SpaceX delivers world's first inflatable room for astronauts

SpaceX delivers world's first inflatable room for astronauts
In this frame taken from video from NASA TV, the SpaceX Dragon cargo ship is captured by a robot arm from the International Space Station, Sunday April 10, 2016. A SpaceX Dragon cargo ship arrived at the International Space Station on Sunday, two days after launching from Cape Canaveral, Florida. Station astronauts used a big robot arm to capture the Dragon, orbiting 260 miles above Earth. (NASA TV via AP)

SpaceX has made good on a high-priority delivery: the world's first inflatable room for astronauts.

A SpaceX Dragon cargo ship arrived at the International Space Station on Sunday, two days after launching from Cape Canaveral. Station astronauts used a robot arm to capture the Dragon, orbiting 250 miles (400 kilometers) above Earth.

The Dragon holds 7,000 pounds (3,175 kilograms) of freight, including the soft-sided compartment built by Bigelow Aerospace. The pioneering pod—packed tightly for launch—should swell to the size of a small bedroom once filled with air next month.

It will be attached to the space station this Saturday, but won't be inflated until the end of May. The technology could change the way astronauts live in space: NASA envisions inflatable habitats in a couple of decades on Mars, while Bigelow Aerospace aims to launch a pair of inflatable space stations in just four years for commercial lease.

For now, the Bigelow Expandable Activity Module—BEAM for short—will remain mostly off-limits to the six-man station crew. NASA wants to see how the experimental chamber functions, so the hatch will stay sealed except when astronauts enter a few times a year to collect measurements and swap out sensors.

SpaceX delivers world's first inflatable room for astronauts
In this frame taken from video from NASA TV, the SpaceX Dragon cargo ship approaches the International Space Station, Sunday April 10, 2016. A SpaceX Dragon cargo ship arrived at the International Space Station on Sunday, two days after launching from Cape Canaveral, Florida. Station astronauts used a big robot arm to capture the Dragon, orbiting 260 miles above Earth. (NASA TV via AP)

This is SpaceX's first delivery for NASA in a year. A launch accident last June put shipments on hold.

SpaceX flight controllers at company headquarters in Hawthorne, California, applauded when the hefty station arm plucked Dragon from orbit. A few hours later, the capsule was bolted securely into place.

"It looks like we caught a Dragon," announced British astronaut Timothy Peake, who made the grab. "There are smiles all around here," NASA's Mission Control replied. "Nice job capturing that Dragon."

SpaceX is still reveling in the success of Friday's booster landing at sea.

SpaceX delivers world's first inflatable room for astronauts
In this frame taken from video from NASA TV, the SpaceX Dragon cargo ship approaches the International Space Station, Sunday April 10, 2016. A SpaceX Dragon cargo ship arrived at the International Space Station on Sunday, two days after launching from Cape Canaveral, Florida. Station astronauts used a big robot arm to capture the Dragon, orbiting 260 miles above Earth. (NASA TV via AP)

For the first time, a leftover booster came to a solid vertical touchdown on a floating platform. SpaceX chief executive Elon Musk wants to reuse boosters to save money, a process that he says will open access to space for more people in more places, like Mars. His ambition is to establish a city on Mars.

NASA also has Mars in its sights and looks to send astronauts there in the 2030s. In order to focus on that objective, the space agency has hired U.S. companies like SpaceX to deliver cargo and, as early as next year, astronauts to the space station. U.S. astronauts currently have to hitch rides on Russian rockets.

In a sign of these new commercial space times, a Dragon capsule is sharing the station for the first time with Orbital ATK's supply ship named Cygnus, already parked there for two weeks. This is also the first time in five years that the compound has six docking ports occupied: Dragon, Cygnus, two Russian Progress freighters and two Russian Soyuz crew capsules.

The Dragon will remain at the station for a month before returning to Earth with science samples, many of them from one-year spaceman Scott Kelly. He ended his historic mission last month. Cygnus will stick around a little longer.


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Apr 10, 2016
I wonder if it would be possible to hit a Martian dune with a missile penetrator which would inflate one of these things underneath?

Some of these dune fields may be very deep.
http://mars.jpl.n...23M_.JPG

-This would solve the problems of soft landing as well as radiation shielding.

We can use nuclear explosives to create habitable voids underground re operation plowshare, gnome shot. And nuclear-powered robotic earth borers could link them with vast networKS of tunnels.

But inflatable habitats underneath dunes may be easier, at least initially, for a number of reasons.

Apr 10, 2016
Why not the moon?

There are craters and caves in the moon that have been found and more to come.

What is wrong with NASA?

