promises to retrain and transition employees away from Diablo Canyon, avoiding a precipitous change.

Friends of the Earth President Erich Pica, whose organization participated in the negotiation to terminate the plant, said the agreement is fair to workers while eliminating two decades of seismic risks.

"This is the way you do it," Pica said. "You have time, you can bring on the right resources and you can treat people right."

Not all conservationists back the plan, though. Dozens of activists, including some who have been fighting nuclear energy for 40 years, argued Tuesday against the plant's continued operation near major earthquake-causing fault lines.

A photo of the Diablo Canyon Nuclear Power Plant is displayed at California Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom, second from right, a member of the California Lands Commission listens to the discussion about a renewing the plant's license Tuesday, June 28, 2016, in Sacramento, Calif. Newsom and other members of the commission were considering waiving an environmental review before renewing a contract with the plant's owners, PG&E, after an agreement was reached with environmental groups to close the nuclear power facility by 2025, nine years earlier than previously planned. (AP Photo/Rich Pedroncelli)

John Geesman of the Alliance for Nuclear Responsibility said the state should have conducted one of its strict environmental reviews before approving the lease, however short.

Geisha Williams, PG&E president of electric operations, said the nine years are a gift and the company will use the better part of that time to build and prepare an alternative energy facility in California.

Williams said PG&E could pivot to wind, solar, biomass, geothermal or hydropower to replace the energy Diablo Canyon currently provides—about 9 percent of the state's power.

The commission's vote is the first of multiple regulatory hurdles facing the agreement to shut down the 31-year-old plant.

This aerial file photo taken, June 20, 2010, shows the Diablo Canyon Nuclear Power Plant, in Avila Beach, Calif. California regulators are expected to decide Tuesday, June 28, 2016, whether to drop their longstanding environmental objections to the state's last nuclear power plant in return for its promised early closing. (Joe Johnston/The Tribune (of San Luis Obispo) via AP, File)

Diablo Canyon's twin reactors hug a Pacific Ocean bluff midway on the coast between Los Angeles and San Francisco, in San Luis Obispo County.

Fears about the seismic faults running through the area have dogged the project since its conception in the 1960s, and fostered opposition nationally to nuclear power within the country's then-fledgling environmental movement.

PG&E maintains the plant could withstand the strongest likely earthquakes, but growing scientific knowledge about the seismology has heightened worries.

The state's largest utility and environmental groups agree that California no longer needs the electricity from Diablo Canyon, given increased energy efficiency in the state and the growing availability and affordability of solar and wind power and other renewable energy.

Nationally, the nuclear-power industry is caught in a debate between those who call an essential alternative to climate changing fossil fuels, and those who question the growing costs of maintaining the country's decades-old nuclear plants.

In this file photo taken, March 17, 2016, people rally in front of the San Luis Obispo County government building in support of Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant in San Luis Obispo, Calif. California regulators are expected to decide Tuesday, June 28, 2016, whether to drop their longstanding environmental objections to the state's last nuclear power plant in return for its promised early closing. (David Middlecamp/The Tribune (of San Luis Obispo) via AP, File)

In this Jan. 9, 2013 file photo, station director Jim Welch, right, gives members of the California Coastal Commission and others a tour of the generator turbine deck of the Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant in San Luis Obispo, Calif. California regulators are expected to decide Tuesday, June 28, 2016, whether to drop their longstanding environmental objections to the state's last nuclear power plant in return for its promised early closing. (Joe Johnston/The Tribune (of San Luis Obispo) via AP, File)
This Nov. 3, 2008, file photo, shows one of Pacific Gas and Electric's Diablo Canyon Power Plant's nuclear reactors in Avila Beach, Calif. California regulators are expected to decide Tuesday, June 28, 2016, whether to drop their longstanding environmental objections to the state's last nuclear power plant in return for its promised early closing. (AP Photo/Michael A. Mariant, File)

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WillieWard
1.4 / 5 (10) Jun 29, 2016
"..replaced the nuclear power with climate-changing natural gas plants"..."solar and wind power and other renewable energy"
"other renewable energy" should be read as "natural gas/fracking", and
"Friends of the Earth" should be read as "Friends of the natural gas/fracking industry"
gkam
1.5 / 5 (8) Jun 30, 2016
You already lost, Willie.