Apr 10, 2016
... missile penetrator which would inflate one of these things underneath?
@Otto
not a bad idea, but that would have to be some tough material to survive the explosion and impact both, don't ya think?
We can use nuclear explosives to create habitable voids underground
i like the nuke idea though... we know that it works on Earth

can you imagine that commercial?

need room fast? want to build a new home on Mars, but don't have the time or O2?
then you want Crazy Otto's Nuke-em habitat builders!
fast, easy excavation and uses older warheads that may be near their expiration date (See license and flyers for more details and information. some assembly required. not safe for children. may cause radiation. This object contains material that is known in the state of CA to cause cancer. please sell or nuke by 20xx)
- LMFAO

Apr 10, 2016
"We can use nuclear explosives to create habitable voids underground re operation plowshare, gnome shot. And nuclear-powered robotic earth borers could link them with vast networKS of tunnels."
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Get that idea from a comic book? Batman?

Brute force usually appeals to kids or those who have not matured.

Not thought out, was it?

Apr 10, 2016
Get that idea from a comic book?
@liar-kam
how about from past experience, ya moron
& you claim to be an engineer who is versed in nukes? LMFAO
The first of 828 underground nuclear tests conducted at the NNSS, code-named "Uncle," was detonated on November 29, 1951, in Area 10. The last underground nuclear test to be conducted at the NNSS, code-named "Divider," was on September 23, 1992, in Area 3 (DOE 2000)
http://nnsa.energ...%20H.pdf

The effects of an underground nuclear test may vary according to factors including the depth and yield of the explosion, as well as the nature of the surrounding rock. If the test is conducted at sufficient depth, the test is said to be contained, with no venting of gases or other contaminants to the environment
McEwan, A. C. (1988). "Environmental effects of underground nuclear explosions"

Apr 10, 2016
"We can use nuclear explosives to create habitable voids underground re operation plowshare, gnome shot. And nuclear-powered robotic earth borers could link them with vast networKS of tunnels."
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Get that idea from a comic book? Batman?


Non Cher, he got it from the U.S. government. Did he touch on something that you don't have "experience" in from the olden days?

He wrote right up there where the idea comes from,,,,
re operation plowshare gnome shot".


I think I will take a line from the resident posturing hypocrite here. Look up "operation plowshare" or the "gnome shot".

Not thought out, was it?


I was about to ask you that, but you answered it already. In spades.

Apr 10, 2016
not a bad idea, but that would have to be some tough material to survive the explosion and impact both, don't ya think?
You bet. I was amazed that they could design electronics that could survive on penetrators and artillery shells.

I think the inflation phase under megatons of sand would be more daunting.

Borers are inevitable. There were designs for nuke weapons which could travel for miles underground.
https://en.wikipe...bterrene

-Poor lyin' george kamburoff - if he was a real engineer instead of a pretend one he would have an understanding of potential.

More proof that he's not.

Apr 10, 2016
@liar-kam cont'd
Here is more information with evidence as well
The Containment of Underground Nuclear
Explosions
http://www.prince...8909.PDF

there is also Hawkins, Wohletz (1996). "Visual Inspection for CTBT Verification" from Los Alamos National Laboratory to consider.

sorry that it has only empirical evidence and validated conclusions for you to read in those links above

... i guess you missed all this info in the military commando courses and engineering 101?

or your google broke and you couldn't find your stash of ultra-secret scorpion commando documents?
what?

your post was "Not thought out, was it?"

Apr 10, 2016
Yeah here's an underground rocket
https://en.wikipe...d_rocket

Apr 10, 2016
I think the inflation phase under megatons of sand would be more daunting
@Otto
agreed...
Borers are inevitable. There were designs for nuke weapons which could travel for miles underground.
https://en.wikipe...bterrene
ok, now that is just flat out f*cking awesome cool!
that pic looks like it came out of a comic! ... Flash Gordon or Buck Rogers
LOL


Apr 10, 2016
Russians invented everything. Ask kochevnik
https://news.goog...mp;hl=en

Apr 10, 2016
Russians invented everything. Ask kochevnik
https://news.goog...mp;hl=en
LMFAO

remind you of anyone from Star Trek?
https://en.wikipe...l_Chekov

i wonder if that is a cultural thing or do they teach it in school?


Apr 10, 2016
"...Crazy Otto's Nuke-em habitat builders!..." - Stumpy

I am just fricken dying of laughter over this. And the self-righteous gkam response is SO predictable.

Apr 10, 2016
@Estevan57
Crazy Otto is a good example of the incredibly stupids of the world who think that Nuclear devices are the answer to everything.
Here is a far better and cleaner way for establishing human habitats on Mars:

http://www.buildt...-to-come

"On the BTE site I talk about using lasers to dig underground cavities on Mars for establishing a permanent base there. One advantage of bases deep underground is that they provide for complete shielding from galactic cosmic rays and radiation from the sun. A second advantage is that the inside surfaces of the cavities that are cut out within solid rock can serve as the walls, ceilings, and floors for rooms in the base. This minimizes the size and mass of structures that must be sent to Mars for constructing bases.
Using lasers to cut through rock is a technology that is almost completely unknown to most people, including people with technical educations or training..."

Apr 10, 2016
"We can use nuclear explosives to create habitable voids underground re operation plowshare, gnome shot. And nuclear-powered robotic earth borers could link them with vast networKS of tunnels."
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Get that idea from a comic book? Batman?

Brute force usually appeals to kids or those who have not matured.

Not thought out, was it?
- gkam
You are already aware that Otto is nuttier than a thousand fruitcakes; but your comments lack anything of value as a counter-attack toward the idiocy of the "unholy trinity" wrt Otto/Stump/UncleIra.
You always seem to leave yourself wide open for brutal and merciless diatribes from Otto and Otto's legion of sock puppets, not to mention all of Otto's Toadies who have given their personal, private and public information to Otto through Otto's favorite persona, Cap'n StumpyRump. Otto now OWNS all the fools who were tricked into revealing their life history by StumpyRump and Stump has admitted to that.

Apr 10, 2016
@obama_socks As usual, what the hell are you talking about? I haven't had a "merciless diatribe" from Otto in ages. And to me, they don't really matter.

As for Otto's toadies, you don't have to a "toady" to agree with him. I agree with him sometimes, especially his opinions of gkam and yourself.

I also get along with the people you call toadies. If people call me on my shit, I usually deserve it. If they call you on yours you have a hysterical reaction that tends to express itself through multiple whiny posts about what someone said or did in the past.

And that is why I believe you are a female, not a male.

"...want to build a new home on Mars, but don't have the time or O2?
then you want Crazy Otto's Nuke-em habitat builders!
fast, easy excavation and uses older warheads that may be near their expiration date (See license and flyers for more details and information. some assembly required. not safe for children..." - Captain Stumpy
THAT is funny, like Otto or not.

Apr 10, 2016
@obama_socks As usual, what the hell are you talking about? I haven't had a "merciless diatribe" from Otto in ages. And to me, they don't really matter..


I suggest that you read my post again...since it was addressed to gkam, not you.

As for Otto's toadies, you don't have to a "toady" to agree with him. I agree with him sometimes, especially his opinions of gkam and yourself. .


Well thank you for your honesty regarding me. I will remember it.

I also get along with the people you call toadies. If people call me on my shit, I usually deserve it. If they call you on yours you have a hysterical reaction that tends to express itself through multiple whiny posts about what someone said or did in the past.


Show me where I mentioned the names of Otto's toadies...with the link. You seem to be having a "hysterical reaction" to my posts yourself.

And that is why I believe you are a female, not a male.
- E57

Nope. I was born male.

Apr 10, 2016
@gkam
Here is a far better and cleaner way for establishing human habitats on Mars:

http://www.buildt...-to-come

"On the BTE site I talk about using lasers to dig underground cavities on Mars for establishing a permanent base there. One advantage of bases deep underground is that they provide for complete shielding from galactic cosmic rays and radiation from the sun. A second advantage is that the inside surfaces of the cavities that are cut out within solid rock can serve as the walls, ceilings, and floors for rooms in the base. This minimizes the size and mass of structures that must be sent to Mars for constructing bases.
Using lasers to cut through rock is a technology that is almost completely unknown to most people, including people with technical educations or training..."

Lasers are used for various jobs. Quick, clean and powerful.


Apr 10, 2016
"...lasers to dig underground cavities..." Lasers do not dig cavities, they cut in straight lines. So, you cut a 2m x 2m square shape in a rock face to a depth of 2m, how do you extract that cube?
(Hmm, you could cut a cone..., Ok scratch that objection, but energy requirements...)
Nukes to build a cavity would be my choice. A few seismic bangs to find a low density region, a few nukes, some Bigelow type structures...

Apr 11, 2016
But the whole idea of going underground is to escape radiation. Isn't an underground cavity created by a nuke going to be rather "hot"?? And do we yet have lasers suitable for hauling to the moon or Mars that could carve out space for a habitat? The power requirements would be stupendous.

With the Dragon's parachutes enabled on this one, I can envision this preflight message:
"in case of a launch accident, your Bigelow Expandable Activity Module may be used as a flotation device".

Apr 11, 2016
@TehDog: Make a series of deep vertical cuts down the rock face at a 45 degree left angle, then at a 45 degree right angle so the planes intersect in the rock. Cut at top and bottom to free the pieces. The edge pieces will be prism-like, but the interior pieces will be handy cuboid bricks. You get a hole and construction material at the same time!

Apr 11, 2016
But the whole idea of going underground is to escape radiation. Isn't an underground cavity created by a nuke going to be rather "hot"??
If you are to enjoy posting here you may need to do a little work.

The gnome shot was mentioned a few times above. Google it. It was habitable 6 months after creation.