Whining now will do you no good.
WillieWard
1.4 / 5 (10) Jun 30, 2016
You already lost
and Eco-hypocrites are the big winners with help of natural gas/fracking industry.
gkam
1.5 / 5 (8) Jun 30, 2016
Not me, Willikins. I produce my own electricity.

And auto fuel, too.

What do you do?
WillieWard
1.7 / 5 (11) Jun 30, 2016
I produce my own electricity.
day-and-night/cloudy-weather, gskam has found a way to convert his fibs into electricity.
gkam
1 / 5 (7) Jun 30, 2016
I told you how I generate all the kWh I use, Willie.

Where do you get YOUR power?
Captain Stumpy
3.3 / 5 (12) Jul 01, 2016
I produce my own electricity
@stolen valor Liar-kam
no, you don't. you get your electricity from the grid and use AC
your PV is DC and it's not hooked to a battery system, per your own comments, nor are you using power inverters to change your battery to AC

Therefore you are not making your own electricity, you're selling PV to the grid, and it doesn't cover usage, otherwise you would be able to remove yourself from the grid
I told you how I generate all the kWh I use
i'm calling bullsh*t on this too
I've seen your house on google and it doesn't look like you're running more than 15 200w plus panels with a battery system

more to the point: with your air conditioning unit, fans, fridge, heat for the size house, etc, you are definitely not using DC or inverters, let alone "generating all the kWk you use" with your panels, no matter what you say about your power bill here

&considering you're a blatant chronic lair too... do the math
epic fail!
gkam
1 / 5 (7) Jul 01, 2016
Trumpy, I do not understand how you can make such silly assumptions then attack me based on them. Is it your psychological state? Are you mad? Do I get under your skin, like E. Warren and your namesake??

Yes, I have an inverter (look up Solar Edge), and no A/C. And yes, so far, I have produced more electricity than we have used for the house and car combined. This Winter we will not, so the surplus now will help cover the Winter use. The system was only supposed to cover 90% of the house, but it does much more.

"I've seen your house on google and it doesn't look like you're running more than 15 200w plus panels with a battery system"

Thanks for that, it once again shows your real ignorance. Google Earth does not yet have a picture of my house with the panels, and there are 18 at 255 Watts apiece,and no batteries.

Who is the "blatant chronic liar"?
Captain Stumpy
4.2 / 5 (10) Jul 01, 2016
@stolen valor liar-kam
silly assumptions
not assumption
you've admitted as much
it's plainly visible on Google
attack me
no, pointing out you're a chronic liar and you've posted a non-factual point
lying is something i would expect from a religious fundie but not from a STEM grad with an MS
no A/C
bullsh*t - see Google Maps
Google Earth does not yet have a picture of my house with the panels
1- Google refreshes it's maps in urban or high populations more than lower populations- this is fact

2- My area was just updated (this month) to a year old pic, so i can guarantee your area must be at least a year old, and you've been saying you've had your panels for more than a year

.

so which is it?
Who is the "blatant chronic liar"?
is it google?

are you really saying google is the liar here?
the place where you can actually validate a claim by either looking it up or querying the site?
really?

per our agreement... well, you know the deal
Captain Stumpy
3.8 / 5 (10) Jul 01, 2016
@stolen valor liar-kam
Google Earth does not yet have a picture of my house with the panels, and there are 18 at 255 Watts apiece,and no batteries
just checked the map again

queried google - they said look at the bottom for the copyright date and that will be the last time your specific area was updated, though it will only specify the year, not a month

your map address specifically stated
Imagery (c)2016
so that means you've been lying a lot lately.

even considering it's a year out of date:
still no panels
still no e-golf (but at least you can claim that is in your garage or the crappy shed you have next to it)
still a mess in your yard (are those blue chemical barrels? haz-mat? or is it for spare water? LMFAO)
still an AC unit

.

you do the math

.

.

Thanks for that, it once again shows your real ignorance

Who is the "blatant chronic liar"?
Uncle Ira
4 / 5 (12) Jul 01, 2016
@ Captain-Skippy. How you are? I am good. Thanks for bringing up that Google-Skippy idea. glam-Skippy just got caught again by being too smart for his own good.