Apr 11, 2016
"...lasers to dig underground cavities..." Lasers do not dig cavities, they cut in straight lines
You are wasting your reasoning skills. Pussytard the Cal Tech engr
"I earn over a quarter million dollars per year on the job as an Engineer... I myself have engineering degree and have several patents." "Caltech...my old alma mater"
-thinks that dry ice can stop meltdowns;
The dry ice will not need to be right in with the rods, but just above to cool them. And there will be no contamination of the dry ice as it melts and is recycled to be refrozen and come back as dry ice again...
... and geysers can melt ice sheets;
A geyser similar to Old Faithful"[could melt a major part of the Antarctic ice sheet on the order of 100 cubic miles per year]...
-Is this person a hoax? It's hard to imagine anyone being this stupid except on purpose.

Apr 11, 2016
" It's hard to imagine anyone being this stupid except on purpose."
-------------------------------

You do not count anyway, being just an anonymous sniper, getting attention here the only way you know.

Your attacks are silly high-school stuff, the kind of silly bullying we see in school by big cowards. Maybe that is why you only exist here, and not in the real world.

I guess you never outgrew it.

Apr 11, 2016
" Look up "operation plowshare" or the "gnome shot". "
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Those are ancient history, and were not done any more. Look up Operation Gas Buggy if you want to see why.

Once again, Wiki has not saved you. You are completely ignorant of the development of nukes. I want you to live in those cavities from those buried blasts, Toots. Go ahead.

Apr 11, 2016
This was just a crafty way for NASA to get a padded room up there.

Apr 11, 2016
NASA to get a padded room up there
@AntiG
LOL - it's the new NASA ISS bouncy castle
astronauts need playtime too

i wonder what they would charge for tickets from civilians?
they're missing out on a whole lot of potential income from this one, IMHO
LOL

.

.

.

Look up Operation Gas Buggy
@liar-k
1- that was a part of OP Plowshare
2- how does the fact that "stove burners in California might soon emit trace amounts of blast radionuclides into family homes did not sit well with the general public" and that " It was estimated that even after 25 years of production of all the natural gas deemed recoverable, only 15 to 40 percent of the investment would be recouped" apply to the underground detonations of OP Gas buggy being incapable of supporting life on Mars?

please fill us all in on your astounding nuke knowledge!
explain how that works, so that we can all stand in awe of your intellect
[sarcasm and hyperbole, just in case you didn't get that]


Apr 11, 2016
Thanks for validating my assertions. That is why we do not use nukes. Yeah, I know those of you with no knowledge of them think they are neat, but in real life, their use is not wise.

Wiki bites both ways.

Apr 11, 2016
Thanks for validating my assertions
@liarPOStroll
you made no assertions that were validated
That is why we do not use nukes
no, sorry
people who are like you with unfounded fear scaring little kids and the ignorant with false accusations are why we don't use nukes
this is why we have science over emotional outbursts from you folk
http://physics.ke...re15.pdf

https://www.youtu...yv9arXqU

https://www.youtu...xY-wOrI8

https://www.youtu...rcdMiIGs

https://www.youtu...Zm8XO7Zc

but in real life, their use is not wise
so says the person who can't actually talk engineering with an engineer?
like with Schneib here: http://phys.org/n...age.html

yes... your ignorance is astounding... but your stupidity is why people hate and downrate you

Apr 11, 2016
Thanks for validating my assertions. That is why we do not use nukes. Yeah, I know those of you with no knowledge of them think they are neat, but in real life, their use is not wise
George kamburoff is the kind of guy who reveals he knows nothing about nuke tests, and when exposed, he does a little research and then claims he knows more about the subject than anyone else.

That's why everybody thinks you're a scumbag.
Wiki bites both ways
Still think the NRC is wiki?

Remember, you're the guy who thinks that Pu is raining down on idaho, that high energy alpha can't penetrate skin, that fallout is the main cause of lung cancer, and that standing in a nuke control room makes you an expert on nuclear plant engineering.

You're the guy who can't even figure out the quote button.

Apr 11, 2016
Sorry, Trumpy, but you lose.

Didn't you see the voltage and current traces I sent you to see? Those are real graphs of real currents in a real situation, not something somebody "learned" in school. You could not learn that in school back then, you could only get it from folk like me, professionals in the PQ field, who did the work themselves. If you really do have a daughter with an EE and a PE, have her teach you who is correct.

Real people do not downrate me. You saw my performance reviews from the Air Force Flight Test Center with the "ideal airman" quotations from my superiors.

Only snipers too SCARED to admit their identity downrate the real folk.


Apr 11, 2016
Didn't you see the voltage and current traces I sent you to see?
@liar-kam
nope. you've sent me nothing since your last threat to take me to court because you are too stupid to read. sorry
but even if you sent a graph, i've produced links that invalidate your claims to any knowledge, be it about nukes or power engineering. see my last post
Real people do not downrate me
yeah... whatever helps you sleep at night, girlie
this is just more posturing of yours without evidence

Not only were you proven wrong, and proven to lie, and proven to be ignorant on Nuke safety... but you're proven to be illiterate as well
You saw my performance reviews
argument from authority does not equal argument from evidence
another epic fail and proof of illiteracy, old hag

you have my home address, map to get there, and you are still too scared to even let your lawyers send letters to me?
but you want to say i am scared?
ROTFLMFAO

whatever

LOL

Apr 11, 2016
"you have my home address,"
-----------------------------

No I don't Grumpy. You are still too SCARED to send it for the lawyers.

"argument from authority does not equal argument from evidence"

That IS the evidence stupid. Those performance reviews are the actual evidence of my service, and the quality of my work. You cannot get any more professionally personal than that.

Let's see yours, Mister Big Mouth. I think you are too SCARED, not to mention embarrassed.

Give me the name of your daughter so I can tell her about her old man and his "ethics".

Apr 11, 2016
No I don't
@liar-kam-old-hag
so... wait a minute... you "claim" to have a degree, and you "claim" to be versed in science, and you "claim" to have lawyers... but you still can't figure out how to translate a map coordinate with an address on it to paper?
are your lawyers idiots too?
or is it just you?
i can't be any more specific than LAT/LONG coordinates with an address!
ROTFLMFAO
That IS the evidence
no, it is evidence that you want to argue from self-percieved authority
it does not, in any way, shape or form actually provide evidence for the above Nuke argument at all... unless you're delusional and illiterate
Those performance reviews are the actual evidence of my service
it does not, in any way, shape or form actually provide evidence for the above Nuke argument at all... unless you're delusional and illiterate
You cannot get any more professionally personal than that
still no evidence to support your nuke stories!
sorry!
LOL

Apr 11, 2016
Here are the voltage and current traces for the building in Silicon Valley.

http://www.kambur...vey.html

Please note how the loads drawing mostly third harmonics only pass through the fifths.The rest burn up in the delta windings, creating heat and taking up "space" in the wire.

See how the pulsed currents flatten the Voltage Wave? That induces other harmonics into the other loads fed by that source.

Yeah, it is a crude web page, because all of that was done decades ago when the internet was new, and so were the page programmers. I keep the page to keep my domain for my email.


Apr 11, 2016
Really? "in any way shape or trite?

How about something new like "ROTFLMAO"?

Creativity ain't your bag, apparently.

And yes, Gas Buggy was THE final reason we do not use nukes for civil engineering. Eisenhower was told we could use them to dredge out harbors and other such nonsense.

Thanks for bringing it up.

Apr 11, 2016
Hey scumbag
Real people do not downrate me. You saw my performance reviews from the Air Force Flight Test Center with the "ideal airman" quotations from my superiors
-So THIS is why it must be true that Pu is raining down on idaho, that high energy alpha can't penetrate skin, that fallout is the main cause of lung cancer, and that standing in a nuke control room makes you an expert on nuclear plant engineering?

They're not true. They're bullshit. Doesn't matter what your superiors said about george kamburoff.

But given your penchant for making up crap like the above, we have to assume that you lied to them like you lie here.

We have to assume that you are lying about your service.
Here are the voltage and current traces for the building in Silicon Valley
What does that have to do with anything? How does that make you knowledgeable about nuclear testing?

Your posts above about nuclear testing reveals that you don't know anything about it.

Apr 11, 2016
Please note how the loads drawing mostly third harmonics only pass through the fifths.The rest burn up in the delta windings, creating heat and taking up "space" in the wire.
Wow george kamburoff tries to prove he knows something about nuclear testing by posting about wires and windings and harmonics.

You really are off the deep end aren't you? What's your poor wife going to do when you're drooling and crapping your pants, now that you've thrown away all her money on alternative energy gadgets?

"A woman with a staggering record of fraud, deceit, lies, and broken promises concluded a letter to the parole board with, "I've let a lot of people down… One is only as good as her reputation and name. My word is as good as gold."

Apr 11, 2016
Hilarious.

If you want to see writings regarding nukes, go to Wiki and look up the W-87 warhead.

All my knowledge comes from public sources, plus a friend who had experiments around the Devices.

Apr 11, 2016
Really? "in any way shape or trite?
@liar-kam the old hag
where did you quote that from? your delusional belief that you saw it somewhere?
searched the web-page and there is only one place that is posted (besides in this comment) and that is in your own comment
so much for being "real" or "literate" eh?
How about something new like "ROTFLMAO"?
still haven't figured out how to use the biggest, most extensive free search engine on the internet?
wow... so much for "education" as well!
Gas Buggy was THE final reason we do not use nukes for civil engineering
no, it wasn't, unless you can come up with some gov't document that specifically states that
where is that link?

perhaps you can "bigfoot" it?
Lycos?
AOL?
LMFAO
All my knowledge comes from public sources
IOW - wiki

the rest of your BS is dismissed as being crap and unsubstantiated conjecture without evidence


Apr 11, 2016
Hilarious
Yeah drooling old men who smell like shit are pretty funny.
writings regarding nukes, go to Wiki and look up the W-87 warhead
And what does THAT have to do with
loads drawing mostly third harmonics only pass through the fifths.The rest burn up in the delta windings, creating heat and taking up "space" in the wire
-?? You think talking in circles makes you appear smarter? Or sicker?