You heard about the DMV losing track of his electric car didn't you? Yeah, they don't have it.

Now it seems like he got his solar panes put on the wrong house too. He got the bad luck with his electric car and his solar panes too, They keep getting misplaced.

Awhile back he send me a picture of his solar panes. I say to my self: Hooyeei, the p'tit boug has gone out and buy him some real solar panes, and did not think to much more about it. Then today I look at the Google-Skippy satellite picture, and compare it to the picture he sent me. The picture he send to me is his NEIGHBOR'S house. He show me his neighbor's solar panes.

That is one hundred and more percent true I gar-ran-tee you. I will send you the glam-Skippy picture he send to me and you compare him your self and see if I am not right, eh?
gkam
1.6 / 5 (7) Jul 01, 2016
Do you have solar panels? Do you understand how electrical systems work? Your allegations are silly. My panels are not yet on Google Earth, the last pic taken in October. I got them in January/Feb.

Or are you here for sniping at others? I think your entire driving force is your emotional hate for having challenged a real person and lost. What got to you the most, the base newspaper of the Air Force Flight Test Center? My picture and name on three military websites, including one in which I was not a member? Why did they do that?

Maybe it was the catalog of NASA studies and reports, with my name on the top of page 41. Was that it?

Or being Senior Engineer for PG&E in Technical Services? Or teaching those 30,000 engineers how electricity really works?

It is important to understand your character before we consider your allegations.
gkam
1.6 / 5 (7) Jul 01, 2016
Don't go away, Ira. We haven't talked about the other things you accused me of lying about which I proved, such as my Master of Science. And did you read my Air Force performance reports posted online by your Trumpy? I like the part where the Avionics Officer talked about the "perfect airman". Or did you like the part where the Commander said I should be "promoted at the earliest opportunity"?

You fools do not understand YOU are the ones making me dredge this stuff up, because of your adolescent challenges. If you had the maturity to ask how it all worked, happened, or whatever, like real people you could have learned something. But your silly little egos assumed I was phony like you, and you pounced.

You caught yourselves.
Captain Stumpy
4.1 / 5 (9) Jul 01, 2016
@stolen valor liar-kam
Do you have solar panels? Do you understand how electrical systems work?
hey idiot, i don't live on the grid like you
i have only solar, wind and an emergency generator, remember?

so i know a hell of a lot more about living on solar than you do as i've been doing it for more than ten years

check out my google map address: it's updated, you can see my panels, pond, Mule enclosure, garden enclosure, etc
the last pic taken in October. I got them in January/Feb
not according to google
google i can verify and validate
you don't have the same track record
I think
no proof there
driving force
it's simple:
if it can't be validated, its a load of sh*t

also known colloquially as a "lie", blatant false claim, pseudoscience, stupidity, religion, conspiracist ideation, D-K or delusion ... etc

see also:
http://www.auburn...ion.html
Uncle Ira
4.6 / 5 (9) Jul 01, 2016
Do you have solar panels?
Never lied about having, what's your point?

Do you understand how electrical systems work?
Much better than you Skippy

Your allegations are silly.
Not as silly as you sending me a picture of your neighbor's house with solar panes on him.

My panels are not yet on Google Earth, the last pic taken in October.
You got to get them moved over from your neighbor's house before they can show up on your house.

Cher, the roof in the picture you send me, is not the roof at 533 Westover. It is the roof next door. Your neighbor added some more panes between Google-Skippy's update the picture you send to me.

Oh, I know, your neighbor is letting you use his roof? Is your electric car registered in his name too?
Uncle Ira
4.6 / 5 (9) Jul 01, 2016
Don't go away, Ira.
What that means? I was here when you got and will be here when you leave.

We haven't talked about the other things you accused me of lying about which I proved, such as my Master of Science. And did you read my Air Force performance reports posted online by your Trumpy? I like the part where the Avionics Officer talked about the "perfect airman". Or did you like the part where the Commander said I should be "promoted at the earliest opportunity"?