"Psychopaths are notorious for not answering the questions asked them. They will answer something else, or in such a way that the direct question is never addressed. They also phrase things so that some parts of their narratives are difficult to understand. This is not careless speech, of which everyone is guilty at times, but an ongoing indication of the underlying condition in which the organization of mental activity suggests something is wrong. It's not what they say, but how they say it that gives insight into their true nature."

-The REAL george kamburoff.

Apr 11, 2016
I was just showing how all your stuff is trite.

And you were too afraid to look at the "evidence" on my website, you will claim, but you did look. Now you have to send your alleged 6'-4" daughter with the EE and the PE to shoot holes in it, or tell you how you got snookered again.

And you saw my other evidence of achievement was my actual performance reports from the Air Force Flight Test Center. Where are yours, Big Mouth?

You were so sure you had me, had found a phony like you and otto and Ira, so you pounced. It turned out you were wrong, and got very nasty being wrong.

I am real after all,and really did those studies and reports for NASA and the other stuff.

So stop the personal attacks, which only reveal your own psychological state and character.

Apr 11, 2016
And you saw my other evidence of achievement was my actual performance reports from the Air Force Flight Test Center
@liar-kam the old hag
and how does this relate to your lies about nuclear safety? THz safety and biological issues?
Where are yours
is it relevant to the topic?
NO?
there is your answer
You were so sure you had me, had found a phony like you and otto and Ira, so you pounced
you idiot!
I tried to help you with Otto by suggesting you simply post "evidence" for your claims
simple and functional solution

you are the one who decided to attack me for demonstrating you were wrong about THz

so... stop the personal attacks, which only reveal your own psychological state and character.

Apr 11, 2016
"Yeah drooling old men who smell like shit are pretty funny."
---------------------------------

My gosh, otto, where do you have your nose?

Apr 12, 2016
I was just showing how all your stuff is trite
You were just showing off your mental state.

"Psychopaths are notorious for not answering the questions asked them. They will answer something else, or in such a way that the direct question is never addressed. They also phrase things so that some parts of their narratives are difficult to understand. This is not careless speech... but an ongoing indication of the underlying condition in which the organization of mental activity suggests something is wrong. It's not what they say, but how they say it that gives insight into their true nature."

-The REAL george kamburoff.
writings regarding nukes, go to Wiki and look up the W-87
And what does THAT have to do with
loads drawing mostly third harmonics only pass through the fifths.The rest burn up in the delta windings, creating heat and taking up "space" in the wire
-You think talking in circles makes you appear smarter? Or sicker?

Apr 12, 2016
Apparently you do not get it. That is typical of someone who lived his life in books. They think all engineers get paid the same, and do the same work, all of them.

As I said, if you want information on nukes go to Wiki, but if you wanted the information, the actual real-world graphs and the knowledge of the phenomenon, you had to go to someone like me, who actually did the work.

What kind of work do or did you do? You seem to be here day and night, instead of having a real life.

Apr 12, 2016
if you want information on nukes go to Wiki, but if you wanted the information, the actual real-world graphs and the knowledge of the phenomenon, you had to go to someone like me, who actually did the work
@liar-kam
1- blatant lie - reported for spamming pseudoscience

2- if you knew about nukes, you would know at least the fundamentals, which you obviously don't

3- what about all the non-wiki links i've given you regarding world statistics that you ignore?

4- most importantly: making sh*t up because you had a college willing to give you an honorary degree for your life experience doesn't make you correct when the evidence demonstrates your ignorance and false claims

just because you want to argue from your supposed authority on a subject doesn't mean you are correct

you have yet - i repeat *yet*- to be able to provide any source of information refuting the safety stats i posted against your comments re: nukes

why?

Apr 12, 2016
Grumpy, it seems being challenged by reality brings out your real character.

And "safety" numbers by nuke promoters do not tell the story of how long it takes for people to get lives shortened by cancer. They do not tell us how much it will cost to find ways to store this deadly stuff essentially forever in Human terms.

Who will pay for that? Who will be burdened by that hubris?

Are you going to "guarantee" the "safety" of this stuff? How? Got the money up front? Got a way to store it? Got the deadly force necessary to protect it, essentially forever?