You fools do not understand YOU are the ones making me dredge this stuff up, because of your adolescent challenges. If you had the maturity to ask how it all worked, happened, or whatever, like real people you could have learned something. But your silly little egos assumed I was phony like you, and you pounced.


What does any of that got to do with you sending me pictures of your neighbor's roof?
Captain Stumpy
3.9 / 5 (11) Jul 01, 2016
@stolen valor liar-kam cont'd
It is important to understand your character before we consider your allegations
considering the overwhelming number of lies you've been caught in, this would indicate what about you then?

the reality:
a lie is a lie

if ya can't validate the claim, it's a blatant lie

it doesn't matter what "authority" you have (in science or anywhere else) if ya can't validate your claims

having a degree doesn't make you right, either, regardless of said degree, if ya can't prove your claim

not going to continue pointing out you're a blatant liar in this thread
i proved my point
https://www.googl....0803818

end of story

oh, and per our agreement... you know the deal
Captain Stumpy
3.9 / 5 (11) Jul 01, 2016
What does any of that got to do with you sending me pictures of your neighbor's roof?
@Ira
classic liars trick - since she can't prove she has them, she sends pics of the neighbor who does have them as "proof" of her lie

problem is: she also posted her freakin name and address publicly on the internet, so we can see that it doesn't match his address

worse still, she actually brags about her web-site which also releases personal information!

she must be a mental patient escaped from a senior care facility and let loose on the internet

one thing for sure, she really must believe what she is saying, regardless of the evidence to the contrary, otherwise why would she continue to repeat the same tired lies and get proven an idiot over and over?

ROTFLMFAO
gkam
1 / 5 (7) Jul 01, 2016
Tell us what part of my performance reviews you liked the most. Are you alleging they are phony, like your put-up name? On what do you base your disgusting "stolen valor" claim? Tell me.

You saw my picture on those military websites, the MS degree, even the laudatory comments in my personal performance reviews themselves. I sent you folk the NASA catalog, my business card with Senior Energy Services Engineer on it, and you still cannot accept you caught yourself in your own lies.

It is your lack of character which drives you folk who are too scared to identify yourselves. You resent others who have better character, and attack them. But it does not reveal the character of your victims, it only confirms yours in the eyes of others.

gkam
1 / 5 (7) Jul 01, 2016
No, Toots, you accused me of "stolen valor" and I resent it. I proved my service and you have not. I think you are just like otto, a fat shut-in, with no life. How else do you have all day to blabber here? No real job would allow what you and Ira do all day.

"ROTFLMFAO"? Oh, no, . . not those silly adolescent insults! Please. They really hurt grownups. Good thing ISIS doesn't have them.
Uncle Ira
4.3 / 5 (12) Jul 01, 2016
Tell us what part of my performance reviews you liked the most. Are you alleging they are phony, like your put-up name? On what do you base your disgusting "stolen valor" claim? Tell me.

You saw my picture on those military websites, the MS degree, even the laudatory comments in my personal performance reviews themselves. I sent you folk the NASA catalog, my business card with Senior Energy Services Engineer on it, and you still cannot accept you caught yourself in your own lies.

It is your lack of character which drives you folk who are too scared to identify yourselves. You resent others who have better character, and attack them. But it does not reveal the character of your victims, it only confirms yours in the eyes of others.


What does that have to do with sending out pictures of your neighbor's roof? Or the California DMV losing track of your electric car? (That is a trick question Cher, see if you are smart enough to figure him out. I bet non on that.)
gkam
1 / 5 (7) Jul 01, 2016
If you are too stupid to find the registered and paid-for EV in my driveway, do not blame others. If you cannot accept others have done things you will never approach, then stay on that boat. The world will just make you feel overwhelmed.

I was talking to Trumpy then, and just like you, he responded to my post to you. Are you both the same sniper? Are you otto,too?