Apr 12, 2016
Grumpy
@liar-kam
Let's stop with the personal attacks. You thought I was another phony, but when I turned out to be a real person with real education and real experience in things in which you know nothing about, it just enraged you
it seems being challenged by reality brings out your real character
1- are you going to provide any evidence?
2- the evidence i've linked directly contradict your claims
do you have any... and i mean *any* evidence to link or reference that can be validated that can substantiate your claims?
NO?
"safety" numbers by nuke promoters do not tell the story of how long it takes for people to get lives shortened by cancer
1- safety statistics are based upon this fact, moron
2- you failed to read the report or the evidence, as well as demonstrate any familiarity with statistics, health or the scientific method
therefore, this is a false claim, and blatantly so

2Bcont'd

Apr 12, 2016
@Liar-kam cont'd
Who will pay
1- medical insurance is required by law in the US... you helped promote that farce by your voting practice, moron
2- fearmongering and appeal to fear based emotional outbursts that are not clinical evaluations of the statistics are tactics the Koch bro's use to undermine AGW... so now you think it is OK to use them for science in general?
need i link the evidence again?
you going to "guarantee" the "safety"
do you require the passengers of a jet to "guarantee" the "safety" of a flight?
no
you're questions are already answered
so stop fearmongering

this is why you are being reported
again

if you can't actually add content to the science discussion and link references or information that can be validated, then you're crying "stop the waterfalls from leaking" at the world

that is not how science works, nor how it progresses
if ya want to play hippie, get a sign and sit on the while house lawn
don't argue from ignorance

reported

Apr 12, 2016
And "safety" numbers by nuke promoters do not tell the story
Hypocrite double standards much Cher? And "danger" fears by new-agey slogan promoters don't tell much of a story either.

Who will pay for that? Who will be burdened by that hubris?
Posing questions is not debating the science or technical issues. "Who will pay" and "be burdened" and "hubris" is not arguing from science, it is arguing from emotion.

Are you,, ? How? Got the,,,, ? Got a way,,,? Got the ,,,, r?
Those are only good questions if you first present a foundation that puts them into context. And you can't set up a context with bumper sticker slogans Skippy.

That is the trait that puts the lie to all your claims of being the six different kinds of engineer or having much "experience". All you ever have is slogans, emotionally laced one liners, and stuffs plagiarized from new-age blogs. With the abundant "I have experience" thrown in.

Apr 12, 2016
Look at you kids in your silly tantrums, screaming across the playground.

No wonder you have to hide who you really are.

And you "forgot" to answer my questions regarding the "safety" of the nuclear waste, an item nukers always dodge. Well, you cant dodge it any more.

Fess up. Are YOU going to pay for armed guards for hundreds of thousands of years?

Tell us!

Apr 12, 2016
Look at you kids in your silly tantrums, screaming across the playground
@liar-kam
Let's stop with the personal attacks. You thought I was another phony, but when I turned out to be a real person with real education and real experience in things in which you know nothing about, it just enraged you

if you can't add evidence or actually post a verifiable reference then the only one screaming anything is you... because i can validate my claims
in fact, it is already above, linked 23 hours ago "answering your questions"

so, with all your vast experience... why haven't you been able to provide some references that can be validated to substantiate your claim?

this is critical thinking in science101 - if you can't validate your claim, then it can be dismissed

also note: you still haven't actually produces evidence for your claims
you just ranted and got all EMO

so.. science = win
liar-kam = pseudoscience ranting emo hag

oh... reported for trolling/baiting/emo

Apr 12, 2016
one more point to add to liar-kam
And you "forgot" to answer my questions regarding the "safety" of the nuclear waste, an item nukers always dodge
the safety statistics linked demonstrate the overall safety over time of Nuke vs Solar/Wind/etc

that means, by definition, it takes into consideration long term effects... although the long term effects of landfill pollution of chemicals and toxic substances from new age solar/wind/etc isn't truly represented in this case, as noted in the study
in fact, it even dismisses the AGW problem, so it doesn't skew the facts (this is not a factor for nukes)

you want to promote something as being wrong... i get it
you're outraged over pollution
you want to be a hippie

so quit sloganeering and being emo and provide *EVIDENCE*

or go burn your bra and quit being emo over science here
it would be more effective than undermining the AGW science with your blatant stupidity

Apr 12, 2016
"so quit sloganeering and being emo and provide *EVIDENCE*"
--------------------------------------------
Okay, http://www.cherno...ernobyl/

and

http://www.cnn.co...hildren/

Those are not "projections" they are REAL PEOPLE.

Go apologize to them.
https://www.youtu...Z2sSZ30M

Apr 12, 2016
Those are not "projections" they are REAL PEOPLE
@liar-kam
at least you used a link

lets use your own tactic to teach you a lesson about reality

.

lets BAN ALL HOSPITALS
http://personalinjuryattorneylawyerinlosangeles.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/medical_malpractice_accidents.gif

ask that person how safe surgery is!