Let's get back to California nukes and alternative sources of energy, which is my former field. When we want answers about boats we will ask.
Captain Stumpy
4.2 / 5 (10) Jul 01, 2016
stolen valor liar-kam
last post to you till evidence
Are you alleging they are phony
until they're validated by the USAF then it very well could be
Tell me
V citation on medals sans evidence of even the medals on your 214, which require all education, training, awards/citations to be listed per MIL regs
also, per your VA claims when you're a REMF
you're the reason needy veterans don't get VA attention... because you want attention and suck the funding away from them
I resent it
not an accusation if i can prove you said it
i don't care if you resent it
a lie is a lie
I proved
you did NOT prove:
medals
V awards
combat experience
medical history for VA claims

but that's ok, i have your SSN and i've requested the information per FOI, which doesn't require your signature considering the threat of litigation, also forwarded with references/links to insure legal compliance per the US MIL REG's

i know the regs, you don't
it pays to be a real vet
bye
TheGhostofOtto1923
3.8 / 5 (10) Jul 01, 2016
Go stumpy.
gkam
1 / 5 (7) Jul 01, 2016
Who are you? Come out of hiding and face me, a real Veteran. You said you were in The Bush Wars. They must have gotten to you, maybe with a snort of burn pit. My son-in-law is a mess because of the First Bush War.

If you fell apart, it is understandable. I got sick of being part of the killing of people in their own country and stood up and said so while still in Korat. It was unappreciated. I am not afraid of someone like you hiding in the woods, or a fat sloppy otto, or a coonass Ira. You are just internet phonies hiding behind phony names.

But why the fixation on getting even? Was it that bad of a perceived insult?

Let's get back to science. When a field comes up in which I have experience, I will post it. You can do the same. In what field is your experience? Got proof?
TheGhostofOtto1923
4 / 5 (8) Jul 01, 2016
If george kamburoff is too stupid to find the registered and paid-for EV in my driveway, do not blame others
If you are too stupid to lie and get away with it, do not blame others.

If george kamburoff is too stupid to post personal info on the internet and not realize the peril he has put himself and his family in, do not blame others.

And no georgie this is not a threat. Apparently there is no one else in your life to tell you how reckless your selfish need to brag has made you. Im sure you have bullied your poor family into silence.
TheGhostofOtto1923
3.7 / 5 (9) Jul 01, 2016
Let's get back to science
A sane man would be far more concerned about what he has exposed himself and his family to, than continuing to participate here as if nothing has happened.

But george kamburoff the lying cheating psychopath cares only about HIS needs, HIS gratification.
gkam
1 / 5 (7) Jul 01, 2016
Who are you, otto, and why do you have to hide? Are you really like they said? A porcine shut-in? And how do you have all this time to snipe? Is the internet your only friend? I just wonder, because you have a particularly dirty mouth and offensive manner. Since all bullies are cowards, I wanted to find out. Especially the bullies who have to hide out of fear and cowardice

You assume you are immune from consequences of your actions.

You are going to be surprised. It just takes time.
Uncle Ira
4 / 5 (12) Jul 01, 2016
Let's get back to California nukes and alternative sources of energy,


Good, back to topic. Why do California let peoples own and operate electric cars on their highways without registering with the DMV? And why you send Ira-Skippy a picture of your neighbor's roof to show off the solar panes you use to charge the electric car that DMV says you do not own? That as about an alternate energy source as I never did hear of?

which is my former field.[/]You was a "former" lot things and some you still are.

When we want answers about boats we will ask.
Who said anything about boats? We were talking about "your" solar panes and "your" electric car and the alternate reality sources they operate in. (On your neighbor's roof)
gkam
1 / 5 (7) Jul 01, 2016
Ira, if you are unable to figure out your own errors, do not keep on relying on me. You are not worth it. But I'll give you one more chance.

Send me that picture you said I sent to you and I will tell you where those panels are. I have one pic taken by the installers of four panels on a roof with twelve more on the upstairs part of the roof, and two hidden in the pic.

Your attempt to "prove" I am as phony as you three will not work, for the same reason your other lies were proven to be just that: I am real. You hide behind a phony name.

You are SCARED of taking responsibility for your words.
TheGhostofOtto1923
3.4 / 5 (10) Jul 01, 2016
You are going to be surprised. It just takes time
-and money, dont forget that. So in addition to recklessly exposing himself and his family on the internet, george kamburoff now has to piss even more of his poor wifes retirement money away on lawyers.

And I assume a security system. Can your PV system handle the increased load?

And also this?
https://www.lifelock.com/

-Being a psychopath can be very expensive but usually the psychopath is not spending HIS money so it doesnt matter.
TheGhostofOtto1923
3.7 / 5 (9) Jul 01, 2016
You are SCARED of taking responsibility for your words
-And youre not scared of anything, unlike normal people, because youre a flaming fucking PSYCHOPATH. You dont FEEL much of anything except WANT.

Thats why you think fear is a weakness to be exploited in lesser beings. Thats why your family is probably aware of what youre doing here - youve convinced them that only you can protect them. But they need to be afraid of something tangible for them to realize it.

Knowledge trumps fear. And everybody here knows exactly who and what you are.
Uncle Ira
4.3 / 5 (11) Jul 01, 2016
Send me that picture you said I sent to you and I will tell you where those panels are. I have one pic taken by the installers of four panels on a roof with twelve more on the upstairs part of the roof, and two hidden in the pic..


Nice try Cher. But the roof you send me the picture of is NOT the same roof on the Google's-Satellite-Map. They are not the same roof. If you sent to me a picture of "your" solar panes, they are on your neighbor's house. The lines and breaks in the roof don't match your roof, but they exactly match the roof next door. Let the panes out, they are not the same roofs.

Skippy, you got a really serious mental conditions if you are thinking you can just wing your way through another lie after another lie. You are not that smart. And all the peoples here on the physorg are not that stupid. Well most aren't, you might have one or two that might still believe you (or they don't want to admit that you sucked them in for long maybe.)
gkam
1 / 5 (8) Jul 01, 2016
You are SCARED, otto.

SCARED.

It is why you hide your fat body behind a phony Nazi name. Bullies like you are always cowards, but internet bullies are the worst of all, because they do it HIDING, no guts to face their actions or their victims.

Look at the fixation on psychopathy for a view into the life of an "otto". Look at the silly adolescent comments by mental kids who think they are clever, but add nothing to a debate in science. Personal attacks are what they favor.

Again, let's get back to science. We are closing our last nukes here. Sorry, Willie.
Garrote
3.6 / 5 (13) Jul 01, 2016
@WillieWanker

Listen up, you ignorant arse. Fracking wells are drilled not knowing if they will produce oil or gas. All produce both. If it's more than 50% gas, that's a "natural gas well". No one fracks specifically to produce methane.

I saw a tee at a Texas brewery you need. "Mother's little fracker". In your case it should just say, "Mother fracker".
Captain Stumpy
3.5 / 5 (11) Jul 02, 2016
Can your PV system handle the increased load?
Go Otto!
he gets his power from the grid, not the PV's. he just sells power back to the grid

anyone who actually lives on PV's will know this because they give you DC, not AC

it requires a battery system and/or inverters to run AC devices like TV, computer, fridge and, *this is the biggie*, AC units, which, as you can see on stolen valor liar-kam's house link above, is still there

things like electric motors (fans) or heating devices suck a LOT of energy, so using them during the day uses the PV and it can't recharge the batteries for night use if there is no grid

no grid, no night juice with all his needs

so stolen valor liar-kam isn't as green as he promotes himself as being because he still requires the grid to feed his habits

even though he sent Ira the neighbors PV setup, you maybe can run his central air on the setup he stated he has, but screw the rest like: fridge, car charging, lights, fans etc
TheGhostofOtto1923
4.5 / 5 (8) Jul 02, 2016
You are SCARED, otto
George kamburoff is SCARED of being himself. Thats why he needs to lie about most everything.
the roof you send me the picture of is NOT the same roof on the Google's-Satellite-Map... they are on your neighbor's house
-See? Its a sure bet that everything george kamburoff says is a lie.

But its not really fear. Perhaps george has tried being honest at some point in his life but he quickly found that, for him, lying and victimizing give greater returns.

His sickness reveals itself when georges lies are quickly discovered, when george describes his failed career as a series of triumphs rather than obvious failures, when george tries in vain to elicit our pity or play on our fears.

Tricks of the trade for a psychopath. They are incapable of seeing their world from a rational perspective. Theyre addicted to the thrill of the lie.