BAN ALL AIRPLANES
http://www.vosizn...am-1.jpg

BAN ALL CARS
https://www.youtu...aBnlk-kA

BAN EATING
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Q2xzz0ZSH6U/TNnmrSUVz9I/AAAAAAAADEM/uobfyLMraCs/s1600/overeating.jpg

obviously, when you appeal to fear, you will find only fear
however, when you appeal to the SCIENCE, you get this
http://physics.ke...re15.pdf

which is safer, liar-kam?
where is the scientific study refuting my study?

reported for fearmongering pseudoscience posts

Apr 12, 2016
Did you apologize to the parents of those kids? Did you tell them how much we loved nukes, and how many more we need, no matter what they think?

Hmmm?

Did you do that?

And why do you dodge the issue of nuclear waste?

How much do you want?

Apr 12, 2016
How many heavily-armed Special Force guards will be needed essentially forever to guard the nuclear waste? We will need them for over a hundred thousand years. Got the money?

Are you going to guarantee it will not kill people by the millions if it gets into the biosphere? How? Give us details.

Apr 12, 2016
Did you apologize to the parents of those kids?
@liar-kam the old hag
did you apologize to:
- the Indonesians for their plane crash?
-the geriatric with the surgical scissors in the chest?
-any other victim of malpractice?
-all the people killed by DUI drivers or doddering old geriatrics like you?
-all the fat people because food obviously causes overeating?
all the folk who drowned because water will kill you?

no?
Are you going to guarantee it will not kill people anymore in the future?
Did you do that?

And why do you dodge the issue of nuclear safety overall, including the numbers killed by accidents which are lower than your solar/wind numbers?
How much do you want?

How many guards will be needed essentially forever to guard the gravesites to insure bodies aren't robbed? We will need them for at least forever.

Got the money?

Give us details.

(PS - i gave you details you are ignoring... why is that?)

Apr 12, 2016
Your comparisons are childish. There are no decent equivalents to air travel, we have to do it if we want a modern economy. We have much better, cheaper, more benign, and less dangerous technologies to make electrical power. There is no excuse for using it but money for those involved.

Tell them to get into solar and wind and geothermal technologies, instead of staying stuck in the deadly and dead-end errors of the past.

Apr 12, 2016
Look at you kids in your silly tantrums, screaming across the playground
Look at the baby who stamps his feet and cries whenever anybody takes exception to his lies.

"I'm george kamburoff!! Don't question me!! You SAW my birdman award!! I once tested one piece of equipment as a job shopper, and once stood in an actual control room, and so I can say anything I want!! Fukushima reactors DID blow up because they had PLUTONIUM IN THEM!! THEY DID THEY DID!! Waaaaaaaa!!"

-You back in diapers yet you fucking baby?

It's only a matter of time.

Apr 12, 2016
Your comparisons are childish
@liar-kam
1- still no evidence equivalent to even a study?
reported for fearmongering ans pseudoscience

2- they're exactly the same thing you are doing- ignoring the obvious wealth of information

you only posted the info you did for the sake of fearmongering and sympathetic response b/c you have absolutely no scientific background or information to stand upon

this is why you can't find references or studies to support your conclusions

you can't see the reality for your fears and inadequacies, so you appeal to emotions and your "beliefs" in various things, just like a religious zealot

this is just one more thing i can now *demonstrate* you're inadequacies in, along with:
critical thinking
THz
Engineering for power companies
Radio waves
scientific knowledge
the scientific method
and unbiased representation of factual evidence

Thanks to Ira and Schneib for their work outing you too

May 23, 2016
gkam

1.7 / 5 (6) Apr 12, 2016
Look at you kids in your silly tantrums, screaming across the playground.

No wonder you have to hide who you really are.


On that note, has anyone figured out how to get the "use real name" functionality to work? On the account settings page you can pick to use either your nickname or real name and every time you pick "real" it seems to save it but it's always reset back to nickname afterwards. It seems PO likes anonymous cowards, but I, for one, have been trying to set it to a real ID since I joined without luck.

Tantrums? Yeah, uh, "reported for EMO", really is throwing the toys from the pram.

Do you think anyone is winning your perpetual feud? It makes you all look like fucking idiots. gkam, just ignore them. If they persist, then it's simply bullying. Your tit-for-tat, though, legitimizes their retorts to an extent. Odd people would throw away hundreds of good posts for a stupid hissy fit.

May 23, 2016

Captain Stumpy

3 /5 (8) Apr 12, 2016

Grumpy

@liar-kam
Let's stop with the personal attacks.


That's incredible! Grumpy must be gen X. Only gen X can be so monumentally not-self-conscious of their own behavior. Or throw "liar" around so casually. Of course, for them it's always true, but for peeps of George's generation, it isn't always. Difficult concept for gen X, I know.

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