Refining their lying and victimizing skills is all they ever think about. Its obsessive-compulsive.

Right george?
WillieWard
1.7 / 5 (6) Jul 03, 2016
"Friends of the natural gas/fracking industry"
"A growing number of independent and industry experts agree that carbon emissions would rise from increased natural gas use were Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant to close."
"so losing Diablo Canyon would raise emissions."
"Borenstein is the latest energy expert to conclude that closing Diablo Canyon would result in higher emissions from electrical generation from natural gas."
http://www.enviro...ts-agree
HocusLocus
3.9 / 5 (7) Jul 04, 2016
That last cannibal army, great in number, will march on the Diablo Canyon Nuclear Plant to absorb and consume the small group of engineers and scientists who have gathered there to preserve the remaining fruits of civilization. Cannibals are easily swayed by reason you might say --- they are even attracted to it --- because wherever reason exists there are yummy people to consume. And consume they will until the last corn-fed game is exhausted. And then they will turn on each other and feast until human population levels out and reaches an eco-sustainable level of 0.

The fate of California's energy policy is foretold in the book, Lucifer's Hammer. Devour this book.
gkam
1 / 5 (8) Jul 04, 2016
The "fate" of our power was already foretold, the year I was hired by PG&E, 1980. The book "Overload" came out about the company and how we could not produce the power needed for progress, and how the system imploded. Except it didn't.

We put together the most complete Energy Management and Conservation process ever done, and saved enough waste in the facilities of our customers to carry us through until we got more sources. It worked.

The most interesting part about it is the the son of the author worked with us in doing the job, in making his dad's prediction wrong.
WillieWard
1.7 / 5 (6) Jul 04, 2016
the year I was hired by PG&E, 1980.
Notice how sociopaths love to exaggerate their professional experience.
http://images.huf...humb.jpg
http://www.huffin...497.html
http://www.natura...nce.html
gkam
1 / 5 (9) Jul 04, 2016
The 1980's actions led the company into the job of finding and developing additional technologies for power sources. And now that we are going to shed our last nuke, the hard work we did for decades is paying off, in distributed technologies we can all use.

The things which will change us fastest are residential solar power and electric vehicles.
Benni
2 / 5 (8) Jul 04, 2016
The things which will change us fastest are residential solar power and electric vehicles


Therefore Californians need to begin planning to run very long extension cords to the house of geek's neighbor, later they can hook up to geek's house after he gets everything else installed.......then VOILA, California does not need nukes, just geek & his neighbor in a nearby good neighbor state.
gkam
1 / 5 (8) Jul 04, 2016
Conservative Science, Benni? Do your mathematics to get to that conclusion?

You remind me of the guy who called me up at PG&E and told me how he was going to outsmart us with his little wind turbine. He was going to use all the power he wanted, then run lines to all of his neighbors. Showed us, ha, ha.

Except he was unaware of the mechanical load put on generators by magnetic fields when they get loaded. His little system could not power his toaster, let alone several houses without either burning up or stalling out..
TheGhostofOtto1923
4 / 5 (8) Jul 05, 2016
We put together the most complete Energy Management and Conservation process ever done, and saved enough waste in the facilities of our customers to carry us through until we got more sources. It worked
Was this before or after you got yourself canned?

Again?
KaFaraqGatri
Jul 06, 2016
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Jul 06, 2016
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Jul 06, 2016
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gkam
1 / 5 (5) Jul 06, 2016
Can we get back to the point of California and nukes?

Thanks.

We will have to do all on the list to cover for those plants, but must do it. We are way overdue for a set of big earthquakes, and Diablo squats right in the middle of a bunch of fractures.

Fortunately we responded in the 1980's to a lack of generation, by reducing waste and developing alternative sources, and can do it again.
WillieWard
1 / 5 (1) Jul 06, 2016
We are way overdue for a set of big earthquakes, and Diablo squats right in the middle of a bunch of fractures.
Japan was hit by tremendous earthquake/tsunami, but nobody was killed by radiation.
Scaremongers and sensationalist mass media induce more deaths than nuclear incidents.
developing alternative sources
"alternative sources" should be read as "natural gas/fracking"

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